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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:05am On Mar 26, 2022
Well, Eguavoen felt that at the AFCON we had the missing links in Osimhen, Dennis and Ighalo. And on their return his philosophy will yield fruits regardless of the strategy of the opponent. I hope he has now seen the light.

Cc 13large

benji93:
He actually changed it, yet someone here said he should have stuck to the 4 2 4 formation. It's easy to say that after the fact. Very wonderful suggestion grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ABIODUN105(m): 12:05am On Mar 26, 2022
leathalbeast:
u need a good formation and good tactics to win a game, the nigerian team hasnt changed at all from their match against tunisia at afcon, u saw how we were shooting outside the box ? Expect more of that in abuja.
Shooting outside the box with no goal to show for it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 12:06am On Mar 26, 2022
charlesemeka85:
iheanacho na waste pipe I swear
And Simon that missed a chance for his assist is what?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by leathalbeast: 12:06am On Mar 26, 2022
ABIODUN105:
Shooting outside the box with no goal to show for it
make sure ur oyibo keeper plays in the return leg, you will see the difference
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:07am On Mar 26, 2022
benji93:
You too don come ooo. Nwakali? You know say that young man don play for us before? Are we talking about the same Etebo?

When concerns are on the game of passing, Nwakali and Etebo are the best that we have now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:08am On Mar 26, 2022
Joezinho:


Eguavoen is an extension of Rohr. He needs to play to our strength, formation wise.

Sticking to this 424/442 doesn't work for our players and is easy to figure out...

4-4-2 is not the problem but our playing style. We are really suffering from poor buildup plays.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:09am On Mar 26, 2022
Even Eguavoen is better than Rohr. At least he makes subs in a timely manner.

safarigirl:
Genuine question please, was Rohr a better coach than Keshi?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:11am On Mar 26, 2022
benji93:
No, if you like passing philosophy, that is you. Don't impose that on us. cheesy


It is not about my likes but the direction football is going. The possessive style is the most successful in recent years. It is successful because of how effective it is.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 12:11am On Mar 26, 2022
13large:


I hope you realize that all it takes to defeat us in a 424 formation is to crowd your midfield and hope for a Fortuitous chance. Tunisia and CAR has already shown the blue print
How sure are you the blueprint will work on Tuesday as it didn't work today?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 12:11am On Mar 26, 2022
Great, unfortunately, they are average. So their passing would still suck. Philosophies are nice and indicate you know what you are doing, but they are useless anyway. Your philosophy is only as good as your players.
Meliforme:


When concerns are on the game of passing, Nwakali and Etebo are the best that we have now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:13am On Mar 26, 2022
Joebie:
Even Eguavoen is better than Rohr. At least he makes subs in a timely manner.


LOL

A veteran Super Eagles follower declared Rohr as our best coach in 20 years

I argued that record for record, Rohr is not even better than Keshi, and he decides to call me unintelligent amongst other things.

Yet, at no point did he mention how Rohr was better than Keshi. He mentioned that the team was in shambles from 2014-2017 and how we did not qualify for AFCON, but Keshi left the job during the qualifiers in 2014.

He even mentioned that Rohr has helped bring up players from the youth team, citing Osimhen, and I countered that Kelechi, Omeruo, Ndidi and co, are also graduates of the youth team.

Anyway, dem don insult me for Twitter because of Keshi and Rohr today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:16am On Mar 26, 2022
Ghanaians na lowlifes oooo

See as them Dey celebrate a draw at their home like say dem win us? cheesy cheesy cheesy

Chai, inferiority complex is real I swear

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 12:16am On Mar 26, 2022
safarigirl:
Semid4lyfe, where you dey? People don dey run mad for this thread, bring rope come tie them abeg, before dem enter market.


I've dealt with the disturbances.

Just returning from EaglesTracker live on IG.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:17am On Mar 26, 2022
kingphilip:

And Simon that missed a chance for his assist is what?
that was his only contribution in the game

An aribo in his position would hv done better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:18am On Mar 26, 2022
semid4lyfe:


I've dealt with the disturbances.

Just returning from EaglesTracker live on IG.




Thank you for your service
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 12:18am On Mar 26, 2022
charlesemeka85:
go and get the cd and keep on rewatching it na cheesy
Or make him meet your guy Basco
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:18am On Mar 26, 2022
cheesy
kingphilip:

Or make him meet your guy Basco
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:19am On Mar 26, 2022
benji93:
Great, unfortunately, they are average. So their passing would still suck. Philosophies are nice and indicate you know what you are doing, but they are useless anyway. Your philosophy is only as good as your players.


Actually, what a good passing philosophy does is to improve the movement of players and improve their decision making with the ball which makes them play better.

So it is more than just having the right players for it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 12:19am On Mar 26, 2022
Joebie:
You people should stop talking about draw in Abuja.. We will win there.. There is no way our forwards will have no answers over two legs. Tufiakwa, with Amuneke in the coaching crew?

Amuneke is in the same whatsapp group with Eguavoen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 12:20am On Mar 26, 2022
You this man, Guardiola don full your head. Beautiful. if you want us to institute your philosophy beg Guardiola to borrow us his players. If you can do that i would be fully behind you. I love the passing Philosophy too, i was so much in awe of that 2009-2012 team Barcelona under Guardiola(the first time you succeed at something is usually the most memorable) even though I am not a Barcelona fan. It would be incredible if you can establish it. For instance, Bielsa tries to do it too, but his team keeps leaking goals from one game to another, and Bielsa is even more faithful to that Philosophy than Guardiola. Even if they are 6 goals down, he would not relent.
TheGoodJoe:


It is not about my likes but the direction football is doing. The possessive style is the most successful in recent years. It is successful because of how effective it is.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:20am On Mar 26, 2022
You guys should stop blaming Simon and Chukwueze. They will do zilch without a supportive midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:21am On Mar 26, 2022
Meliforme:


Take it or leave it we might lose, i saw that in this game, but this is not what i want. Football is a game of tactics. It is understanding your weaknesses and the opponent's weakness.

I have been talking so much about our poor decision making and poor composition of play. Eguavoen's system made it worse The Ghanaian coach probably knew this and used high pressing to force us into errors. For instance, how can Ekong deliver his long balls when he is under pressure. But i tell you this, this Ghanaian squad are poor tools for high pressing.
A sound coach will deal with them.

Bros loosen up. It was an away game. We didn't even play up to this when we played Sierra Leone and Cape Verde away.

Yes, upsets happen in football just like we saw Macedonia beat Italy. But going into that game in Abuja, Nigeria are favorites to win it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Arizoner: 12:23am On Mar 26, 2022
Moses Simon is a useless player

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:23am On Mar 26, 2022
Why is nobody talking about that biased referee

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 12:24am On Mar 26, 2022
13large:


It’s not even about being world class but football basics. The guy a clinical finisher and can occasionally assist. But, his football basics is atrocious

100% fact!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:25am On Mar 26, 2022
benji93:
You this man, Guardiola don full your head. Beautiful. if you want us to institute your philosophy beg Guardiola to borrow us his players. If you can do that i would be fully behind you. I love the passing Philosophy too, i was so much in awe of that 2009-2012 team Barcelona under Guardiola(the first time you succeed at something is usually the most memorable) even though I am not a Barcelona fan. It would be incredible if you can establish it. For instance, Bielsa tries to do it too, but his team keeps leaking goals from one game to another, and Bielsa is even more faithful to that Philosophy than Guardiola. Even if they are 6 goals down, he would not relent.

That is because Bielsa was up against Masters of the passing philosophy too.

Guardiola
Klopp
Potter
Eddie Howe
Viera
Arteta
Tuchel
Conte
Hassenhutl
Gerard
And others.

The world is moving towards the passing game. It is not about players alone but adopting the ideas.

To play the game, it takes teaching the players to abide to the building blocks of it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 12:26am On Mar 26, 2022
AE's subs at a point started looking amateurish.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:29am On Mar 26, 2022
elunico:
AE's subs at a point started looking amateurish.
hmmm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:32am On Mar 26, 2022
elunico:
AE's subs at a point started looking amateurish.


Like Joebie said,

At least he dey sub. If na Rohr now, we for dey wait till 80 minutes for the first sub, by then Ghana for don score two.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 12:32am On Mar 26, 2022
There's only so much you can do to improve movement, if the players themselves are not constantly required to make such movements at their clubs where they play regularly, it would be impractical to think it would work when you call them to play for their national teams. And ofcourse you could say, i told you so, our players are not so technical, which i will admit into evidence for this one. cheesy. It won't be instinctual, and they would very likely fail in their attempt to do it. In your assumption that it improves movement, you are forgetting the fact that, for places where this has been successful, the players have always been very technical, and they can make such movements with no problems. They could try it, and it may work for a few passes but then they get stuck, without that high technical ability, you crawl back into the hit-and-run shell.
TheGoodJoe:


Actually, what a good passing philosophy does is to improve the movement of players and improve their decision making with the ball which makes them play better.

So it is more than just having the right players for it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 12:37am On Mar 26, 2022
Is there anything a local coach does that's not amateurish? Can they ever do anything right? Even Keshi was amateurish too, even though he actually won. I am still waiting for a coach that would do better than that man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:39am On Mar 26, 2022
benji93:
There's only so much you can do to improve movement, if the players themselves are not constantly required to make such movements at their clubs where they play regularly, it would be impractical to think it would work when you call them to play for their national teams. And ofcourse you could say, i told you so, our players are not so technical, which i will admit into evidence for this one. cheesy. It won't be instinctual, and they would very likely fail in their attempt to do it. In your assumption that it improves movement, you are forgetting the fact that, for places where this has been successful, the players have always been very technical, and they can make such movements with no problems. They could try it, and it may work for a few passes but then they get stuck, without that high technical ability, you crawl back into the hit-and-run shell.

The Ghanaian team was more versed in the possessive play, especially in the first half and Addo spent days with them. This is not rocket science, or you must have David Silva or Bernardo Silva in your team.

You train the team in the basics of the philosophy. Then keep building in the understanding of it. We have seen teams like Swansea and some other small teams in England adopt it.

We have teams all over the world adopting it.

Even the Ghanaian team played it to an okay level.

We should stop the excuses and start developing our ideas in the passing game and make just philosophical adjustments.

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