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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:38am On Feb 06, 2022 |
KingTom: Which other season did he score more than 24 goals? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:05am On Feb 06, 2022 |
BikeMan: Example If you remove Lawandowski from Bayern Munich and put even Chicharito as their main striker, he will consistently score more goals because he becomes the ONLY focal point. Today, if you remove all out forwards and play Martial as the main man, he would consistently score higher than his previous season. But it wouldn't mean that anyone was hindering him. He could not match them when all are played 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:02am On Feb 06, 2022 |
KingTom: That is not how 'without stats' works. It means Barca had better players than Madrid. Without Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Sanchez, Fabregas, etc could easily win. Ronaldo efforts made Madrid to even get close to being at par with that Barca team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:20am On Feb 06, 2022 |
KingTom: You didn't want to understand. They claim that Ronaldo was hindering him. But when I checked, he scored his highest goal in a season while playing with Ronaldo, even with fewer appearances than now. Ronaldo is gone and Benzema being the main man cannot score 24 goals again with more matches. Can we also say that Ronaldo was hindering Rooney at Man United? When Ronaldo was gone, Rooney hit 26+ EPL goals twice. But that was because he became the main man. When there are many big players at once, the goals are shared, and the best player/scorer have more /most of the goals. Lastly, people should not compare Benzema to Suarez. Suarez is far better. He is capable of out scoring any team mate. Messi was not there (did not help Suarez) when he won the golden boot in the EPL. He was not there when he help Athletic Madrid to win Laliga last season. 5 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:04am On Feb 06, 2022 |
BikeMan: This is because he is now playing all alone there as a poacher. He should be doing minimum of 30, but the guy is lazy. If you remove him today and play Ronaldo there, you will be hearing 35 to 40 goals. If you play alone in a big team it is easy to score above 20 goals. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:01am On Feb 06, 2022 |
KingTom: It doesn't. Benzema scored his highest EPL goals (24) while with Ronaldo. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:49am On Feb 05, 2022 |
hensben: May be he is their major set-piece taker. When it is like that, he gets lots of Assists. But this is PSG with great scorer like Mbappe who can take a half chance, run 40 meter and convert it to a goal |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:59am On Feb 05, 2022 |
hensben: Ronaldo has 3 Assists playing in a stronger legaue and even with less efficient, less productive, less prolific team mates 7 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56am On Feb 05, 2022 |
hensben: Ronaldo is a better goal scorer and crucial match winner than Messi. Any great goal scorer can easily surpass Messi. Even at Barca, Messi usually lead the champions league scorer table at group stage, but when into knockout, he dissappears and Ronaldo keep pumping in goals like pure water against big teams. So when it requires some individual scoring efforts, Ronaldo, Lewandowski, Suarez, Mabappe can out shine Messi. But as a team goal, Messi will always get it. So it is possible for the above mentioned to outshine Messi, but not Ronaldo when played in same team. 6 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:43am On Feb 05, 2022 |
Messi moved to another league from his comfort zone, and now he is exposed. His poor performance should not be used as an excuse as helping Neymar and Mbappe grow. He simply is unable to play better than them. When you cannot beat them, you join them. Also, Cavani outshone our young guys last season. Why was Cavani not blamed for not helping them? Who is poor is poor. Before Ronaldo, we saw inconsistency with these boys. 8 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35am On Feb 05, 2022 |
Benzema scored more goals (2015/2016) when he Ronaldo with Ronaldo. Now he is having more game time and I don't see how he is scoring more without Ronaldo
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:33am On Feb 05, 2022 |
OhBritannia: Cavani still make them shadow last season. And if you are using Messi's poor performance in France as a justification for 'helping team mates', no no no. When Messi was always the main man at Barca. Benzema highest league goals was when he played with Ronaldo Now he plays more matches with the departure of other forwards, but he is still unable to score higher than when he played with Ronaldo 6 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:27am On Feb 05, 2022 |
donstan18: Martial? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:26am On Feb 05, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:25am On Feb 05, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: He went to Barca at his peak, and only once has he been able to surpass his Liverpool's final season goal's number. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:09am On Feb 05, 2022 |
OhBritannia: Nani had all the opportunity to go to places. Nani could not compete with Valencia. He shone whenever Valencia was injured, butbas soon as Val returns, he runs out of confidence. It was until SAF played him on the left or Val as a right back he became good again. Suarez and Neymar were good before without Messi. Suarez performance at Liverpool took a suppression at Barca just so he must never outscore Messi 2 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:03am On Feb 05, 2022 |
It looks like goal poachers don't favour Manchester United. They take the shine from people's hardwork and ruin the team. 1. Van Nistelrooy (United had little success) 2. Van Persie (United won the league, although the team needed a little push after losing on goals difference the previous season). After 2012/2013, players like Rooney decided he too would be less mobile on the pitch. The handwork the individual players were used to was none existence and Rooney, Anderson accumulated fat. 3. Ronaldo (He was taking the shine and will still), but the strikers and wingers around him are demotivated. Their style if play being altered. 2 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:52am On Feb 05, 2022 |
OhBritannia: I think this is just anti-Ronaldo's talk. At one point in their peak of rivalry in Laliga, I saw Madrid and Barca performance while without Ronaldo or Messi due to injuries or suspension. Records show that Madrid suffered heavily without Ronaldo while Barca were almost as productive without Messi |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:47am On Feb 05, 2022 |
The first time I will comment on Ronaldo's argument. Although he had a bad day yesterday, in my opinion he is not the problem. We all know that he is not a good build up team member. Yesterday whenever the ball find him during build up, he spoilt the process. Most time he didn't have an idea of what to do. Overall, no Man United young star, no one anywhere in the world currently can achieve 50% of what he has done. Ronaldo deserves to be spoken to with respect. What about matches he was not around and we still lost? Yes, some young players might have been demotivated that the ovation they enjoyed last season and previously is taken away by Ronaldo as everyone is expected to play to his strength. They probably became more demotivated based on those stupid talk by some of his former teammates in Juventus. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:37am On Feb 05, 2022 |
Botfuss: Bruno's case happens often to players when their brain is telling them are offside. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:07am On Feb 05, 2022 |
hensben: Yesterday's match looked like nemesis catching up with the team for ostracizing one of their own. The players who were involved in it had a very bad day. Ronaldo, Rashford and Pogba. The ones who remain neutral son far and never quit following him had good games. Maguire and Bruno. Sometimes your colleague at work are your first family. Which family members so easily abandon one of their own when they have not heard his own part or wait for issues to be established. If DDG kept, he would have been the one to cause an error leading to a goal in the 90+4 minute. Nemesis go con complete. Make una no attack me o. Na joke I dey o. But some joke na message o |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:36pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
All the substituted in players came to do what? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:22pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Many of their decisions are annoying. Why did McTominay cut back there? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:16pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
See shot of a professional footballer. From the edge of the box. Fred |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:14pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
ChristineC: It's your response that warranted the comparison. We were talking about this game against 7th placed team in the championship, and your wrote like we are measuring progress so far. I don't know the last time we played a full strength team at this stage of FA cup. Yet fluidity was lacking. Chances we created were mostly from long balls, not neccesarily from great team work |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:59pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
ChristineC: How did Tuchel play? Even Ole played better from his first game in charge. But this is not the point. The point is the play is normal. We are not playing Arsenal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Ellexy: If Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, City play this kind of football you will still call it beautiful? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:38pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Gann: Is this how City and Liverpool play? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Our forward players are selfish. Ronaldo and Rashford |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:35pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
If we called our performance in the first half and up to when we conceded a great one, it shows how much we have been awful. We are only dominating play and keeping possession, even as we struggle at it. What you will call beautiful football or great performance is our first game this season. Then some of our games last season. There was one against Chelsea when Pogba did a great job |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:29pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Maguire is in this game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:31pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
gameboy727: How is this a beautiful football ....? |
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