Freksy:

Your response sounds like: I don't know, let us wait and see if it will happen again in the future.

Absolutely!!!!. thats the whole idea of evolution innit? No one can predict evolution. that's y it is random minute mutation that causes major changes over long periods of time.

If u want me to come here and say I know what chimpanzees will look like a million years from now then i'll be lying. we can make suggestions but nothing more

Freksy:

Mr "sense maker", I have seen the sense you are making. Thump up! Please make more sense here:

Today, Gorillas (ancestral group) and Chimpanzees (intermediate group b/w Gorilla & man) are still in existence, what stops gorillas from evolving to chimpanzees and chimpanzees from evolving to humans (derived descendant group)?

Again, what prevents frogs (ancestral group ) from evolving to lizards (intermediate group b/w frogs & man) and lizards from evolving to humans (derived descendant group)?

Deep down within you or in your mind's eyes can you see any of these evolutionary transitions taking place today or in the future?

You still don't get it. Gorillas are not the ancestors of humans. They are more like our cousins and have been evolving for just as long as we have. They merely resemble our common ancestor more than we do given the fact they are adapted to a very similar environment to where the ancestors lived. The same applies to all the other examples I gave.

Just because reptiles evolved from amphibian-like creatures doesn't mean all frogs are eventually going to turn into lizards. Evolution doesn't follow any predetermined path. The only thing that is certain is that traits that give a survival advantage are always going to become more prevalent in the population. Over time the accumulated changes will eventually result in creatures that look very different form their ancestors.

It is a very simple simple concept. It's not that hard to understand.

Freksy:

Mr "sense maker", I have seen the sense you are making. Thump up! Please make more sense here:

Today, Gorillas (ancestral group) and Chimpanzees (intermediate group b/w Gorilla & man) are still in existence, what stops gorillas from evolving to chimpanzees and chimpanzees from evolving to humans (derived descendant group)?

Again, what prevents frogs (ancestral group ) from evolving to lizards (intermediate group b/w frogs & man) and lizards from evolving to humans (derived descendant group)?

Deep down within you or in your mind's eyes can you see any of these evolutionary transitions taking place today or in the future?

You still don't get it. Gorillas are not the ancestors of humans. They are more like our cousins and have been evolving for just as long as we have. They merely resemble our common ancestor more than we do given the fact they are adapted to a very similar environment to where the ancestors lived. The same applies to all the other examples I gave.

Just because reptiles evolved from amphibian-like creatures doesn't mean all frogs are eventually going to turn into lizards. Evolution doesn't follow any predetermined path. The only thing that is certain is that traits that give a survival advantage are always going to become more prevalent in the population. Over time the accumulated changes will eventually result in creatures that look very different form their ancestors.

It is a very simple simple concept. It's not that hard to understand.

Area_boy: I've just copied from that thread and put it here for ease.

"Two questions posed to me. I'll obviously take the easy one on first.

When are we gona find this life?. Well, we only just discovered that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around less than 400years ago. As science progresses, more answers will come.

Now to the big one about evolution. Since you have refused to go read.

Unicellular organisms doesn't have to jump into a multicellular one over night to prove evolution. A series of minor alterations occur over time as the system acquires new "attributes" and "traits" that eventually leads to a multicellular one. This can be thousands of years or more.

While we battle about this seemingly difficult question to grasp, we might as well go into a much simpler one that certainly proves Modern Human beings having a common ancestor with our ape cousins.


Now, from the fossil records and close examination of bone structure of our ancestors, Science was able to make a link between us and the great apes. However, less than twenty years ago this fact was proven beyond all reasonable doubt by Genetics.


Now we know that the genetic codes of great apes as well as humans have been sampled properly and viewed under different light. So, if we have a common ancestor with these apes, our DNA structure should confirm that by resembling that of the modern apes (chimps, gorilla and orangutan)

Under close examination, the Human Genome differs from these apes with two less chromosomes giving us 46. Instead of the 48 chromosomes other apes have (23 from each parent for humans and 24 for each parent for apes). This goes against everything evolution has suggested and threatens to discount the idea

We cant simply say we lost two as that wont make any sense since all information for us are pre-registered in there. So the explanation of this apparent loss of TWO chromosomes must be in the human genome somewhere.

Observe the picture below. To the left is a sample of what one chromosome looks like (a representation). with the blue markers called telomere (as it is always found at the tail end of the chromosome) and the red markers centromere (cos its always found at the centre of the chromosome).

Since we only have 23 pairs of chromosome, then an explanation must be in there somewhere why we seemingly "lost" a pair or even why the apes "gained" a pair. Given that the three apes all have 48 each and only us have 46 it is wise to start the search in us (the odd one out)



You know what? the second picture on the right basically is the smoking gun!!! Human chromosome number 2 clearly shows telomere and centromere where they do not belong! correctly suggesting a FUSION of two chromosomes into one. This is UNIQUE to our lineage. hence giving us one less pair and making us significantly different from our cousins.

Happily concluding the fact that is EVOLUTION. We evolved from something that used to look like apes and took a different path and here we are today.



If you don't understand the maths, check here

p1....p2 ( p1,p2 is simply Parent 1 and parent 2)
24....24 ( take two each )
2....2 ( what have we got left?)
22....22 (is all we got left)

the 4 (2, 2) we have above will now fuse their neigbour to become 2 (1, 1)
1....1 (after fusion)
22....22 ( add back the 22)

23....23 ( modern Human)


Im not even a biologist or a genetic scientist and I understand this its so simple and flawless it almost wants to make me say the "work of god" LOL




If you still have doubts about evolution, this time TRY and read "Ring Species". Simple display of evolution in todays world"

Evolutionists assume that chromosome numbers are an indication of an evolutionary relationship between ape and man. If this logic were valid, then man would have a much closer relative than the chimpanzee.

Stable Antelope and Reeve's muntjac have 46 chromosomes like human.

Beaver, Dear mouse, Gorilla, Hare, Orangutan, Potato and Tobacco have 48 chromosomes like Chimpanzee.

The above shows that the concept of genetic similarity as regards the number of chromosomes constitutes no evidence for the theory of evolution.

Genetic similarities among living things are actually evidence for creation rather than for evolution. It is perfectly natural for the bodies of humans and other living things to exhibit molecular similarities, because all living things are made up of the same molecules, use the same water and atmosphere, and consume foods made up of the same molecules. Naturally, their metabolisms—and thus, their genetic structures—will tend to resemble one another. However, this is no evidence that they evolved from a common ancestor.

All the buildings in the world are constructed from similar materials—bricks, metals, woods, cement, and so forth. But this does not imply that these buildings evolved from one another. They were built independently, using common materials. The same principle applies to living things.

Apart from the superficial similarity between human beings and apes, there is no question of their being closer to each other than to other animals. In terms of ability, a bee producing honeycombs that are geometrical miracles, or a spider weaving a web that is a marvel of engineering, are much closer to man than are apes. In some respects, one can even say that these invertebrates are superior to apes.

Yet the huge gulf between human beings and apes is too vast to be bridged with evolutionist claims and myths. Apes are animals and, in terms of consciousness, are no different to horses or dogs. Human beings, on the other hand, are conscious, possess free will and are capable of thought, speech, reasoning, decision-making and judgment.

No physical similarity can bridge this widest gulf between humans and other living things.