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Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:42pm On May 25, 2021
Matthew 19:16-19 (KJV)

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


This is according to Christ's Gospel of Grace.

God bless.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Hashabiah: 8:52pm On May 25, 2021
I do not believe this statement entirely because the man who Jesus was talking to possessed all these qualities . Which is why in a later verse of that chapter , Jesus then said to man " If you want to be perfect, go and sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven ; and come, follow me ". The bolded is a statement for the full requirement to for a believer to see the kingdom of God. In essence, it is a necessity
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:38pm On May 25, 2021
When the gospel of grace which they believed is being proven beyond any shadow by Christ's Gospel of Grace to be Antichrist, they still want to make excuses to justify it, but the Words of Jesus would surely prevail!
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by samuelson06(m): 9:39pm On May 25, 2021
God's Word has been wrapped into one word and that word is love. God is love and he that acts love lives in God and God in him. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love those who don't share the same faith with you. Love genuinely. Love without expectations.

Once you have the love of God in you, every other thing would fall in place. What I mean is that if you love God enough, you won't want to kill, steal, commit adultery, bear false witness, bear grudges, or do anything that's not consistent with what God represent.

So everytime you are confronted with the temptation to act out of order, reflect on your love for God. Walking with God is walking in love. Only love can make you see the kingdom of God.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Jokerman(m): 11:54pm On May 25, 2021
Works of righteousness through Jesus Christ... Without Jesus Christ in you, works of righteousness becomes religion
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 12:20am On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
I do not believe this statement entirely because the man who Jesus was talking to possessed all these qualities . Which is why in a later verse of that chapter , Jesus then said to man " If you want to be perfect, go and sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven ; and come, follow me ". The bolded is a statement for the full requirement to for a believer to see the kingdom of God. In essence, it is a necessity
1. The Kingdom of God consists of two domains- Heaven and Hell. undecided

2. Jesus Christ gave us two parables concerning treasures and Heaven. Two Parables of the Kingdom of Heaven told by Jesus Christ, namely the Parable of the Hidden treasure and the Parable of the Pearl, teach us that only those who give away everything they have, (to the poor- not churches) are worthy of the Heaven.

3. 4 stipulations given by Jesus Christ Christ those who wlll strive to being worthy of Him are as follows...

* Anyone unwilling to hate/abandon father, mother, brother sister, wife, husband, children etc. Is not worthy of Him, Jesus Christ

* Anyone who does not deny self(ego, reputation, career, reputation, family, property etc.,) , to take up his cross is not worthy of Him, Jesus Christ

* Anyone who loves His life and is unwilling to loose it for for His sake is not worthy of Him, Jesus Christ

* Anyone who puts his hand to the plow but looks back is not worthy of Him, Jesus Christ
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by livingchrist: 5:42am On May 26, 2021
No one can be saved by works of righteousness



Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 6:06am On May 26, 2021
livingchrist:
No one can be saved by works of righteousness

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

That's because Salvation(act of being saved from condemnation of sin - Death) only comes in at the point where you are to gain access into the Kingdom of God. Righteousness, and the works associated with it, can and only come after you have entered into the Kingdom, and this through the Narrow gate. undecided
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 6:17am On May 26, 2021
samuelson06:
God's Word has been wrapped into one word and that word is love. God is love and he that acts love lives in God and God in him. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love those who don't share the same faith with you. Love genuinely. Love without expectations.

Once you have the love of God in you, every other thing would fall in place. What I mean is that if you love God enough, you won't want to kill, steal, commit adultery, bear false witness, bear grudges, or do anything that's not consistent with what God represent.

So everytime you are confronted with the temptation to act out of order, reflect on your love for God. Walking with God is walking in love. Only love can make you see the kingdom of God.
That is a severely watered down version of the Gospel and so is nothing but a lie. You need to pay attention when reading the Gospels teachings of Jesus Christ. undecided

Yes, the two greatest commandments state that you love the Lord God with all your heart, mind and soul and that you love your neighbor as you love your own soul. But guess what? These are just the two greatest commandments but not the only 2 commandments. undecided

There are about 54 other commandments contained in the teachings of Jesus Christ of which Jesus Christ also spoke of when He declared that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments - John 15 vs 1 -11. The same Jesus Christ, using the Pharisees as point of reference, warned His followers against the practice of obeying only those commandments which they ascribe greater value to, ignoring those you continue of less importance to you, commanding instead that you practice the former while neglecting the former - Matthew 23 vs 23.

Your works will be judged by the Word of God, the entirely of the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, and it is for your sake that you should endeavor to Know the Truth in its entirety so that the Truth can indeed get you free. undecided
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:09am On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
I do not believe this statement entirely because the man who Jesus was talking to possessed all these qualities . Which is why in a later verse of that chapter , Jesus then said to man " If you want to be perfect, go and sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven ; and come, follow me ". The bolded is a statement for the full requirement to for a believer to see the kingdom of God. In essence, it is a necessity
"If you want to be perfect..." is the answer to the second question. The first question the man asked about what he must do to have eternal had been already answered by Jesus and the man had met that requirement.

You need understanding to be able to comprehend the difference between the two.

If you don't believe what Jesus said, you may have to start asking yourself serious questions about who your Master really is.

God bless.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:16am On May 26, 2021
Jokerman:
Works of righteousness through Jesus Christ... Without Jesus Christ in you, works of righteousness becomes religion
If the bolded is true about the works of righteousness, then such a religion must be a good thing because it's what exalts any nation. It exalted the nation of Nineveh and saved them from destruction. It exalted all those who walked with God in the past because that was what they had before Jesus came, and they all are going to have eternal life regardless.

It's better than what most Christians have today, which is an imaginary belief in Jesus without works of righteousness, because at the end Jesus said "the Son of man would reward every man according to His works".

So if really be religion is, then religion may not be a bad thing after all.

God bless.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:19am On May 26, 2021
livingchrist:
No one can be saved by works of righteousness



Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Someone who thinks he can know better than Jesus who paid the price for man's salvation about what a man must do to have eternal life.

That's expected of a livingAntichrist!
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 7:22am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Matthew 19:16-19 (KJV)

but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.[/color]
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


God bless.

That's was under the law .

But After Jesus died . A new dispensation and a new law came. If you want to be justified by the law you're cursed .

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse . . .


If you want to be justified by the works of the law you are fallen from grace

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:31am On May 26, 2021
petra1:


That's was under the law .

But After Jesus died . A new dispensation and a new law came. If you want to be justified by the law you're cursed .

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse . . .


If you want to be justified by the works of the law you are fallen from grace

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

I'm sure that for the followers of Paul, it's Paul that brought about the new dispensation not Christ who died for man's sins, so he should know better than Jesus about what a man must d.

You don't even know it's the Antichrist' grace you believe in not that which Christ is, and it leads to the pit of hell so it's actually those who believe in such who are cursed. I mean, here's Christ teachings, and you're proudly kicking against it.

In case you didn't know, it was Jesus who paid the price for one's salvation not someone else that said this, and Jesus told His disciples to teach men to observe what He commanded them. Matthew 28:18-19. Therefore any teaching of any of His disciple that contradicted His teachings as the one you quoted should be trashed, because it was not what He commanded them to teach!

A man could only be justified by Christ's gospel of Grace which emphasizes works of righteousness as you've seen once again in His teaching which you're opposed to, not the Antichrist version you preach which undermines it.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 7:45am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
I'm sure that for the followers of Paul, that Paul brought the new dispensation not Christ who died so he should know better than Jesus about what a man must do to be saved.

In case you didn't know, it was Jesus who paid the price for one's salvation not someone else that said this, and Jesus told His disciples to teach men to observe what He commanded them. Matthew 28:18-19. Therefore any teaching of any of His disciple that contradicted His teachings as the one you quoted should be trashed, because it was not what He commanded them to teach!

A man could only be justified by Christ's gospel of Grace which emphasizes works of righteousness as you've seen once again in His teaching which you're opposed to, not the Antichrist version you preach which undermines it.

Was Paul an Apostle of God or not

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Hashabiah: 7:46am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
"If you want to be perfect..." is the answer to the second question. The first question the man asked about what he must do to have eternal had been already answered by Jesus and the man had met that requirement.

You need understanding to be able to comprehend the difference between the two.

If you don't believe what Jesus said, you may have to start asking yourself serious questions about who your Master really is.

God bless.
The bible says " Be ye holy, for I am holy ". This is the definition of perfection. And it is only through perfection and righteousness a man will enter the kingdom of God.

So If you do not know what that means, then you are just peddling another gospel that is contrary
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:58am On May 26, 2021
petra1:


Was Paul an Apostle of God or not
There are many Apostles but one Master. That's Jesus who emphasized the works of righteousness as you've clearly seen.

So if you are opposed to such teachings of His as the Pharisees, then you must be an Antichrist!
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 8:09am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:


So if you are opposed to such teachings of His as the Pharisees, then you must be an Antichrist!

You evaded the question.
Is Paul an Apostle of Christ

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:41am On May 26, 2021
petra1:


You evaded the question.
Is Paul an Apostle of Christ
Okay, I see that you couldn't perceive that i indirectly answered your previous question when I said there are many apostles but just one Christ according to Christ's teachings.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:43am On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
The bible says " Be ye holy, for I am holy ". This is the definition of perfection. And it is only through perfection and righteousness a man will enter the kingdom of God.

So If you do not know what that means, then you are just peddling another gospel that is contrary
For someone who said he didn't "entirely" believe the Gospel of Christ, it should make sense that I would be preaching a different Gospel to that which you believe according to you.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Hashabiah: 9:54am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
For someone who said he didn't "entirely" believe the Gospel of Christ, it should make sense that I would be preaching a different Gospel to that which you believe according to you.
Bros you can lie like Satan. When did I say that? Or do you have a problem with reading and quoting? Kindly tell us so we can know and recommend a specialist

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 10:02am On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
Bros you can lie like Satan. When did I say that? Or do you have a problem with reading and quoting? Kindly tell us so we can know and recommend a specialist
Lol!

Well let's see who the real liar is here. Below are your very own words, so maybe you can tell us whose Statement it was that you didn't "believe entirely". If it was Christ's, that means, you're the real liar here, not me.

Hashabiah:
I do not believe this statement entirely because the man who Jesus was talking to
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Hashabiah: 10:13am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Lol!

Well let's see who the real liar is here. Below are your very own words, so maybe you can tell us whose Statement it was that you didn't "believe entirely". If it was Christ's, that means, you're the real liar here, not me.

For someone who said he didn't "entirely" believe the Gospel of Christ, it should make sense that I would be preaching a different Gospel to that which you believe according to you


The bolded are your words. Now compare them to what I said. Can you see you how well you crafted a lie into what I said? Nice one Satanjnr2020

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 10:53am On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Okay, I see that you couldn't perceive that i indirectly answered your previous question when I said there are many apostles but just one Christ according to Christ's teachings.

Is Paul an Apostle of Christ?

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:09am On May 26, 2021
petra1:


Is Paul an Apostle of Christ?
There are many apostles but one Master.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:36am On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
For someone who said he didn't "entirely" believe the Gospel of Christ, it should make sense that I would be preaching a different Gospel to that which you believe according to you


The bolded are your words. Now compare them to what I said. Can you see you how well you crafted a lie into what I said? Nice one Satanjnr2020
I wouldn't deny my words, because I'm not a liar neither am I ashamed of my words as you are, because I said nothing but the truth.

The statement you said you didn't believe entirely was the Gospel of Jesus, just in case you were ignorant or couldn't comprehend that fact, so if you're ashamed of your own words, then you would have more to be ashamed of when you appear before Christ, if you don't repent.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Hashabiah: 11:39am On May 26, 2021
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jesusjnr2020:
I wouldn't deny my words, because I'm not a liar neither am I ashamed of my words as you are, because I said nothing but the truth.

The statement you said you didn't believe entirely was the Gospel of Jesus, just in case you were ignorant or couldn't comprehend that fact, so if you're ashamed of your own words, then you would have more to be ashamed of when you appear before Christ, if you don't repent.
[/s] You should be ashamed of lying oga. You did not read my post carefully and you foolishly inserted your narrow-minded assumptions just to justify the lies in your first comment, but luckily, God has exposed your mumuness. But carry on with your charades...your bustop is not far from hellfire.

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by samuelson06(m): 11:58am On May 26, 2021
Kobojunkie:
That is a severely watered down version of the Gospel and so is nothing but a lie. You need to pay attention when reading the Gospels teachings of Jesus Christ. undecided

Yes, the two greatest commandments state that you love the Lord God with all your heart, mind and soul and that you love your neighbor as you love your own soul. But guess what? These are just the two greatest commandments but not the only 2 commandments. undecided

There are about 54 other commandments contained in the teachings of Jesus Christ of which Jesus Christ also spoke of when He declared that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments - John 15 vs 1 -11. The same Jesus Christ, using the Pharisees as point of reference, warned His followers against the practice of obeying only those commandments which they ascribe greater value to, ignoring those you continue of less importance to you, commanding instead that you practice the former while neglecting the former - Matthew 23 vs 23.

Your works will be judged by the Word of God, the entirely of the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, and it is for your sake that you should endeavor to Know the Truth in its entirety so that the Truth can indeed get you free. undecided

Look, if you can list all those commandments, I'd show you how you can keep them flawlessly once you can keep the greatest of them, which is love. And you can't keep those commandments consistently without struggles when you can't keep the greatest of them. So, love isn't just one of the commandments, it is the crowning of the commandments.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by petra1(m): 1:35pm On May 26, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
There are many apostles but one Master.

There are false apostles also .

Kindly be honorable enough to say the truth Is Paul apostle of Christ.

Was Paul called by christ

Was Paul sent with message to the Gentiles . I expect a YES or NO

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Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by Kobojunkie: 1:46pm On May 26, 2021
samuelson06:

Look, if you can list all those commandments, I'd show you how you can keep them flawlessly once you can keep the greatest of them, which is love. And you can't keep those commandments consistently without struggles when you can't keep the greatest of them. So, love isn't just one of the commandments, it is the crowning of the commandments.
List them all? Let me give you just a couple and you tell me how you can love your way through the keeping of them

* Be ye holy even as your father in heaven is holy
* When you pray, say the Lord's Prayer
* Avoid Vain repetitions when you pray
* Keep your eyes single
* Avoid the making of oaths, instead let your Yes be Yes and your No be No
* Do not have lustful thoughts
* When your enemy attacks you, do not fight back at all
* Do not give that which is Holy to the dogs or cast your pearls to the pigs
* Strive to enter the Kingdom through the narrow gate and not through the broad gate
* be careful of false prophets and preachers
* Do not call any man "Father" , nor call anyone Teacher, Rabbi, Shepherd(Pastor) or Master
.....
Now , kindly explain to us how you can "love" your way to the keeping of all of these commandments. undecided
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:56pm On May 26, 2021
petra1:


There are false apostles also .

Kindly be honorable enough to say the truth Is Paul apostle of Christ.

Was Paul called by christ

Was Paul sent with message to the Gentiles . I expect a YES or NO
What you should understand is that whether Paul is true or false, it's absolutely of no significance in this case, as there are many true apostles but just one Master.

Even many true apostles were sent to the gentiles, so it's not just Paul as you erroneously think. What all of them have in common is one Master, and the obligation to obey His instructions, which is to teach all men to observe all His commandments as that of this thread which you oppose. So whenever they do the otherwise, it should be clear that the teachings of the Master would prevail over theirs for there's just one Master but many apostles.
Re: Jesus Says We Can Attain Eternal Life By Our Works Of Righteousness by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:58pm On May 26, 2021
Hashabiah:
[s][/s] You should be ashamed of lying oga. You did not read my post carefully and you foolishly inserted your narrow-minded assumptions just to justify the lies in your first comment, but luckily, God has exposed your mumuness. But carry on with your charades...your bustop is not far from hellfire.
lol! Issokay. Thanks.

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