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Religion / Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Busybody2(f): 9:03am On Sep 21
chrisviral:

Well I have tried identifying the "divine purpose" for my life but nothing, gets more complicated with each dream I keep having, and all people keep telling me "you are a great man" " God is particularly interested you" "you are some divine kid" huh, yet everything is so so difficult for me, Even when I try harder than others, nothing freaking works.
Face it, the love isn't equal, God loves me, Yes, that's why I am alive and breathing and healthy but that where the love ends, others are lucky to enough to enjoy the love to get whatsoever they want...

And BTW I have asked like 10 pastors to pray for me to just get a clearer understanding of what the "divine purpose" is hmmmm nothing!
Damn I even prayed for God to help me serve him, nothing, sometimes I'm tempted to say maybe he doesn't even care (I ask for forgiveness) but right now, im getting confused and I don't know what to think anymore!



chrisviral:

Well I will wait for busybody.

In the same boat as you, but you are a very commendable person, and at such a young age too, infact I envy and admire your strength and zeal a lot...I have learnt a lot from you and still need to learn more Sir


When I found out, I was told all I needed to know pretty quickly but shutdown and tried to run and rebelled...until I stumbled on Torchwave's thread...and just one email from him put things into perspective for me...and I have been able to draw strength from his subsequent posts.
Religion / Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Busybody2(f): 8:34am On Sep 21
Here Torchwave



Verse 1:
Oh Thou who knowest my beginning,
Thou who created the plan,
who orchestrated my life's journey;
God, You are my God.

Verse 2:
God of decisions, Creator of answers,
Thou who ordained my way,
through my transition, held my position;
God, You are my God.

Chorus 1:
I will forever give You praise,
honor and celebrate Your name,
God of the past, present, and Who is to come;
oh (God, You are my God).

Verse 1

Chorus 2:
(I will) forever give You praise,
(honor and) celebrate Your name,
(God of the) past, present, and Who is to come;
God, You are my God.

(I will) forever give You praise,
(honor and) celebrate Your name,
(God of the) past, present,
and Who is to come,
Who is to come...

Bridge:
Whatever You do with (me) it's alright,
(You have my total trust), You have my trust.
(Glory and) honor, (dominion and) power;
(God, You are my God).

Vamp:
God, oh God,
You are the only wise God.

Ending:
(Oh Thou who knowest my beginning),
(God, You are my God).

God, You are my God.
(repeat as desired)
Religion / Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Busybody2(f): 8:32am On Sep 21
torchwave: Right now, I'm going through a very difficult phase of seeking God.

This is why I have not been able to update the thread on my journey.

Whatever the battle or challenges or difficulties I face, I am always victorious because God has made me more than a conqueror.

Hopefully, next week I shall continue updating the thread on my journey to see the Face of God.

One thing I do have to tell you, I will never give up seeking God neither will I abandon this thread even after its purpose has been achieved. I will continue to be here for others here or yet to come to help them achieve the same experience.

So help me God.

Amen in Jesus' name.

Whatever your lot, the Lord has taught us to say IT IS WELL WITH OUR SOUL...
Religion / Re: A Nairalander Prophesied About Synagogue Church Disaster!. It's Shocking! by Busybody2(f): 8:20am On Sep 21
Donfamous: ur hatred for pentecostal churches ehn? Na only God fit save u

Lol

Free Nairaland's-numero-uno-accuser-of-the-brethren biko cheesy cheesy cheesy
Religion / Re: The Church Is Under Attack by Busybody2(f): 8:13am On Sep 21
The gates of hell cannot prevail THE CHURCH IS MARCHING ON...
Politics / Re: Fg Wants American Security Forces Out Of Nigeria. by Busybody2(f): 8:00am On Sep 21
Brouhahahahahahaha, so people actually believed the tripe that US security forces genuinely came to Nigeria to help find the phantom Chibok girls, tsk, tsk, tsk grin grin grin

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Religion / Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Busybody2(f): 3:49pm On Aug 29
torchwave: WEEKLY UPDATE


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Pls get in touch as soon as you can, at the busy...........@yahoo.co.uk email addy. Thanks God bless you Sirree.
Religion / Re: I Think I Need Advice At This Point. by Busybody2(f): 5:39pm On Aug 26
Graviton2: I'm not one for words, so I will be straight — I'm finding it even more difficult to trust God. For some reason, I'm beginning to lose faith and I'm fighting consciously to continue in faith. I don't really know what's happening but I will say recent incidents in my life has taken quite a toll on my mentality and how I view things.

I don't want to lose faith, I don't want to hate God nor do I want to become what I think I will become if I don't voice out and seek advice about this. The funny thing is, my personality is still the same. I have asked a lot of people if I have changed in any way over the past month and they have all said I'm still normal but I can feel myself turning away from God...and I don't want to.

I need advise and prayers.

Hi, I believe you can pick up something from this thread. I will keep you in my prayers as well...

http://www.nairaland.com/1871586/warn-call-repeated-message-life#25730716
Religion / Re: I Warn, I Call - A Repeated Message On Life And Soul by Busybody2(f): 5:29pm On Aug 26
The most soul-stirring post I have ever come across on NL smiley

Life...blink and you miss it sad

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Religion / Re: Meet Man Who’s ‘been To Heaven 4x’: Met Jesus, Moses, Abel, Draws Map [photos] by Busybody2(f): 9:48pm On Aug 25
kandiikane: So..He could have seen God but as a different being hence why he said 'young'. Maybe he saw him as he perceived him to be....

I had a dream once as a child and it was him, but I can't remember his face neither his voice but I do remember the light, the figure and his smile. Come see laugh wey dem laugh when I told my family the next day. grin

Point is, it is possible for God to be seen as human or an animal, spirit whatever and you can say you have 'seen' God because he has no literal form but he can be anything and everything.

Likeminds. Can't recall His face too and I can never forget His radiance/glory and the way He was chuckling...He is the same height as Jesus too wink

But in my own case, my peeps are used to my precognition gift/dreams, so nothing fazes them anymore cheesy

shocked How come you haven't been "arrested" by Him and given tons and tons of homework to do. Not fair angry angry angry angry cheesy
Religion / Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Busybody2(f): 12:52pm On Aug 25
torchwave: Busybody2 should address your question ...



shocked Error, you were meant to say busybody2 needs handholding from Chrisviral shocked

Brb. Off to check email...
Religion / Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by Busybody2(f): 12:38pm On Aug 25
nannymcphee:



...but I believe there are people who hear or know things from God maybe thru word of knowledge etc there are times ministers want to pray & they are able to know what to say or do at that point in time at the leading of Gods spirit, I personally haven't really had such encounters so I settle for what I have which is Gods word!!

Pls how do u explain those deliverance minister who are able to see/know what happened in the past that's causing the deliveree's present circumstance?? It could be as simple as revealing that the person was dedicated to an idol by their grandparent stuffs like that?

Thanks


1st Corinthian 12 expounds on all these gifts and how we are all members of the body of Christ and how God decides what gift to give and lastly, how anyone as well can "also covet" these gifts...

It is all about the Gospel of Christ, so God can use us anyhow He deems fit and we can also ask for these gifts smiley
Religion / Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by Busybody2(f): 12:27pm On Aug 25
ayobase:


u gat me cracked up again......lolz

he will never fail you.

but u should know that he doesn't take shyte......Moses a case study.

walking in His directives and making your petition known will do.

God also negotiate.

a case of a man who was denied entry to Deliverance Programme at Prayer City cos he went late to register. Due to that he determined never to near the church again.

one day God asked him to attend the church. The church he attends shares the same road with mfm, but a bit ahead. he has been getting this message from God, but he kept turning deaf ears.

on a particular sunday, his car broke down just in front of this mfm church. he did all he could to get the car fixed, but the car wouldnt. he heard the voice again, "here is the church before you now. go attend". he succumbed, but negotiated with God, "you are going to do three things for me if you want me to attend this church"

God did those for him with a month......his testimony.


as God takes the lead, one can also ask questions.......He loves you, so He will respond.




Mintayo:
Yes! If you are looking at the word negotiating as it is,then you are on your own!
Isaiah 41: 21.
Produce your cause, saith the Lord; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the king of Jacob.
Isaiah 43: 23.
Put me in remembrance, let Us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified.
Gen 18: 27-33.



You guys might not know it yet, but you have the same great discernment and breadth of mind, like the sand that is on the seashore, as King Solomon.

I pray the eyes of your heart that has been enlightened may never be shut again in Jesus' name.

Thanks for the insight on negotiation...I can now confidently go back to God cos there is a lot of people's life/salvation riding on this.

Thanks once again.

(((hugs)))

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Religion / Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by Busybody2(f): 11:16am On Aug 25
Tgirl4real:

My own point is that of what relevance is the audible voice to you?

1. You are not an Apostle

2. You are not a prophet

3. We have received the promise

4. The scriptures is complete

Of what relevance is that your experience to the Church of Christ?


Tgirl4real:

Good!!! grin grin grin

I bet this chastisement came through the instrumentality of His word! Or is it more than your conscience pricking you and people scolding you to do the right thing?


Isaiah 64 and 1st Corinthians 2 tells us eyes have not seen, neither has ears heard...


We are all instruments to be used in God's vineyard... The same Bible chapter that talks about diversities of gift and operations and differences of administration of spiritual gifts such as "some appointed to teach, be Apostles, be Prophets, etc, also talks about us all being one body in Christ, with all part relevant. God's decision to make me a vessel and bestow His abundant honour on me by talking to me is all about Christ and His crucification and the demonstration of God's love...
Fashion / Re: Meet The Man Who Has Lots Of Shirts Made With Pure Gold(photo) by Busybody2(f): 6:47pm On Aug 10
shocked Hmmm, didn't know Indians had guys over 5 feet tall lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Religion / Re: Testimony Time (A Thread To Tell Of The Awesomeness Of God) by Busybody2(f): 11:15am On Aug 04
ayobase: It was during Power Must Change Hand (PMCH) programme on the 2nd, August of 2014, an every first-saturday-of-the-month prayer meeting by Mountain Of Fire and Miracles Ministries. The pastor had to play back a recorded testimony to encourage us before we were connected live to Prayer City.

A woman reported and published a case of her 3yrs old kidnapped daughter. She went for prayers for the deliverance/release of her baby. it was already 3 daya or so. On the last night, she told God her daughter must be found.

before sleeping, she got a call from the police station to come check if the child recovered on a distant express road in the middle of the night is hers.......... the child is hers.

i never knew when a drop of tears dripped while watching the mother engulfed with joy as she testified.

it was God indeed.


Miracle working God. Oba atofarati bi oke...

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Religion / Re: Testimony Time (A Thread To Tell Of The Awesomeness Of God) by Busybody2(f): 11:13am On Aug 04
ayobase:

the grace is always sufficient.

He has been keeping tab on before your MIL started tinkering.


Hmmm, the story of my life...there I was without a worry in the world, living life to the max...I would share all with you someday soon...cos now I understand why God had to step in. My MIL goes round in the spirit realm crying "mo tu eran ohun si'le" (my crime - we marry/born), whereas I didn't even know that God was already on the scene when I heeded that call, heck it was even God who orchestrated it all smiley


Hmmm, life...
Religion / Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by Busybody2(f): 11:04am On Aug 04
ayobase:

u got me cracked up...I like ur sense of humour....no dulling moment.

you are one of those lucky ones.

no going back....no renegotiation. ....God shall perfect all.


Awwww, thanks, but you call this lucky, me that I cannot pray one minute without falling asleep, Church sef I no dey go, I was dropped right in it, like a lightening bolt, its was like a parallel existence to me before, I used to think it was Nollywood stuffs and fake, so was rooted to the spot for a year 100% sure I was dreaming it all...in all I just thank God because the lack of serious bone in my body helped cushion the effect otherwise making me sole resident of yabaleft sef no go fit contain me...


Hmmm, seems like it, although I fought God so hard, I really kicked off...that why is my own different, that why don't I get my own free will too like others, that for example not everyone can be Doctors, Lawyers, etc so why should I tow the line He has earmarked for me, that He should please free me as not everyone comes first in a race and I am happy to take last position, etc...and when my bribing and pleading didn't work, I started asking around what happens if one refuses to do the will of God and I was told na hellfire straight, cos the will wasn't for my own benefit alone...I was still grumbling and contemplating and thinking that hmmm maybe I should start preparing for hell then, but I would need to commit more sins and "j'aiye ori mi to the fullest" to make my punishment more worthwhile...that was when I heard "disobedience is worse than witchcraft" and I was shocked to see this confirmed in the Bible too shocked that was when I knew I don enter am cheesy I have been giving God the side eye look since then and have told Him - me and Him go enter one knicker when I get to heaven cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Religion / Re: Please I Need Advise!!! by Busybody2(f): 9:57am On Aug 04
neche2012: I sincerely need advise on this challenge i am facing presently. My mum has been down with stroke for the past nine months, we have been treating her to no avail. She had suffered this first time two years ago, by God's grace and mercy she became ok until this particular one.
I got a message recently that she made a covenant with the queen of the coast since she did not fulfil the covenant 'they' want to make life miserable. Presently two of my brothers are mentally not sound, the first son does not even bother to come see her mum, he only calls on phone to find out how she is fairing, the last son has not made move to call or come see her mum, the whole load is just on me.
I would have find joy taking care of her as the only daughter, but i am not very happy doing it, because i have been getting some other information that could possibly be responsible for our predicament. I was told that there was a time she visited one of my aunts and they went for prayer somewhere, my mum was told that two of her sons would soon have mental problem as a result of what she did, that was about 5 years ago, she never mentioned it to any of us. They told her there was a tree she planted in our village that she should cut it down, before she does that she should call some deliverance ministers to pray on it. She actually cut the tree not from the tree but the base and she did not call anyone to pray against what she did, two weeks after cutting the tree, she had a stroke.
I was given a message recently that it's as a resulting of keeping my mother in my home that is the reason why things tend to be difficult for us financially, that the "queen of the coast" is fighting against allowing her to stay with me. Although before now people have been telling us that there is a bad spirit in my house, i have been fasting and praying, my husband have lost his job, we are feeding with the little salary i am earning.
The question now is should I take my mum to the village?, since my grandma said i should bring her, my fear is who will take care of her while she is there, none of my siblings want to go with her.
Please my good people i need your candid advise.


I agree with every sane comment on this thread.

You have to forgive your Mum. A lot of them, needing help, followed someone somewhere maybe because of cheating husband or drunk husband or husband not coming home, or they need a husband or because they were not getting pregnant or any reason...unbeknown to them that the devil does not give free lunch and that they would have to repay that favour with their blood and sweat in the near future...


What has happened has happened and God is using you as a gap to reconcile your family to Him and rescue all of you...You are not alone and be rest assured though that the battle is the Lord's so just equip yourself with the armour of God in Ephesians 6 and stand. God knows about this so you are etched in the palms of His hands.

Here's a couple of Bible verses to get you through;

Deutoronomy 18:10-11 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

Isaiah 49:15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 9:18am On Aug 04
FOLYKAZE: GooseBaba and my big brother Macof, can you pls ignore this lady for the sake of sanity. She is ignorant about Africa spirituality and knowns close to nothing of the Yoruba conceptual aspect of it.

Lets learn to ignore those that cant argue objectively except resorting to Insult. Being A yoruba, we aint taught to insult others, that is why Omo Iya meji njeun ninu akoto ototo. Given the gal attention she yarn for would lead to derail of this thread. This thread is opened for learning. Atheists have agreed they are Aborisha, Some christians have too though partially while Ube who tried to disagree got trapped even in the christiandom he ran to. Muslims are the expected ones expected here to give their own view. . . . .not some brainwashed gal.

I have tried personally to extend my honour to her Dad and families. Let her shout evil this and that, lets just ignore her. . . . .



Aitetemuole, alagbari oshi, who started the cursefest undecided Hollering like a hit dog when your bingo self realised you had bitten more than you could chew. Best you stick your tails between your legs and run along.
Arrant nonsense, all y'all pagans know is to troll Christians threads insulting Jesus as Jewish blah, blah, blah, and now you are spitting your dummy out of your mouth that your backward religion and its self-serving lies are being exposed, tschewwww.




@Goosebaba

By the way, your master Folykaze is tugging at your leash to stop barking, so better get down on all fours and roll over cool
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 9:12am On Aug 04
GooseBaba:

Nothing dey happen... We already know that you're Babanla oloriburuku....

Right back at you cool

GooseBaba:
Then it's settled that motherfuvker died figuratively.. You bloody African female gentile in denial...

Duh it was used in "only that ONE" context, Sule Bada from Igbira.
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 12:28am On Aug 04
GooseBaba:

Smh...since you want to correlate spirituality with government.. When was the last time a traditionalist ran the Nigerian government..? when was the last time any past and present government officials swore an oath before the Gods of his/her ancestors..? NEVER..?! But you want to blame my personal spiritual leaning for three state of affairs in Nigeria.

What has your corpse worshiping done for Nigeria..? Is the mountain god or dead jew part of your ancestral history.? You proclaim a mere mortal as your lord and savior because he was sacrificed for your sins... Tufiakwa..! You scream blood of jesus left right and center and accuse others of human sacrifice.. Smh. Are you an hypocrite or are you deluded..?

No one is asking you to revert to your ancestral beliefs. All we are asking of ignorant Africans is to stop spewing garbage on what they know nothing about.

Carry your self loathing enter bush..... Bla Bla Bla rubbish...

You can't even differentiate spirituality from humanity.

They are related in the sense that once the last trace of your primitive religion is wiped out, so with Christ as the cornerstone of Nigeria, its onwards and upwards from then on.

Duh, blood of Jesus is used figuratively, we are not knife-wielding bunch of savages like your blood thirsty God.

In Christ Jesus, there is no jew nor gentile nor male nor female. No you are the ones who need to walk round with an "am a mug" sigh stuck to your forehead.
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 12:12am On Aug 04
GooseBaba:
You reap what you sow.. If you did not offend the lady why would they ask you to apologize.. Either that or you are lying. I have never heard of such.. Or better yet, go ask your father what he did..?

Which God..?Which light.? Which truth..? Which way is a dead and rotten corpse leading you..?


How did I offend the blood sucking demon

Freaking pretender trying to paint his evil religion white. Better repent before nemesis catches up with you, psssfffft
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 12:09am On Aug 04
GooseBaba:

I'm a little bit confused on this "Aje" things...

Is Orisha Aje = witch

Or good market..?

Or is it by pronunciation or context...



FOLYKAZE:

Aje pronouce A-jel is witch

Aje pronounce A-jay is wealth


See them cheesy

Tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum
Suegbe and Shugamu
Sule-Bada and Zulu Gambari
Atole and Ajato cool
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 10:09pm On Aug 03
GooseBaba:

Chei.....you speak of retrogressive culture a culture you never experienced since you NEVER lived in Nigeria. Therefore, your whole output is founded on mere speculation and theory... Smh..

You're are nothing but an insignificant busybody... Just dey run mouth Abi type anyhow.. undecided


Yet more hokum and hot air from more confused lot. What has your spiritual leaning done for Nigeria?

What does your fetish bloodthirsty ifa do other than spill blood?

All we here is paganism is a rich cultural whaccumacallit, it is our forefathers thingymajug, endless waffle and twaddle and drivel ***rolls eyes***
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 10:02pm On Aug 03
macof:

More dumb talk by someone running her mouth since.

Paganism is simply the default way of life of a people. it's culture, traditions, language and spirituality all revolving around the people.

Now wat is wrong with being Yoruba and loving it to the fullest?? Jst because you have been sold into mental slavery you expect sensible Omoluabi to follow u??


Folykaze never said that, And frankly you don't deserve the time he has given u on this thread


Default huh, buncha blind dingbats, no wonder you can't question them but just dey do follow follow cheesy

I love my tribe, its culture and language but that is where it ends. With regards to its spiritual aspect and traditions, count me out. To me I used to think Ifa was an hobby for my Dad until my MIL pulled those stunts and I started hearing about etutu, blah, blah, blah and how I would go and beg and blah-de-blah. Like WTF!!!




I will pray God let you see the light and the truth that Jesus is the only way.
Business To Business / Re: Honegrity Business Services Nairaland Customer Care Thread by Busybody2(f): 9:46pm On Aug 03
Gboliwe: I have whatsapp but I rarely ever use it. No he doesn't have my number.

I thought with whatsapp messages get relayed asap so even if you get one message a month, you'd still get it.
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 9:44pm On Aug 03
macof:

wrong! God the creator(Olodumare) is everything and he can't use himself aimlessly and stupidly like the fictional abomination called Jehovah

The dark energy is pure energy, the strongest of all forms in the known universe...it's responsible for all matter. This is what Yoruba call oduduwa that you ignorantly called "effigy"

Stop bringing wat you watch in Christian propaganda movies here...you Christians are demented liars



God the Creator is the embodiment of love. He sacrificed His son Jesus Christ to redeem us. He loves us basking in His presence and loves when we spend time with Him, unlike the stuck-up snob you are worshipping for material gains.
Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 9:39pm On Aug 03
macof:

I knew it, you are a demented liar like Paul ur master. This is how you Christians come lying that you were into Aborisha or ur family produces the chief araba..that's if u even know wat araba is you prodigal daughter abusing her own family jst to score points for a dead jew

wats my business with where u live?? Point is you know nothing about Ifa and the Orisha stop ur lies

the bold is prove that you are an utter ignoramus and complete illiterate in Yoruba knowledge

I said wat title does ur family hold?? Where is ur quaters in Ile-ife. Not amount of ruling houses


I am not gonna stoop to wallow in the mud like you. My post that you quoted mentioned that I will furnish you with further information via pm if you desire, so what is it with the verbal diarrhoea............grrrrrrrrrrr, olodo rabata that can't read.

Like I said, I don't know and don't give a flying figs about ifa and orisa and all those backward nonentity you people are pandering to angry I only knew them from far and now I have seen the light, may Holy Ghost fire burn all of them to smithereens

Na by force to relate to your deaf and dumb as a box of rocks gods ni cool
Business To Business / Re: Honegrity Business Services Nairaland Customer Care Thread by Busybody2(f): 8:39pm On Aug 03
Gboliwe:

Sharing something? Who no like awuff? grin
I have landed.

@ topic, Good. Keep it up bro. May God increase you.

Your site needs me to be tutored or take a crash course to understand how to navigate. Maybe you should make it easy for internet novices like me.
I was just discussing with someone on nairaland about getting me a compac 110-1100c keyboad and battery. Do you have them? What are your prices? Also, I want a 500GB Portable external HDD, what is the price? (Buying this could be later, not as important as the keyboard and battery)


Me and blackberry finally parted ways. Does Honeric have your number/are you on whatsapp?
Business To Business / Re: Honegrity Business Services Nairaland Customer Care Thread by Busybody2(f): 8:34pm On Aug 03
honeric01:

Hehehe what am I sheraringing o.. lol who be Mr gboliwe? I think say na miss gboliwe o.


Oh, so you are not sharing anything shocked

Thank God i didn't bother to read your thread then tongue

Congrats jare, onwards and upwards kiss kiss kiss

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Religion / Re: We Are All Aborisha by Busybody2(f): 7:44pm On Aug 03
macof:

this post proves you are a liar no Title holding family in Yorubaland especially that of the next to the ooni would be so ignorant about Yoruba spirituality like u here.

I would catch ur lies now...wat title does ur family hold in ile-ife??


What is there to learn from such retrogressive culture, psssssfffft. Never lived in Nigeria, besides I would rather pull my own teeth than listen to those dull-as-dishwater tales about some effigy coming to earth with one cockerel and a handful of sand to do lord knows what

There are 4 ruling family in Ife...what else do you wanna know...i can pm you addresses, pictures, etc

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