Is it possible to get the 4cyl c class that isn't a kompressor?

elite: Is it possible to get the 4cyl c class that isn't a kompressor?

Yes!

I do have one piece of caution to hand over to you; avoid the lower 4 cylinder models. They are underpowered and you might not be impressed by the performance it offers when you have others in the car with you. So, 220 and up!

How do we know if its a 180 or 200 or 220 witout the inscription on the trunk?

Trac:

I don't like the BMW's, so you won't get anything from me concerning those brands.

If you are purchasing the Audi's, I will not recommend the American specifications. Reliability is questionable and it isn't uncommon to spend thousands in a single service job. The European brands are reliable. This includes the VW as well. The only American spec of the family that is close to the quality of the Europeans are the Toureg models. This
explains why there are clashing remarks about the VW/Audi brands in terms of reliability.

Siena, ur input will be highly appreciated here...kindly do justice to this thread...

TRAC,....

OK PLS GIV EXAMPLE OF C CLASS MERCEDES BENZ THAT IS NOT A V6- THAT U CAN RECOMMEND FOR SOMEONE TO BUY.
Or any mercedes benz model dats not a v6.

waitin ur reply

Cus i intend buyin this MERCEDES CCLASS 2002 c240.

I'm not sure you have driven or own a benz b4, i live in the worst street in PH and own a benz 190 for 6 yrs now without any repainting nor change body parts nor camber and it still luks like i bought it today. I later bought a c class fairly used last yr alongside my neighbor who bought Toyota camry 2000 model, direct clean belgium, and changes camber and stabilizers linkages every 3 or 4 monthly intervals,,who even envy that he should have bought a benz..The c class is bomb apart from the wire harness that i need to change..and im a heavy traveler, from PH to Calabar, Calabar to Eket and vice versa with those cars..i have never broken down one day on d road wt these machines,,what are u not telling me

You can't compare benz dependability with Toyota, nor ruggedness, nor performance nor durability and luxury..its far too obvious , pls dnt mislead

Trac:

The Mercedes in question is no where as dependable as the Toyota within the original post.

In addition to what I said, Mercedes Benzes (21st century) is no where as dependable as a Toyota. This is not the 20th century. No argument or point-of-view can prove otherwise. If you're in doubt, start with the definition of the word "dependablity" and ask those that own them.





You wouldn't know till you own one. The post-war Mercedes standards are the reputations you have familiarised yourself with and they were designed with an approach of durability with no expense spared. Mercedes-ownership is not the same as Toyota-ownership. You can drive a Toyota for 10 years without having to replace a part (except wear items). This isn't so with the Mercedes. This is the "league" I was referring to. If you aren't the kind to do a lot preventative maintenances and use genuine parts and follow specifications strictly, your ownership experience will not be as enthusiastic as envisioned.

au.hanson:
I'm not sure you have driven or own a benz b4, i live in the worst street in PH and own a benz 190 for 6 yrs now without any repainting nor change body parts nor camber and it still luks like i bought it today. I later bought a c class fairly used last yr alongside my neighbor who bought Toyota camry 2000 model, direct clean belgium, and changes camber and stabilizers linkages every 3 or 4 monthly intervals,,who even envy that he should have bought a benz..The c class is bomb apart from the wire harness that i need to change..and im a heavy traveler, from PH to Calabar, Calabar to Eket and vice versa with those cars..i have never broken down one day on d road wt these machines,,what are u not telling me

You can't compare benz dependability with Toyota, nor ruggedness, nor performance nor durability and luxury..its far too obvious , pls dnt mislead

you muddled Trac's comment, 21st century era Mercedes isn't the same as 20th century, 203 vs 202 and below...

yungboss,
what exactly is wire harness?

Noted, apology rendered..sorry Trac

yungboss:
you muddled Trac's comment, 21st century era Mercedes isn't the same as 20th century, 203 vs 202 and below...

its more like a system or strands of insulated conductors bound together with insulating materials, used in the electrical system of a machine...in this case your vehicle. It originates from your ECU to the applicable/useable areas of the car

are you knew to MB'S. If so close your eyes and buy anyone then come back to NL preferably the Merc thread.

elite: yungboss,
what exactly is wire harness?

Can someone in this humble forum kindly help a brother out. I want to know where i can get keys to a Mercedes Benz ML 320 and a C240 as the two keys got lost some days back at an outing. I need a help on this asap. Thanks

first of all prove your ownership of those vehicles e.g by posting a pix taken with them here...then help will come.

Bimsee: Can someone in this humble forum kindly help a brother out. I want to know where i can get keys to a Mercedes Benz ML 320 and a C240 as the two keys got lost some days back at an outing. I need a help on this asap. Thanks

oh!.............. didn't ask for you to come do it for me or give me d keys sir. I only asked for you to help with a contact of a professional who can get me the keys. If i have to find a solution to that, i can very well walk up to a Mercedes Benz clinic shop or the Coscharis in my neighbourhood (Awoyaya). I am soliciting help from this forum cause of the reliability of the users on it and i might get some info on a technician which might be affordable as i have heard different outrageous prices.
Thanks

elite:

Dats quite interesting. Kindly comment on the effectiveness of the a/c.

The a/c is chill. It has what is called climate control. It enables you to regulate the ambient temperature of the car.
The acceleration of the C320 is superb. It can accelerate from 0-100Km in 6 seconds. Each of the car's 6 cylinders has a pair of spark plugs. This is the reason it has a higher fuel mpg than the other models. The sight of the engine is awesome. Unlike the other C class models, the car has a dashboard diagnostics that enables it to detect faults in the car. Night driving is lovely because of the bright & clear headlamps.
The best aspect of the car is the compact sexy look.

fegflu: TRAC,....

OK PLS GIV EXAMPLE OF C CLASS MERCEDES BENZ THAT IS NOT A V6- THAT U CAN RECOMMEND FOR SOMEONE TO BUY.
Or any mercedes benz model dats not a v6.

waitin ur reply

Cus i intend buyin this MERCEDES CCLASS 2002 c240.

The C240 has 6 cylinders like the C320. They look alike in appearance. The C320 engine has a higher torgue than that of the C240.

smartchoice: first of all prove your ownership of those vehicles e.g by posting a pix taken with them here...then help will come.

i agree with you smartchoice, i dont see a point why its difficult to post a picture of your car if its truly yours and you adore it. we are not cops or practicing autotechnicians here but benzes have joined us together and we look out for each others cars, we are enthusiastic about our cars and show it off with PRIDE at the slightest opportunity.

elite: Hi guys
Kindly advise on the pros and cons of dis machine. Want to change my 2001 camry dat has served me for 3years and I wanna drive a german machine. Auto gurus kindly advise

@ elite. moving from a toyota 01 model to a c240/320 is like moving from outskirts of town to the heart of the city. it comes with its associated cost, u will have to up your maintenance budget for instance if u want to change oil u will need 8ltrs of mobil1 or total quartz9000 thats about 16-18,000 naira which in your camry u probably use 4ltrs of regular oil that cost about #3,500. and there is also a slight diff in fuel economy and the parts of c240/320 are double that of 01 camry pricewise. so be prepared but repairs are not always regular but we will be glad to welcome u to the benz family, but like i said its like moving from the outskirts to the heart of the city.

I bought a c180 1998 model almost a year ago at the cost of 650k and must say that the ride is awesome with good fuel economy and low cost of maintenance. Not sure I will ever use any other car as the comfort is not comparable with any other ride of the same age.

guy forget that c320, jst find urself a well looked after 'God's hammer' c230 kompressor and u'll be loving benz all ur life.

tommysparks:
@ elite. moving from a toyota 01 model to a c240/320 is like moving from outskirts of town to the heart of the city. it comes with its associated cost, u will have to up your maintenance budget for instance if u want to change oil u will need 8ltrs of mobil1 or total quartz9000 thats about 16-18,000 naira which in your camry u probably use 4ltrs of regular oil that cost about #3,500. and there is also a slight diff in fuel economy and the parts of c240/320 are double that of 01 camry pricewise. so be prepared but repairs are not always regular but we will be glad to welcome u to the benz family, but like i said its like moving from the outskirts to the heart of the city.

tommy na 6litrs no be 8.

Gee2728:
tommy na 6litrs no be 8.

I believe it depends on the german engine. mine consumes 8 litres, a C320 V6 benz engine.

@Gee its 8ltrs on my manual and same in consumption if u use 6ltrs on a c240/320 u will get low oil warning after about 3000km, it happened to me and I wondered where d oil went without any Leackage when a roadside mechanic did my first oil change.

tommysparks: @Gee its 8ltrs on my manual and same in consumption if u use 6ltrs on a c240/320 u will get low oil warning after about 3000km, it happened to me and I wondered where d oil went without any Leackage when a roadside mechanic did my first oil change.

Ok I see, point noted. My W202 C230K takes 6 litrs.. Tho it makes no diff 2 me cos all the time I have 2 buy 8 litrs.

My Mum's w202 C200 takes 6litres of oil.

Yes but the C320 and C240 are bigger engines hence the need for more oil

tpacalipse: My Mum's w202 C200 takes 6litres of oil.

tommysparks:
@ elite. moving from a toyota 01 model to a c240/320 is like moving from outskirts of town to the heart of the city. it comes with its associated cost, u will have to up your maintenance budget for instance if u want to change oil u will need 8ltrs of mobil1 or total quartz9000 thats about 16-18,000 naira which in your camry u probably use 4ltrs of regular oil that cost about #3,500. and there is also a slight diff in fuel economy and the parts of c240/320 are double that of 01 camry pricewise. so be prepared but repairs are not always regular but we will be glad to welcome u to the benz family, but like i said its like moving from the outskirts to the heart of the city.

@Elite, since you are moving from 2001 camry to benz , i will advice that you go for the w202 c230 kompressor if you are looking for power and reasonable maintenance cost

Gee2728: guy forget that c320, jst find urself a well looked after 'God's hammer' c230 kompressor and u'll be loving benz all ur life.

or the w203 of the c200kompressor you wont regret this, and the w203 is sweeter, have very sharper chassis than the w202 but a slight up in maintenance than the w202 though very moderate too than the c240/c320

I bet you you would almost have a better output in performance with the w202 c230kompressor/w203 c200Knompressor than the naturally aspirated engines of the c240 , even with a better fuel economy as well, with a very good return in fuel economy of the w203 c200 as well compared to the c240/c320. The 6 cylinder c320, this car carries 24 spark plugs with better performance even yield better economy than the 6 cylinder c240 MB

Look at these, compare them NOTE THE ECONOMY ARE IN UK MILES PER GALLON.This will explain it all. You can see the 4 cylinder w202 c230 kompressor giving you a better takeoff(Acceleration 0-60 mph at 8.40 sec.and can sustain that fits followed by the w203 c200Kompressor with sportier chassis) than the 6 cylinder c240 of Acceleration 0-60 mph at 9.50 sec:

W203 BENZ C240
Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 2,597 cc
Cylinders 6
Valves 18V (3 valves per cylinder)
Torque 240 Nm → 177 lb-ft (4,500 rpm)
Power Output 170 bhp (5,500 rpm)
Kilowatts 123 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Automatic
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 144 mph (232 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 9.50 sec.
Average Mileage 26 mpg
Highway Mileage 36 mpg
City Mileage 18 mpg

W203 BENZ C320
Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 3,199 cc
Cylinders 6
Valves 18V (3 valves per cylinder)
Torque 310 Nm → 229 lb-ft (3,000 rpm)
Power Output 218 bhp (5,700 rpm)
Kilowatts 158 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Automatic
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 152 mph (245 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 7.80 sec.
Average Mileage 27 mpg
Highway Mileage 37 mpg
City Mileage 18 mpg


W203 C200 KOMPRESSOR
Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 1,795 cc
Cylinders 4
Valves 16V DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Torque 240 Nm → 177 lb-ft (3,000 rpm)
Power Output 163 bhp (5,500 rpm)
Kilowatts 118 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Automatic
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 144 mph (231 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 9.40 sec.
Average Mileage 32 mpg
Highway Mileage 44 mpg
City Mileage 22 mpg

W202 C230 KOMPRESOR

Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 2,295 cc
Cylinders 4
Valves 16V DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Torque 280 Nm → 207 lb-ft (2,500 rpm)
Power Output 193 bhp (5,300 rpm)
Kilowatts 140 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Automatic
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 141 mph (227 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 8.40 sec.
Average Mileage 29 mpg
Highway Mileage 37 mpg
City Mileage 20 mpg

W202 C180 FACELIFTED MODEL
Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 1,799 cc
Cylinders 4
Valves 16V DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Torque 170 Nm → 125 lb-ft (3,700 rpm)
Power Output 122 bhp (5,500 rpm)
Kilowatts 89 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Manual
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 120 mph (193 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 12.00 sec.
Average Mileage 31 mpg
Highway Mileage 39 mpg
City Mileage 22 mpg

KOMBE: I bought a c180 1998 model almost a year ago at the cost of 650k and must say that the ride is awesome with good fuel economy and low cost of maintenance. Not sure I will ever use any other car as the comfort is not comparable with any other ride of the same age.

But if you want a very moderate BENZ as in maintenance, compared to your 2001 toyota if not better than, go for the facelift c180-you would ever be happy with yourself. Why facelift models? Perhabs here, you are not faced with the risk of the wire harness issues predominant in the prefacelift models; also no danger of buying the one wt bad volatile actuator that was recalled too in the prefaclifted models, besides beautiful smoldered MB cars, one of the most reliable ever built,with the interior in and out and material.

I would never recommend a w203 6 cylinder benz w203 c240 to any body because of her maintenance ups and bad fuel economy , worst still the 4matic of these models- slightly higher in maintenance with poor fuel economy.

But for the enthusiast who are ready to foot such bills there's nothing wrong about that. If i still wanted to buy a 6 cylinder machine with naturally aspirated engine, it should be the c320 or c350. Atimes i cant imagine what lead Benz to produce the c240 machine with her kind of unreliability, not too good 6 cylinder performance and poor fuel economy

[quote author=au.hanson]
My own version of this car has hit a top speed of 235km/h on a stretch of abuja-kaduna express. About the fuel economy, u'll hav 2 drive like a grandpa 2 achieve 18mpg in the city. But if ur like me with a heavy foot u'll be lucky 2 get 15mpg in town. Its a sweet car though. Maintenance wise, its been about 4month since I last fix anything on it so I'll give it a pass been a daily driver.

W202 C230 KOMPRESOR

Engine Specifications and Gearbox
Displacement 2,295 cc
Cylinders 4
Valves 16V DOHC (4 valves per cylinder)
Torque 280 Nm → 207 lb-ft (2,500 rpm)
Power Output 193 bhp (5,300 rpm)
Kilowatts 140 kW
Gearbox 5-speed Automatic
Performance and Economy
Top Speed 141 mph (227 km/h)
Acceleration 0-60 mph 8.40 sec.
Average Mileage 29 mpg
Highway Mileage 37 mpg
City Mileage 20 mpg

[quote author=Gee2728][/quote]
Of course, it is not easy to achieve these mpg in our densely populated cities. It's only of recent , that i started achieving, 18-21mpg and atimes i achieve 27mpg , that's when the roads are really free and i manage to drive steadily about 80km/h in few cases with my c180. But while travelling , i really use to achieve between 30-39mg on our highways. Who cares about mpg anymore

Please can anyone tell me what to do on a mercedez benz c 280 2003 model. The fan delays in picking. And when I try to on the Ac the fan will not pick and d condenser and compressor become hot.

Akin2208:
Please can anyone tell me what to do on a mercedez benz c 280 2003 model. The fan delays in picking. And when I try to on the Ac the fan will not pick and d condenser and compressor become hot.

Does the fan(s) eventually pick when you switch on the AC?

[quote author=Gee2728 post=18825174][/quote] with what you said above, will you advise me as a first time user of benz cars to go for a c 230 or 200 kompressor? Please note that I drive for average of 2 hrs a day. Will 20,000 naira fuel run for a month? Then on average maintenance, will 50k do the job in 4months. Pls be practical in your response because I am a Toyota and Honda product user for the past 8 years and I am seriously contemplating a switch. Help me take a rational decision guys