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Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:53am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Russia's Lavrov: Either Ukraine fulfils Moscow's proposals or our army will decide Russia's proposals for "demilitarisation" and "denazification" are known to Kyiv -- either Ukraine fulfils them or the issue will be decided by the Russian army, Russia's foreign minister says - https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-either-ukraine-fulfils-moscows-proposals-or-our-army-will-decide-2022-12-26/ Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov attends the international conference "Eurasian Choice as a Basis for Strengthening Sovereignty" organised by the United Russia party in Moscow, Russia December 14, 2022. Alexander Zemlianichenko/Pool via REUTERS/File Photo Dec 27 (Reuters) - Moscow's proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfils them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying. "Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia's security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy," the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday. The point is simple: Fulfil them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army." Moscow has been calling its invasion in Ukraine a "special military operation" to "demilitarise" and "denazify" its neighbour. Kyiv and its Western allies call it an imperial-style aggression to grab land. In September, Moscow proclaimed it had annexed four provinces of Ukraine - Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson - after holding so-called referendums that were rejected as bogus and illegal by Kyiv and its allies. On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow was open to negotiations and blamed Kyiv and its Western backers for a lack of talks, a stance Washington has previously dismissed as posturing amid persistent Russian attacks. Lavrov told TASS that when it comes to how long the conflict will last, "the ball is in the regime's court and Washington behind it." There is no end in sight to the war, which has entered its 11th month and which has killed thousands, displaced millions and turned cities into rubble. Kyiv has ruled out conceding any land to Russia in return for peace, and publicly demands Russia relinquish all territory. Moscow has insisted it is pursing "demilitarisation" and "denazification" but in reality its aims have not been fully defined. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by KingOfBoyz1(m): 8:56am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Buhari will send bandits to destroy Russia |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Nancy2020(f): 8:57am On Dec 27, 2022 |
The issue will be resolved by peace or by force with Russia army destruction of Ukraine so the point has been made it up to Ukraine to negotiate the one they want HAHAHAHAHAHA. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:01am On Dec 27, 2022 |
KingOfBoyz1:funny enough Nigeria is neutral on the matter. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by rexel99: 9:03am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Army weyy de on the run since how many months now. Mtcheew, yeye de smell. If the Russian army is strong why do they have to resort to the cowardly act of using drones to hit civilian installations? A move akin to guerrilla tactics used only by terrorists or insurgents. Make the Army return to battlefield fight like the men of the Ukraine army. 5 Likes |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by HeartlessMan: 9:06am On Dec 27, 2022 |
rexel99: Yet Ukraine cannot touch any Russian installation whether civillian or military. 15 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:10am On Dec 27, 2022 |
rexel99: Russia always state the places they hit and those places are Ukraine communications systems or military services buildings or Ukraine power grid Russia is not coward like nato that destroy it pipe lines and ran away. If Ukraine hit Donetsk civilian area Russia will always retaliate and that when you only see it response because you only watch CNN lol This war began in 2014 did you see what Ukraine did to donbas back then. 13 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by rexel99: 9:17am On Dec 27, 2022 |
HeartlessMan: If you are well abreast of developments in the war you will know that just yesterday, Ukraine hit the Engels military base in the heart of Russia. Three soldiers were killed in the attack. This is the second time in less than 30 days that the same facility that houses Russia's long range bombers has been hit. That's scandalous and a big disappointment for Ukraine to be able to consistently penetrate such high priority facility. Know what is happening around you and don't come here to expose your ignorance. Do you want me to school you more? 2 Likes |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 9:24am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Nancy2020:You mean the retreating Russian army? 2 Likes |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by rexel99: 9:24am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland: So Energy installations that cater for the needs of civilians are now military installations? Anyway, let them return to the battlefield if them born them well. Not hit and run like boko haram. 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:27am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-bakhmut-russia-assault-invasion-analysis/32174980.html In a courtyard outside a battered apartment building in the eastern city of Bakhmut, the crackle of a makeshift fire on which an elderly woman named Alla was trying to boil water was occasionally interrupted by the crack, whistle, and thump of incoming Russian artillery. West say it meat grinder because Russia is just killing Ukraine military men one by one there. 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:29am On Dec 27, 2022 |
rexel99: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-bakhmut-russia-assault-invasion-analysis/32174980.html In a courtyard outside a battered apartment building in the eastern city of Bakhmut, the crackle of a makeshift fire on which an elderly woman named Alla was trying to boil water was occasionally interrupted by the crack, whistle, and thump of incoming Russian artillery. Russia that is about to take this area lol soon you will see Ukraine weeping Now let see how nato killed other civilian places 6 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 9:32am On Dec 27, 2022 |
HeartlessMan: Have you been following the war at all? Who bombed the Crimea bridge? Do you know how many Russians air bases that have been hit? Even air facilities within Russia? But that's not as important as the Russian retreat. The attack on Kyiv failed early in the war. Now Russia is being chased from the north and south. Or would you say Russian retreat from Kherson, Lyman, and Kharkiv is. Western propaganda? 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Exmilitant(m): 9:34am On Dec 27, 2022 |
I am in support of Russia. The universe thrives on polarity. Black and white. Yin and yang. Light and dark. So there have to be a king of North(Russia) and king of South(Anglo America) for our world to continue spinning. Usher in a one world government headed by Anglo-America and see a total annihilation of the entire human race!!! 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 9:34am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:It's funny, the Russian are bombing yet retreating. 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:39am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:is that what cnn told you lol. . Russia went back because of the river not because of Ukraine power You can see that from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682 If Ukraine is stronger let them cross the river and come the other side lol. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:45am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Exmilitant: From the Bible the one world government will come because of the antichrist but that after USA makes peace with Russia and China. Hopefully it may still be far away in the distant future. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 9:48am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:You are now going into comedy. This was the same river that the Russian crossed in WW2 and defeated Germany. What is your excuse for Kharkiv and Lyman and even Kyiv early on in the war. The Russian controled land in smaller than it was 6 months ago. 2 Likes |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:59am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:we can argue from now till forever you can see the small blue area they took back which is very small compared to the vast areas Russia continues to rule over why are you ashamed of accepting it lol the map shows you that river was a problem and that the complete map you see many big area Russia rules. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 10:05am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:Oga, Russia rules over less area than they did 4 months ago. They have bearly progressed anywhere in the last months yet somehow they have brainwashed you to see this as victory. In every war, rivers, mountains and the likes are always a problem. But it was not an issue in WW2 against Germany. It's not the river killing Russian, it's the superior Ukrainians |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 10:13am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland: Again do you even understand the maps you posted? By November, Russia controled much less land than in March 15th according to your maps yets you somehow see this as winning. If this is how to win a war, I never want to win the Russian way. |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:18am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:the red area vs the blue area which one is bigger or is it hard for you to understand lol and that one size of the map if I show you the east side you will see the vast area Russia is in lol.
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 10:21am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:The red is much bigger but you failed to notice that it has been reducing since March even according to your map and mind you, you map does not show all of Ukraine. It only shows the SE of the country. At present, Russia controls less than 20% of the entire country. 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:22am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills: Russia will land lock Ukraine completely soon lol.
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:24am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:the blue is minor very small thing they rake back because of the river once kyiv is destroyed and in darkness the military men will be worried about their families back home and will be having weak minds then they will not have desired to war on
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Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 10:25am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:But they are retreating so how would they do that. https://images.app./YJp5wXLCTmNxrbyH7 |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by ken6488(m): 10:26am On Dec 27, 2022 |
rexel99:actually any attacking country would have done it day one, Let say Russia is very understanding |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by tctrills: 10:28am On Dec 27, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:Oga, can you not read a map. You forget the white area. That is basically 80% of Ukraine. Let me teach you sir. Ukraine controls the white areas, the have retaken the blue areas and Russia has retreated to the red areas in your map.The Russian controled is closer to 15% of the country. 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:29am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:read my past messages I told you that they only went back because of the river if Ukraine destroy the river the military on the other side won't survive so Ukraine can't cross the river because they don't have military bridge and if they use boat Russia wipes them off. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:35am On Dec 27, 2022 |
tctrills:you are funny taking the red area is more than enough for Russia because Russia just want to punish Ukraine you can see Russia don't even need the land because it is the biggest nation on earth lol Ukraine land it took is punishment for wanting to Join nato so it best to surround them and make then suffer for it Wise up and see Ukraine is in darkness and cold and bleeding. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by obedience4(m): 11:02am On Dec 27, 2022 |
HeartlessMan: Just yesterday 3 airmen of Russia died after a drone attack on an airbase in Russia, be deceiving yourself 1 Like |
Re: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals Or Our Russia Army Will Decide by caye(m): 11:08am On Dec 27, 2022 |
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