the reason for this my question is as a result of a lady that i met she said she wanted to teach or train me how to be speaking in tongue, so i was disturbed on whether speaking in tongues is gift from God or they receive training as claimed by this lady.

So bible scholars, share your opinion on this because she is seriously disturbing me.

I'm not in anyway trying to contradict anybody, but as far as i know. Speaking in tougue is the gift of the Holy Spirit. It can't be learned.

If she comes to you again. You tell her that speaking in tougue isn't learned but a gift of the Spirit. And if she is doubting, refer her to 1 cor 12:4-11. Na there story go finish. If e no wan end there, LET ME KNOW.

Cudeze4:
I'm not in anyway trying to contradict anybody, but as far as i know. Speaking in tougue is the gift of the Holy Spirit. It can't be learned.

Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.

My brother , you must understand that speaking in tongues is a gift from God through the Holy Spirit . And it is only God that can teach and give it to a man .

Secondly, it is always spoken in language that can be deciphered and interpreted by other believers (read the book of Acts for better understanding) . So in essence, nobody can teach it to you . And for those ministers that keep chanting gibberish, may God help them

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Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not spea[/quote
Now brother you have said you have said your mind. Please can you put all this thing you said now in simple words, because i've not gotten what u r saying

Some churches have made jest ofthe situation.

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It isn't for overly brainwashed people tho.

See, if you go through the bible verse i mentioned earlier. You'll see that speaking in tougues is a gift of the spirit. And there is also what they call the understanding of tougues, which also is the gift of the spirit. So you see you don't learn it in order to avoid speaking gibberish as you call it.
If you are speaking a tougues that you learn. That means you don't need to be in the spirit at that moment, that one is not speaking in tougue, that one is talking.

seglabsy:
the reason for this my question is as a result of a lady that i met she said she wanted to teach or train me how to be speaking in tongue,so i was disturbed on whether speaking in tongues is gift from God or they receive training as claimed by this lady,so bible scholar share your opinion on this because she is seriously disturbing me.

Tongues always means languages; real languages eg urhobo, Efik, french etc hence why we say Native Tongue!

chatinent:



It isn't for overly brainwashed people tho.

So you are saying that speaking in tougues should be learned? I won't blame you much though it must be what you were brought up with.

seglabsy:
the reason for this my question is as a result of a lady that i met she said she wanted to teach or train me how to be speaking in tongue,so i was disturbed on whether speaking in tongues is gift from God or they receive training as claimed by this lady,so bible scholar share your opinion on this because she is seriously disturbing me.

Run for your dear life!

The gift itself is not Under human control and certainly cannot be learned. Jesus Christ said in Mark 16 vs 15- 17, that those who believe in Him will speak in new tongue- tongues which they were not trained in. Anyone attempting to teach you a tongue is a liar where Jesus Christ is concerned.

Dtruthspeaker:


Tongues always means languages; real languages eg urhobo, Efik, french etc hence why we say Native Tongue!

True. But what are you saying in essence. Learned or gift of the spirit?

Cudeze4:

So you are saying that speaking in tougues should be learned? I won't blame you much though it must be what you were brought up with.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said such.

chatinent:


Don't put words in my mouth. I never said such.

That's why i told you to expanciate your point in simple words. So what are you saying?

Cudeze4:

True. But what are you saying in essence. Learned or gift of the spirit?

That is the spirit of linguists. Lots of people do not have the capability of quickly assimilating languages but the among the people who are gifted in the tongue, they would almost learn a new language overnight.

chatinent:

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said such.

OK. I think i get your point now.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the spirit of linguists. Lots of people do not have the capability of quickly assimilating languages but the among the people who are gifted in the tongue, they would almost learn a new language overnight.

So..... I am yet to understand.

Ammishaddai:
My brother , you must understand that speaking in tongues is a gift from God through the Holy Spirit . And it is only God that can teach and give it to a man .

And secondly, it is always spoken in language that can be deciphered and interpreted by other believers (read the book of Acts for better understanding) . So in essence, nobody can teach it to you . And for those ministers that keep chanting gibberish, may God help them

The gift from God does not suggest that you are taught the new tongue... more like the words are spoken through you.

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Kobojunkie:
The gift from God does not suggest that you are taught the new tongue... more like the words are spoken through you.

[/s] Irrelevant comment to the topic

Cudeze4:

So..... I am yet to understand.

Hmm! Have you not seen people who "automatically" speak the languages of the places they have lived in? Even in nysc, before they conclude the program, they have already learnt the language of their place of posting.

These are the people God gave the gift of the Tongue for, as Paul, they can preach to a diverse group of people in any locality.

Most people are not as they are, they mostly speak one language and when they are taught a foreign tongue, it is very difficult for them to learn.

But these linguists learn it in a blink of an eye.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Irrelevant comment to the topic

Oh it is quite relevant!

The one who is 'has' the gift is untrained, and instead is a channel through which the words are spoken. One shouldn't confuse this with the speaker having some semblance of control over the phenomenon or 'gifts.

Kobojunkie:
Oh it is quite relevant!

As far as this thread is concerned, it ain't relevant. And besides, you're a JW and speaking in tongues doesn't happen in your occultic gatherings because you chaps reject the entire concept . Now move along

Ammishaddai:
As far as this thread is concerned, it ain't relevant. And besides, you're a JW and speaking in tongues doesn't happen to your occultic gatherings do the entire concept is foreign to your kind

It is very relevant!

The one who is 'has' the gift is untrained, and instead is a channel through which the words are spoken. One shouldn't confuse this with the speaker having some semblance of control over the phenomenon or 'gifts.

Kobojunkie:
It is very relevant!

The one who is 'has' the gift is untrained, and instead is a channel through which the words are spoken. One shouldn't confuse this with the speaker having some semblance of control over the phenomenon or 'gifts.

Kobo, you don't speak in tongues so you have no idea what it means . Secondly , you can't speak in tongues without the Holy Spirit . And as it stands you have neither of these

Ammishaddai:
Kobo, you don't speak in tongues so you have no idea what it means . Secondly , you can't speak in tongues without the Holy Spirit . And as it stands you have neither of these

How do you know I don't speak in tongues?

First and foremost, Jesus Christ never said only those who have the Holy Spirit can speak in tongues. No, He said it is a sign of those who believe and last I checked not all those who believe have the Spirit of God - only those who are Holy can house the Spirit of God aka Holy Spirit.

Second, how do you know I don't have the Holy Spirit living inside of me?

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Kobojunkie:
How do you know I don't speak in tongues?

First and foremost, Jesus Christ never said only those who have the Holy Spirit can speak in tongues. No, He said it is a sign of those who believe and last I checked not all those who believe have the Spirit of God - only those who are Holy can house the Spirit of God aka Holy Spirit.

Second, how do you know I don't have the Holy Spirit living inside of me?

[/s] Kobo, you don't speak in tongues ( because that's typical for all JWs ).

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Kobo, you don't speak in tongues ( because that's typical for all JWs ).

Learn the Truth of Jesus Christ taught so you can speak intelligently as one who claims to follow Him.

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Kobojunkie:
Learn the Truth of Jesus Christ taught so you can speak intelligently as one who claims to follow Him.

[/s] The truth is that you don't speak in tongues and neither do you have the Holy Spirt . Case closed

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] The truth is that you don't speak in tongues and neither do you have the Holy Spirt . Case closed

I already explained to you that your opinion and hence your truth means nothing to me.

Kobojunkie:
Learn the Truth of Jesus Christ taught so you can speak intelligently as one who claims to follow Him.

Kobojunkie:
I already explained to you that your opinion and hence your truth means nothing to me.

So why are you replying my messages ?

Ammishaddai:
So why are you replying my messages ?

This..Learn the Truth of Jesus Christ taught so you can speak intelligently as one who claims to follow Him
My job here is to preach the Truth of Jesus Christ.