The problem of those churches (Redeem and winners chapel) am sorry to mention names, is expansion and wanting to become the largest worship center in Africa. There's absolutely no need of building churches everywhere, even in the time of Jesus, synagogues are few but today, especially in Nigeria, pastors have turned church buildings to competition. If it's only 10 churches you can build and manage well, then so be it! Building 10thousands churches with the ones already built looks like rubbish to me. Where do you expect to get people to fill those buildings? From another churches? More reason to respect late prophet TB Joshua. That's why I don't give their pastors or members audience anytime they come preaching to me. I cant just imagine someone trying to talk me to come to their church even after I explained that I am a Christian from birth and have my own church. I now see the reason why they're so adamant; they're afraid to be tagged "fruitless" by their employer.

Profayo:
That's more than the minimum wage paid by the Government. And the Government is surely richer than Oyedepo.And he also doesn't owe salaries
But nonentities who are supporting various state governments owing salaries will still come and bash Oyedepo.

Another big Fooo.oool
Who told you people don't bash Government?
People bash anything bashable.
The problem is, you bash Government and worship pastors. That's what makes you an hypocrite.

Dem dey pay you at all and you get mouth dey talk nonsense. Do you know that most of the RCCG pastors are expected to use their resources to grow the church and not paid a dime?
Do you know where and how the money comes from?

You don't want to be sacked, then you are being serviced by members tithe and offering, still you can't add members to keep you in business? Or you are expecting to reap from others hardwork? If everyone become like you, how will you get paid?

Seriously, most of these individuals masquerading around as pastors are a disgrace to humanity. They will not last a month being employed in secular businesses due unproductiveness.

One thing is for sure, oyedepo is an astute businessman. Even though he primarily takes advantage of the inherently ignorant and gullible.

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If you can genuinely prove that you are in the university and that you have fees to pay, I will send you five thousand nairas. Proving will mean formal identification letters from your department, hod and lectures

Universities (private) pay their own graduates who are non administrative staff 30K

Primary and Secondary Schools in different part of Nigeria we even pay below that...

For church...the Pastor gets several gifts from members and so on.

If you are an employer of labour...am sure your sense will tell you not to pay beyond what your company make per month.

Basket mouth...

temitope27:
Oyedepo wish way? Why will you sack someone from Church, if they are nt producing growth u expected is sacking the solution? Are the pastors not church member, u could actually repost them to anoda church under anoda pastor so as to learn and transfer anoda pastor to that church, when you are paying someone as low as that and u expect them to sit in church or go around everywhere 24/7 to improve the church without doing extra job in nt possible, if truly they are doing God work and not urs so u don't any power to sack anyone

Pastor is a calling into the Ministry by God. The issue here, to start with, is to check the calling whether it's from God or as a result of hunger and lack of job.

2ndly, concerning the salaries, how much can you pay a Pastor as monthly salary? #100,000, #150,000 or #200,000?

A genuine pastor is not an ordinary being, he's a spiritual being ordained by God not to lack anything good for God is more than able to supply all his needs.

I'm contributing to the topic from my little experience as a member.

Don't forget that I said genuine pastors are spiritual beings who God will never allowed to lack anything good.

Right from my childhood in my village in Ijebu, I watched my parents taking foodstuffs every now and then to our Reverend house called vicarage.

I grew up with it and I'm doing same to my pastors today. It's a mystery that only a true and dedicated child of God can comprehend.

Pastors are blessed people. The Bible says faithful is he that calleth you for he will do it.

A true pastor is blessed from the north, south, east, and west. He doesn't have to take from the church.

Years back, Living Faith Church leadership had a conference with all pastors and at the conference, salaries of pastors were stopped. Some resigned while others continued without salaries.

Amazingly, God who truly called them was busy blessing them. They never went to bed hungry rather they were changing cars, paying their bills without stress.

The test of stoppage of their salaries took them to another level of glory in the school of kingdom service and the mystery of true riches.

It was a perfect test of their callings for God who actually called them was still with them.

I know this may not sound right to some on this platform but I tell you, it's mystery that not all will ever understand how it works.

Then after some months the salaries were not only restored but also increased.

Let me tell you, a true and dedicated pastor in the vineyard of God would never come on line to nairaland or Sahara reporter to complain knowing fully well that anything Oyedepo attracts all manners of critics which doesn't amount to anything anyway.

Today in the secular world, we see where staff are paid half salaries even some laid off. We've seen this in organizations and government establishments.

Finally, pastor is a calling by God and not by stomach or challenges of life.

Lolz wolf in sheep's coverings, The true God will keep revealing them

Commentor:


Can you provide any document that supports yours?

I'll provide what I can find.

I gave you a reference on the internet already

Provide yours

OneKinGuy:
After collecting hundreds of millions in tithes & other stuffs.

Tomorrow somone will open their mouth and invite me to come church

RUBBISH!

Go to HELL! Carry your calculator and press 40 thousand naira times 7 thousand pastors then know how much he pays out monthly without owing or delaying. Which of his branches do you think is the source of such amount? If you no go church na me you do? Lol

Profayo:
That's more than the minimum wage paid by the Government. And the Government is surely richer than Oyedepo.And he also doesn't owe salaries
But nonentities who are supporting various state governments owing salaries will still come and bash Oyedepo.

Just see ya rotten mouth. Una go come for social media open mouth waaaaaa like foul nyashh

BafanaBafana:
Because the pastors are expected to attract money to themselves.
It's like marketing businesses, they pay you small, then you earn the rest yourself. That's why as a pastor, you are supposed to have charisma to attract members. The members bring the money

Wow.. Tell me something. You didn't tell me church is now networking business.

Ogaga87:
People trying to dig and make words out of the sacking which took place recently but when I see anything that comes between God and man, I flee from being the judge. Who gave me the right of a judge over the affairs of God and man.. T. B Joshua just left and one day we'll go as well.. Let's be careful of our utterance before we experience the situation of Martha, sister of Moses..

That is the problem.. we give so called men of God a free pass so they get emboldened in their evil.
As Christians, it's time we start discussing these issues and holding these men accountable.
I am not saying winners Chapel is guilty, I don't have all the facts to judge but I am saying we should not keep quiet.
We need to ask questions.

Profayo:
That's more than the minimum wage paid by the Government. And the Government is surely richer than Oyedepo.And he also doesn't owe salaries
But nonentities who are supporting various state governments owing salaries will still come and bash Oyedepo.

May God not make you are employer of labour.
You would kill people.
For your education, that is less than the national wage. The federal government does not pay minimum wage to graduates. Even local government does not pay 38k to graduates.

ChiefSosa:
#38,000 in a month! Yet, they'll still pay tithes, offerings, etc How much money will then be left for them to take care of themselves and families? I never knew pastors were meant to collect salaries, I thought they were doing the Lord's work? You no suppose collect salary, yet dem still sack you.
Will Oyedepo be happy or quiet if he was getting #38K per month??
Or is Oyedepo a_PIMP?

He is just a crook.

BePrepared:


I pity anyone paying attention to u

U don't even know the method for science and argument.

Even the best scientist won't tell you that something doesn't exist RATHER we have not gotten evidence for this and so base on evidence at hand now it is plausible that so so and so can't be proved now. But Nigerian atheist just copy copy that they can't copy well.

Receive sense

If u die in this state ur two eye go open

If I die in this state, nothing would happen. There is no rapture, judgment day or whatever. You guy’s keep basing you claim on speculation, no proof whatsoever. Show me proof that Jesus is waiting for you on the other side, then I would take you seriously.

Y’all cannot just think for yourselves for once because you pastor or bible said this and that. No capacity for objective thing. No wonder you believe some white guy with flowing hair, in flowing white robe would come down on a horse and take you to a place where you would sing hallelujah forever. Tell me what makes you different from those who think there are virgins waiting for them when they die. Rubbish

CodeTemplar:

How many advancements did your faithless forefathers recorded? Be talking nonsense there.
God did not ask Christians or people not to work. In fact work was man's primary assignment in the garden of Eden before the fall. Our problem is too much shortcut and witchcraft mentality which are direct outcome of unrenewed minds. God did not ask us to fast for fast cars or pray for them. You are to work on something that will meet the needs of other then exchange it for what others have have that you are in need of. Praying for Lexus gift is like witchcraft.

There was no garden of eden or did you not read what I wrote properly? Do your research and show me proof of where Adam and Eve were naked and talking to a snake and i would show you proof that a white guy in flowing hair and white robes would come down and save you some day. Nonsense!

Black people no just get sense for head. Carry believe another man history say na dia religion.

I have said it before and will still say it again,



CHURCH IS A SCAM AND RELIGION IS WICKED,


The architect if african under development and misfortune.


When shall we embrace God and leave the church business for the business men parading themselves as men of God.


It's a pity!!!!!!!

Ogaga87:
People trying to dig and make words out of the sacking which took place recently but when I see anything that comes between God and man, I flee from being the judge. Who gave me the right of a judge over the affairs of God and man.. T. B Joshua just left and one day we'll go as well.. Let's be careful of our utterance before we experience the situation of Martha, sister of Moses..

The fake ones are easy to know.

TB Joshua, Iginla, Fufeyin, Chris Okafor, Indaboski and many others depends on power gotten from Satan.

Oyedepo (who replaced Idahosa) and his sons are intelligent motivational speakers using Bible as references. They read many motivational books and link them with Bible verses.

In all, any gospel that spent most of its time teaching you on how to dominate the earth is fake.

The true gospel teaches you about reconciling the world to God starting from you yourself being in Christ truly, knowing fully well that Jesus Christ is coming again. This world is a transit to eternity in Christ Jesus or hell fire.

Anyone, who leaves emphasis on Christ and starts to dwell on miracles and how you will dominate the earth is only massaging your itchy ears.

Bro. those who reads Bible well and are not "my pastor said" Christians knows that Martha wasn't Moses Sister.

Please go back to exodus to correct this.
I know the name, but want you to use this opportunity to open your Bible again.

freshalien:


I used to be a seminarian, studied philosophy and the theology of the Catholic church. I did make it into the Vatican Library. How else do you think I know the bible is full of cooked-up stories by the Jews. This is why I said educate yourself; look beyond the Jesus that was sold to your ancestors and passed down to you. Christianity and especially the Catholic church that started it all, is completely full of shiit.

Also, there is no Jesus, no rapture, no judgment day. All stories. My soul needs no saving by some fantasy, long-haired white dude.

Look man, i am not a minor nor a toddler. Vatican Library is one of the most restricted places on earth....who will give a Bishop an easy clearance into the Library talk more of a mere Seminarian like you which u claim to be, i doubt you were even a Seminarian. Man, you used to be nothing, and you are still nothing. Infact, your claims of having made it into the Vatican Library convinces me that you are nothing but a delusional troll.....

OneKinGuy:
After collecting hundreds of millions in tithes & other stuffs.

Tomorrow somone will open their mouth and invite me to come church

RUBBISH!

Stay in your home even with your tithes and offerings, and watch if the church of God will miss you.

Remember the gate of hell shall not prevail against His church.

That is their basic salary. They get a huge percentage of the weekly tithes and offerings, gifts from members, church accommodation and other allowances. If you sum everything, their monthly pay is far higher than what most companies in Lekki/ VI (Lagos) are paying their graduates monthly. How much most of them pay now be 70k-100k? If you know, you know.

That is their basic salary. They get a huge percentage of the weekly tithes and offerings, gifts from members, church accommodation and other allowances. If you sum everything, their monthly pay is far higher than what most companies in Lekki / VI (Lagos) are paying their graduates monthly. How much most of them pay now be 70k-100k? If you know, you know.

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Tareq1105:


Stay in your home even with your tithes and offerings, and watch if the church of God will miss you.

Remember the gate of hell shall not prevail against His church.

imagine what a grown up is saying