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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:05pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: I always wonder why you guys just like to say rubbish, your knowledge of history is just a bunch of stupid chest bearing lies. First of all there was no such thing as Igbo nation, there were several primitive tribes which were referred to as Igbo out of laziness to give each one if them a separate name. The Igbos were not organised. And your talk of 30 years, my god, do I look like a toddler to you ? |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:07pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots:what I am saying i that if your Benin had suu7ch a strong influence, how come they defeated you within days by a small crew of non serving soldiers under a few days? I believe you are very bright. You can google the Benin Expedition of 1897 to aid your understanding of the subject. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:08pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Sufferingboy: Obaseki ancestors came from Nsukwa and not Isselle-uku. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Norwichsailor(m): 8:10pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes:Lol it's ijaw, ibibio, tiv and kanuri after the big three. those ones ur mentioning there are imposter's |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:13pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: Look you little toddler who just discovered Google, I am not like you, I have actually studied Benin history. You were probably still crawling on the floor when I was already studying Benin history in European libraries. Now you are just trying to troll. How should I tell you I am not here to beat my chest. You can try all you want to claim British victory over Benin is some how your people's victory over Benin. It remains that Benin was the super power of the region and Britain couldn't do trade in the region without the permission of the Oba, which is why they invaded. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:14pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots: Google Ekumeku Movement between 1883–1914 and the Anglo-Aro war of 1901-1902. Please, compare this with the Benin Expedition that happened in 1897. And please, do not at as you do not know what I am saying. 1 Like |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:15pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Sufferingboy: You are Bini subjects. What happened in Ikaland is same as in Hausaland. It's same thing that happened in Ilorin. The only difference is that origin of the conquered people were distorted in Ika to give the people a sense of belonging by their Bini kings, while in case of Hause and Ilorin, the conquering Fulani kings maintained the history of the people they conquered. So we know that Ilorin natives are actually Yoruba natives with few Fulani and Hausas who came with the conquering Fulani kings as foot soldiers. In the case of Hausa, we know the Hausas are Hausa while their kings are Fulanis. In case of Ika, the people origin was distorted to become the same as that of their conquering Edo kings with their foot soldiers who assimilated as indigenes. This is why the origin stories of Ika became irrational as you struggle to explain away the Igboid language being the native language of a people who supposedly originated from Bini and live next door to Edo state. The guy you are replying got it right. Ika was conquered by Bini. Its the only rational explanation. 1 Like |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:16pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: What the hell is your point, obviously I am not going to Google your rubbish. You guys are senseless children. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:19pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Norwichsailor:Well, true. However, Ijaw's place in 4th position is not certain and they are trying to make sure of this by absorbing as many groups as possible. This is also clashing with the Bini Expansion movement. The most clueless amongst these lots is Ibibio and Efik. They are so disunited that they do not understand the political machinations of the other ethnopolitical groups. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:22pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Is there anybody who can show me that not all Nigerians are mentally ill ? Because all I see here are mentally ill people. It feels like both Igbo and yoruba are just like the person in this skit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DA1uwVsdE |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:24pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: That's the point of my campaign. Ndiigbo have to understand that these people are nothing but opportunists who have nothing to offer Ndiigbo. We must make it impossible for an Ika to be able to claim Igbo for opportunist reasons. We must solidify the distinction between us and these Bini subjects and make it impossible for any of them to claim Igbo without getting publicly disgraced by Ndiigbo. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:24pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:is @sufferingboy denying that they are Bini subjects? Bini is taking back Ika, one town after the other. First, they Isolate you to take a unique ethnicity like they are doing to the Agbor and Igbanke people, then they absorb you. They take them piece by piece, town by town. Today, Agbor people are claiming that Ika is a fraud, Igbanke is claiming a distinct identity. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:28pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots: Haha. This one don vex. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:34pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:If by vex you mean: the annoyance associated with talking to people whose intellect is extremely low, then yes. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:35pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: The Igbanke I'm seeing is gone. All the Bini needs to keep them is to give them more political posts in Bini and Oba palace. The people are dying to be Bini and are only seeking for Delta state because they feel badly treated by their Edo masters. It's a practical case of Stockholm syndrome. I watch them deliberate on these issues on their forums and I would just be shaking my head. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:38pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
@seun @mynd44 this thread is filled with hate speech and racist insults and attempts to cause war amongst brothers. The people of the southeast are trying to cause mayhem in the southsouth. Please do the needful. @seun, the things we see on your forum are not allowed in any other forum. You need to moderate your forum better, it is becoming the most dirty social media in this world. Is this what you want. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:42pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
The things you guys in the southeast are doing are nothing less than develish. And later you guys will show up in church. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:44pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots:@ sufferingboy, please, come and take your bini brother. He seem to be having some sort of mental breakdown. @Igboid, is this the type of people you deal with on a daily basis? This page was about Ndoki. Wetin concern Ndoki for Abia state with Bini man for Edo state? This is what I call minority inferiority complex syndrome. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:44pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots: You are struggling to deal with the fact that Bini kingdom was over exaggerated and in no way as strong as Igbo towns west (Enuani) and East of the River Niger who offered stiffer resistance to colonial British than Bini could. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:47pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid: When Wikipedia is your "historical source" then you should have enough shame to never even dream of claiming you know history. You are not even smart enough to know that you are dumb |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 8:48pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: Nah so I see am o! I belong to their Bini forums where I assume silent mode. You need to see what these lots discuss about us. He came here saying that Igbos had disorganized villages and we told him that Igbo disorganized villages were powerful than overrated Bini kingdom going by how easily British conquered Bini and struggled in Enuani and South East. And he started screaming hate message and now calling Mods and Seun. They can't stand facts. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:50pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:The Igbanke themselves are more confused than confused. Look at Igbanke elders speaking Igbo and declaring their people for Biafra and talking about their Igboness. @sufferingboy and @truthshots, what is happening here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XpbkNyeiG8 |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:51pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid: Wow, I actually couldn't care less about your chest beating and fake history, I believe I already made that very clear. I am calling the mods for the hate speech. To you guys hate speech is so natural you don't even see when you are doing it. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:54pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: I can also show you Igbos declaring their chineseness, does that mean Igbos are Chinese. Do these guys represent the people or do the actual monarchs represent the people ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJpWMkzgfdk |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 8:56pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
I can bring out Nigerians claiming to be Germans or claiming to be Russians, does that mean Nigerians are Russians or Germans ? |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 8:58pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:The strong kingdom was destroyed in one week. The kingdom would have been destroyed under hours but the record showed that the stench in the palace deterred them. The account goes thus: "As we neared the city, sacrificed human beings were lying in the path and bush—even in the king's compound the sight and stench of them was awful. . . ." Well, I respect them shaa, but when these people start having these minority complex and breakdown eh, e dey tire person. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 9:01pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots:So, i want to understand one thing, when they addressed the Igbo people, they spoke their mother-tongue but when they wanted to address the king of the 2x2 LGA kingdom, they had to speak English. That means an Anambra man and an Igbanke man can sell the Oba and all his chief right in their front and they will not know. You guys are hilarious. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 9:03pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: Don't let IPOB people deceive you o! One or two IPOB members from Igbanke don't represent majority of Igbanke people. You can search for Igbanke National Progressive Forum on Facebook and follow them there. Its a public group. Don't get trapped in IPOB propaganda. Ndiigbo need to know the raw undiluted truth about these groups. It would save us a lot of pains and future accusations and feelings of betrayal. I can gather few Igbanke people and make video with them claiming they are Igbo and for Biafra, but that would only be self deceit because it would not change the orientation of vast majority of Igbanke people. Imagine IPOB and MNK paid Asari Dokubo millions to accept Biafar tag and train boys for them. And they recruited few hungry Ijaw boys who they take pics with claiming that they are representative of Ijaw and that Ijaws are Biafrans. But I belong to Kalabari, Okrika,Nembe,Opobo, and countless Ijaw forums and I know that vast majority of the people are strongly anti Biafra and Igbophobic. So what IPOB succeeded in doing is selling a lie to Ndiigbo who go about calling a people with Igbophobic mindset brothers. Tell me how exactly this folly help us as a people. What do you stand to gain by raising an Army of ignorant Igbo youth who don't really understand the true nature of the relationship between them and their minorities? Think of the picture of a child playing with fire because those whose job it is to explain to him how harmful fire sold a wrong narrative of fire to him. We must dare to do better. The true nature and relationship between us and these groups must be taught to Igbo youths so that people don't go and foolishly declare a stupid war tomorrow where they would be exposed to true nature of these groups and come back crying sabo and betrayal again. You see IPOB drawing stupid maps where they include these groups in their Utopian Biafra, and you can only shake your head as an Igbo who know better. These actions by IPOB make these already Igbophobic groups more Igbophobic. They feel threatened by IPOB forced unity and the Igbo Youths are sold false narratives of non existing brotherhood with these already aggrieved groups, setting Igbo youths up for future severe backlash. Only the Truth will set us free. 1 Like |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 9:05pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Truthshots:Fake history? This is not the fabricated history your people coin online. You will find these on every British and European library. These are written down history and not oral myths from the Bini palace. 1 Like |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 9:11pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:My question is why you are not even part of IPOB withall your knowledge. Are you working for the government? A rival political group? Why not be a consultant to IPOB with all your knowledge. Whether you like them or not, they are the alternative and undisputed leading voice of the Igbo nation. Ohaneze are a political tool and their agenda is not for the future of the Igbo nation. Yopu and I now that ost Igbo youths or elders do not even care if they exist. As for IPOB, i guess they are using the IYC and INC Method. I have been thinking about it myself, and Igbo alone nation is the best natin. Not a multi-ethnic nation. Even other Pro-Biafra faithful are starting to see the benefits of an Igbo alone nation. |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 9:20pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Vintagepipes: The Binis were selling non Binis among them as slaves in exchange for Manilla whose bronze they melted and used to produce their art works. They were ransacking neighboring groups for slaves including the likes of Ika. That's why many were fleeing Bini. The likes of Awo that founded Abavo was said to be have been taken from his hometown in Western Igboland to Bini as a slave. He was supposed to have been sold as slave or sacrificed to Bini gods, but luckily escaped from Bini to found Abavo. This is why there is this hint of Igbophilia and Biniphobia in Abavo( especially Ekwuoma). But the above version of Awo history, the fact that he was a slave in Bini had long been edited and the current story is that he was a Bini prince. Probably because the people are ashamed of admitting to have been founded by a slave. Ika oral origin stories are full of irrationalities because they are mostly denatured stories made more to soothe the people ego than to actually document true historical events. 1 Like |
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Vintagepipes: 9:31pm On Mar 30, 2021 |
Igboid:No wonder there are a lot of Abavo natives in Igbo group. |
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