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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 10:57pm On Jul 30, 2022
topsy23:


I need to understand how many lighting point you proposed for each room sitting room, kitchen, etc to know the quantity

4 POP lights for the rooms and kitchen and chandelier for the master's, then 2 wall lights (placed in the middle/one side of the wall), 8 POP lights and 2 chandeliers for the sitting room. (Not forgetting the ashawo led strip light for sitting room and master's)

Do you think using just POP/ceiling lights is good?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 11:20pm On Jul 30, 2022
ArcToyin:


It can even contain 3 bed. Just mention what you want and let's see if we can work it out.

Did you see the S in the flats? He intends to built more than one.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by horlorbah(m): 1:00am On Jul 31, 2022
Good morning everyone. Please can someone help me with the current prices of this woods.
2*4
2*3
2*2
2*6
1*10

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 1:36am On Jul 31, 2022
bobkezel:

Pls can you explain to us why option A is better....
Something smells fishy....

A thoroughbred tradesman has industry connections the end user doesn't have

Option A helps his maximize his expertise and connections

He will get the materials at prices the end user can never get

He can maximize his gain by leveraging the above

He will work on your project with a better frame of mind than if Option 2 were deployed

End user wanna play smart?

Cool!

Tradesman can play that game too!

At the end of the day, it is an information differential that makes most trades possible

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:38am On Jul 31, 2022
FEGEITOK:


A thoroughbred tradesman has industry connections the end user doesn't have

Option A helps his maximize his expertise and connections

He will get the materials at prices the end user can never get

He can maximize his gain by leveraging the above

He will work on your project with a better frame of mind than if Option 2 were deployed

End user wanna play smart?

Cool!

Tradesman can play that game too!

At the end of the day, it is an information differential that makes most trades possible
Makes sense but I think the bolded is not necessary, sounds like dishonesty.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dbshaywhy(m): 7:05am On Jul 31, 2022
MrOkenwa:

They're still there.
They're doing a neat job though but the person that took the job doesn't stay in the site on most days. He left 3 guys there. I won't recommend him please.
Aiit boss... Will seek elsewhere
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abuiltech(m): 7:10am On Jul 31, 2022
redgem:
Good evening Bosses....please help me review these quotations for piping of a 3 bedroom bungalow (plumbing and electrical).
4 AC units (1 each room & 1 for parlour)
2 Water heaters (2 rooms to 1heater)
The picture is for plumbing and the write up below is for electrical piping.

2 bundle of 20mm uk pip
1 bundle 25mm UK pip
1 highbridge 12ways neb
1 pcs of 6*6 England
6 pack of 3*3 England
6 pack of 3*6 England
1 pack of ubox dignity
1 pack of ybox dignity
1 pack of 20mm Copp dignity
1 pack of 25mm Copp dignity


The prices in the above list is fair enough, from the prices, it seems he's using light pipe, pls ask, more so tell him to use 50mm pipe for waste pipe instead 40mm there's no much difference in their prices,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingdemu: 7:23am On Jul 31, 2022
bobkezel:
N3xt is not my friend and I dissociate myself with his fraudulent activities.....
But.... He is one guy that has a wealth of knowledge, asks a lot of questions and provide many mysterious answers where necessary.
I actually miss him here....
I wish he could do the needful and come back...
I thought I was the only one missing N3xt. The thread has become uninteresting with lots and lots of unanswered questions which the guy could've done justice to. Wish he'll settle his gbese and hop back in.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingsman042: 7:34am On Jul 31, 2022
Good morning everyone. I hope we are all doing well!

I’m about to start build 6 flats of 2 bedroom in Enugu, Nigeria and below is my engineer’s estimate for foundation, could you guys please analyse it and tell me if it’s too much and advise on what to remove or how much to negotiate for labour and supervision for example and if materials are too much or not… I will really appreciate it.

This is just for foundation.

S/N MATERIAL QTY UNIT PRICE AMOUNT
1 BLOCKS 4000 pcs 230 N920 000
2 SHARP SAND 7 trips N15000 N105 000
3 CEMENT 250 bags N3800 N950 000
4 GRANITE 5 trips N90000 N450 000
5 FILLING SAND 40 trips N15000 N600 000
6 BINDING WIRE 2 rolls N14000 N28 000
7 3" NAILS 2 bags N13000 N26 000
8 2" NAILS 1 bag N13000 N13 000
9 16MM ROD 50 lengths N7300 N365 000
10 12MM ROD 120 lengths N4350 N522 000
11 8MM ROD 30 lengths N2200 N66 000
12 10MM ROD 70 lengths N3800 N266 000
13 6MM ROD 1 bundle N45000 N45 000
14 ROPE 4 pcs N150 600
15 PEGS 4 bundles N800 3 200
16 2x2x12 50 lengths N300 N15 000
17 1x2x12 90 lengths N1200 N108 000

LABOUR N1 000 000
SUPERVISION N250 000
TOTAL N5, 732 , 800
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 8:15am On Jul 31, 2022
kingsman042:
Good morning everyone. I hope we are all doing well!

I’m about to start build 6 flats of 2 bedroom in Enugu, Nigeria and below is my engineer’s estimate for foundation, could you guys please analyse it and tell me if it’s too much and advise on what to remove or how much to negotiate for labour and supervision for example and if materials are too much or not… I will really appreciate it.

This is just for foundation.

S/N MATERIAL QTY UNIT PRICE AMOUNT
1 BLOCKS 4000 pcs 230 N920 000
2 SHARP SAND 7 trips N15000 N105 000
3 CEMENT 250 bags N3800 N950 000
4 GRANITE 5 trips N90000 N450 000
5 FILLING SAND 40 trips N15000 N600 000
6 BINDING WIRE 2 rolls N14000 N28 000
7 3" NAILS 2 bags N13000 N26 000
8 2" NAILS 1 bag N13000 N13 000
9 16MM ROD 50 lengths N7300 N365 000
10 12MM ROD 120 lengths N4350 N522 000
11 8MM ROD 30 lengths N2200 N66 000
12 10MM ROD 70 lengths N3800 N266 000
13 6MM ROD 1 bundle N45000 N45 000
14 ROPE 4 pcs N150 600
15 PEGS 4 bundles N800 3 200
16 2x2x12 50 lengths N300 N15 000
17 1x2x12 90 lengths N1200 N108 000

LABOUR N1 000 000
SUPERVISION N250 000
TOTAL N5, 732 , 800

I don't know the terrain of where you intend to build but I think 4000blocks is way too much for a 2bedroom block of flat (2 flats on the ground floor).

5trips of granite? How many tons per Trip? If his estimate is 10tons per Trip then that won't be enough for the foundation works.

He quoted 16mm,12mm,10mm,8mm,6mm. Nawao. I hope you have a structural design for this project, the sizes and numbers of reinforcement should be based on the structural design. The reinforcement quantity is inflated and I don't see the need for 8mm,6mm,10mm all at the same time. Get advise from a quantity surveyor biko.

Laterite of 40trips is Seems much, though depends on the height of the foundation you intend to build.

Labour and supervision charges looks okay but you can negotiate a little for it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingsman042: 8:19am On Jul 31, 2022
UC92:


I don't know the terrain of where you intend to build but I think 4000blocks is way too much for a 2bedroom block of flat (2 flats on the ground floor).

5trips of granite? How many tons per Trip? If his estimate is 10tons per Trip then that won't be enough for the foundation works.

He quoted 16mm,12mm,10mm,8mm,6mm. Nawao. I hope you have a structural design for this project, the sizes and numbers of reinforcement should be based on the structural design. The reinforcement quantity is inflated and I don't see the need for 8mm,6mm,10mm all at the same time. Get advise from a quantity surveyor biko.

Laterite of 40trips is Seems much, though depends on the height of the foundation you intend to build.

Labour and supervision charges looks okay but you can negotiate a little for it.

Thanks so much boss. Please are you a quantity surveyor or know any good one?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 8:24am On Jul 31, 2022
kingsman042:


Thanks so much boss. Please are you a quantity surveyor or know any good one?
I am not one.
Good morning sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingsman042: 8:28am On Jul 31, 2022
UC92:

I am not one.
Good morning sir.

Thanks for your reply boss.

Please I’m searching for a good quantity surveyor preferably based in the East
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:37am On Jul 31, 2022
UC92:


I don't know the terrain of where you intend to build but I think 4000blocks is way too much for a 2bedroom block of flat (2 flats on the ground floor).

5trips of granite? How many tons per Trip? If his estimate is 10tons per Trip then that won't be enough for the foundation works.

He quoted 16mm,12mm,10mm,8mm,6mm. Nawao. I hope you have a structural design for this project, the sizes and numbers of reinforcement should be based on the structural design. The reinforcement quantity is inflated and I don't see the need for 8mm,6mm,10mm all at the same time. Get advise from a quantity surveyor biko.

Laterite of 40trips is Seems much, though depends on the height of the foundation you intend to build.

Labour and supervision charges looks okay but you can negotiate a little for it.
The 40 trips of filling sand should tell you that it’s a high foundation and most likely in a slope. Therefore, he might need up to 4000 blocks.
But for the rods, too many different sizes, except they plan on having some in the German floor.
The trip if granite is definitely 10 tons considering the price on that list. It might not even be enough.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:39am On Jul 31, 2022
kingsman042:


Thanks so much boss. Please are you a quantity surveyor or know any good one?

Cc qsfemi
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingsman042: 8:51am On Jul 31, 2022
sonnie10:

The 40 trips of filling sand should tell you that it’s a high foundation and most likely in a slope. Therefore, he might need up to 4000 blocks.
But for the rods, too many different sizes, except they plan on having some in the German floor.
The trip if granite is definitely 10 tons considering the price on that list. It might not even be enough.

Thanks a lot for your comment my brother.

The list is for foundation to German floor
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingsman042: 8:52am On Jul 31, 2022
twinskenny:


Cc qsfemi

I will write him now thanks so much
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 9:10am On Jul 31, 2022
kingsman042:


Thanks a lot for your comment my brother.

The list is for foundation to German floor
Another thing, why is he charging separately for labor and then supervision? They should be together since he is the one handling all that.
He might come back to tell you that labor money is all spent and that you should add more.

A better approach is to draw a contract for building up to foundation level . Let him state his price and deal with the labor payment. All you want to see is that he delivers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:14am On Jul 31, 2022
Kingdemu:
I thought I was the only one missing N3xt. The thread has become uninteresting with lots and lots of unanswered questions which the guy could've done justice to. Wish he'll settle his gbese and hop back in.

Not only him…N3xt( on his part he needs to do the needful .. very important.

Some important/ notable professionals and home owners just looks away concerning some vital advise/question this days.
The tsunami is coming back to this thread again, I can see that. It happened few years back when I noticed this i started mentioning some names and boom they all came back.
But now… let me just keep muted shaaa.

In other news this our project is on final
Lapse…painting/ compound finishings

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 10:02am On Jul 31, 2022
abuiltech:



The prices in the above list is fair enough, from the prices, it seems he's using light pipe, pls ask, more so tell him to use 50mm pipe for waste pipe instead 40mm there's no much difference in their prices,

For the plumbing?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 10:15am On Jul 31, 2022
horlorbah:
Good morning everyone. Please can someone help me with the current prices of this woods.
2*4
2*3
2*2
2*6
1*10

Thank you

Don't know the current price but got these in the month of April (different from what you need though)
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by horlorbah(m): 10:55am On Jul 31, 2022
redgem:


Don't know the current price but got these in the month of April (different from what you need though)
Thank you very much. I'm trying to get the current price and if I may ask, which state did you buy this?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IamDone1313: 11:10am On Jul 31, 2022
Person2person:
Good afternoon, please I need a plumber around ota/ atan area..any recommendation within that axis will be appreciated
There is a big problem now to find a good and reliable plumber now. Not a drunk one, not an expensive one, a real professional. I have searched for that person for a while. That is how I discovered guys from plumbing services Sydney. They are not so expensive because of their firm`s size, their plumbers are the politest people of the world and the masters of their craft. Besides, you can find some helpful articles out of this site.
Hope it would be useful for you! Have a good day!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KelvinCoaster(m): 12:01pm On Jul 31, 2022
bobkezel:
N3xt is not my friend and I dissociate myself with his fraudulent activities.....
But.... He is one guy that has a wealth of knowledge, asks a lot of questions and provide many mysterious answers where necessary.
I actually miss him here....
I wish he could do the needful and come back...
"If only wishes were horses, beggars would ride".

I think N3xt is hardened!
Quite unfortunate!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Successbay: 12:24pm On Jul 31, 2022
This is so so so true...

I just wonder why this happens. The mindset of our people.. you pay for workmanship, yet they make you pay more buy quoting excess materials & sometimes wasting them..


tonididdy:
Personally I like to pay cash and have my job done standardly.

But buying materials yourself and paying only workmanship is meant to save you extra bucks BUT nigerian labourers will frustrate your aim.

They will ask you to buy 170bags cement,
BUT if you give them cash and monitor closely, they won't buy upto 100bags and will still deliver the job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Successbay: 12:29pm On Jul 31, 2022
Good afternoon sir,

Please share your contact. Thanks.


gbadexy:
Greetings house.
I still supply good quality paint at best price and we still offer affordable application services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2rerGI7lI
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Successbay: 12:44pm On Jul 31, 2022
Hmm..

The main thing is both parties should be honest on their dealings. If a customer wants to buy his/her materials.. let it be and charge at a rate you wouldn't compromise on the quality of job to be delivered, nor make him spend unnecessarily.

The customer should also be considerate in the bargain.

bobkezel:

Makes sense but I think the bolded is not necessary, sounds like dishonesty.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ABDECOR97(m): 12:49pm On Jul 31, 2022
Abdecor

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Successbay: 12:55pm On Jul 31, 2022
Good afternoon sir,

Please share your contact.


Blessedsunny2:
Your high quality Spanish product here for your house, still your blessed sunny dealer tiles, etc.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 1:16pm On Jul 31, 2022
horlorbah:

Thank you very much. I'm trying to get the current price and if I may ask, which state did you buy this?
Edo state, Benin City...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Successbay: 1:33pm On Jul 31, 2022
Good day professionals in the house.

Kindly help me review the quotation for the plumbing works of a 4 bedroom Bungalow (inclusive of a visitor's toilet at the waiting area) and BQ (Room & parlour self contain).

The initial piping for the internal house has been completed before the plastering.
What's left is the plumbing fittings (Internal) and the piping to the waste chamber (External)..

Thank you.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:12pm On Jul 31, 2022
Successbay:
Good day professionals in the house.

Kindly help me review the quotation for the plumbing works of a 4 bedroom Bungalow (inclusive of a visitor's toilet at the waiting area) and BQ (Room & parlour self contain).

The initial piping for the internal house has been completed before the plastering.
What's left is the plumbing fittings (Internal) and the piping to the waste chamber (External)..

Thank you.

Location of the Septic/Soakaway is not to us but I believe the 100mm pipe is good since the plumber is running a separate pipes for both soil and waste

Other water supply also can not be question because the your location and over tank will determine tye quantity to be used/installed .

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