Christians who believe in JesusChrist as their Savior believe so based on their own conventional thoughts, thinking that it was by being crucified that Jesus Christ blotted out their sins all at once. Many of them believe in what they have believed without ever thinking, not even for once, that their faith might be erroneous. Yet it is not just with the blood of the Cross that Jesus Christ has blotted out our sins, but it is with the water, the blood, and the Spirit that He has blotted them out (1 John 5:4-8 ).

Likewise, today’s Christians are convinced that they can be washed from the sins they commit everyday through their own prayers of repentance. However, no matter how they try to wash away their sins through their prayers of repentance, they discover for themselves that their sins do not actually disappear. Yet they are still convinced of themselves and continue to believe foolishly, thinking, “Someday, all my sins will be cleansed away! The day will come when all my sins are washed away through my prayers of repentance!”

Nonetheless, my fellow Christians, you should reflect on the doctrine of repentance that you believe in and examine it very carefully. Would your sins really be cleansed away just because you give prayers of repentance? If you are convinced of this, then does this mean that you have no sin in your hearts? Is it really true that your sins are washed away and blotted out through your own prayers of repentance? If not, then, isn’t your conviction derived just from your own thoughts? You must know that it is through the water, blood and Spirit of Jesus that all your sins are blotted away.

Those who adhere to the Doctrine of Justification think that they are saved just because they believe in Jesus somehow, even when they have sin. However, God does not say to the sinful that they have become His people. All this time until now, you had hypnotized yourselves with your own thoughts, believing on your own, “Since Jesus has definitely saved me by being crucified and shedding His blood to death, I might have no sin now! I’m so sure of this!” Such faith is one that is derived from self-hypnosis, and is of a false
conviction.

If you yourselves are falsely convinced like this, does it then mean that you have no sin before God? Isn’t it possibly that your thoughts to this day have perhaps been all mistaken? Could you really wash away all your sins from your hearts through your own prayers of repentance? When you believed only in Jesus Christ’ blood on the Cross, did your sins really disappear? Are your consciences convinced of this above and beyond all doubt?

Now I tell you here that for all Christians, it is only by believing in the gospel Word of the water and the Spirit that they can be truly convinced of the remission of their sins. Through the prayers of repentance that today’s Christians believe in, it is simply impossible to have the true conviction of the washing away of sin. Why then are they sticking to such an erroneous doctrine? This is because they do not know the true salvation that has come through the gospel of the water and the Spirit. Christians must have, through the Word of God, the conviction that they have been washed wholly from their sins through the gospel of the water and the Spirit.
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Let us imagine here for a moment that Christians are standing in two lines, and that on one line stand those who believe in Jesus based on their own thoughts, and on the other line are those who believe in the Word of the water and the Spirit, which is our salvation. On which of these two lines should you stand? If you stand on the line of the religionists, you will lead your lives following only your own thoughts. It will then become impossible for you to meet Jesus Christ, who has come
by the gospel of the water and the Spirit. Why? Because such religionists are faithful to only their own thoughts and are devoted to only their own emotions.

As the Apostles warned, still many Christians desire to make a good showing in their flesh (Galatians 6:12). It is because they have no interest in the Truth about the gospel of the water and the Spirit, nor in how God has completely blotted out their sins, but they are only faithful to their own pious devotion. But no matter how people devote themselves in their own thoughts, they still remain far too insufficient to come and stand before the presence of God. This is why those religious Christians cannot properly meet Jesus the true Savior. When someone is devoted to only his own religious piety, he pays no attention to the Truth of salvation, the gospel Truth of the water and the Spirit, and instead ends up devoting himself to his own thoughts, emotions, and dedication.

Religious Christians Must Deny Their
Thoughts and Believe in God’s Word of Power

Our faith in the gospel Truth of the water and the Spirit is fundamentally different from man-made, ritualistic and doctrinal faith. Our true faith in the righteousness of God and the faith of the worldly religions are not the same. Placing our faith in the Word of God is to look toward what God has done for us, to follow it, and to believe in it with our hearts; in contrast, placing one’s faith in the religious doctrines of this world is to make an object of one’s devotion on his own and to trust in it according to his own thoughts. But such religious faith is not the faith that believes according to the Word of God.

To be faithful to the worldly religions is to be faithful to one’s own thoughts. Therefore, if anyone who had been faithful to the religions of the world wants to believe with his hearts in the gospel of the water and the Spirit, through which Jesus has saved us, then he must first deny his own thoughts. This is because God’s gospel of the water and the Spirit is different from the doctrines made of one’s own thoughts. Because of such people who follow and believe in the Jesus based on the false doctrines of their own making, countless people are dying spiritually.

God is teaching us that when we believe in the Lord as our Savior, we must do so by placing our faith in the gospel Word of the water and the Spirit, for this gospel Word of the water and the Spirit is the very Word of God. Here, we must make a clear choice between two; whether we would believe in Jesus as our Savior based on our own thoughts, or based on the gospel of the water and the Spirit that is made of the Word of God. God is clearly telling us that it is based on the gospel Word of the water and the Spirit that we must believe in Jesus.

Sometimes we come to encounter such people who really don’t know themselves. Socrates said, “Know yourself.” However, most of us do not know what is in our hearts: murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, etc. He has the venom of a serpent in his heart but speaks of goodness. It is because he doesn’t know that he was born a sinner. There are so many in this world who do not know how to look at themselves. They have been deceived by themselves and they live out their lives wrapped in their own deceptions. They throw themselves into hell. They are going to hell because of their own deceptions.

When someone does not realize that they are indeed just a mass of sin, they continue trying to hide themselves. The sin is in the hearts of all people and it does not go away by wiping the outside clean. When we spill a little sin, we wipe it with a dishcloth, when we spill sin again, we wipe it with a towel, a mop, and then a rug. We keep thinking that if we only just keep wiping it up just once more, it will be clean again. However, it simply spills again and again. How long do you think this will go on? It goes on until the day he dies. Man acts sinfully until he dies. This is why we have to believe in Jesus to be redeemed. And to be redeemed, we have to know ourselves.

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Faith in God cannot come about by emotions, devotion, or one’s own abilities. I have seen many Christians giving their ardent prayers of repentance in tears, confessing their sins out loud. Generally speaking, it has become a customary practice for Christians who have attended church for a long time to try to wash away their sins through their prayers of repentance given with many tears. Our era has been turned into a corrupted one, where Christians, seeing such outward displays, approve each other’s faith based on this.

Heresies are interested in the charismatic movement, mysticism, and materialism. And they are prone to pursue such erroneous tendencies tumultuously and desperately. But all their followers, while they may get transient comfort and satisfaction out of such beliefs, cannot but continue to live confused lives with empty hearts. This can be the evidence that such people have not been born again, nor received the Holy Spirit, further less believed in the Word of God. Believing in Jesus is to believe in the Word of God.

In particular, the charismatic movement, into which sinners are prone to fall, claim that speaking in tongues is the evidence that proves one’s receiving of the Holy Spirit, of becoming God’s child, and of salvation itself. They therefore speak in tongues everywhere. But most Christians who claim to speak in tongues actually speak in false tongues.

Satan works so deceptively in the charismatic movement that those who believe in supernatural visions and powers, and those who seek after signs, miracles, and visions apart from faith in the Word of God, cannot even come close to the faith of the centurion. Their faith is a pseudo faith that seeks only after what can be seen by the eye such as signs, miracles, and visions, and that is fundamentally different from the faith of the centurion as recorded in the Bible.

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There are countless religions in the world. And each religion has its own deities. The difference between these deities and the Christian God is that while the former are merely human constructions, the latter is the God who exists by Himself. To believe in the Christian God, one must abandon all these false gods of the man-made religions. Without this, all efforts are fruitless. The reason why we see before our eyes such a confusion of faith about God is because of the lack of knowledge in the Creator God and His name.

Why is it so hard for the true Christian faith in God to enter into all the nations of the world? It is because many of them cannot distinguish the difference between their gods and the Christian God; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This other reason of such difficulty is that Christianity has failed to keep and preach the truth of the remission of sin, the gospel of the water and the Spirit throughout its history.

Eternal life can come about only to those who are saved from their sins by believing in the true God of Christianity as their own God, regardless of who and where they are. We must therefore believe in the gospel of the water and the Spirit, and in the Triune God.

Matthew 16:26 says, “For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?”

Given this, the issue of the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting cannot but be much more important than any other issues of politics, economy, education, sports, relationships, diplomacy, military, or modernization. Why? Because these things are earthly issues of a lifetime that lasts no more than a hundred years, and they cease to be issues as soon as one departs from this world. Therefore, it is the resurrection and the everlasting life that are the greatest issue of our lives.

Have you truly been born again of water and Spirit? Do you hold the Lord as the most precious in your heart above everyone and everything else? Or do you mistakenly cherish the temporal things of this world, holding them more dear to you above the Lord?

Let me tell you what a sin is before God. It is failing to live by His will. It is not believing in His Word. God said that it is a sin to live as the Pharisees, who rejected the commandments of God and put more importance on their traditional teachings. And Jesus considered the Pharisees to be hypocrites. “Which God do you believe in? Do you really revere and respect Me? You boast about My name, but do you really honor Me?”

People only look at the outer appearances and disregard His Word. And it is a sin before Him. The most serious sin is to disregard His Word. Are you aware of this? That is the most serious sin of all sins.
Our weaknesses are only faults, mere transgressions. The mistakes we make and the wrongs we commit due to our imperfection are not fundamental sins, but faults. God distinguishes sins from faults. Those who disregard His Word are sinners, even if they are without faults. They are great sinners before God. That is why Jesus scolded the Pharisees.

Is there a single Word of God that is not right? The Pharisees laid aside the commandments of God. They held the tradition of men over His commandments. The words of their elders carried more weight than the Words of God. Those who lay aside His Word, and those who do not believe are sinners. Those who are unable to keep His Word are sinners also, but it is the ultimate sin to lay aside His Word. They are the ones who will end up in hell. Not to believe is to sin before Him.


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The European Union (EU) is now moving ever closer to full integration. European states now form a massive economic community using a single currency called Euro. When powerful countries integrate with each other like this, small countries are overwhelmed. When there is a clash concerning national interest, war is inevitable. That’s how nations rise against nations. The Lord taught us that when nations stand against nations, when war breaks out, and when natural disasters such as famines and earthquakes occur, then that is the beginning of sorrows.

When this happens, we all must remember clearly in our hearts that these events will happen in the end times. The Lord said that these events will unfold in the end times. There is nothing strange here in today’s Scripture passage. Everything will come to pass exactly as the Lord said. Simply put, there will be no peace in the end times. The Lord taught us that the world will turn into an unlivable place, filled with chaos, confusion, disorder, and madness.

The European Union (EU) is now moving ever closer to full integration. European states now form a massive economic community using a single currency called Euro. When powerful countries integrate with each other like this, small countries are overwhelmed. When there is a clash concerning national interest, war is inevitable. That’s how nations rise against nations. The Lord taught us that when nations stand against nations, when war breaks out, and when natural disasters such as famines and earthquakes occur, then that is the beginning of sorrows.

When this happens, we all must remember clearly in our hearts that these events will happen in the end times. The Lord said that these events will unfold in the end times. There is nothing strange here in today’s Scripture passage. Everything will come to pass exactly as the Lord said. Simply put, there will be no peace in the end times. The Lord taught us that the world will turn into an unlivable place, filled with chaos, confusion, disorder, and madness.

HUMANS ARE A BROOD OF EVILDOERS!

A human body commits sin from birth until the moment of its death. Not only does a human body like to commit sin, but it also likes to follow only its carnal desires. Isaiah 1:4 records that humans are “a brood of evildoers,” and Isaiah 59 records that there are all kinds of filthy and disgraceful things inside a human heart. Hence, a human is a mass of sin. Then, if we could deduce conclusively from God’s Word that “A human is a mass of sin,” then, we must receive this Word of God in our heart. And we must acknowledge before the presence of God that we are such sinners and then wait for the teaching of Jesus.

Humans are lewd. When a person looks at himself clearly, he can conclude that he is lewd and that lewdness is the person himself. A person who is honest with himself would accept that a human possesses the twelve kinds of sins God speaks of. Even so, there doesn’t seem to be many persons who acknowledge that he himself is lewd, that he is a mass of sin. Many people live a life like beasts in this world because they do not think they are lewd. Humans make the culture of lewdness themselves because humans are “a brood of evildoers.” One would be embarrassed if he was the only lewd person in the world doing lewd behaviors, but they have made such a lewd culture so that they are not embarrassed because everyone else is also lewd.

However, everyone’s heart feels embarrassed in one’s conscience about his behaviors of sin. It’s because God has given conscience to humans. The human conscience is the servant of God that He has sent as His deputy. Adam and Eve hid themselves between many trees after committing sin. Many trees imply a human society that is covered with lewd culture. However, they could not hide the evil in their heart. Even now, many who are a mass of sin go in the midst of many people and hide themselves behind the culture of evil sins and go on living like a prisoner waiting for execution.

However, when one seeks to be saved from his lifetime sins and be exempted from its due punishment, then Jesus is always there waiting to receive him through His gospel of water and Spirit.

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[quote author=Kobojunkie post=128990240] God's mercy DOES NOT cause humans to avoid punishment/judgment.

Yes it does. The punishment here isn't talking about physical punishment as you have narrated. Instead it's talking about the eternal punishment of hell, naturally meant for all mankind born as sinners. The wages/ punishment of sin is death, death here refers to the punishment of hell.

It is only by knowing and believing in His mercy revealed through His salvation works that humans can avoid punishment. Otherwise everyone is destined for hell naturally.

THE HEART OF EVERYONE IS NATURALLY EVIL!

When we really understand humans, we realize humans are all a mass of sin. Humans are the seeds of lewd sin that cannot but commit sin throughout the entire life. Therefore, humans commit sin filled with lewdness, pride, evil thoughts, hatred, murder, theft, and all kinds of evil sins.

Would you believe if I told you humans are beings who do such things? Do you believe that humans are beings that swindle and steal much? Would you believe if I told you that humans are beings that commit adultery? Would you believe if I told you that you were such people? All such people are humans. Do you believe in the Word of the original innate sin according to the Scriptures that says all humans are born with evil sins and commit a tremendous amount of evil sins?

Human flesh only commits sin throughout the entire life. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the body of a human is a factory producing sin. The human body lives on sin that God hates as a daily meal. The flesh of a human likes to commit sin; it enjoys committing adultery, the sin of lewdness, and going against God. And that is why it needs God's mercy to avoid its due punishment.

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NATION WILL RISE AGAINST NATION, AND KINGDOM AGAINST KINGDOM

What else did the Lord say would happen in the time of the Great Tribulation? He said, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.”

Recently Russia has seen a surge of extreme nationalism. It is calling for the expulsion of all nonRussians and demanding that foreigners, including the Jews, give up all their commercial and economic interests in Russia and return home. In the years to come, Jewish people all over the world will have to return to Israel. At the present time, Jews scattered throughout the world have a dominant commercial presence. But nations are now rising against nations. Nationalism is surging ahead, just as God said it would in the end times. Because of this, when we look at these events, we realize that everything is coming to pass exactly as the Lord had said.

With the end of World War II, many independent, nationalist states were formed. More recently, when the Soviet Union collapsed in the 1990s, a number of independent states were formed. The Soviet Union had been a federal state formed by sixteen republics, tightly controlled by the central government in Moscow. With its disintegration under President Gorbachev, each republic became an independent nation-state. These republics have now formed independent states. But there still are many ethnic groups engaged in civil war, and struggling for independence. Just like this, every nation is actively seeking to form its own social community.

The problem is that a struggle for independence often leads to ethnic conflicts. The prevalence of racial supremacy is often followed by ethnic cleansing to suppress and rout out other ethnic groups. Just as the Lord taught us that nations would rise against nations and invade each other, some of these events have already occurred throughout the world. Many countries all over the world saw a surge of nationalist movements with people gaining their independence. In the years to come, we will continue to see nations rising against nations. Weak countries like Korea will be swallowed up by the great powers, while the great powers will struggle against each other for supremacy. Since God said that this would happen, it will happen exactly as He said.

NATION WILL RISE AGAINST NATION, AND KINGDOM AGAINST KINGDOM

What else did the Lord say would happen in the time of the Great Tribulation? He said, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.”

Recently Russia has seen a surge of extreme nationalism. It is calling for the expulsion of all nonRussians and demanding that foreigners, including the Jews, give up all their commercial and economic interests in Russia and return home. In the years to come, Jewish people all over the world will have to return to Israel. At the present time, Jews scattered throughout the world have a dominant commercial presence. But nations are now rising against nations. Nationalism is surging ahead, just as God said it would in the end times. Because of this, when we look at these events, we realize that everything is coming to pass exactly as the Lord had said.

With the end of World War II, many independent, nationalist states were formed. More recently, when the Soviet Union collapsed in the 1990s, a number of independent states were formed. The Soviet Union had been a federal state formed by sixteen republics, tightly controlled by the central government in Moscow. With its disintegration under President Gorbachev, each republic became an independent nation-state. These republics have now formed independent states. But there still are many ethnic groups engaged in civil war, and struggling for independence. Just like this, every nation is actively seeking to form its own social community.

The problem is that a struggle for independence often leads to ethnic conflicts. The prevalence of racial supremacy is often followed by ethnic cleansing to suppress and rout out other ethnic groups. Just as the Lord taught us that nations would rise against nations and invade each other, some of these events have already occurred throughout the world. Many countries all over the world saw a surge of nationalist movements with people gaining their independence. In the years to come, we will continue to see nations rising against nations. Weak countries like Korea will be swallowed up by the great powers, while the great powers will struggle against each other for supremacy. Since God said that this would happen, it will happen exactly as He said.

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Let’s look at the Revelation 6:5-6. It says, “When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come and see.’ So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.””

It says that when the third seal is opened, the period of the black horse will arrive, and it will be the period of famine. What the period of famine means, as we have read in today’s Scripture passage, there will be famine and earthquake in various places and nations will rise against nations. After this will be the period of the pale horse, when the anti-Christ will appear and the killing of the Israelites will occur. Then we who have received the remission of the sin among the Gentiles will be martyred.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 also talks about this is this manner, “Who opposes and exalts Himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” It means that, in the end times, a leader, under the guise of serving the Lord, will go against God and proclaim that he is the Messiah. The Apostle Paul continues to say, “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10).

Let’s look at the Revelation 6:5-6. It says, “When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come and see.’ So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.””

It says that when the third seal is opened, the period of the black horse will arrive, and it will be the period of famine. What the period of famine means, as we have read in today’s Scripture passage, there will be famine and earthquake in various places and nations will rise against nations. After this will be the period of the pale horse, when the anti-Christ will appear and the killing of the Israelites will occur. Then we who have received the remission of the sin among the Gentiles will be martyred.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 also talks about this is this manner, “Who opposes and exalts Himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” It means that, in the end times, a leader, under the guise of serving the Lord, will go against God and proclaim that he is the Messiah. The Apostle Paul continues to say, “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10).

When we look at Matthew chapter 24, Jesus pointed to the Temple in Jerusalem and said, “Assuredly, not one stone that form the Jerusalem Temple shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” The disciples heard this and asked two questions: “When will these things be?” and “What will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

The Lord always prophesies the things He will do in the future by using the real things of this world as an illustration. He says that not one stone that forms the Temple of Jerusalem shall be left here upon another. Through this, the Lord is telling us how the world will be destroyed He said those words with such implication, and the disciples asked the Lord with consecutive questions “When will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

The Lord uses reality manlike this to illustrate the work He will do in the future. The Lord speaks of the beginning of the disasters, saying, “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:4-.

The beginning of sorrows that the Lord talks about means the disasters that announce the beginning of the Seven-year Tribulation. He is saying that before the Great Seven-year Tribulation, there will be nations rising against nations, famines, and earthquakes in various places. The Great Seven-year Tribulation will begin after many people appear and say they are Christ.

When we look at Matthew chapter 24, Jesus pointed to the Temple in Jerusalem and said, “Assuredly, not one stone that form the Jerusalem Temple shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” The disciples heard this and asked two questions: “When will these things be?” and “What will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

The Lord always prophesies the things He will do in the future by using the real things of this world as an illustration. He says that not one stone that forms the Temple of Jerusalem shall be left here upon another. Through this, the Lord is telling us how the world will be destroyed He said those words with such implication, and the disciples asked the Lord with consecutive questions “When will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

The Lord uses reality manlike this to illustrate the work He will do in the future. The Lord speaks of the beginning of the disasters, saying, “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:4-.

The beginning of sorrows that the Lord talks about means the disasters that announce the beginning of the Seven-year Tribulation. He is saying that before the Great Seven-year Tribulation, there will be nations rising against nations, famines, and earthquakes in various places. The Great Seven-year Tribulation will begin after many people appear and say they are Christ.

Revelation 1:7
"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen."

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An apple tree is bound to bear apples even if it doesn’t want to, and a pear tree can only yield pears when it grows no matter how desperately it might want to bear some other fruits. Human beings, too, cannot help but continue to sin, no matter how much they don’t want to and how hard they try not to sin, precisely because they were all born with sin. Everyone commits sin constantly with their thoughts, acts, and hearts. If circumstances would allow, people put into action the sins they committed only with their thought, and they even commit each and every one of the twelve kinds of sin all at once.


The secular law punishes only the sins committed in deed. However, the Law of God says that even the transgressions committed with the heart are sins, and they are to be punished also. Therefore, what people may not grasp as a sin, God still sees it all clearly. As such, the iniquities that we commit in our hearts are also counted as sins in God’s sight. This is the Godspoken Law. Just as His Word is true—that sin entered through one man, and death through this sin—the claim that human beings, who are all seeds of evildoers, can live in holiness without committing any sin is a lie. It is nothing more than a whitewashed tomb; a deception that tries to hide the fact that all human beings are sinful seeds through one man Adam.

Of course, I am not suggesting here that we should try to sin deliberately. Rather, what I mean is that it’s not because people are deliberately determined to sin that they commit sin, but they cannot help but sin because they were all born as seeds of sin. Whether people sin or not has nothing to do with their level of education or character. Everyone is a sinner who repeatedly commits sin in various forms under various circumstances.


How, then, can human beings, who can only be sinners, ever become God’s sinless children? Paul answers that just as sin entered this world through one man, it is also through one Man that everyone can receive the gift of salvation and be remitted from all his sins by believing in the righteousness of God.


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Kobojunkie:
Again .. Being born-again does not make one righteous as only those who remain faithful to the end are saved aka guaranteed righteous - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 and Mark 13 vs 13

Those who aren't born-again and aren't under God’s Old Covenant cannot be regarded as sinners as they are instead unbelievers.

Psalms 1:5
[5]Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

Romans 5:19
"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous."

Human beings can be biblically divided into 2: sinners or the righteous.

I keep asking you who don't even know your spiritual status;
Are you a sinner or a righteous?

Kobojunkie:
If you look closely you will see this too.

One of the greatest lies told by pastors and mogs for example, is that all persons who do not believe in Jesus Christ will end up on Hell. That directly contradicts the very teachings of Jesus Christ who instead taught His followers that only those who are born-again have access to the Kingdom of God either by way of the Broad Gate which leads to destruction(Hell) or the Narrow Gate which leads to true life(Heaven) - John 3 vs 5 - 8 and Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14. How can an unbeliever who has no access to the Kingdom of God end up in Hell? Do you judge a man who is a citizen of Nigeria by Laws that rule over those who are instead citizens of another country?

Where darkness encompasses, lies poses as truth. You are lying through your teeth, claiming to know.

If you correctly believe in Jesus and are truly bornagain, you go to Heaven. But if you incorrectly believe ( ie unsaved Christian/ not bornagain) or you don't believe at all, you end in hell.
John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

The Bible is very clear on the fact that people who do not believe are condemned; this condemnation is the condemnation/ judgement of hell fire. Your knowledge of the Bible is quite limited yet you speak confidently though what you say are apparent lies.

Lighthouse50:
Both estheragha and kobojunkie are saying the same thing but from different angle. Its like two people viewing a house at different angles. The one viewing from the front will claim to see garden and gate while the one viewing from the side will argue there is no gate or garden but only hanger with clothes on it and pegs holding the clothes to the rope. They both viewed the house and are both corqect. We as christian need to keep studying GOD'S WORDS To be able to go round the house and have the knowlege of every angle of it

If you read well,you ll see we are definitely not saying the same things.

Kobojunkie:
Being born-again does not make one righteous as only those who remain faithful to the end are saved aka guaranteed righteous - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 and Mark 13 vs 13

Those who aren't born-again and aren't under God’s Old Covenant cannot be regarded as sinners as they are instead unbelievers.

What are you?

A sinner or a righteous?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are wrong!

God said only those human beings who become born-again can get a chance at either His Heaven or His Hell to begin with. So your assertion is wrong as far as God's agreement/contract/Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ.

2. The statement in bold is against God. You think God's Love and mercy exists in isolation of His Justice and you are wrong because everything God does, including Hell, is love In action.

*When God drowned the earth, leaving just Noah and His family, that was love in action.
*When God buried over 14000 Israelites in sand for disobeying Him that was love in action.
* When God destroyed Jerusalem and the people of Israel each time they disobeyed Him, that was also God's Love and mercy in action.
* When God ordered famine and drought on the land of Israel, that was also God's Love in action.
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So don't delude yourself thinking you can separate God into ideas of your own making. Instead accept and understand Him as He presents Himself to you.

3. This statement is meaningless

You talk a lot of nonsense without understanding.

You tagged God as a legalistic God who has to justly follow His own law.
The law of God states that the wages of sin is death. If He applies that then all will go to hell because all sins both the bornagain and the unsaved. But in His love He has taken away the sins of humanity with the gospel of water and Spirit and those who know and believe in this true gospel have become the recipient of His love which has surpassed His judgment considering that they were supposed to die for their sins.

His love is greater than His judgment. If He were to follow His judgment explicitly, no one will go to heaven. All must pay the wages of their sins.

All you do is open your mouth and say things without meaning contradicting yourself and lacking understanding, just for speaking sake.

Kobojunkie:
You mean hypocrites, right?

God Himself is God of Laws. He is a Faithful God meaning He sticks to the terms and conditions of the Law He makes with men and so in a sense God Himself is legalistic.

God, in making Laws with men in form of Covenants, calls on men to also be faithful to the agreement He makes with them .i.e. God expects us to abide by the terms and conditions of the Covenant, Law, which He gives to us. So, God is Legalistic and He calls on us to submit to and obey the commandments/laws He gives us meaning He calls us to the having of a legalistic relationship with Him.

If God is a Legalistic God, then all mankind would burn in hell for His Law states that the wages/ payment of sin is death. In other words, we must die for any and all sin we commit. That is the justice of God, to justly punish sinners with death for their sins.

However, the love and mercy of God is greater than His justice. That's why He sent Jesus to take away the sins of mankind with His water, blood and Spirit and make them sinless/ righteous, fit to enter His kingdom.

Indeed His love has prevailed over His justice!

*Among the religious leaders of Christianity at the present, there are those who claim that Jesus took away our original sin but not our personal sins. The Bible does not speak of the original and personal sins, and no mention of such things is found in it.*

Before Jesus, all sins, great and small, from those we were born with to those that belong to us and those that we commit with our own acts—indeed, every possible sin—are the same, all manifested as the sins of the world. Water is water, whether it is sewage water or tap water. No one knows for sure when people started to distinguish their original sin from their personal sins.

*Because many Christian leaders themselves have not been born again, they do not know how to solve all the problems of sin, and because they do not know, they have turned Christianity into a mere religion, claiming that God would forgive our sins if we ‘repent’ our sins. The word ‘repent’ is far different from the word ‘confess’ (1 John 1:9).*

What is repentance? It only means to turn around; it does not mean praying for God to forgive us of our sins. God has said that He wants us to give Him offerings that ask for His mercy and grace. Having compassion for the souls heading to hell because of sin, God wants to save us—this is what His heart is all about. What His heart desires is to make the sinful beings sinless and holy through Jesus Christ and thereby enable them to take part in His Kingdom, and He has indeed fulfilled this completely.
Bk 11 pg 104


*“He [Christ] might sanctify and cleanse her [the Church] with the washing of water by the word” (Ephesians 5:26). Hebrews 9:14 says, “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” Hebrews 10:22 also says, “Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.”*

*We can find in these passages that the Bible emphasizes the water of Jesus’ baptism as well as His death on the Cross. Christ has saved us from all our sins by receiving the baptism and dying on the Cross. Jesus took all the sins of our conscience. In other words, Jesus took all the sins we commit through our actions, the sins we commit in our thoughts, the sins we commit intentionally, the sins we commit unconsciously, and the sins we commit because we are weak, and so on. Sin is recorded in the tablet of conscience when people commit sin. And they feel the pain in their conscience.*

*The conscience is the detector of the sins. Jesus took all our sins that torment our conscience when He received the baptism and He removed all our sins by dying on the Cross. That’s why God has cleansed our conscience from dead works to make us serve the living God.*

An apple tree is bound to bear apples even if it doesn’t want to, and a pear tree can only yield pears when it grows no matter how desperately it might want to bear some other fruits. Human beings, too, cannot help but continue to sin, no matter how much they don’t want to and how hard they try not to sin, precisely because they were all born with sin. Everyone commits sin constantly with their thoughts, acts, and hearts. If circumstances would allow, people put into action the sins they committed only with their thought, and they even commit each and every one of the twelve kinds of sin all at once.


The secular law punishes only the sins committed in deed. However, the Law of God says that even the transgressions committed with the heart are sins, and they are to be punished also. Therefore, what people may not grasp as a sin, God still sees it all clearly. As such, the iniquities that we commit in our hearts are also counted as sins in God’s sight. This is the Godspoken Law. Just as His Word is true—that sin entered through one man, and death through this sin—the claim that human beings, who are all seeds of evildoers, can live in holiness without committing any sin is a lie. It is nothing more than a whitewashed tomb; a deception that tries to hide the fact that all human beings are sinful seeds through one man Adam.

Of course, I am not suggesting here that we should try to sin deliberately. Rather, what I mean is that it’s not because people are deliberately determined to sin that they commit sin, but they cannot help but sin because they were all born as seeds of sin. Whether people sin or not has nothing to do with their level of education or character. Everyone is a sinner who repeatedly commits sin in various forms under various circumstances.


How, then, can human beings, who can only be sinners, ever become God’s sinless children? Paul answers that just as sin entered this world through one man, it is also through one Man that everyone can receive the gift of salvation and be remitted from all his sins by believing in the righteousness of God.


https://www.bjnewlife.org/sub.php?newlife=mission03&bidx=5&list=mission01&language1=English&displaying=&page_lang=english

Kobojunkie:
1. Those who are guilty of sin are those who are already judged and condemned by God Judgement. God judged and condemned all unbelievers guilty of sin from the beginning since Adam. That judgement is what is known as the condemnation of sin aka Death. Once a person has been condemned by a law there is no longer any hope for that person under that same law .I.e. the person is pretty much dead to the law.

A sinner, on other hand, is one who has yet to be judged guilty and as such is not condemned. He or she still has hope under the very same law .i.e. a sinner is one who is still under law.

The question was are you a sinner or a righteous? Have you been born of water and Spirit according to John 3:5 as a what?

Kobojunkie:
1. So where in scripture did God say that by not believing in Him man sins against Him??

2. Yet God's punishment in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 was directly connected to their disobedience of His commandment to them in Genesis 2 vs 15 - 17 ? Do you notice how unscriptural your claims continue to be?

3. But unbelievers are removed from "the presence of God", this by God Himself since after Adam and Eve fell.

And if you read closely the entire content of Psalm 1 vs 1 - 6, you will find that unbelievers are addressed as the wicked - Psalm 1 vs 4 - since they have no place before God - they are like chaff that the wind blows away .

4. Stop spinning tales and begin to open your eyes to what is in fact stated by God.

Unbelief is a sin.

Jesus said in John 16:8-9
[8]And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
[9]of sin, because they do not believe in Me;


Are you a sinner or a righteous?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, sin is disobedience of God's Law and commandments and disobedience is a choice made against.

Abel, & Abraham etc., were not born sinners but instead unbelievers. They then made choice to obey God rather than sin against Him leading them to righteousness eventually..

2. I, a Gentile, was born an unbeliever from my birth. I then made the choice to believe God entering under His Law by which I continue to chose to and live in continuous submission to and obedience of His commandments.

To be an unbeliever also is to be a sinner.
Sin is not just transgression/ disobedience of the law but unbelief in the word of God. It is a sin not to believe. All human beings are born as unbelievers in God / sinners, until they believe in the word of God. No one was born righteous nor a believer.
Romans 3:10
[10]As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;


Before Adam and Eve disobeyed God, they had already committed the sin of unbelief by refusing to believe in the word of God that told them not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Unbelief, ie, not believing in the word God told them is the IST SIN they committed inside their hearts even before they disobeyed with their body. That's is why sin is inside the human heart. If they had believed wholly in the word God told them inside their heart, they would not have disobeyed His Word.

In the presence of God, there can either be sinners or righteous . This is shown in Psalms 1:5 that says
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

So I still ask you even as you say you are a believer, are you a sinner or a righteous person since you already know that Abraham, Abel etc were transformed into righteous though they were previously sinners?

Kobojunkie:
1. Now of what I have stated so far is personal since all I have done is tell you what is instead written in scripture.

2. Again, the statement in bold is inaccurate aka a lie. What mankind instead inherited from Adam is God's judgement aka curse and that curse remains the reason why both the unbelievers and believers( even the righteous) alike suffer.

3. Do you know the proper use of the word "nature"? It is used to describe that aspect of a thing that cannot be easily gotten rid of no matter what one tries.

According to you, man has has sin nature. Yet, you believe there are also men who were able to rid themselves of this nature simply by obeying God. That alone already indicates either a lack of understanding as far as your use of the term "nature" to qualify sin in men, or that you are simply propagating an idea you don't even have a real understanding of.

God cursed mankind and that curse is what remains on all mankind - unbelievers and believers alike(even the righteous among them). The curse can be regarded of nature because nothing man does can rid Him of the curse. Only God can lift it and His redemption plan instead has man making different choices even as He continues to exist in this world that is cursed.

4a. The Old Covenant aka the Constitution of the Nation of Israel given by God to the Children of Israel. also offered remission of sins.

4b.Transformation that you speak of happens only to those who stand faithful - living in continous submission and obedience of Jesus Christ's commandments(and teachings) - till the very end - Matthew 24 vs 13. .

So far you haven't told me anything written in the scripture in relation to sin. Check your past posts. What you have been saying are your personal opinions devoid of any scripture. All human beings are indeed born sinners according to scripture for all have sinned.( Romans 3:23)

In this age and time people can indeed rid themselves of the sin nature gotten through Adam through Jesus ( through believing in the original gospel of being born of water and Spirit). This is according to the scripture that says Romans 5:19
[19]For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

However, according to your understanding, were Abel, Abraham etc BORN into this world AS RIGHTEOUS?

And are you a sinner or a righteous?