https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJEyyrmR4U&feature=player_embedded

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Representative of the Jewish minority at the Iranian Parliament Siamak Marreh Sedq lauded religious freedom in Iran, and said Islamic Republic officials have always supported the rights of the Jewish community and other minorities in the Muslim state.


(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - "From the viewpoint of religious freedoms, Iran is one of the best and freest world countries for the followers of divine religions and the followers of monotheistic faiths see no restriction or limitation in practicing their religions," Marreh Sedq said on Sunday.

Referring to the full freedom of the followers of religious minorities and their equal rights with the Muslims, he Abrahamic said that in Iran, for instance, religious minorities can continue their academic studies to the highest level, they enjoy complete freedom and they have completely equal civil rights similar to the Muslims.

He further rejected some media allegations accusing Iran of following a racist approach after Iran's first vice-president made a series of comments against Zionism. "I have never seen any racist action in Iran for the Iranian people's culture of tolerance and coexistence is so strong that there remains no possibility for racism," Mareh Sedq reiterated.

His remarks came after the Zionist-led media launched an intensive propaganda campaign against the remarks of Iran's First Vice-President Mohammad Reza Rahimi at a recent UN anti-drug conference, where he condemned Zionists, and not Jews, for inciting global drug trade and addiction in a bid to annihilate other nations.

Addressing a ceremony on the occasion of the International Day of Drug Abuse on Tuesday, Rahimi had stated that "the Zionists play a key role in the production and distribution of narcotics across the globe, because destroying human societies and exploiting their virtues are among the objectives of the Zionists".

Following his comments, a growing wave of pro-Zionism statements by western officials and bodies overwhelmed the media in the West, fabricating Rahimi's remarks and intention and then condemning his view.

While Rahimi blamed the Zionists for the international drug trade and growing addiction in the world, the media reports and statements of the western officials attributed his words to Jews and Judaism.

In reaction, the Iranian foreign ministry underlined that Rahimi's comments were only directed at the Zionists, and not Jews as the country feels full respect for Jews and Judaism as a divine religion.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast reminded that Iran has been a main pillar and pioneer of dialogue among religions and civilizations due to the very same belief and respect for Ibrahimic faiths.

He further stressed Tehran's campaign against racism in all its forms, including Zionism, saying, "Campaign against racism has been an irrevocable principle of Iran's foreign policy."

The spokesman reminded that Iran has always differentiated Judaism from Zionism and it has always condemned the racist practice of Zionism, while respecting Jews and Judaism.

"Distortion of the religion of Judaism due to the formation of political Zionism has always been a target of protests and objections by all the world freedom-seekers and even the followers of Judaism, and accusing the Islamic Republic of Iran of racism is, thus, a fully wrong approach and thought."

"As stated in Mr. Rahimi's remarks, there definitely are serious differences between the teachings of divine religions and the extremist racist and anti-human rights thoughts of Zionism," Mehman-Parast said.

Rahimi had stated in his Tuesday remarks that "we (Iran) are opposed to global Zionism, although we feel respect for the followers of Prophet Muses (PBUH)".

To end his remarks, the foreign ministry spokesman asked "those who claim to be campaigning against racism to break their silence and take action against the Zionists' completely inhumane acts against the oppressed people of Palestine and violation of Muslims' rights in other parts of the world".

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http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=326484

One should be careful to get the story of both sides to get a balanced view. Propaganda exists in todays world.

Iranian pastor faces death sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgKUU-LapU


Christian persecution in Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLYOogKJe8

This looks like arrangee story to me

LagosShia:
[size=14pt]Jew lauded Religious freedom in Iran
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Representative of the Jewish minority at the Iranian Parliament Siamak Marreh Sedq lauded religious freedom in Iran, and said Islamic Republic officials have always supported the rights of the Jewish community and other minorities in the Muslim state.


(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - "From the viewpoint of religious freedoms, Iran is one of the best and freest world countries for the followers of divine religions and the followers of monotheistic faiths see no restriction or limitation in practicing their religions, " Marreh Sedq said on Sunday.

Referring to the full freedom of the followers of religious minorities and their equal rights with the Muslims, he Abrahamic said that in Iran, for instance, religious minorities can continue their academic studies to the highest level, they enjoy complete freedom and they have completely equal civil rights similar to the Muslims.

He further rejected some media allegations accusing Iran of following a racist approach after Iran's first vice-president made a series of comments against Zionism. "I have never seen any racist action in Iran for the Iranian people's culture of tolerance and coexistence is so strong that there remains no possibility for racism," Mareh Sedq reiterated.

His remarks came after the Zionist-led media launched an intensive propaganda campaign against the remarks of Iran's First Vice-President Mohammad Reza Rahimi at a recent UN anti-drug conference, where he condemned Zionists, and not Jews, for inciting global drug trade and addiction in a bid to annihilate other nations.

Addressing a ceremony on the occasion of the International Day of Drug Abuse on Tuesday, Rahimi had stated that "the Zionists play a key role in the production and distribution of narcotics across the globe, because destroying human societies and exploiting their virtues are among the objectives of the Zionists".

Following his comments, a growing wave of pro-Zionism statements by western officials and bodies overwhelmed the media in the West, fabricating Rahimi's remarks and intention and then condemning his view.

While Rahimi blamed the Zionists for the international drug trade and growing addiction in the world, the media reports and statements of the western officials attributed his words to Jews and Judaism.

In reaction, the Iranian foreign ministry underlined that Rahimi's comments were only directed at the Zionists, and not Jews as the country feels full respect for Jews and Judaism as a divine religion.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast reminded that Iran has been a main pillar and pioneer of dialogue among religions and civilizations due to the very same belief and respect for Ibrahimic faiths.

He further stressed Tehran's campaign against racism in all its forms, including Zionism, saying, " Campaign against racism has been an irrevocable principle of Iran's foreign policy."

The spokesman reminded that Iran has always differentiated Judaism from Zionism and it has always condemned the racist practice of Zionism, while respecting Jews and Judaism.

"Distortion of the religion of Judaism due to the formation of political Zionism has always been a target of protests and objections by all the world freedom-seekers and even the followers of Judaism, and accusing the Islamic Republic of Iran of racism is, thus, a fully wrong approach and thought."

"As stated in Mr. Rahimi's remarks, there definitely are serious differences between the teachings of divine religions and the extremist racist and anti-human rights thoughts of Zionism," Mehman-Parast said.

Rahimi had stated in his Tuesday remarks that "we (Iran) are opposed to global Zionism, although we feel respect for the followers of Prophet Muses (PBUH)".

To end his remarks, the foreign ministry spokesman asked "those who claim to be campaigning against racism to break their silence and take action against the Zionists' completely inhumane acts against the oppressed people of Palestine and violation of Muslims' rights in other parts of the world".

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http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=326484

Give us proofs of the bolded.


For clarity let's consider just this-
On religious tolerance of minorities; how are sunnis treated? Bahai nko? Atheists nko? How far can they rise in Iranian society?

What of the requirements to hang the Ayatollahs photos in churches and temples? Why are Jews or sunnis or others not allowed to be school principals? Or hold ranks in the military? Is that freedom? What of the rights to renounce religion or be an apostate?

Phuleaseeeeeee!

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tiarabubu: This looks like arrangee story to me




Give us proofs of the bolded.


For clarity let's consider just this-
On religious tolerance of minorities; how are sunnis treated? Bahai nko? Atheists nko? How far can they rise in Iranian society?

What of the requirements to hang the Ayatollahs photos in churches and temples? Why are Jews or sunnis or others not allowed to be school principals? Or hold ranks in the military? Is that freedom? What of the rights to renounce religion or be an apostate?

Phuleaseeeeeee!

i can unapolegetical tell you that i have no proof to present to you because the statements you highlighted are not made by me.they are either made by a jew or an iranian official.

as for you,you have to present to us proofs for the claims you have made.

Sunnis and jews are not treated badly in Iran.as for the bahais,they have issues that violate iranian laws and has to do with their headquarters they mounted in israel,a rival and enemy of iran.

hanging the pictures of ayatollahs in churches,i do not know of that.but i guess you are referring to the pictures of the supreme leaders Iran has had.in that case,it is no different than hanging Jonathan's picture or any head of state's picture in banks and other public places.but you should back up your claims with evidence that this is mandated in Iran.but remember even if it is,it is a national issue.

as for being unable to be a principal in schools,please present evidence to back that.

as for Sunnis not taking part in the military,that is not true.but for non-muslims,in shariah non-muslims are granted exemption from military service except if they wish to participate.

as for the right to renounce religion and being an apostate,i think you or even myself can do that.no one would force you or insert something into your heart that you dont believe.but that doesn't mean you have to spread your apostacy into society at large.in that case,you're infringing upon the right of others and in Islamic republic that have its laws based on islamic law,that is seen as threatening the foundations of the republic and can amount to treason.it is as good as questioning the regime or system of governance in nigeria that has a federal character.

and also,i think you're just being cynical and evil-minded.your criticism and jealousy does not at all negate the fact that minorities in Iran live and co-exist peacefully.you're raising irrelevant side comments that you can hardly defend if you try to.the fact is christians and minorities worship freely in iran unlike in other countries where they are afraid of being killed or they dont have churches.however,you still should not forget that Iran is predominantly Muslim and with an Islamic republic.

MacDaddy01: One should be careful to get the story of both sides to get a balanced view. Propaganda exists in todays world.

Iranian pastor faces death sentence


Christian persecution in Iran

please see the below link to know the difference between indigenous iranian christians and american sponsored evengelical churches aiming to disturb peace in iran.for christians indigenous to iran to be praising their country and its government clearly shows that life is comfortable for them and there is no maltreatment of them based on their religion.and it is also evident that those who complain have their own plans and secret agendas ill-intended for Iran.and whether you be Muslim and even a Shia Muslim or christian or whatever,no state tolerates jeopardizing the state of affairs and so does Iran not tolerate that.iranian christians indigenous to iran are free to worship.but those american evangelicals aiming to spread their denominational beliefs to "undermine" the islamic republic has a political end.in fact even iranian christians would not be pleased for these pentecostal churches to come in and bribe youths with visas to the west and money to become "christian" as they have done.the iranian christians belong to traditional christian churches that even pre-date Islam in Iran.and those traditional churches are respected,protected and preserved in Iran;unlike the fanatical pentecostal-money-making-scamming pastors and their aim to deceive people.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/235002746-iran-fears-christianity-part-2/

very suprising to see iranian christians giving a different picture of their own lives while fanatical christians far away from Iran influenced by american evangelical churches with counterfeit miracles want to still attack anything Islamic and Iran.as for the one calling himself "MacDaddy01" presenting videos of iranian "christians" in america,dont you think this is the same thing LagosShia is saying that youths are being bribed by these pentecostal american churches and Iran does not tolerate their political manipulations? i think if christians are persecuted then that bishop in the video in the OP should have said it.but he was praising the iranian government and said that the government even give them government money from the iranian budget as iranian citizens.

LagosShia:

please see the below link to know the difference between indigenous iranian christians and american sponsored evengelical churches aiming to disturb peace in iran.for christians indigenous to iran to be praising their country and its government clearly shows that life is comfortable for them and there is no maltreatment of them based on their religion.and it is also evident that those who complain have their own plans and secret agendas ill-intended for Iran.and whether you be Muslim and even a Shia Muslim or christian or whatever,no state tolerates jeopardizing the state of affairs and so does Iran not tolerate that.iranian christians indigenous to iran are free to worship.but those american evangelicals aiming to spread their denominational beliefs to "undermine" the islamic republic has a political end.in fact even iranian christians would not be pleased for these pentecostal churches to come in and bribe youths with visas to the west and money to become "christian" as they have done.the iranian christians belong to traditional christian churches that even pre-date Islam in Iran.and those traditional churches are respected,protected and preserved in Iran;unlike the fanatical pentecostal-money-making-scamming pastors and their aim to deceive people.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/235002746-iran-fears-christianity-part-2/

My second video showed IRANIAN indigenous christians being persecuted. Please, you are entitled to your opinions but not your own facts.

There are so many articles on the persecution of christians in Iran. Such persecution is even on the rise;

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/persecution-of-christians-soars-in-iran/ (xtain persecution on the rise)



Other articles concerning persecution;

http://www.farsinet.com/persecuted/
http://www.persecution.org/2012/05/02/two-iranian-christian-converts-arrested-in-tehran/

Rafidi :
very suprising to see iranian christians giving a different picture of their own lives while fanatical christians far away from Iran influenced by american evangelical churches with counterfeit miracles want to still attack anything Islamic and Iran.as for the one calling himself "MacDaddy01" presenting videos of iranian "christians" in america,dont you think this is the same thing LagosShia is saying that youths are being bribed by these pentecostal american churches and Iran does not tolerate their political manipulations? i think if christians are persecuted then that bishop in the video in the OP should have said it.but he was praising the iranian government and said that the government even give them government money from the iranian budget as iranian citizens.

My second video shows indigenous Iranian christians being persecuted.

If the Bishop in LagosShia's video gets money from the Iranian government, is he going to have the credibility to complain?

MacDaddy01:



My second video shows indigenous Iranian christians being persecuted.

If the Bishop in LagosShia's video gets money from the Iranian government, is he going to have the credibility to complain?

MacDaddy01 aka Logicboy01 aka Cheers01,

isn't that a contradiction in your statement? where is the logic in your statement that the iranian government would give money to people it is accused of persecuting? were you drunk while typing this?

LagosShia:

MacDaddy01 aka Logicboy01 aka Cheers01,

isn't that a contradiction in your statement? where is the logic in your statement that the iranian government would give money to people it is accused of persecuting? were you drunk while typing this?

1)You failed to notice the "if" at the beginning of the sentence.

2)One bishop does not constitute or represent the whole of christianity. There is something called being a "shill"

3) The fact remains that many christians remain persecuted in Iran. Iranaian christians

4) I hardly drink. You wouldnt want me to insult you with alcohol as a muslim. Do unto others as you want others to do unto you.


Feel free to lie that I'm derailing your thread. Then ironically cry when Maclatunji is maltreating you!

LagosShia,

Your love for Iran is known and understandable. I mean they are Shia like you and you have an affinity.

BUT this blanket pass mark you are trying to award them wouldn't cut it. The world is a global village so propaganda is very easily seen through for what it is. The persecution of minorities in Iran is well documented and it will serve no purpose repeating. It's on the net for all to see.

There is no nation without fault and Iran is no exception. In areas of technology, discipline and policy they get top marks. No one (even US, their "friend" ) can take that away cos it's so clear and even i admire them for it. But in other areas like freedoms of worship and choice, they have questions to answer. For example the recent attempt at expanding apostasy laws to cover Iranians abroad! And it's all ok? Come on!

tiarabubu: LagosShia,

Your love for Iran is known and understandable. I mean they are Shia like you and you have an affinity.

BUT this blanket pass mark you are trying to award them wouldn't cut it. The world is a global village so propaganda is very easily seen through for what it is. The persecution of minorities in Iran is well documented and it will serve no purpose repeating. It's on the net for all to see.

There is no nation without fault and Iran is no exception. In areas of technology, discipline and policy they get top marks. No one (even US, their "friend" ) can take that away cos it's so clear and even i admire them for it. But in other areas like freedoms of worship and choice, they have questions to answer. For example the recent attempt at expanding apostasy laws to cover Iranians abroad! And it's all ok? Come on!

Great comment

MacDaddy01:


1)You failed to notice the "if" at the beginning of the sentence.

there is no question of "if" here because the bishop said the government does provide money to the church.in your view that implies the bishop cannot complaint therefore of the "persecution" you want us to believe is taking place against the likes of the bishop.but this is flawed because a government persecuting a people would not give money to them part of the iranian budget.it just doesnt make sense.

2)One bishop does not constitute or represent the whole of christianity. There is something called being a "shill"

the bishop represents his church and congregation.and i could remember well from watching the video,that particular bishop speaks for iranian orthodox christians.

3) The fact remains that many christians remain persecuted in Iran. Iranaian christians

i have only seen those affiliated with american churches complaining.and incredibly enough they do not complain when american tyrannical allies like saudi arabia maltreat or persecute minorities.

tiarabubu: LagosShia,

Your love for Iran is known and understandable. I mean they are Shia like you and you have an affinity.

BUT this blanket pass mark you are trying to award them wouldn't cut it. The world is a global village so propaganda is very easily seen through for what it is. The persecution of minorities in Iran is well documented and it will serve no purpose repeating. It's on the net for all to see.

There is no nation without fault and Iran is no exception. In areas of technology, discipline and policy they get top marks. No one (even US, their "friend" ) can take that away cos it's so clear and even i admire them for it. But in other areas like freedoms of worship and choice, they have questions to answer. For example the recent attempt at expanding apostasy laws to cover Iranians abroad! And it's all ok? Come on!

you should stop mixing up issues.my so called love for Iran is not because of iran but because of Islam (like i earlier explained the issue of apostacy and its political side).

Iran,no one is saying is perfect.but you have your christian brothers and also jews giving a pass mark.i am not the one talking but they are.so why should i not believe them and believe you? if others are persecuted as you claim,then you got to find out the reason why whatever treatment they faced was handed down to them.to scream persecution and then use as propaganda (in this case led by american churches against Iran) is very easy to do.Iranians are simply telling you that the new churches of counterfeit miracles and political incitement like our scamming billionaire pastors do have not place in Iran.if you want to cry persecution feel free.traditional and ancient churches and iranian christians who have lived there for centuries are protected and treated well.

and besides no one is saying that Iran is perfect.but give credit when and to whom it is due.yes you can claim a million other problems in iran.but this thread started with the words of a bishop on the brighter note.and regardless of how many million problems exist,it will not overshadow the tiniest bit of good that has been done.so you need to open your eyes and give praise and credit where and when it is due.

Tell me when ever was freedom of speech a strong point in Iran? Will that man talk the truth and live free? Lol. The desperation to prove a point in the article is clear.

Even Nigeria has better freedom of speech. We blast Jonathan and sleep fine, we blast the system and not bat an eye. Try that with ahmedinajad or the system and you are branded an American spy or worst Zionists sympathisers and the consequences are clear. Why is Iran desperate to get an endorsement of their stance.

What of the interesting claims of Drug trafficking in the report? What are their proof? All this belligerent talk sef. I know they are in a state of suspended or shadow war with isreal, making outlandish claims belittle their case. Ask for proof they will say the Jews hid them! Lol

Abeg, propaganda is trash. Iran should focus. Persians have the capacity to be a world power. The they just need to drop the hating and propaganda.

tiarabubu: Tell me when ever was freedom of speech a strong point in Iran? Will that man talk the truth and live free? Lol. The desperation to prove a point in the article is clear.

Even Nigeria has better freedom of speech. We blast Jonathan and sleep fine, we blast the system and not bat an eye. Try that with ahmedinajad or the system and you are branded an American spy or worst Zionists sympathisers and the consequences are clear. Why is Iran desperate to get an endorsement of their stance.

What of the interesting claims of Drug trafficking in the report? What are their proof? All this belligerent talk sef. I know they are in a state of suspended or shadow war with isreal, making outlandish claims belittle their case. Ask for proof they will say the Jews hid them! Lol

Abeg, propaganda is trash. Iran should focus. Persians have the capacity to be a world power. The they just need to drop the hating and propaganda.

the moment you start to care or want to please everyone,that is when you are bound to fail.Iran is not seeking to please you.they do what is right and in their interest and also with sense of fairness to their people and others.if you like it,good.if not,do your worse.your propaganda and bitterness is so clear.Iran is an Islamic republic and is praised by a christian bishop and a jew both of whom are closer to Jesus (as) in christianity than yourself.you should find somewhere else to take your "bad belle".you keep changing views and tone to deceive people.

as for freedom of speech,insults and rude remarks that we see on nairaland even against Jonathan or whoever in the name of freedom of speech is not freedom of speech.freedom of speech is when you criticize someone with respect and question his actions and not the person because you dont like him or have a personal dislike for him.and i am sure such freedom of expression abounds in Iran.

LagosShia:
there is no question of "if" here because the bishop said the government does provide money to the church.in your view that implies the bishop cannot complaint therefore of the "persecution" you want us to believe is taking place against the likes of the bishop.but this is flawed because a government persecuting a people would not give money to them part of the iranian budget.it just doesnt make sense.

I used "if" because I do not trust your video which did not interview other christians. Mao was a murdering communist atheist. Mao did not murder the bhuddist that supported his cause. He however destroyed many other buddhist temples and murdered Tibetan buddhist. Just because the Iranian government supports one christian church doesnt mean it does not supress/oppress the others.

LagosShia:
the bishop represents his church and congregation.and i could remember well from watching the video,that particular bishop speaks for iranian orthodox christians.

The bishop only represents his particular church. Let me explain christian denominations for you since you clearly do not understand. "Orthodox" is a broad term in christianity. Orthodox in christianity can mean two things;

a)orthodox- the original/standard churches; Catholics, Eastern Orthodox churches or Oriental orthodox churches
b)othodox- eastern or oriental orthodox church.


Your Iranian Bishop only represents one type of oriental orthodox church. So, in the grand scheme of things, he is nothing in christianity. He is only a puppet for the Iranian government. A shill


The very fact that they did not use a catholic bishop or priest is very telling. Catholics were the first christians. also the largest and most influential. Catholics come first in christianity. The pope is catholic.

LagosShia:
i have only seen those affiliated with american churches complaining.and incredibly enough they do not complain when american tyrannical allies like saudi arabia maltreat or persecute minorities.

You talk as if churches only come from America. Churches are worldwide (UK, Australian, German missionaries) and my videos show Iranian christians being persecuted.

Your propaganda does not work. There are thousands upon thousands of articles complaining about the bad treatments that christians get in Iran. I have alread posted three in my previous comment.

My video shows Iranian christians being persecuted, not americans living in Iran;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLYOogKJe8

Minister Stresses Iran's Respect for All Religious Minorities

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister Seyed Mohammad Hosseini underlined the Islamic Republic's respect and support for the rights of all religious minorities living in Iran.

Hosseini referred to the rights of religious minorities in Iran, and added that in Iran, the religious minorities have representatives at the parliament.

He further underlined that commonalties of different religions should be identified and introduced.

Hosseini made the remarks in a meeting with followers of monotheist religions in Tehran on Saturday night, stressing that the amicable and cordial relations among the followers of monotheistic religions in Islamic Iran is one of the honors of the sacred Islamic Republic.

In relevant remarks in 2010, Vice-Speaker of the Iranian Parliament Mohammad Hassan Aboutorabi Fard had also reiterated the Islamic Republic's respect for religious minorities, and said that minorities in Iran enjoy the same rights that Muslims have even in legislating laws for the country.

"Representatives of the religious minorities enjoy equal rights with other lawmakers in the Islamic Consultative Assembly (parliament) in Iran," Aboutorabi Fard said in a meeting here in Tehran at the time with the Patriarch Cardinal of the Chaldean and Assyrian Catholic Church of Iraq.

He said that based on Islamic guidelines, all religious minorities in Iran are free to observe their religious duties, and they also enjoy the right to choose their own favorite MPs from among their own religious brethrens.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175364

LagosShia:
Minister Stresses Iran's Respect for All Religious Minorities

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister Seyed Mohammad Hosseini underlined the Islamic Republic's respect and support for the rights of all religious minorities living in Iran.

Hosseini referred to the rights of religious minorities in Iran, and added that in Iran, the religious minorities have representatives at the parliament.

He further underlined that commonalties of different religions should be identified and introduced.

Hosseini made the remarks in a meeting with followers of monotheist religions in Tehran on Saturday night, stressing that the amicable and cordial relations among the followers of monotheistic religions in Islamic Iran is one of the honors of the sacred Islamic Republic.

In relevant remarks in 2010, Vice-Speaker of the Iranian Parliament Mohammad Hassan Aboutorabi Fard had also reiterated the Islamic Republic's respect for religious minorities, and said that minorities in Iran enjoy the same rights that Muslims have even in legislating laws for the country.

"Representatives of the religious minorities enjoy equal rights with other lawmakers in the Islamic Consultative Assembly (parliament) in Iran," Aboutorabi Fard said in a meeting here in Tehran at the time with the Patriarch Cardinal of the Chaldean and Assyrian Catholic Church of Iraq.

He said that based on Islamic guidelines, all religious minorities in Iran are free to observe their religious duties, and they also enjoy the right to choose their own favorite MPs from among their own religious brethrens.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010175364

LMAO. So, what about the mistreatment of christians in Iran that is popular knowledge? Are you just going to ignore that? Where muslim apostates who become christians are threatened and some arrested from their homes?



How can there be religious freedom or diversity or tolerance when the law of the land is based on only one religion? The Christian or Jewish MP's in Iran are a big joke. They can not go on
TV or on Billboards and express their faiths and neither can their fellow non-muslims do that in Iran.

As you can see from the comments, no one believes you propaganda

Hmmm..., Logicboy, you are quite close to getting banned again. However, on this thread there is very little evidence to ban you with apart from the fact that you are not Muslim. I just want you to curb yourself.

Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (Sunni,and Islam-Christianity Comparative Religion Preacher) in Praise of Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7uUtGGonUY

maclatunji: Hmmm..., Logicboy, you are quite close to getting banned again. However, on this thread there is very little evidence to ban you with apart from the fact that you are not Muslim. I just want you to curb yourself.

Calm down. Big MAC.

LagosShia: Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (Sunni,and Islam-Christianity Comparative Religion Preacher) in Praise of Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7uUtGGonUY

Do you have any Western non-muslim friend at all? Do you think we take Ahmed Deedat seriously, despite his speaking abilities?

Sunni cleric lauds unifying guidelines of Imam Khomeini (RA)

Iranian Sunni cleric praised the guidelines of late founder of the Islamic Revolution and stressed practicing them as the most important duty for Muslims.

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - Iranian Sunni cleric praised the guidelines of late founder of the Islamic Revolution and stressed practicing them as the most important duty for Muslims.

Akhoond Rahim Berdi Samadi, Friday Prayer Leader of Jargalan in Northern Khorasan Province in an exclusive interview hailed the 33rd anniversary of Islamic Revolution and return of Imam Khomeini (RA) to Iran saying once the Muslims are united, no power in the world heeds to hurt them.

Akhoond Samadi, making a comparison between the situation of Muslims before and after the Islamic Revolution, said, "Muslims before the Islamic Revolution were not free and so much pressure was imposed on them by the previous system."

He praised the present freedom in Iran and called that a fruit of the leadership of Ayatollah Rouhollah Khomeini (RA) and support of the people.

He underscored solidarity of the people and leadership of Imam Khomeini (RA) as the most important factors in victory of the Islamic Revolution.

Friday Prayer leader from Jargalan also said, "Imam Khomeini (RA), in his uprising, did not bring a new religion against Communism or some fake religions but awakened the conscience of the people."

He called the founder of the Islamic Revolution as the beloved in hearts of the people and said the great change in Iran is indebted to the impact of Imam Khomeini (RA).

On the eve of the anniversary of the Revolution in Iran, this Sunni figure hailed the revolutionary act of Imam Khomeini (RA) saying," same way that Ibrahim (AS) and Moses (AS) ended the ruling of Nimrod (rebellious king of Shinar) and Pharaoh, Imam Khomeini (RA) ended the regime of Pahlavi.

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http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=294006

OK, so the jew was holdup in Iran, facing Iranian TV, singing government praises (as we do in Naija). Lets examine some of the reports from the republic shall we;

Special Rapporteur seeks access to Iranian refugees in Turkey

Ahmed Shaheed, a UN special rapporteur charged with examining human rights conditions in Iran, has indicated that he is looking forward to gaining access to Iranian refugees located within Turkey in order to gather additional information about the human rights situation in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Shaheed, a former foreign minister of the Maldives, was selected by the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2011 as a neutral party to investigate human rights violations in Iran and to write an official report based on the findings.

At the end of March of this year, he presented to the UN Human Rights Council findings from the first eight months of his investigation, reporting that the Iranian authorities are increasingly disregarding human rights and arbitrarily imprisoning human rights defenders, journalists, political activists and trade unionists. Furthermore, the number of executions has skyrocketed.

However, Shaheed has had to carry out his investigation from outside Iran since the Iranian authorities have not been cooperative. Because the Iranian government has not permitted the special rapporteur to visit the country, Shaheed had official visits to three European countries, France, Germany and Belgium, which host the Iranian diaspora.

However, human rights defenders note that Shaheed's visit to Turkey would be crucial because Turkey hosts the most Iranian asylum seekers in the world.

“We don't have access to Iran. Either we get information through the Internet or phone, or we go to the surrounding countries where there are Iranian refugees. Since 2009, Turkey has hosted the largest number of registered Iranian refugees and asylum-seekers in the world.

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Joint Statement on the Right to Education and Academic Freedom in Iran

The International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran joins 16 other student and human rights organizations in a statement expressing deep concern for the violation of the right to education and academic freedom in Iran. The statement, addressed to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and the Ministry of Science, Research and Technology, calls for Iran to uphold its obligations under international and domestic law and provide all students with the right to education and academic freedom.

The 17 organizations urged Iranian authorities to end their systematic exclusion of students, particularly Baha’i students and student activists, from university, and allow all students in Iran to freely pursue their education.

The statement calls attention to the official attack on university students and educators, which has been increasing exponentially since the June 2009 presidential election.

The signatory organizations are: Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation, Amnesty International, Arseh Sevom, ARTICLE 19, Bahá’í International Community, Committee of Human Rights Reporters, Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies, Green Students for a Democratic Iran – Southern California, Human Rights Activists in Iran, Human Rights Watch, International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran, International Federation for Human Rights, Iran Human Rights Documentation Center, Iranian League for the Defence of Human Rights, Society to Combat Discrimination in Education, Iranian Democratic Student Association of George Washington University, and United for Iran.




The organizations expressed further concern that the Iranian government also appears to vet students for admission to graduate programs as well as applicants to higher education teaching posts based on their ideological views. The Supreme Council for the Cultural Revolution sets ideological and political requirements for students seeking higher education as a strategy of deterring dissent on university campuses. These regulations require students to have faith in Islam or other state-recognized religions, and be judged “not to be hostile” to the Islamic Republic, and free from “moral corruption.” The regulations are then used by the Ministry of Intelligence, the Ministry of Science, Research and Technology and university “disciplinary committees” to arbitrarily pressure and punish students on the basis of their views, including banning them from admission and enrollment. As such they violate Article 3 of the Iranian Constitution guaranteeing the right to education for all citizens.


http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2012/05/joint-statement/

Ultimate Intolerance...

Iran to make apostasy a capital offence




Legislation has been brought by the government of President Mahmoud Amadinejad before the Iranian Majlis that would mandate the death penalty for apostates from Islam. The law's reach would be worldwide, the legislation says.

The Washington think tank, the Institute on Religion and Public Policy has reported the proposed “Bill for Islamic Penal” law will be the first time that Iran has by statute mandated the death penalty for conversion from Islam.

The legislation used the word Hadd -- meaning that it explicitly sets death as a fixed punishment that cannot be changed, reduced or annulled. In the past, the death penalty has been handed down, and also carried out, in apostasy cases, but it has never before been set down in law, the Institute's president, Joseph Grieboski said.

The proposed Iranian law would enshrine the mandatory death penalty into the country's civil code for men. Women apostates would be imprisoned. Two types of apostasy are set down in the legislation: parental and innate.

Innate apostates are those whose parents were Muslim, declared themselves as Muslim as an adult and then leave the faith.

Parental apostates are those whose parents were non-Muslims, who had become Muslims as adults, and then left the faith.

Article 225-7 states the “Punishment for an innate apostate is death,” while Article 225-8 allows a parental apostate three days to recant their apostasy. If they continue in their unbelief, “the death penalty would be carried out.”

Article 112 would give the law an extraterritorial jurisdiction, extending its mandate to cover those who renounce Islam both inside and outside Iran.

The law criminalizes heresy saying that anyone who claims to be a Prophet, or a Muslim who creates a sect based on that which is contrary to the obligations and necessities of Islam, is considered an apostate.

Those who practice “witchcraft” shall also be “sentenced to death.”

The draft penal code is gross violation of fundamental and human rights by a regime that has repeatedly abused religious and other minorities, said Mr Grieboski. This is simply another legislative attempt on the part of the Iranian regime to persecute religious minorities.

The proposed laws were a legislative tool to consolidate power around the regime and extend its religious tyranny globally, Grieboski said, and should be condemned by the international community.

So much for freedom in Iran..... Lie on LagosShia!

brentkruge: OK, so the jew was holdup in Iran, facing Iranian TV, singing government praises (as we do in Naija). Lets examine some of the reports from the republic shall we;


So much for freedom in Iran..... Lie on LagosShia!

LagosShia, nobody believes your propaganda about minorities in Iran. Religious mnorities suffer in Iran.


I like the way you keep getting shamed.

@brentkruge

The first example you gave is that of a muslim working for the UN (america's political tool).you should have also given us the iranian govt. perspective.and please don't tell me he is muslim.there are a number of muslim traitors and sell-outs.when the egyptian Muhammad al baradei refused to finger iran,the US replaced him as head of IAEA. The first instance doesn't belong to this thread.the bahai and apostacy issues have already being discussed and they are political issues.please do not try to derail my thread by displaying your stupidity here.thanks.

LagosShia: @brentkruge

The first example you gave is that of a muslim working for the UN (america's political tool).you should have also given us the iranian govt. perspective.and please don't tell me he is muslim.there are a number of muslim traitors and sell-outs.when the egyptian Muhammad al baradei refused to finger iran,the US replaced him as head of IAEA. The first instance doesn't belong to this thread.the bahai and apostacy issues have already being discussed and they are political issues.please do not try to derail my thread by displaying your stupidity here.thanks.

Whatever. Please create another thread apologising for your lies. Since you are a muslim, lying is a sin.


There is serious religious persecution in Iran on religious minorities. Tell the truth LagosShia

LagosShia: @brentkruge

The first example you gave is that of a muslim working for the UN (america's political tool.

Also, so all Muslims working in the UN are traitors? You are something! When Muslims go into the UN, they obviously see things as they are and say so. If they are being induced, will all of them capitulate? Are they that cheap to be all bought over?


UN, American political tool, right? And where are the Soviets and China that have checkmated America. Also, let me give, as an example, a couple of UN (America's political tool) resolutions against Isreal (American's poster child in the middle east) SEE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

If the UN is at the beck and call of the Americans like you say, why have they being unable to stop condemnation of Isreal, and the resolution of the Syrian crisis to their favour using the UN. While it is true that the Americans wield considerable powers in the UN, they are facing a balancing act with other world powers of China and Russia.

I wonder why Iranians will QUOTE UN resolutions in their arguements AGAINST Israel, for example, if the UN was so compromised.

you should have also given us the Iranian govt. perspective.

And you expect them to say "yes we are human rights violators!."..... Have you taken your drugs today? You have already given their perspective by showing that propaganda clip of the Jew (maybe so that he can be allowed extra hours for sabbath!)

and please don't tell me he is muslim.there are a number of muslim traitors and sell-outs.

Ok Once the report doesnt favour you, the guy must be a sell out. Thats the mentality regarding apostates, for example. Once a former Muslim doesnt agree with Islam, he is a traitor, a sell out or unhuman

when the egyptian Muhammad al baradei refused to finger iran,the US replaced him as head of IAEA.

Lying LagosShia. Did the US appoint him in the first place to have him replaced at their whimp? He declined a FOURTH term in Office. Despite US objections, he was elected for the third term and declined the fourth. El Baradei was a very courageous man who did his job without fear or favour and showed the world what it meant to be independent, truthful and fearless. It had nothing to do with Islam, it was his character and he did VERY WELL. He blasted the US over Iraq and Sudan.



The United States was the only country to oppose ElBaradei's reappointment and eventually failed to win enough support from other countries to oust ElBaradei. . . . Among countries that supported Elbaradei were China, Russia, Germany, and France. China praised his leadership and objectivity,[17] and supported him for doing "substantial fruitful work, which has maintained the agency's role and credit in international non-proliferation and promoted the development of peaceful use of nuclear energy. His work has been universally recognized in the international community. China appreciates Mr. El Baradei's work and supports his reelection as the agency's director general."[20] F[b]rance, Germany, and some developing countries, have made clear their support for ElBaradei as well[/b].[18] Russia issued a strong statement in favor of re-electing him as soon as possible.
ElBaradei was unanimously re-appointed by the IAEA board on June 13, 2005.[21]

In 2008, ElBaradei said that he would not be seeking a fourth term as director general.[22] Moreover, he said, in an IAEA document,that he was "not available for a further term" in office.[23]

On October 7, 2005, ElBaradei and the IAEA were announced as joint recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei

The first instance doesn't belong to this thread.the bahai and apostacy issues have already being discussed and they are political issues.please do not try to derail my thread by displaying your stupidity here.thanks.

My friend, if Iranians are tolerant towards minorities why are they making the lives of the Bahai a living hell! WHY do apostate face DEATH? Are they not minorities?! If these are political issues, then Iran has POLITICAL PRISONERS!

Look at it this way. A child is born into a Bahai family. Because his family believes in the Bahai faith, he is denied schooling, he faces constant government and public harassment, their worship centers and graves demolished. If Iran has a problem with some of the Bahais, why not use intelligence to trap those involved. Why deal with every bahai like that?

Is this not the same thing you said about Nigerians painting Muslims with the same brush of Boko Haram? If truely some Bahai's compromise why deal so cruelly to ALL Bahais. Ok may the west should have demolished ALL mosques and deported ALL muslims because of 9/11, and lets ask you and the Iranians if that is OK.

Why would leaving Islam attract the death penalty? Why are Iranians not free to ditch Islam? Na by force? and you say its political? Its religious persecution which the Koran says its worse than slaughter! Verse 2:191 . Why should the state care that I was born a muslim and must remain a Muslim? Yet the same state celebrates me when I leave other religions for Islam? Hypocrisy of the highest order from the Iranians!