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Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 6:14pm On Jan 19, 2012

Edoardo Agnelli: Great Italian Martyr Of Islam Who Left Christianity And Riches


- born in 1954,Son of Italian Billionaire,Giovani Agnelli
-Giovani Agnelli is the owner of fiat motors and Juventus Footbal Club
-Giovani is Christian
-Mother of Edoardo is Jewish
-Edoardo left all the riches and embraced Islam and the teachings of the Ahlul-Bayt (as)
-He visited Iran and prayed Ju'muah prayer behind Ayatollah Ali Khamanei
- Edoardo Agnelli was killed on the 15th of November,2000 in Turin,Italy by the enemies of Islam.
-they falsely claim that Edoardo Agnelli committed suicide, by dumping his body close to a bridge renouned as a place people commit suicide

here is a 2:35 seconds video on him where he can be seen performing friday prayer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIN_KksILo

and here is a long documentary on him that is over an hour long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwzHu75_z0Y
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 6:30pm On Jan 19, 2012
[img]http://www.corriere.it/Media/Foto/2005/11_Novembre/03/edoardo.jpg[/img]
Edoardo in Iran


In The Holy City of Qom,Edoardo Agnelli's offering Friday prayers behind Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Iran (1981)


Edoardo Agnelli is standing behind Ayatollah Khamenei


Edoardo Agnelli behind with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 8:19pm On Jan 19, 2012
please this is a serious life story,every believing Muslim must watch the documentary below.it is just an hour and about 4 minutes long.see how a christian billionare's son was frustrated and dealt with for embracing Islam.Princess Diana rings a bell!!!


and here is a long documentary on him that is over an hour long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwzHu75_z0Y
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by Zhulfiqar1: 9:42pm On Jan 19, 2012
Masha'Allah how fortunate we are to be Muslims with no price to pay!!!

this was an inspiring story.i just watched the hour long documentary and i had to control myself to not break down in tears.

what a cruel world we live in. cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 11:09pm On Jan 19, 2012
check wikipedia entry on this story;

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edoardo_Agnelli
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by Nobody: 11:14pm On Jan 19, 2012
LagosShia:


Edoardo Agnelli behind with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei


What a disgusting Pedophile angry

Shia Kafirs, na wa for them grin
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 11:39pm On Jan 19, 2012
goggs:

check wikipedia entry on this story;

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edoardo_Agnelli

the article on wikipedia simply says that it was published on iranian newspaper that Edoardo was killed "without providing evidence".the article in wikipedia should not confirm that he committed suicide and also it should not confirm that he was killed if they dont have evidence for both cases.in that way,the article would be neutral.wikipedia cannot provide evidence either that the man committed suicide.the situation surrounding his death and the points observed and mentioned definitely show he was killed.

the fact is no one saw him commit suicide and he left no suicide note.besides,you need to watch the documentary in the OP to know that this man was killed.there is a lot of evidence and points to confirm without a shadow of doubt that this man was killed because he embraced Islam.ofcourse,he would not be killed and his killers would say or admit that they killed him.no thief would announce he has stolen.

here are some of the points you should consider:

1.) Edoardo was the only male child of the family.Edoardo was not designated by his father as heir of the family.the father designated his nephew.when the nephew died,the father designated his 20 years old grandson from his daughter as heir whose father is a zionist jew.why?

2.) his body was found with apparent head injuries which point to physical blows.

3.) no autopsy was carried out.why?what were they hiding? was there any body part of his that broke if he committed suicide from such high bridge?

4.) he was buried quickly.

5.) he left no suicide letter.no signs of suicide.

6.) Edoardo wanted to flee from Italy since he knew his life was in danger.he was prevented from buying an air ticket!!! can you imagine?

7.) Edoardo,a billionaire's son, was deprived even of pocket money and was watched and isolated.

8.) they first set him up in Kenya while on holiday to accuse him of using hard drugs.the charge was dropped and he was vindicated and the plot exposed.

please watch the documentary!!!
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 10:02am On Jan 20, 2012
Iranian propaganda!

You think the west loves its own citizens less than Iranians. it has shown time and again it will risk life and limb for its own.

if this dude had been a normal guy on the street would Iran spend political capital on this story? No. its cause the man is a son to a popular industrialist.

There are people who choose Islam from other religions and are not given similar attention. Also, there are tens of thousands of Muslims in Italy who are not hounded or harassed because they are muslims, so why is this guys story any different.

its propaganda. Iran should be tolerant to its religious minorities just like the west is to theirs and stop whining.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 10:15am On Jan 20, 2012
goggs:

Iranian propaganda!

You think the west loves its own citizens less than Iranians. it has shown time and again it will risk life and limb for its own.

if this dude had been a normal guy on the street would Iran spend political capital on this story? No. its cause the man is a son to a popular industrialist.

There are people who choose Islam from other religions and are not given similar attention. Also, there are tens of thousands of Muslims in Italy who are not hounded or harassed because they are muslims, so why is this guys story any different.

its propaganda. Iran should be tolerant to its religious minorities just like the west is to theirs and stop whining.

Western propaganda!

you think the Iran loves Muslims less than Westerners? it has shown time and again it will risk life and limb for muslims.

if this dude had been a normal guy on the street would the zionists spend political capital on this assasination? No.its cause the man is a son to a popular industrialist.

there are people who choose Islam from other religions and are given similar treatement. Also,there are tens of thousands of Muslims in Ita;y who are hounded or harassed because they are muslims,so this guy's story is not different.

its propaganda (he committed suicide).Italy should be tolerant to its religious minorities just like Iran is to theirs and stop whining.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by tpia5: 11:46am On Jan 20, 2012
The guy was a buddhist as well and also toured India.

He was from a powerful family and most of these extremely rich families have a lot of weird stuff that goes on.

I think if he werent rich there wouldnt be this much outcry.

How was he able to get so close to ayatollah, being an outsider, and why was he constantly photographed around him? Was it because he was rich and was he being used to showcase?
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 4:58pm On Jan 20, 2012
LagosShia:

Western propaganda!

you think the Iran loves Muslims less than Westerners? it has shown time and again it will risk life and limb for muslims.

if this dude had been a normal guy on the street would the zionists spend political capital on this assasination? No.its cause the man is a son to a popular industrialist.

there are people who choose Islam from other religions and are given similar treatement. Also,there are tens of thousands of Muslims in Ita;y who are hounded or harassed because they are muslims,so this guy's story is not different.

its propaganda (he committed suicide).[b]Italy should be tolerant to its religious minorities just like Iran is to theirs [/b]and stop whining.

all I see is a guy with political potential and Iran took it on themselves to elevate him.

@ bolded; how does Iran treat th Baha'i faith? worse that sub humans. did you know Baha'i faith adherents in Iran are denied University education? do you how many have been murdered? just for being Baha'i ?
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 10:27pm On Jan 20, 2012
goggs:

all I see is a guy with political potential and Iran took it on themselves to elevate him.
truly so or not,that has nothing to do with why this man deserved to be killed.

this man got the right to whatever political role he can attain.

why the beaf?


@ bolded; how does Iran treat th Baha'i faith? worse that sub humans. did you know Baha'i faith adherents in Iran are denied University education? do you how many have been murdered? just for being Baha'i ?
they are not murdered at all.they are a banned movement in Iran.likewise,in many countries even in europe you find that Jehovah's witnesses are also banned.

in the united states of america,the christian polygamist sect is persecuted and their leader (Warren Jeffs) is in prison.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 12:16pm On Jan 21, 2012
LagosShia:

truly so or not,that has nothing to do with why this man deserved to be killed.

this man got the right to whatever political role he can attain.

why the beaf?


Yes oh! I agree with you that the man has the FULL rights to attain whatever political role he wants to attain. Its not him i have reservations about, its the Iranians that have built conspiracies around his death. Of course he was a pawn in the cold war between the west and Iran during the Iranian revolution.

Iran itself is not minding the thousands that were killed because they were a threat to the state or for apostasy. Edoardo's life is not more precious that them. If Iran has equated his life with those of its citizens, there will be less repression for apostasy for example



they are not murdered at all.they are a banned movement in Iran.likewise,in many countries even in europe you find that Jehovah's witnesses are also banned.

in the united states of america,the christian polygamist sect is persecuted and their leader (Warren Jeffs) is in prison.

Jehovah's are NOT banned in Europe except for communist countries where religious, whatever they are, are curtailed.

Jehovah's witness' problems in the west got to a head in the 1930's and 1940's when World War II was at its peak. The allies needed recruits and Jehovah's witness are highly pacifist (ie someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes) and that clashed with recruitments and allegiances (anthems and flag salutes etc). In the course of the war they were derided and scorned for not being patriotic. Quite quickly, the courts stepped in and resolved the issues in favour of Jehovah's Witnesses.


in the united states of america,the christian polygamist sect is persecuted and their leader (Warren Jeffs) is in prison.

Jeffs was convicted of  felony counts of child intimate assault, child marriages, violation and forced marriages. The American legal system is very hard on child sex offenders. He had operated his cult for sometime without molestation until he overstepped his bounds by touching children the wrong way. THIS IS NOT PERSECUTION. What he did is DISGUSTING and he didnt deny it. He got what he deserved.


they are not murdered at all.they are a banned movement in Iran.

They are not a movement but a religious sect with a different leaning in Islam placing them outside mainstream Islam. They are viewed as heretics or apostates.  There  are several documented extreme violence against the group. This is an entry in wikipedia about their persecution in Iran:


Starting in late 1979 the new government of the Islamic Republic of Iran systematically targeted the leadership of the Bahá'í community by focusing on the Bahá'í National Spiritual Assembly (NSA) and Local Spiritual Assemblies (LSA). In November 1979, Ali Murad Davudi, the secretary of the NSA, was kidnapped and never seen again.[30] In August 1980 all nine members of the National Spiritual Assembly were arrested while meeting at a private home.[10] In a statement on September 10, 1980, then speaker of the House Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, stated that an order for the arrests of the Bahá'ís had been issued, but by October 9, 1980 Rafsanjani changed his statement and said that no members of the NSA were arrested.[10] There has been no further news regarding the nine NSA members since their arrest in 1980, and their fate remains unknown, although there are reports that they were at some point held in Evin prison; they are now presumed dead.[10] After the disappearance of the NSA members, the Iranian Bahá'í elected a new NSA. On December 13, 1981 eight of the nine new NSA members were arrested by the Iranian authorities, and were executed on December 27, 1981 without trial.[10]
In addition to the execution of the members of two National Spiritual Assemblies, the members of Local Spiritual Assemblies throughout the country were also killed. Between April 1979 and December 1980 at least eight prominent Tehran Bahá'ís were killed. In September 1980 in Yazd, fifteen Bahá'ís were arrested, and after a graphic trial that was partially televised, seven of the Bahá'ís were executed; the remaining eight were released after four months.[10] In Tabriz in 1979 two prominent Bahá'ís were executed and then in 1981 all nine members of the Tabriz LSA were executed. In Hamadan seven members of the LSA of Hamaden were executed by firing squad, and while the bodies were being prepared for the funeral it was found that six of the men were physically tortured before their death.[10] In Shiraz between 1978 and 1981, the House of the Báb, a Bahá'í holy place, was destroyed, five prominent Bahá'ís were executed, and more than 85 Bahá'ís were arrested for interrogations; then in 1983 sixteen more Bahá'ís were executed.[10]
On August 29, 1983 the government announced a legal ban on all administrative and community activities of the Bahá'í community, which required the dissolution of the third National Spiritual Assembly and about 400 Local Spiritual Assemblies.[10] The Bahá'í community complied with the ban, but the former members of the LSAs were routinely harassed, and seven members of the third NSA were eventually arrested and executed.[10]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Bah%C3%A1'%C3%ADs

incidentally, the Bahai faith takes a very pragmatic view about the world and how to solve its problems. I really dont see how the Bahai is a threat in Iran. I need to be educated.  I drew this conclusion going by their creed ;

The independent search after truth, unfettered by superstition or tradition; the oneness of the entire human race, the pivotal principle and fundamental doctrine of the Faith; the basic unity of all religions; the condemnation of all forms of prejudice, whether religious, racial, class or national; the harmony which must exist between religion and science; the equality of men and women, the two wings on which the bird of humankind is able to soar; the introduction of compulsory education; the adoption of a universal auxiliary language; the abolition of the extremes of wealth and poverty; the institution of a world tribunal for the adjudication of disputes between nations; the exaltation of work, performed in the spirit of service, to the rank of worship; the glorification of justice as the ruling principle in human society, and of religion as a bulwark for the protection of all peoples and nations; and the establishment of a permanent and universal peace as the supreme goal of all mankind—these stand out as the essential elements [which Bahá'u'lláh proclaimed].[27]

I wonder why they are so despised in Iran.

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Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 1:01pm On Jan 21, 2012
^^^^^^^

my friend first you are taking ths topic into another direction of "two wrongs make a right".and even at that,you will fail to point out your own wrong you think the other side has done to justify the murder of Edoardo Agnelli.

as for the Bahai,you asked an important question:

"i wonder why they are so despised in Iran".

you have asked a big question because you have not being told the answer they conceal from you or you are the one concealing it from us.

you will know the answer to your question,by telling us this:

where is the headquarter (or what is called the "administrative center"wink of the bahai faith in the world? tell us where then connect the dots to find your answer in identifying their political role they played in Iran.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 3:53pm On Jan 21, 2012
LagosShia:

^^^^^^^

my friend first you are taking[b] ths topic into another direction of "two wrongs make a right".[/b]and even at that,you will fail to point out your own wrong you think the other side has done to justify the murder of Edoardo Agnelli.



You were the one who wrote Italy should be tolerant to its religious minorities just like Iran is to theirs thus bringing in a whole dimension (false I may add) to the story. The murder (still unproven), if true, IS WRONG. Dont get me wrong on that. The Italian police say that the death is a suicide, the Iranians say it is not. How come the Iranians know better than the Italian police in it own turf? Did they have access to the evidence? Do they care more for the man than Italians? Besides Iran is known for posturing and repression of minorities (which I have shown) so its not exactly on a high moral standing to make allegations cos if the man (Edoardo) were a Muslim and converted to, say, Bahai, going by antecedents of Iranians, chances are he wouldnt be treated well.



as for the Bahai,you asked an important question:

"i wonder why they are so despised in Iran".

you have asked a big question because you have not being told the answer they conceal from you or you are the one concealing it from us.

you will know the answer to your question,by telling us this:

where is the headquarter (or what is called the "administrative center"wink of the bahai faith in the world? tell us where then connect the dots to find your answer in identifying their political role they played in Iran.


that answer lies here:


The Iranian government claims that the Bahá'í Faith is not a religion, but a political organization, and hence refuses to recognize it as a minority religion.[122] However, the government has never produced convincing evidence supporting its characterization of the Bahá'í community.[123] Also the government's statements that Bahá'ís who recanted their religion would have their rights restored, attests to the fact that Bahá'ís are persecuted solely for their religious affiliation.[124] The Iranian government also accuses the Bahá'í Faith of being associated with Zionism because the Bahá'í World Centre is located in Haifa, Israel.[125] These accusations against the Bahá'ís have no basis in historical fact,[126][127][128] and the accusations are used by the Iranian government to use the Bahá'ís as "scapegoats".[129] In fact it was the Iranian Shah who banished Bahá'u'lláh from Persia to the Ottoman Empire and he was later exiled by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, at the behest of the Persian Shah, to territories further away from Iran and finally to Acre in Syria, which only a century later was incorporated into the state of Israel.[130]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai

As if Christianity and even Islam don't have a strong affinity to the Jews and the land of Israel. Even the Jews in Iran are better treated than the Bahai. This begs the question who bears more allegiance to Isreal? Jews or the Bahai? Its politics, paranoia and the challenge it poses religion in Iran.

As Bernard Lewis states that the Muslim laity and Islamic authorities have always had great difficulty in accommodating post-Islamic monotheistic religions such as the Bahá'í Faith, since the followers of such religions cannot be dismissed either as benighted heathens, like the polytheists of Asia and the animists of Africa, nor as outdated precursors, like the Jews and Christians. Moreover, their very existence presents a challenge to the Islamic doctrine of the finality of Muhammad's revelation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai


For Iran and other arabian nations anything from Isreal is viewed with suspicion. Check this out

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12120259

They should let religious minorities be jor, just as there are Muslims in Switzerland, Germany, US, Canada, Spain and Italy living their lives free and even wanting laws changes to respect them and their religious preferences, countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia should open up and do the same so that people can truly be free to be Stone worshippers, sangoist, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, humanist or free thinkers!!

It is wrong to want to be treated right elsewhere when YOU DENY OTHER PEOPLE (EVEN YOUR OWN PEOPLE) THE VERY SAME RIGHTS. Its called hypocrisy. Its plain wrong!
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 4:22pm On Jan 21, 2012
Mr. "goggs"

i have stated my views clearly and it is left for you to accept or reject.

as for the martyrdom of Edoardo Agnelli and those who killed him,please watch the documentary and then make up your mind.Italian police say he committed suicide based on what evidence? the only speculation they base their claim on is that his body was found near a bridge where he could have thrown himself from.but did he? the evidence available even made by an italian lawyer in the documentary convincingly point that the man was killed and there was a cover-up.watch it if you like.

but to argue with you over so many points and redherrings and this and that is a waste of time here.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 6:08pm On Jan 21, 2012
to you its a waste of time cos you can't counter the truth of what I have written that's all.

if you could, you would have been all over the place as usual.

Iran should spare us of their propaganda with the west. We have plenty here to more than occupy us
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 8:35pm On Jan 21, 2012
goggs:

to you its a waste of time cos you can't counter the truth of what I have written that's all.

if you could, you would have been all over the place as usual.

Iran should spare us of their propaganda with the west. We have plenty here to more than occupy us




you are looking for arguments that are irrelevant to this topic that you'd spam the thread with.who even brought the issue of bahais into this thread?this thread isn't about Iran.this thread is about Edoardo Agnelli and the monsters that killed him.you are shocked and tormented by the news.you went to wikipedia to find out who Edoardo Agnelli was.you simply wanted something to cling to.you dont want to use your head.did you even watch the documentary?no!and you think this man would be killed and the zionists would say :"we did it"!!! recently an iranian nuclear scientist was killed in Iran.he was the fifth to be assasinated by the Israeli MOSSAD and western intelligence agencies through their spies.but you dont hear them taking responsibility for the assasinations.why?could you tell us?you are acting dumb and it is very annoying.

please shut-up!
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 9:14pm On Jan 21, 2012
LagosShia:


you are looking for arguments that are irrelevant to this topic that you'd spam the thread with.who even brought the issue of bahais into this thread?this thread isn't about Iran.this thread is about Edoardo Agnelli and the monsters that killed him.you are shocked and tormented by the news.you went to wikipedia to find out who Edoardo Agnelli was.you simply wanted something to cling to.you dont want to use your head.did you even watch the documentary?no!and you think this man would be killed and the zionists would say :"we did it"!!! recently an iranian nuclear scientist was killed in Iran.he was the fifth to be assasinated by the Israeli MOSSAD and western intelligence agencies through their spies.but you dont hear them taking responsibility for the assasinations.why?could you tell us?you are acting dumb and it is very annoying.

please shut-up!

Of course I went to look up Edoardo online. What were you thinking? I will swallow what goo you post and accept as fact?

You say I brought in the issue of Bahai into the thread. I gave an example with Bahai and you made a false statement to counter my example and naturally, I showed you your folly. Ultimately, It was to prove a point which I did. YOU my friend are doing what you just accused me- bringing the death of an Iranian Nuclear scientist into the thread.

I am acting dumb? Its cos I aint taking your side of the story and you cant stand it.

Please shut up? Its you who should. You make a post and can't stand people posting back? Then dont post tongue
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 9:51pm On Jan 21, 2012
please back to the topic:

"Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam"

thanks.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 9:20am On Jan 22, 2012
LagosShia:

please back to the topic:

"Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam"

thanks.

Which topic did you think we are on?

Next time research well before posting stuff. Don't think we will let your emotional outbursts go unchallenged!  grin
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 11:22am On Jan 22, 2012
goggs:

Which topic did you think we are on?

Next time research well before posting stuff. Don't think we will let your emotional outbursts go unchallenged! grin

watch the documentary to the end and your stone heart would be healed and you'd be touched and believe!
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 2:37pm On Jan 22, 2012
LagosShia:

watch the documentary to the end and your stone heart would be healed and you'd be touched and believe!

I was left with more questions than answers.

did some research on the guy. Clever film making it was. unlike you I ain't that gullible. I don't fall for propaganda unless I do my research well and get a good position on issues. I don't just watch a couple of minutes film and take it as true.

that kind of blind belief ended in the 60's with World War 2 propaganda.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 4:45pm On Jan 22, 2012
goggs:

I was left with more questions than answers.

did some research on the guy. Clever film making it was. unlike you I ain't that gullible. I don't fall for propaganda unless I do my research well and get a good position on issues. I don't just watch a couple of minutes film and take it as true.

that kind of blind belief ended in the 60's with World War 2 propaganda.

thanks for viewing.next!
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 9:56pm On Jan 22, 2012
LagosShia:

thanks for viewing.next!

your next gullible victim abi ? grin

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Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 10:31pm On Jan 22, 2012
goggs:

your next gullible victim abi ? grin

NVFSB rating: NSFV (Not Suitable For Viewing)

no.i meant the next victim of the west's and christianity's conspiracy against Islam and the shining heros of Islam who they either kill or oppress and persecute.

1.) Malcom X
2.) Ahmad Deedat
3.) Princess Diana
4.) Michael Jackson
5.) Edoardo Agnellli

next=?
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 11:32pm On Jan 22, 2012
LagosShia:

no.i meant the next victim of the west's and christianity's conspiracy against Islam and the shining heros of Islam who they either kill or oppress and persecute.

1.) Malcom X
2.) Ahmad Deedat
3.) Princess Diana
4.) Michael Jackson
5.) Edoardo Agnellli

next=?

Are you serious?  shocked

Ahmed Deedat was 87 when he died (1918 -2005). If old age (and complications from stroke) wasnt the culprit, what is? He was lucky to be in a Country that allowed him the space for his activities. I wonder which country will keep him safe if his message was the other way round.

I thought Michael Jackson was an overdose of propofol and Dr. Murray was convicted for it. When was he termed a hero of Islam?

I thought Malcolm X was shot by his fellow nation of Islam members among them Talmadge Hayer (caught red handed). Malcolm had a weird view of Islam that, while he used it to express the equality of blacks and white, surely will alienate him from main stream Islam. He was a great freedom fighter no less and did acknowledge his wrongs (signs of great men).

Princess Diana's death was not by natural causes and from which side of the divide you look at it, conspiracies will abound. The British and French maintain their story (drunken driver) while others believe they were done in. If I may ask when did she become a hero of Islam? I didnt know that. Dont tell me its just because she was dating Dodi.

You can go on inventing conspiracy theories for the death of everyone in the world if you want to. But its better to be pragmatic about these things. The real heroes are everyday people, nameless ordinary folks who bear the brunt of oppression and restrictions in their own country for the sake of ethnicity, religion or race.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 11:48pm On Jan 22, 2012
goggs:

Are you serious?  shocked

Ahmed Deedat was 87 when he died (1918 -2005). If old age (and complications from stroke) wasnt the culprit, what is? He was lucky to be in a Country that allowed him the space for his activities. I wonder which country will keep him safe if his message was the other way round.
you forgot to mention what i meant.fanatical christians rejoiced and saw his death as a punishment for "blasphemy" against christian beliefs.


I thought Michael Jackson was an overdose of propofol and Dr. Murray was convicted for it. When was he termed a hero of Islam?
he was scared of the jews.he called them "lyches".


I thought Malcolm X was shot by his fellow nation of Islam members among them Talmadge Hayer (caught red handed). Malcolm had a weird view of Islam that, while he used it to express the equality of blacks and white, surely will alienate him from main stream Islam. He was a great freedom fighter no less and did acknowledge his wrongs (signs of great men).
another hated man who was oppressed.


Princess Diana's death was not by natural causes and from which side of the divide you look at it, conspiracies will abound. The British and French maintain their story (drunken driver) while others believe they were done in. If I may ask when did she become a hero of Islam? I didnt know that. Dont tell me its just because she was dating Dodi.

yes.and she died with her Muslim Arab boyfriend for whom she was said to be pregnant for.


You can go on inventing conspiracy theories for the death of everyone in the world if you want to. But its better to be pragmatic about these things. The real heroes are everyday people, nameless ordinary folks who bear the brunt of oppression and restrictions in their own country for the sake of ethnicity, religion or race.


there is no smoke without fire.

you just need to be realistic and open your eyes.

before you even made us believe you watched Edoardo Agnelli's documentary,you were already looking for what to use to live in denial and oppose the fact he was killed.many points are given the man was killed.but i have not seen any point why they want to assume he committed suicide.ofcourse,you want to believe what suits you or rather deceive yourself.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 11:54pm On Jan 22, 2012
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by Nobody: 12:26am On Jan 23, 2012
So even Diana was a Muslim, lol.

this has to be the peak of desperation.

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Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by LagosShia: 12:43am On Jan 23, 2012
frosbel:

So even Diana was a Muslim, lol.

this has to be the peak of desperation.

grin grin

and this is the peak of christian dumbness.

the child she was said to be carrying would have being muslim.and that muslim would have been the brother of the future king of the UK.
Re: Edoardo Agnelli: Son of Billionaire Italian Killed For Embracing Islam by goggs(m): 1:15am On Jan 23, 2012
LagosShia, you love making things up  grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is what you wrote:
no.i meant the next victim of the west's and christianity's conspiracy against Islam and the shining heros of Islam who they either kill or oppress and persecute.


LagosShia:

you forgot to mention what i meant.fanatical christians rejoiced and saw his death as a punishment for "blasphemy" against christian beliefs.

What has the first quote got to do with this statement? Show me a link about rejoicing Christians about his death. The man is lucky that the Christians he is deriding follow a God of peace and non violence as taught by Jesus Christ. If he had been in an Islamic country publishing such about Muslims and Islam, he wouldn't live to see a week. You know it. You LagosShia did allude in a thread about violence to those who say ill of Islam. What more eloquent testimony of Jesus when he foretold that Christians will be mocked and derided for his sake. But we should be calm and courageous for it shall come to pass. Thats why he was accommodated in South Africa, publishing his stories till he died. In contrast, all authors that publish such against Islam are in hiding, incarcerated or worse.


he was scared of the jews.he called them "lyches".

What has that got to do with the first post? Does that make him a hero of Islam?


another hated man who was oppressed.

Malcolm X was in a class of his own. But how does that relate to the first quote of yours. Malcolm X made some blasphemous claims against Islam (I hope you know) so calling him shinning Hero is a misnomer. Even me I know that one. Check out:

He said that the Nation of Islam followed Islam as it was practiced around the world, but the Nation's teachings varied from those of other Muslims because they were adapted to the "uniquely pitiful" condition of black people in America.[218] He taught that Wallace Fard Muhammad, the founder of the Nation, was Allah incarnate,[219] and that Elijah Muhammad (then head of TNI)was his Messenger, or prophet  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_x#cite_note-0

yes.and she died with her Muslim Arab boyfriend for whom she was said to be pregnant for.

there is no smoke without fire.

you just need to be realistic and open your eyes.

Not to extent of seeing conspiracy in every death of important people.

before you even made us believe you watched Edoardo Agnelli's documentary,you were already looking for what to use to live in denial and oppose the fact he was killed.many points are given the man was killed.but i have not seen any point why they want to assume he committed suicide.ofcourse,you want to believe what suits you or rather deceive yourself.

Don't believe all you see till you study the facts and convince yourself. Did you seriously think that the video will also show the other side of the story clearly for you to make a choice. You should do some digging. I am not saying that there are no conspiracy theories, but one needs to be circumspect in a world filled with information overload.

For example, you were calling Malcolm X hero of Islam, but here is a man that claimed Allah and Prophet Mohammed HAD AN EARTHLY INCARNATE?! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked I am not a Muslim but I know that it is inconsistent with Islamic teaching and will not agree with that.

BUT YOU called him a HERO in ISLAM.

Who just deceived himself now? me or you?  

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