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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 10:48am On Feb 28, 2016

1. Yes prophetic ministry is a feature in Christianity...
3, For me, I have told danki nobody has the final say, even the prophet who are the mouth piece of God dont have it. Only God has it...

God bless you Sir, your point above in bold explains it all - NOBODY HAS THE FINAL SAY EXCEPT GOD. Eyes have not seen, nor ears heard the thing...so no need for anyone to start getting worked up on this thread...Even when I bunched together the atheists in the section and called them out on this thread, none of them attacked me, they got the message, and started opening thought-provoking intelligent posts about what they have read, what they know, what they are reading, etc, to prove that they are not trolls but had stumbled on such materials that got them to question their faith...

God has not given us the spirit of fear but of sound mind, so those useless marine powers and even their master Satan are under our feet because Jesus Christ has totally redeemed us from them.

"Since" it is clearly paining your perfect holy self to the bonemarrow, feel free to go and confront God and tell Him that He made a mistake...

Thanks for the response. That was just to streamline the discussion that Prophetic Ministry messages via dreams, visions, etc, foretells "the future" without taking any cognizance of "the present" circumstances... I will find another thread to feedback to you.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:23am On Feb 27, 2016

Sister there is a big difference between spiritual and carnal issues. Tgere are section on nairaland like romance section, family sections where wen counsel is sought you can think outside the box to profer counsel but wen it comes to seeking spiritual counsel from christians, the Holy Bible is our only basis for counsel and thinking outside the Bible will lead to heretic counsel.
For your questions, it is very possible for the said lady to b delivered and get married to a genuine child of God thereafter. Deliverance is like every work of grace which include salvation healing miracle sanctification and so on. In every work of grace, there is a personally coming to the cross of Christ on d party involved. Just like danki can't get her saved by his will but by her will, so also she can't get delivered just because he is willing. He had been willing all tru d times dey were still together and d fact he is still willing doesn't change anything. He talked about how the lady even made him break his vow. He talked about how the lady has been manipulative both spiritually and physically and how she wouldn't hear anything that had ro do with Christ. He hasn't mentioned any willingness on her part apart from the fact dat he sees her doing stuffs in his dreams. D Bible gives a stern warning about unequal yoking.
Sis i want to sincerely ask you a question. Will you be willing to go into a joint partnership business with a fellow(even if d person is from ur family) if dat fellow is known to be of questionable integrity just because you want to win dat fellow for Christ? Marriage is even more important than dat business.
D counsel uv all given him is out of our sincere love for him but its one thing to seek counsel but another to follow the counsel but at the end let us justify our conscience by telling him the truth according to the Holy scriptures. Shalom

Still in the spirit of addressing all Deliverance Ministers like you and all Christians on Nairaland and in light of what you stated which I highlighted above in bold:

•Is Prophetic Ministry a feature in Christianity?
•Is the Prophetic Ministry in Christianity which involves foretelling "the future" via dreams, vision, revelation, etc such as revelations about people's future husband/wife - real?
•Bearing in mind that Danki's dream was mainly about future occurrences so his ex girl's "current" carnal position does not matter, what can someone like Danki do?
•What choice does someone like Danki have if he wishes to refuse such person?
•What implication is there if he refuses to be yoked with such person?

I will ignore the unnecessary personal jibe at me redirecting me to the family section because I am a Minister of God just like you and just as you claim all what you shared with Danki is in the Bible, SAME WAY all I shared with Danki too about not hating any of God's beloved creature is in the Bible if you look at my message from an unbiased angle Sir.

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 9:53am On Feb 27, 2016

•Can your Christian religion/Deliverance ministers deliver such powerful cases as Danki's ex?

•Can your Christian religion/Deliverance ministers deliver worse cases than girl X?

•After deliverance, does Christianity segregate these people as sub-humans or can this people go on to marry, have children, be normal again, be rehabilitated and allowed to be integrate into the society as Christians?

•What can one do if told it is the will of God to marry such changed person? (Danki's query and greatest nightmare and predicament)

The end.

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Religion / Re: A Supernatural Being Seeking To Marry A Girl by Busybody2(f): 9:28am On Feb 27, 2016
Politics / Re: EFCC Not Investigating Ooni Ogunwusi - Prince Adetokunbo Sijuwade by Busybody2(f): 9:20am On Feb 27, 2016
Who alluded the case to Dasukigate? Anyway, you are still not making sense!

I thought Sijuade are human beings, not documents, so there couldn't have been a forgery of late Ooni, or do you mean he cloned him?

And with the alleged "criminal activities and hundreds of people he collected money from and didn't deliver", it sounds like a hatchet job, it just can't be. Where were these people when he was traveling around the country to get a nod to be crowned? Not even one protest. No way he could have passed through to that highly contested position if he was the least liable.

You guys need to stop making baseless allegations.

Why the hostility. Keep wallowing in ignorance. Ignorance is afterall bliss.
Politics / Re: EFCC Not Investigating Ooni Ogunwusi - Prince Adetokunbo Sijuwade by Busybody2(f): 12:34am On Feb 27, 2016
We know it was a lie when the post couldn't get beyond "forgery"' or explain how they got the " N400m forgery" claim. There was no details of what transpired, anyone can get up and claimed he was duped.

The EFCC investigation is not because of dasukigate-ish stuff, this current case is about his forgery of the late Ooni Sijuade and his criminal activities when he used to be CEO of gthomes and whatever name they are now called and was involved in most cases of those lekki property scams of collecting money from hundreds of investors mostly in UK and US and failing to deliver their property.

There are many Court cases pending against him in Court, so the fact that the Sijuade's have collected bribe to bury this case still doesn't make him 100% free.

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:44pm On Feb 26, 2016

I rebuke every spirit of confusion and division from this thread in the mighty name of Jesus. Devil will never use anyone here and please dear sister don't allow him use you to cause confusion and division here. The fact that this thread is open and welcomed to all doesn't give anyone the legal right to post RUBBISH. I have been following your posts and you don't seem to know the reason for this thread. It is changing lives and will continue to change lives. Quoting a verse from the Bible doesn't spell your good intentions here.

Bro Charles, I think irresponsible posts have to be checked. We can't stand by and let people cause confusion and division here, this is a congregation and not just some forum to share 'anything' you feel like. If you've got nothing positive to share then please save your MB.

Please let's let Bro Danki be. We won't let his issues cause commotion here, no wonder there hasn't been any productive post for days now if not weeks. There are times where I spend my night reading through this thread and enjoy the testimonies and bible teachings from beloved brother. Please let's keep it up.

Enough is Enough!!

Mr know-it-all, we were told on page 1-7 of this thread that this thread is about the gift of the Spirit of "DISCERNMENT" from God! When some people came to "DISCERN" the girl is demonic and Danki should flee, did I attack anyone's opinion? Nope!

I saw Danki's post and was able to "DISCERN" his pure hatred for his ex/his worries about his never-ending dreams about her, I wrote about "two lines" telling him to brace himself incase those recurrent dreams means she will be his wife, I wrote over 20 lines telling him that even if she is not his God-ordained wife he should not hate her because God wants every soul saved so he might be getting those dreams to help her soul get saved, that Jesus came for sinners, etc!!! Lobatan!!!

I only discussed those two salient points with him so why the numerous evil lies and attacks from you people that I am forcing him on the girl who cheats on him and dumps him for being poor?? Why the childish immature petty comments that Danki is choosing my opinion over yours as if this is a competition Why the intolerance and arrogance and pull-her-down mentality Why can't both opinion and whatever other opinion anyone else might have be allowed to stand side-by-side ARE YOU SAYING THE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT IS ONLY ABOUT DISCERNING DEMONS?

Oga gan ni o!

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 4:49pm On Feb 26, 2016

I have to go back on my words. I said I was done with you, but let me say this only once.

DANKI, The spirit of God spoke expressly to you, but
You didn't come here because you needed counsel. You knew what you shd do. You only wanted the Brethren here to tell you what folk around you have been telling you. You want a confirmation that the girl is your God sent wife. And when Busybody came up, you tilted towards her. As a matter of fact, that shd not be my headache, it's yours. I prayed for you, but you have a responsibility to take your decisions. We are not going to remaining at the same spot talking about you. Your case is overflocked already.

Yes, we got carried away discussing your issue. Again am saying, You know what you shd do. Go ahead and do it. Right now whether you like it or not, Chelseafan's case is more pressing than yours.

Okay Danki, here it is, if you dont marry that girl, you won't fulfil destiny, because she was created Just for you. Don't even think of making the mistake of praying to God to even reveal to you what your assignment on earth is, Just spend all your time on that girl. Everyone who has told you to wait for her, is right. And all the Brethren here a wrong. She is the hand of God over your life. Are you happy now?
Now let's proceed.

Proverbs 6:16-17 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue...

I rest my case cool

Danki, please free them to allow the devil keep using them to "deliberately" misinterpret your intention/motive. Don't doubt your dreams are from God. It is well Bro.

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:19am On Feb 25, 2016

You of all persons should be able to tell my story. I don't respond to attention seeking noisemakers. The other Arrow has been mentioning my name upandan since, begging to be noticed, dude has no idea my noticeboard is filled up. Let them continue chasing shadow and leave the substance they are here for. Mcheeeeew

Ekele maka ileghara anya kiss kiss kiss

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 10:08am On Feb 25, 2016
@dazzle101 & Busybody2..

Okay.. it's alright.

I'm sure Danki already knows what to do. He has already been given good advice here. So it's left for him to decide what he wants for himself

There is no need to argue over this. Let's just put him in prayers.
I love you guys. Be cool.

God bless you.

God bless you for your wise counsel and may God continue to perfect the spirit of discernment in you in Jesus' name. The pure wisdom of God in you will not depart from you in Jesus' name.

I am not here to argue with anyone, they dropped their opinion, I dropped mine, so they should back off, stop jumping on my opinion because I did not jump on theirs!

Even Vooks had to step in earlier to emphatise with Danki because of those undermining his level of commitment to God, now they are still here adjudicating and falsely and dangerously concluding that Danki is still not relating well with God! Casting aspersions on him as if they know his routine with God.

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 9:12am On Feb 25, 2016

Aunty pls stop creating the wrong impression n sowing discord. Everyone and anyone is welcome here.... this thread has helped many and will still help more...

Yes we can see the "warm" welcome you just gave Ms Gboliwe!
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:52am On Feb 25, 2016

Please stop derailing this thread!!! It is a haven for some of us!!!

Hurry up and get in touch biko. To be very honest, I don't know what this thread is about. Haven't even read any post I wasn't mentioned in. I just saw you and jumped in. Lol.

My dear Gboliwe, please ignore the nasty *we-don't-want-you-here-welcome* from Dazzle101 above. You have not committed any crime by stating you just stumbled on this thread...so feel free to read through the thread in your own time and come and share as Vooks suggested. God bless you Sis.

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:45am On Feb 25, 2016

Busybody pls why are you trying so hard to convince this guy otherwise? The handwriting is clear on the wall! I have been following ur pet talk to him about not disobeying God and to make sure this lady is from God but how can God saddle us with someone who'd leave us little rest of mind..

A lot of the brethren that spoke before on this issue are now quiet cos it feels their advise isn't holding water and to think you have created that seed of doubt in Danki's mind.

@Danki if you're indecisive and still on the fence about this then you need to take time out and pray for discernment and clarity on these dreams and the messages inherent. As goodmuyis rightly said 'if it is good and godly then it's from God'

It is out of utter concern n love of God that everyone has given their opinion in fact if not for the way busybody keeps tryna convince you and the seemingly effect it's having on you I was just silently reading till it was really laid upon my heart to write..

Remember everyone cannot agree just for the sake of it... please seek the face of God on this and remember not all dreams are from God plus you had a strong connection to this lady for sometime and its only logical you keep having series of dreams about her that could still be manipulated to confuse n deceive you...

Please save yourself of this threshold and move on, there is no saying if really this woman was destined for you as you strongly believed!

Cc: bro Charles, oyeludef, goodmuyis, nnamdiosu, vooks, analice, great0, superior1 please don't be silent on this, I'm not happy seeing danki's mind is being wavered!!!

People keep advising Danki to run and start fellowshipping with God.Danki repeatedly keeps saying he ran months ago because this girl mocks him he is not rich enough/she doesn't love him/she dumps him when he is low on funds/she taunts him that he will be back to wife her

Danki keeps stating he does not want to boast but he is almost 100% holy that his ONLY concern is why God is still giving him dreams about this girl that he now hates

Keep ignorantly attacking me and calling others to come and attack me too for trying to think outside the box and not join the crowd by telling him to run and pray WHICH HE ALREADY KNOWS AND HAS BEEN DOING!!! And keep condemning me by lying that I am trying to change his mind to force him to marry her. Thank God you are not God cool

***Ignored henceforth***
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:52pm On Feb 24, 2016
Bless you sister Busybody.

I've heard what you said. Though VERY VERY hard, I will always try not to be selective of the instructions of God on this issue. Not because of hellfire but because I just love God.

I had a dream last night where my ex, the pastor, some brethren and I were in a Bible study. The pastor was preaching while my ex was listening and taking notes with all sincerity. But turning to the pastor, I didn't see any sincerity in him. So, I got angry and told them to continue deceiving her. They all started crying including the pastor pleading with me not to leave. But I left.

As I left the building, the pastor sneaked out through the back door to meet me. He was angry and started insulting me. He said because of me, the girl is paying too much attention to the word of God. That I should leave her alone. I told him I'm not holding her.

Before I knew it, the pastor started getting physical. He started throwing stuffs at me. Then he multiplied into 4 different women throwing stuffs at me. I started running and they were chasing me. In the process, I noticed that somebody was with me and defending all those things being thrown at me. Next thing, I flew far away from them into another big city.

In the past, my ex never notices me in my dream talkless of crying if I tell her I'm leaving.

•You mentioned in your post earlier that you left this lady last October 2015, meaning you have already cut the lady off since.

•You mentioned that you are currently serving God to the best of your ability and you love Him dearly.

your sole concern is why God is still sending you dreams about this girl 4 months after you broke up with her when you are no longer interested in her because of all the horrible stuffs she did to you. And your fear is heightened because you know God has been known to hook up Prophets with wives, so you need a way to dodge this without offending God...

Hmmm, if the sources of the dream was from the devil, you could pray to God to cancel them and stop them coming, BUT your dilemma is that these dreams are originating from our unquestionable Almighty God, hmmm...

God loves you too and He will make a way for you in Jesus' name!

Cc Great0

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:41pm On Feb 24, 2016

Gboliwe is a lady?

Well, she has a lot to share, just that she is shy

Lol, she is a fully fledged lady Sir.


Vooks thought I was coming to steal you away and rightly so. I won't talk to vooks or get water to make him wake from his fainting spell sef till he does the needful. *rolls eyes.
And for you, I miss you so much I wanna cry

Hehehe, abeg free gentleman Vooks Biko. How have you been? Missed you too. I will get in touch with you soon dear.

Hmmm, is Vooks right with his assertion that you have a story to share wink
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 6:35pm On Feb 24, 2016

Bro, someone is like advising you to still retain the lady in question.
But it seems your trying to accept such advice.


The dream you share involved the same pastor again with that lady and you. You tried to leave but they want you to retain to continue with them.....in those action.
The preach the man was given is not the word of God cos it was confirm by you in that revelation with this your two speeches '''no sincerity in him and also continue in deceiving her'''.
Na so i understand your plight.

May God forgive your soul for your wrong hasty generalisation.

Now let me break this down to Kindergarten level so you might understand better. Once upon a time, Brother Danki was in love with this lady, BUT now he passionately detests this lady and wants nothing to do with her again because she cheated on him and has behaved nastily to him and treated him shabbily on several occasion...

God has used Danki many times via the gift of dreams and has given him many recurrent dreams concerning this lady till date, as well as dreams concerning others, with 100% accuracy...He loves God a lot but is scared he would disobey God if told this lady is his God-ordained wife because he now hates her!


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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 9:05am On Feb 24, 2016

Sister, at the risk of sounding like I'm not stable or born again; my spirit tells me she's of God but being used by the devil. They got hold of her since when she was a kid. Imagine, being lied to, given some powers and threatened since the age of 9.

I'm the only person this girl listens to. If she's angry, herfamily will call me to talk to her. And on hearing my voice, that solves whatever problem it is. If she's angry, and she hears my voice, she begins to act like its Christmas day.

She always tell me because of the work God wants us to do on earth, the devil will always try to break us or make sure we don't get married. And that was the reason she didn't even bother to wait for me to propose before she got herself the engagement ring. A girl who has been so anxious about marrying me all of a sudden cheated on me just the time she even suggested we got married whether we have anything or not. Just the one time i opened my mouth to tell her to go and prepare for our marriage, the evil spirit made her fall in love with the old pastor. And even at that, she gets very angry and depressed anytime I reminded her of the incident. She has knelt down, cried heavily and pleaded that I should never remind her of that. And remember, she called me right from the man's bed to tell me to meet her up somewhere so she could tell me of the incident. She said she realized where she was the moment the man mounted her and she cried all through.

She said the pastor was supposed to help her. But either the demons used her to seduce the pastor or the pastor is an agent used to destroy our now cancelled marriage. My pastor friend said the pastor is an agent. A big one at that. My ex also told me that she discarned that the pastor saw her gifts and wanted to steal her glory in the name of saving her. But she doesnt know what attracted to him in the first place. The money and expensive gifts the pastor gave her on different occasions were all stolen or misplaced of which I witnessed. ( I didn't know it was his money until she slept with him and she confessed).

And so you should know, this pastor is a divorcée and a soulless liar. A pastor I confronted about formication and breaking our engagement and he told me I was blabbering and that I should sort myself out. I was really shocked that day.
Remember, I told you an angel visited her, held her hand firmly and told her never to cheat on me with the pastor. She ran to to me crying and hugged me tightly and told me never to leave if anything happens. She cried heavily that day. I guess she already saw that she may not be able to resist temptation to cheat. A week later, she slept with this pastor.
Before now, she has told me that she will betray me and I will despise her for months no matter how much she begs. But God will reveal to me when she truly becomes born again. That this incident will be the turning point in her life. The time she will hear that I'm getting married to someone else. It will be then she will make a pact with God. (She doesn't tell me negative things about her directly. She uses parables. And when she does, she doesn't remember doing so)

The first time she met this pastor, she told me the man will be the one to help her out. I was confused cos she has been saying that I will be the one that Jesus will use to save her. That without me, she would amount to nothing on earth here just like she has been a mess from childhood, achieving nothing until she met me.
Not that I was too carried away about saving somebody, a couple random prophet from childhood, my dreams and that gut feeling in me tells me. It has little or nothing to do of love but I feel responsible for this girl. But of course, I know I can't help her now until she's 100% ready for Christ.

I've tried making friends with one or two other ladies who seem to know Christ. Serious church workers. But what I saw in my dreams were terrible. Men lining up to have sex with her. I was like how can such a girl do that? I made a little enquiries and my findings were overwhelming. Very disgusting. Well, the point I'm trying to make is that whenever I have such dreams about these random girls, I just turn around and leave immediately. But for my ex, I usually hang around trying to stop her from walking the wrong way( not sex, the omly time i saw her have sex was the one with pastor) she never listens anyway. But I never leave. And its never because of love nor did I force myself to stay.

I've cried and pleaded with God to show me the end of those dreams just like how he shows me about other girls. But God has never done that even with over 40 dreams about this girl with the dream always cutting off at the point. Well, except with the one I dreamt about her 5 years before I met her.

And less I forget, I saw this pastor in my dream and asked him why he slept with my ex and he replied that it was a mistake, it happened only once and will never repeat itself again. Which reminds me of when my ex told me that when we seperate, that I will be surprised to hear at the end of the day that she never slept with anybody again.

With all these, I've come to realize that she will except Christ when she gets a shocking encounter like I had 4 years ago. And this shocking encounter may be when she hears of my intending marriage with another girl. A girl she has always told me will come into my life because of my impatience to hear the final word from God on my life partner. And when God final reveals to me my wife, I would not listen because I would want to punish her (my ex).

This my ex never takes it lightly whenever I sin (well, apart from sex) she always tell me that God is not happy especially when I sin. And when I ask why my own sin gets God angrier, she would simply say that I don't understand who I am to God, that if i understood, I won't be doing a lot of things. But when she's in another mood, she would not mind me doing those things... Lol.

Finally, I've made up my mind long time ago not to keep waiting for her to turn to Christ. I will keep seeking for God's will in my life like brethren here have advised.

And to be very honest with you, I would not have really understood God or be conscious of the spirit world if I didn't meet this girl.

Brother Danki, I hear all you are saying. This was why I raised those concerns earlier and reminded you "disobedience is worse than witchcraft" in God's eyes!

Unrequited love is not a new thing under the sun and I understand this lady has played with your emotion badly but you have to be guarded and minded that she is under bondage and not in control of her emotions and behaviour save for those few instances God has been using her to let you know He is still on the throne and the breath and soul of every living being is in His hands...

The Gospel of peace we bear is about loving God and loving our neighbours as ourselves, and this unwittingly entails us loving the unlovables and undesirables amongst us, without discrimination. This is why even the books of Romans reminds us to "feed our enemies when they are hungry"...

Marriage for most people just involves people meeting someone their heart desires and them coming together to make a home, but for some Elects of God, (Prophetic Ministry in this case) whom hath been predestined and chosen before the foundations of the earth, we are part of God's watchmen who have greater assignments on earth and have been fully equipped to be fearless and bold as a lion, being called upon to propagate the Gospel of Christ, worship, proclaim, pray, watch over the word of our Lord God, calls to repentance, admonish, cast out, encourage, mediate, direct, uproot, establish, decree, pull down, bear the infirmities of the weak, burden-bearers, encourage, intercede, counsel, teach, etc...hence reason God atimes have to step in so His mandate for our lives would not be derailed by the evil ones.

Apart from foretelling and confirming the word of God, part of Prophetic Ministry involves an appointment over nations and kingdoms to uproot, overthrow, plant etc...and you mentioned that this lady comes from a family of broken homes and broken dreams where there is a pattern of wilful destruction and you are the only person this lady listens to and you have been called on many times to talk sense into her!

Has it ever occurred to you that there is an evil kingdom in that family that God has handpicked you or the seed of your loin to expose and uproot and intercede for that family? Imagine the number of people suffering in that family!!! And from all you have been posting you have the hallmark of a confrontational Prophet, just like the Lord led Brother CharlyG1 to confirm to me too earlier on in this thread! I briefly touched on earlier how I have also always gotten some strange messages to pass onto people and atimes people in authority...even some nairalanders...

Generally speaking, life is not about us but about serving others even to the point of discomfort, so you also have to seek God's face to open your eyes and help you get rid of the "me, me, me or over-my-dead-body mentality of this generation". As a Christian, part of our calling is to lead souls to Christ without judgement and since God created us all, don't be shocked if your life partner is one of such undesirable miscreants whose soul is still very much valued by our Lord God! You mentioned Hosea so why can't it be you! You are an uncommon person Sir, always remember that.

I am not here to force your hands but stand by you and remind you of the need to carefully weigh this situation lest you miss the gifts God has in store for you due to you hardening your heart, which that last Prophet also confirmed...I was in similar situation to yours and was saying me-and-this-one-Olorunmaje-over-my-dead-body, but in the end, I got my answer when I randomly pinged someone about 3 years ago and - without going into details - asked her what happens if one refused to do the will of God, and her one-line response, even though short was - "hellfire straight"...

Just as God works out everything out for good, Satan is also always looking for how to make everything work out for bad, so please keep seeking God's face and stop confusing yourself with stuffs such as "because it was only my dream 4 years ago that revealed we got married, maybe she manipulated just that one dream out of the over 50 dreams I have had about her" and for all you know this your case might be one of the classical ones of God using what they meant for evil for you to work it out for good for you...

So please don't be selective here and close your mind to her side. God loves us all equally and is no respecter of anyone or their feelings...The battle is the Lord's and we are very small in the grand scheme of things. It all simply boils down to Satan emptily decreeing to make all souls follow him to hell and God standing in the gap for us to the extent of using His beloved Son Jesus Christ as a ransom to make sure we ALL make heaven because He loves us and desires the best for us...

Pastor Adeboye once shared a message where God told him to draw the picture of a man in the sand and when he finished, God told him to wipe it off which took him seconds to do...then God told him He can wipe him(Adeboye) off same way in the twinkling of an eye...SO BROTHER DANKI, IT IS INDEED TRUE THAT WE ARE ALL LIKE GRASSHOPPERS IN GOD'S SIGHT! Who is man that He is mindful of us, it is simply because God loves us, nothing more nothing less, so we have been called to love each other...It is well!
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:01am On Feb 24, 2016

Are you serious??. Whereever have you been girl ? Welcome.

Thanks dear Analice. I have been around doing my Father's business smiley


What's your problem?

Thanks gentleman Vooks, as always smiley


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Hello babe, sorry I know it's been a while. You and Vooks wan take laughter wound me cheesy You don craze finish I should have handed over my room keys at yabaleft when I got discharged cheesy Awwww shucks!!! If not that Vooks assumed/concluded that you are male (like 100% of the rest Nairalanders), me I was already dreaming and planning wedding venue, cake, etc for both of you grin
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 2:20am On Feb 23, 2016
Happy new year everyone, glad to see Bro Charles' thread is still up and running. May God continue to uphold us all in Jesus' name.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 2:13am On Feb 23, 2016

Thanks a lot for the polite counseling.

I've heed to your advice months ago. And the contributions and prayers from you and other brethren here will surely solidify it.

Unfortunately, some brethren feel that if one is not fully versed in the Bible like them means he's not born again.

Well, lately I've seen myself in the mold of King David and Suleiman Johnson. I will keep praying for God's purpose in my life like you advised.

Thank you all for your support and prayers.
May God keep strengthening you all!

Good evening Mr Danki

Your ex is a child of God blessed with many gifts of the Spirits from God, but the devil and his foot soldiers who cannot create anything have counterfeited the plan of God in her life, hence her numerous pleas/requests in your dreams to rescue her...She is a victim/she was a blind witch who was unwittingly initiated by her Mum/Grandma and have been given a high ranking within their evil realm...

The reason I am swinging the pendulum the other way is because of the many concerns you raised concerning numerous counsel/dreams that she is your God-ordained wife...According to 1 Samuel 15 disobedience is worse than witchcraft she is being accused of...and you don't want to run the risk of disobeying God's will for your life...

So having read where you wrote that you are fully assured you can discern your dreams are from God, please BEFORE YOU RUN FROM HER go and seek the face of the Most High God again to enquire if this lady is indeed your God-ordained wife...

Peradventure she is not your wife, the Bible enjoins us to pray for ALL and Jesus Christ ransomed himself for us ALL and died for us even yet when we were sinners and according to 1 Tim and 2 Peter, it is the desire of God that every soul be saved and come into repentance and into the knowledge of truth...

Moreover you have the calling of a Prophet on you meaning that God has imparted the annointing to counsel and probably rescue this lady...And as a son and Prophet of God, you have the grace to uproot, decree, enforce and overcome in Jesus' name

So stop shaking and brace yourself up, God has not given us the spirit of fear...It is well with you.

And yes God chooses life partners for "some" people, depending on their assignment on this earth.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 2:15pm On Dec 15, 2015
Thanks for your kind words imbued with patience, but for the umpteenth time we are here to learn, not argue and have been learning a lot from these varied teaching...

Perhaps it's because you guys have gone deeper in your walk with Christ that is making these nuggets of information we are lapping up boring and tedious to you. But please bear with us as you remember iron sharpeneth iron. Moreover 1 Peter 4:10 states that as each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God's varied grace. May your labour of love and sacrifice will not be in vain Sir.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 1:40pm On Dec 15, 2015

sorry for bullying you aunty rookie.

Proverbs 26:21 - As charcoal to hot embers and wood to fire, so is a quarrelsome man for kindling strife.

Thanks for your fake apology. We can see the love and character of God in you Mr Senior Christian cool I will leave you with Jesus' peace and this prayer Isaiah 50:4 May the Lord God give you the tongue of those who are taught, that you may know how to sustain with a word those who are weary cool
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 2:16am On Dec 15, 2015
## It is written : I am covered by the blood of Jesus, I am an overcomer## I will sing unto the Lord a joyful song I will praise His name for the Lord is good, I will sing onto the Lord a joyful song, I will praise His name everyday##

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 11:22pm On Dec 14, 2015

people should rather discuss expound, expatiate on the aims, mission of this thread based on the bible. you guys should stop twisting things with multitude of words.
look at the Noah argument, somebody is obviously wrong but no party is accepting nada. even if you are right you can't force the word on any one. is this how you guys evangelize?

Are the Bible verses being quoted to buttress their points - which rookie Christians like us are learning from - not in your own Bible? Like I said earlier I for one am not interested in the giant monsters side of the debate but it would be actually rude and selfish and self-centred of me to come out and tell people to shut up or tell them to only post the ones that would benefit me only, which is what some of you have been doing!!! What happened to the love? Evangelism should and can be conducted anywhere surely including on this thread as long as salvation is still free for all!!!

Not from a Christian background and stumbled into Christianity barely three years ago, so I recently discovered God has deposited a sizeable amount of these gifts being discussed on this thread in me, is it dreams/vision/revelation/is it the way I find it bemusing that people are always begging me not to talk and they tell me it is because God has done something to my mouth so everything I say comes to pass/I shared another dimension earlier on this same thread...In short I am a classic perfect example of that Bible verse that says "it's not by power nor by might but by the Spirit...".Infact if I say I know 15% of the Bible I would be lying, so why can't you people be tolerant enough to look the other way and free rookies like me to keep learning at the snail-speed we are learning. You keep insisting its argument and I keep telling you it's helping people like me develop in my walk with God, why are you people being so pedantic? Do you guys hold the monopoly on the most effective way of learning the word of God? Hian!!!

Late last year or so I got a call from home that osun is fed up of me, the following day I got another call from someone else that osun is angry with me, and sacrifices needs to be done for me...I blurted out whaaaattt/who is osun/where do I know he/she/it from/how can someone I don't know and have never seen be angry with me/arrant nonsense/I am not interested/I am a child of the Most High God/who are all these shameless things are they blind to the fact that even their master satan in under my feet in the name of Jesus/etc...in the end the osun thing fled just as it is written in the Bible that if we resist the devil it will flee..."Again it was the word of God that has been imparted to me in my dream such as "I have not given you a spirit of fear but of love, sound mind...I have not redeemed you with incorruptible things but with the precious blood of Jesus Christ, etc that helped..."

My Heavenly Father has done so much for me, all that I am is because of Him, and since my life of late has revolved around topics being discussed on this thread, nothing should be a barrier and stop people like me from participating in this thread, contributing as and when necessary and asking questions as and when necessary, etc, in order to perfect my walk with God.

What happened to live and let live? Is Joshua 1:8 not in the Bible: This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. This thread is on a forum and not one platform whereby people have to queue and take turns to talk, so if anyone ain't interested in what someone is saying they are free to skip the post/change the channel. Haranguing people and stiffling them from posting and heavily close-guarding and close marking people from posting the word of God is synonymous to bullying incase y'all don't know!


Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 9:30pm On Dec 14, 2015
My Life today, is sustained by the Word of God, that I believe. But how could i have believed it, if I didn't know it?

I remember, along time ago, a marine pastor, whom I never insulted, approached me, because he saw me with Crutches and thought I was vulnerable.
He started telling me how he can just heal me and give me a ring which i can use to command whatever I needed. especially trapping men to get money from them. that was his main focus intact.
lol. The man went on and on abt what he can do. everything he said pointed towards powers from the marine, to buttress his point, he quoted, where Jesus asked his Apostle to go catch a fish and get money out of the fish's mouth to pay their taxes.
The man actually opened his mouth and said, Jesus Christ, The Sun of the Living God was subject to the Marine powers. At this point, I exploded. When I put some scriptures before him, he fled.
Tell me, If I didn't know any better, would that man not ve trapped me, by making me believe that Jesus' power came from the marine world? So many in spiritual churches believe so.

I tire my Sister! This is how segregation starts in Church: don't talk to this person, don't talk about that topic, don't eat this, don't wear those, don't marry that, hian!!!

When I burst onto nairaland last year with happiness doing thanksgiving that if not for my witch MIL I would not be a Christian/born again/know about God, people were scared sending mail, phonecalls, telling me to stop "talking" and go and delete my posts...similar reaction of peeps offline who were wetting themselves with fear because I called my MIL on the phone/sent her message to warn her to back off...I never used to believe such thing as witchcraft exist, and laugh and call people who believe in them illiterates, I was not a Church goer, I can't pray for more than one minute without dropping off to sleep...after a year I believed because of series of dreams I got as well as the woman herself calling me several times to confess...when they attacked me in my dream I was uncharacteristically brutal and they kept falling down in the name of Jesus...there was a time I got angry said my usual one minute prayer invoking Jehovah's flaming sword to pursue the person nightly and I heard weeks later that the same person has been waking up in the night yelling and howling that they have taken the person to numerous places with no cure...I quickly ran to God in tears to release the person, that AFTERALL He wants all soul saved, that the Bible says there is no sin He God cannot forgive, that the person should be given a chance for repentance...the person got delivered instantly...

Up to this time, my church attendance was still erratic and I was only about to pray 5 minutes maximum, [b]the only thing working for me was the WORD OF GOD that was getting deposited into my heart daily via dreams, this was the only weapon and succour I had, because Bible sef I no dey read, yet demons were fleeing and carrying their slippers on their head and running because of the grace of God in my life...

And some people are now getting uppity and uptight because of those sharing the word of God on this thread! May God have mercy on us and forgive us all in Jesus' name.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:27pm On Dec 14, 2015

Why are you lying? . . at least you know the posts are there for all to read. I never said what you quoted me to have said. If the Holy Spirit convicts you or sheds light on something why get angry when you are corrected?

For example, Longsuffering is just old king James English for Patience. .. Not what you are thinking.

I know about endurance Which is a Christian virtue that every christian must have. But we will not lower the standard of God's Word to suit your sensory interpretation.

And by the way, Gal 5:22 isn't referring to the fruit of the Holy Spirit but the fruit of the spirit (recreated or born again human spirit). The Holy Spirit does not bear fruits. We are the ones expected to bear fruits. Jesus said, " I am the vine, you are the branches" John 15:5. The fruits are seen on the branches.

You don't have to thank me, but at least don't come here and abuse me for telling you the truth.

I and I am sure a few others deliberately overlooked your first two points calling people silly and making it look like everyone on this thread is deluded and thinks having these Spiritual gifts means the person has a 5-fold calling into ministry! Whereas if you had taken to read more than the five pages you said you read you would have seen everything you said was already covered.

But are you now denying you didn't write the 3rd point up there deriding and mocking people who cannot "deliver" themselves from bondage, sickness, demonic oppression, affliction, etc


I'm not asking anyone to sweep anything under the carpet...
go through my comments again

I perfectly understand what I read Sir! No offensive punches or jabs are being thrown so people should be free to continue to debate/discuss/expound/expatiate on the HOLY BOOK aka the Bible in peace, that's not too much to ask! Thanks.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:02pm On Dec 14, 2015
Let me first commend CharlyG1 and other posters here for this inspiring thread. Thank you for your love, patience and commitment towards helping God's people with this thread. I had ignored this thread since it was started because I thought it's the usual demon demon childish excitement of baby Christians. But I found that it isn't having read through about 5 pages and have seen your commitment to the Word of faith.

I will share my own experiences by God's grace but before that, please let me attempt to correct some misunderstanding here using God's Word:

EPH 6:12- For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

This subject has been misunderstood by many Christians due to inaccurate understanding of the Word. It is important that we establish here that the christian is not in a fight to defeat the devil or demons for they have already been defeated. They were defeated and publicly disgraced by Jesus and every demon of hell knows that. So to begin to deal with this subject, it must be from the standpoint of us as victors over Satan and his cohorts.


2Cor 10:4-5 - " For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"

That's it!
-Pulling down strongholds: these are contrary mindsets, theories and philosophies.
-Casting down imaginations, every high thing...
- Subduing every thought, wrong emotions etc. that they may conform to Christ (The Word).
Of course many of these thoughts, ideas, philosophy's and mindsets originate from Satan.

THIS IS TRUE SPIRITUAL WARFARE. This is where the battle is toughest!

With one word you can cast out a devil that comes into your house or room. All you need is to be conscious of your position and authority in Christ. I cast out devils a lot so I can tell you. Sometimes i may not even call the name Jesus. . . GET OUT!! .. and they flee.

What many Christians including Hollywood and Nollywood film makers are excited about is just like using bazooka or rocket launcher to kill fly. This is what these demons want... that we make them appear more powerful than they really are.

I remember Pastor Chris told a story years ago of how a demon appeared in his room. He began to say, "in the. . ." and the demon took off! . . . didn't wait for him to finish the sentence.

In spiritual warfare as you'd find in Eph 6:12, you'd need to put on the whole armour using the Word and praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit.

Spiritual warfare, involves watching and insisting on THE WORD dominating YOUR MIND and THOUGHTS instead of THE WORLD or THE FLESH.

I have been involved in missions work at Christ Embassy so I know what it is to take a territory out of the hands of demonic principalities and introduce the light of God, insisting that the Word of God takes root in the hearts and minds of men, and righteousness dominates the land and even the atmosphere. It is not a day's job... This is warfare!

As for those spirits that some Christians are scared of, see what the Bible says about Jesus' victory over Satan in hell for our sake:

Col 2:15-"And having spoiled principalities and powers, He made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

Col 2:15- " [God] disarmed the principalities and powers that were ranged against us and made a bold display and public example of them, in triumphing over them in Him and in it [the cross]."

So you see ... It was a public disgrace. And when you stand in the name of Jesus, it is Him (not you) demons see and flee.

Ehen. . . for those of you who are engaging evil spirits and you are still asking stupid questions: whether every christian should speak in tongues?... Okay, you will soon know.

I will not delve much into this as there is no reason to, except of course the posters who mention the term can show me where such was mentioned in the bible.

All Christians are supposed to cast out devils. I have not read of a special ministry for such in the bible. SEE: EPH 4:11

Don't get me wrong, I believed all the testimonies of revelation and discernment gifts I read here (I will share a few of mine too) and i am not trying to be critical here, but I insist, Deliverance Ministry no dey Bible.

Many young ministers have left on their own to start "deliverance ministries" because they thought they had a gift. Stay in the church where God has planted you; humble yourself and be a blessing there. You are not called into the 5-fold ministry (SEE: Eph4:11) simply because you have a gift.

Do not seek to climb the pulpit or struggle microphone with the pastor. If you are given work to do in the house of God, do it with all humility and joyfulness. If you are asked to clean the seats or toilet do it faithfully and watch God promote you Himself.

Also, the Spirit will have me warn here that God is against those who "peep" (as magicians or wizards do).

Isaiah 8:19 19 - "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that PEEP, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?"

God reveals things to His children. So don't force yourself.


Let's not even go there. . .
Deliverance from who? Receive Christ and His eternal life, study the Word and you will find that there is no rope tying you from anywhere.

Don't forget, I said I cast out devils.

FINALLY, let me once again thank the Op for this inspiring thread, i have been richly blessed, and I pray in Jesus' name that the testimonies will continually abound even as Jesus is glorified.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 7:55pm On Dec 14, 2015
Noah was chosen to carry on and re-
start humanity after the flood
because he was a believer in God .
Additionally he was “perfect in his
generations” which meant that his
genetic bloodline and ancestry was
100 % human . Noah had not been a
part of the Nephilim hybridization that
was plaguing humanity. The Hebrew
word for “ perfect ” in that verse is
tamiym , which means “ complete,
whole ” with reference to health and
physical condition . This is the same
word used to describe the condition
of animal sacrifices to the Lord in Leviticus 22:21.

This is an "homonym" case in English Language whereby a word has same spelling but different meaning.

But in this instance Genesis 7:1 further states that: And The Lord said to Noah, come thou and all thy house into the ark: FOR THEE HAVE I SEEN RIGHTEOUS BEFORE ME IN THIS GENERATION.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 7:16pm On Dec 14, 2015
I understand ma, I just want to calm vexed nerves in thread about what's most important in all the debate

I understand too Sir and was also trying to lighten your heightened mood. God desires for us all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of truth, so as long as there is no fight, there is nothing wrong in fellowshipping with our fellow brethrens in Christ and learning from them and rubbing minds with them.

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

if two of you have different interpretation to the same scriptural reference, then either one or both of you happens to be wrong.

THIS!!! And this is the more reason it shouldn't be swept under the carpet. There is nothing wrong in sharing knowledge.

We serve one God yet like I raised earlier some of us Christians tithe whilst others don't believe in it, some Christian sects condemn women who wears trousers and earrings and braid their hair whilst some defend them that it's whats inside that counts, some believe in the trinity others don't, some believe in the once saved forever saved doctrine, a poster called donnie even came on earlier claiming anyone sick/suffering does not know God or something like that whereas the Bible states that longsuffering is one of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, and that we are to rejoice in tribulation, etcetera...

Fact of the matter is as long as issues like this continues to be swept under the carpet, it will always crop up in unusual places, so I see nothing wrong whereby this gathering of God's children to proclaim about the awesome wonder-working power of God cannot also be used as a platform to help each other in our quest to know God more, AFTERALL IT IS ONLY THIS SAME WORD OF GOD THAT IS THE ONLY WEAPON AND AUTHORITY WE HAVE TO DEFEAT SATAN AND HIS SLAVES/DEMONS!
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 6:36pm On Dec 14, 2015
Pls look into Hebrew Transliteration of Genesis 6:9 and Leviticus 22:21 and check the Hebrew word used for perfect in both bible quotes. Thanks.

I have read it again Sir, even the whole a Genesis Chapter 6. Again God was about to wipe away all flesh and then chapter 6:8 states that BUT Noah found grace BECAUSE he was an upright man who walked with God!

Leviticus 22:21 is a totally different verse warning people of Israel not to outsmart God by using defiled, diseased, unhealthy animals in sacred offering to Him, so this not related to Noah's story at all!

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 5:55pm On Dec 14, 2015
whether you have knowledge of everything including the Bible or you gifted with all revelations and miracle power from God but do not have charity.. you are like a noisy drum in sight of God.. please brethren, I beseech you in Christ Name to be tolerant and understand to the unity of body of Christ as far as it doesn't lead to iniquity --- 1 Corinthians 13

Proverbs 2:1-22 ESV

My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God...

See Sir Ccollins, finding the knowledge of God is good, too grin grin grin

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 5:12pm On Dec 14, 2015
very good contribution.. now he that has wisdom should read my last post and also 1 Corinthians 13.. it has said it all

I am here to grow more in the knowledge of Christ Sir, so I pray God keep us all as one and remember the greatest commandment in the Bible as you have been saying which is to love God and love our neighbours as ourselves!

As one body in Christ I always wonder why there is always two sides to most topics in the Bible such as "to tithe or not to tithe/trinity /rapture/once saved always saved doctrine/ wear trouser - not allowed/braiding and fixing hair leads to hell - no it doesn't/etc...I pray God in His infinite mercies will grant us all divine favour so that we will all make eternal life in Jesus' name.
Cc CharlyG1

When the Bible says that Noah was“ perfect in his generations ” the Hebrew word used there for the
word “ perfect ” is tamiym, which
means “ without blemish” or
“ healthy. ”
The reason that is so important is
because that is the exact same
word used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished, sacrificial lamb.
So you wrong to have deduced that the word "Perfect" used here is connected to character. Noah was not perfect morally , but that his physical make up - DNA –had not been contaminated with Nephillim

Thanks for the explanation of the various meaning of the word.

[b]But[/b]prior to God touching on the subject Noah, God was expressing His displeasure and agonising over His heartbreak about the evil "character" of men in those era and He was contemplating on wiping off everyone off the face of the earth before He remembered Noah was "perfect aka morally upright...in the same chapter...hence reason I don't believe God was initially musing about men's evil deed/character then veered off "suddenly" to Noah's genes!

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