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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by FriendsAndFans(m): 11:30am On Mar 16, 2023
to a large extent, it goes a long way in influencing even ones mentality. There are some Mental Pictures you need to create before it metamorphoses into reality; so if you are not from a Wealthy class or stay among the rich, it may be difficult to create some mental pictures.

The only solution to breaking the wheels of penury is to make alot friends, work on your communication and problem solving skills. The journey is a different battle if you came from a "humble Background"

But when grace speaks for you, things start to change for the better. We all need luck

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by boiz2men(m): 2:23pm On Mar 16, 2023
Honeydenz:
Thinking aloud all through last night, I have thought very deeply till 1am this morning on how a particular pattern Of wealth and affluence drives In a family and society expecially in this part of the world.

Studying the life of rich and influential individuals in the society, most of them seem to come from an already established or comfortable home, this worries me since I and my siblings aren't really from a well-to-do home or a rich background.
For example,
Seyi tinubu is already successful and famous and doing well, all thanks to his father Bola tinubu and understandably, tinubu himself also had a rich parent and studied in the US and With the western exposure they come back home and do great things, Obaseki of Edo state, Femi otedola's father was a governor of Lagos state, I can go on and on.
Your background and the environment you grew up in either impacts your life positively, or negatively, and could determine your future. But only if you allow it to. From the experiences of many, a humble upbringing, absence of one parent or lack of education does not mean that your future is doomed.

What's your opinion? Please no sentiments, religious or emotional comments pls, only reasonable argument is welcome.
would really appreciate if this can get to the front page for more logical explanations.


This is not true. Let me encourage you

I grew from absolutely NOTHING.

Although I acknowledge the existence of Grace, I dare say it is mostly available to those who put in some effort.

In the university, someone tagged to me a FB post, the post was "tag someone who you know will be a millionaire in 5 years time"

This shocked me. At the time, I was really struggling but I bet he saw my push and hustling spirit.

Another guy told me "you be like person to watch out for". Another said "you nor be person wey Dem dey lose e contact oo"

I remember their words clearly cos I took them to God in prayer.

I was involved in a lot of small businesses and jobs, some not very appealing but I wanted out of the poverty I was born into.

In secondary school, I cleared bush for stipends and did assignments for my classmates for a fee, helped people copy notes.

I have never been out of cash no matter how small. If I have zero today, I will go outside and come back with 500-1000 to survive that day. This literally happened and my guy said "you be like person papa" and I was only 19.

My start up capital was 5000 in 2012 which was my monthly allawee as a student and it has grown tremendously since then. I had no help from ANYONE. It was just me and my God.


Have the right mindset and keep God close to your heart

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Honeydenz(f): 2:50pm On Mar 16, 2023
boiz2men:



This is not true. Let me encourage you

I grew from absolutely NOTHING.

Although I acknowledge the existence of Grace, I dare say it is mostly available to those who put in some effort.

In the university, someone tagged to me a FB post, the post was "tag someone who you know will be a millionaire in 5 years time"

This shocked me. At the time, I was really struggling but I bet he saw my push and hustling spirit.

Another guy told me "you be like person to watch out for". Another said "you nor be person wey Dem dey lose e contact oo"

I remember their words clearly cos I took them to God in prayer.

I was involved in a lot of small businesses and jobs, some not very appealing but I wanted out of the poverty I was born into.

In secondary school, I cleared bush for stipends and did assignments for my classmates for a fee, helped people copy notes.

I have never been out of cash no matter how small. If I have zero today, I will go outside and come back with 500-1000 to survive that day. This literally happened and my guy said "you be like person papa" and I was only 19.

My start up capital was 5000 in 2012 which was my monthly allawee as a student and it has grown tremendously since then. I had no help from ANYONE. It was just me and my God.


Have the right mindset and keep God close to your heart
So do you now consider yourself rich?
Have u also thought about how far you would have gone by now if you had an enabling background (financially supportive family) in addition to your hustling, hardworking and positive spirit?

When we talked about being rich, we don't mean being able to erect a bungalow, driving a Toyota Camry or being able to afford a 3-bedroom flat in a city

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by boiz2men(m): 2:57pm On Mar 16, 2023
Honeydenz:

So do you now consider yourself rich?
Have u also thought about how far you would have gone by now if you had an enabling background (financially supportive family) in addition to your hustling, hardworking and positive spirit?

Some people consider me very rich.

I would never know how far I'd have gone if I was born into wealth but one thing I know is that I'm not as ambitious as I was. I seem to have reached complacency and contentment. Maybe poverty was my motivation.

I wrote a thread about how money no longer excites me.
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Honeydenz(f): 3:03pm On Mar 16, 2023
boiz2men:


Some people consider me very rich.

I would never know how far I'd have gone if I was born into wealth but one thing I know is that I'm not as ambitious as I was. I seem to have reached complacency and contentment. Maybe poverty was my motivation.

I wrote a thread about how money no longer excites me.
This is more like it
I appreciate your contribution
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by emmaodet: 3:20pm On Mar 16, 2023
Klass99:


You cannot blame fathers from the 60's to 90s alone, the people of this generation are as much to blame. We have a herd and zombie mentality in Africa, when it comes to marriage, children, japa and other things.


You write very well and i love it.
At the bolded.........You are right and it is the reason why i hate following the crowd. I like it solo and going the other way even though there will be a lot of noise and distractions.

Critical and independent thinking are not common in our DNA - we are quick to do things because it is expected of us, people just do what is expected of them without thinking it through. - True. Many examples abound.
Had a family friend that was warned against marrying immediately after NYSC without a job but he wouldn't listen. He doesn't want to lose his heartthrob and after so many back and forths and threatening everyone, he was left to his faith.
Married and has given birth to 2 kids in one room. Always calling and begging for money. The wife sef don show am shege when love has disappeared in the face of poverty.
I have blocked him on my phone due to incessant begging. When people are making mistakes and we try to correct, they try to shut us up with mind-your-business mantra. We say this not because we hate them rather their decision making will one way or the other affects us in future and that is what i hate about poor people who don't plan.
They give birth to children that will be thieves and armed robbers tomorrow terrorizing the streets and disturbing the ones that are just managing their lives. Some will turn to junkies selling drugs to boys on the street and their girls will turn to street hookers etc.

Salary may not be within their control but is child birth also out of their control? - Exactly. They don't have any excuses and it is still this poor decision making affecting their lives they will take to polling unit en-masses and again vote the wrong candidates. Their decision making will always reflect in other areas of their lives.

People don't take the time to find themselves, figure out how they want to live or figure out what is important to them in life, they just run with the herd. The best decisions I have made in my life, are decisions I thought through, decisions that I didn't allow others overly influence. I typically went in the direction that people said I shouldn't go and I am better for it. - Again. i agree with you

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by jaxxy(m): 3:29pm On Mar 16, 2023
Honeydenz:
Thinking aloud all through last night, I have thought very deeply till 1am this morning on how a particular pattern Of wealth and affluence drives In a family and society expecially in this part of the world.

Studying the life of rich and influential individuals in the society, most of them seem to come from an already established or comfortable home, this worries me since I and my siblings aren't really from a well-to-do home or a rich background.
For example,
Seyi tinubu is already successful and famous and doing well, all thanks to his father Bola tinubu and understandably, tinubu himself also had a rich parent and studied in the US and With the western exposure they come back home and do great things, Obaseki of Edo state, Femi otedola's father was a governor of Lagos state, I can go on and on.
Your background and the environment you grew up in either impacts your life positively, or negatively, and could determine your future. But only if you allow it to. From the experiences of many, a humble upbringing, absence of one parent or lack of education does not mean that your future is doomed.

What's your opinion? Please no sentiments, religious or emotional comments pls, only reasonable argument is welcome.
would really appreciate if this can get to the front page for more logical explanations.

Just like there are many who are rich from rich family backgrounds there are many from poor backgrounds who became rich.

infact some who parents are rich may have had poor grandparents and the story changed at some point...

Everybody once had a source or links of humble begins. it took sm1 in the family line to change it.

So u can always change urs too.

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Klass99(f): 4:35pm On Mar 16, 2023

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Gerrard59(m): 8:06am On Mar 17, 2023
woginid967:


As if our president was not from them.

See, God lifts men. Methods differ but NEVER forget, GOD lifts men.


God will be stupiiiid to let any human exist whose case is totally hopeless.

Those you mentioned get offered chances to be amputated and take up professional begging and they become rich. I have met several and discussed with them at sabo. Some join herdsmen or BH..... Either way money is made.

No one, i repeat..... No one is hopeless in this universe.

Buhari joined the army, and he came from a wealthy family by his generation's standards. Please stop lying.

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Gerrard59(m): 8:25am On Mar 17, 2023
Honeydenz:
Thinking aloud all through last night, I have thought very deeply till 1am this morning on how a particular pattern Of wealth and affluence drives In a family and society expecially in this part of the world.

Studying the life of rich and influential individuals in the society, most of them seem to come from an already established or comfortable home, this worries me since I and my siblings aren't really from a well-to-do home or a rich background.
For example,
Seyi tinubu is already successful and famous and doing well, all thanks to his father Bola tinubu and understandably, tinubu himself also had a rich parent and studied in the US and With the western exposure they come back home and do great things, Obaseki of Edo state, Femi otedola's father was a governor of Lagos state, I can go on and on.
Your background and the environment you grew up in either impacts your life positively, or negatively, and could determine your future. But only if you allow it to. From the experiences of many, a humble upbringing, absence of one parent or lack of education does not mean that your future is doomed.

What's your opinion? Please no sentiments, religious or emotional comments pls, only reasonable argument is welcome.
would really appreciate if this can get to the front page for more logical explanations.

It is like compound interest. When the first family is established, invariably, successive generations would become more established and even wealthy. Na part of the reasons some African Americans say the success of Nigerian-Americans should not be used to judge the success of black people in the US because those Nigerians by virtue of going through the US immigration system, are the best and brightest from Nigeria. The same would play out in Canada compared to blacks who have been domiciled there for many generations.

It is usually hard for the first generation and maybe second. A lot of sacrifices and delayed gratification have to be made. One major way is to have few children instead of many children. That way, little resources can be managed for the benefit of everyone. Another is delayed gratification. The first generation should postpone some purchases and expenses so that their offsprings' education can be catered for properly. Education still remains the surest way to a middle class lifestyle in a country where things work and the economy is pretty good. Buhari and his cohorts have severely destroyed the Nigerian economy. Also, insecurity has rendered many people poorer than before.

In developed countries, especially those who got developed and prosperous within a short period of time, parents pay very close attention to their children's education and development. This applies to Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, China, South Korea etc. For instance, Chinese who migrated to the west during the '80s and '90s faced many challenges, but they persevered and were focused. Today, their children are reaping the fruits of their parents' labour and enjoying life. At the same time, it is very important for the first and second generations to discipline themselves not to be wayward. Again, these Asians know it so well, and very few are wayward compared to other races. Waywardness can destroy everything the previous generation built. To build is hard, to destroy is easy.

With the Internet comes easy access to information, however, this means greater and stiffer competition for scarce resources. People from less financially comfortable backgrounds should be properly and timely informed, plan their lives well and play delayed gratification. It is hard at first (nothing good comes easy), but it pays in the long run.

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by SeaTrade(m): 8:27am On Mar 17, 2023
boiz2men:


Some people consider me very rich.

I would never know how far I'd have gone if I was born into wealth but one thing I know is that I'm not as ambitious as I was. I seem to have reached complacency and contentment. Maybe poverty was my motivation.

I wrote a thread about how money no longer excites me.
The bolded are very dangerous feelings to have as an entrepreneur,snap out of it ASAP if you can.
I felt same way too some years back and it took bailouts upon bailouts from my mother to get me back on track.
Be very careful with content ,because what follows will be "relax" and then you start to get sloppy,you stop paying attention and then you'll find yourself on the ground.
I am still feeling this way again but I fight it by heaping huge responsibilities and setting higher targets on my enterprise and my team,adding businesses to it steadily so that it keeps me and the team on our toes and increase our obligations and hence increase our hunger.
Be careful.

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Honeydenz(f): 9:52am On Mar 17, 2023
Gerrard59:


It is like compound interest. When the first family is established, invariably, successive generations would become more established and even wealthy. Na part of the reasons some African Americans say the success of Nigerian-Americans should not be used to judge the success of black people in the US because those Nigerians by virtue of going through the US immigration system, are the best and brightest from Nigeria. The same would play out in Canada compared to blacks who have been domiciled there for many generations.

It is usually hard for the first generation and maybe second. A lot of sacrifices and delayed gratification have to be made. One major way is to have few children instead of many children. That way, little resources can be managed for the benefit of everyone. Another is delayed gratification. The first generation should postpone some purchases and expenses so that their offsprings' education can be catered for properly. Education still remains the surest way to a middle class lifestyle in a country where things work and the economy is pretty good. Buhari and his cohorts have severely destroyed the Nigerian economy. Also, insecurity has rendered many people poorer than before.

In developed countries, especially those who got developed and prosperous within a short period of time, parents pay very close attention to their children's education and development. This applies to Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, China, South Korea etc. For instance, Chinese who migrated to the west during the '80s and '90s faced many challenges, but they persevered and were focused. Today, their children are reaping the fruits of their parents' labour and enjoying life. At the same time, it is very important for the first and second generations to discipline themselves not to be wayward. Again, these Asians know it so well, and very few are wayward compared to other races. Waywardness can destroy everything the previous generation built. To build is hard, to destroy is easy.

With the Internet comes easy access to information, however, this means greater and stiffer competition for scarce resources. People from less financially comfortable backgrounds should be properly and timely informed, plan their lives well and play delayed gratification. It is hard at first (nothing good comes easy), but it pays in the long run.
Wow
Am practically clapping my hand for you from here. You said it all, we appreciate this.

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by MadarasBlade(m): 10:39am On Mar 17, 2023
woginid967:


Not luck. Everyone has the opportunities around them, laziness, complaining and lack of faith is why they don't see it.

While it isn't luck, assuming someone has an head start(wealthy family) and they both put in the same amount of hardwork, although they might both be successful but who do you think will be more successful?
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by seguno2: 5:37pm On Mar 17, 2023
Gerrard59:
Buhari joined the army, and he came from a wealthy family by his generation's standards. Please stop lying.

So why does he pretend to be a pauper- posing with Milo sachets, borrowing money for his nomination form, hiding his personal income tax returns unlike Jonathan etc

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 5:49pm On Mar 17, 2023
Xxxxtentacion2:
Majority of people from poor homes don't end up doing well those who do are only few and they are outliers or exceptions...
Check the stats ...
You only use money to make more money
Poor access to education and information is what keeps a majority of those from poor homes, poor. It isn't just about money. undecided
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 5:50pm On Mar 17, 2023
JOACHINpedro:
Na why man gat forget about offspring if him no get shish cus na that offspring go still despise you for bringing them here to suffer
Poverty is a curse that breeds more of its own kind. undecided
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Xxxxtentacion2: 6:06pm On Mar 17, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Poor access to education and information is what keeps a majority of those from poor homes, poor. It isn't just about money. undecided
the way you argue on this forum sometimes confuses me. 😎
You kind of argue like a clown, you neither here or there. you just vomit rubbish to suit ♠ your ego...
Shey na stone dem dey take get education abi
Abi them dey use shit get information for your village...
You need Money to get access to good education and information....📃

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 6:18pm On Mar 17, 2023
Xxxxtentacion2:
■ Shey na stone dem dey take get education abi. Abi them dey use shit get information for your village... You need Money to get access to good education and information....📃
1. This mentality that good education can only be accessed by those who have money is a big part of the reason why many of the poor continue to exist in poverty. undecided

You can get an education from anywhere or from anyone, depending on what it is you are interested in. For example, the first mushroom farmers did not go to schools to learn about mushrooms and how to cultivate them and then sell them to make money. No, they went into the forests to find the mushrooms and learn how best to grow them and then cultivate them. Those people later wrote the books which you buy and put together the courses you attend in order to learn how to grow your own mushrooms. You are poor does not mean you first have to pay money to learn to do these things, as nothing should stop you from matching into the forest for yourself to learn for yourself about mushrooms and how to cultivate them for yourself. undecided

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Xxxxtentacion2: 6:26pm On Mar 17, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. This mentality that good education can only be accessed by those who have money is a big part of the reason why many of the poor continue to exist in poverty. undecided

You can get an education from anywhere or from anyone, depending on what it is you are interested in. For example, the first mushroom farmers did not go to schools to learn about mushrooms and how to cultivate them and then sell them to make money. No, they went into the forests to find the mushrooms and learn how best to grow them and then cultivate them. Those people later wrote the books which you buy and put together the courses you attend in order to learn how to grow your own mushrooms. You are poor does not mean you first have to pay money to learn to do these things, as nothing should stop you from matching into the forest for yourself to learn for yourself about mushrooms and how to cultivate them for yourself. undecided
shey you dey mad ni...
Are you normal
Why should any sensible person go into the forest to learn from scratch how to cultivate mushroom when you can buy data and learn it from YouTube or buy books on mushroom cultivation...
OK shey if you want education on how to become a surgeon you can teach yourself abi...
I swear you be clown...🤡

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 6:40pm On Mar 17, 2023
Xxxxtentacion2:
■ shey you dey mad ni... Are you normal Why should any sensible person go into the forest to learn from scratch how to cultivate mushroom when you can buy data and learn it from YouTube or buy books on mushroom cultivation...
■ OK shey if you want education on how to become a surgeon you can teach yourself abi...I swear you be clown...🤡
1. So, the money you spend on buying data and books isn't money at all? And here I thought you said this kind of education cannot be obtained any other way? Now you are shifting goal posts! undecided

2. So, everyone in poverty has first to spend enormous amounts in order to become surgeons before they can save themselves from poverty? Know when to quit with the foolishness abeg! undecided
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by ZIMDRILL(m): 7:11pm On Mar 17, 2023
emmaodet:


You write very well and i love it.
At the bolded.........You are right and it is the reason why i hate following the crowd. I like it solo and going the other way even though there will be a lot of noise and distractions.

Critical and independent thinking are not common in our DNA - we are quick to do things because it is expected of us, people just do what is expected of them without thinking it through. - True. Many examples abound.
Had a family friend that was warned against marrying immediately after NYSC without a job but he wouldn't listen. He doesn't want to lose his heartthrob and after so many back and forths and threatening everyone, he was left to his faith.
Married and has given birth to 2 kids in one room. Always calling and begging for money. The wife sef don show am shege when love has disappeared in the face of poverty.
I have blocked him on my phone due to incessant begging. When people are making mistakes and we try to correct, they try to shut us up with mind-your-business mantra. We say this not because we hate them rather their decision making will one way or the other affects us in future and that is what i hate about poor people who don't plan.
They give birth to children that will be thieves and armed robbers tomorrow terrorizing the streets and disturbing the ones that are just managing their lives. Some will turn to junkies selling drugs to boys on the street and their girls will turn to street hookers etc.

Salary may not be within their control but is child birth also out of their control? - Exactly. They don't have any excuses and it is still this poor decision making affecting their lives they will take to polling unit en-masses and again vote the wrong candidates. Their decision making will always reflect in other areas of their lives.

People don't take the time to find themselves, figure out how they want to live or figure out what is important to them in life, they just run with the herd. The best decisions I have made in my life, are decisions I thought through, decisions that I didn't allow others overly influence. I typically went in the direction that people said I shouldn't go and I am better for it. - Again. i agree with you

independent thinking is their in our DNA is there but culture and tradition has groomed us not to question elders

Most african cultures and tradition view questioning of elders and taboo, hence whats is called generational curses but todays churches are just a vicious cycle due the fact that if one wants to do things outside the box he casted out family or looked down by society

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by emmaodet: 7:17pm On Mar 17, 2023
ZIMDRILL:


independent thinking is their in our DNA is there but culture and tradition has groomed us not to question elders

Most african cultures and tradition view questioning of elders and taboo, hence whats is called generational curses but todays churches are just a vicious cycle due the fact that if one wants to do things outside the box he casted out family or looked down by society


You are right
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by ZIMDRILL(m): 7:24pm On Mar 17, 2023
emmaodet:


You are right

Have ever noticed that young one cant wait to grow up to elders, due to power aka not being questioned and ordering people around

This is all due how elders trash down whoever is younger than them, worse african parents dont usually acknowledge that their are areas you smarter than them, what they dont know that acknowledgement from parents gives a child confidence

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by emmaodet: 7:32pm On Mar 17, 2023
Fab21:
Sincerely, I've thought about this before.
This is what I'm going through at the moment.
See, your background to some extent would determine how far you'll go in life..

If you're born from a rich background, your case is minimal as a Nigerian.

If you're from a poor background, you've a lots of work to do; that's the butter truth.

I know there's a place of Grace, hardwork, luck and God factor. But irrespective of these factors, most of us would've gone far if we're from a good background.
Though there shouldn't be a place of excuse if truly you're hungry for success.

But however, rigorous processes before you breakthrough can even cost your life.

I'm perfectly sure that no one is useless or born without any potentials but for you to make it in life especially in this country, your background really matters.

Your background will determine how far you'll quickly go in life.

The rich kids always marry from there circles.
You should ask yourself why ?

Some guys out there will tell you they're into business; all kind of business. But there are things that I've clearly seen: is that some of them opt in into fraud the begining and then divert the money to set up businesses!
These I've seen a lot.

Ask yourself are they not diligent enough ?
Why do they need to go into fraud first.
Some will tell you I've an idea,but no money and nobody's ready to give you a dime.

Hence, they think the best way to get funds is to go into fraud and start up their business be it music, tech and the likes.

A friend of mine in school graduated as BGS.
The guy's good; I must say.

Honestly, I didn't expect him to be in Nigeria by now! This is what Nigeria/background factor have caused.

Someone said Zukerberg would've not have become a facebook owner if he's a Nigerian. To some extent it's true.

I know, no pain no gain.
I know, no glory without story.

But when these persist for long during the process, you might give up and venture into illegal stuff.

You can't be drinking Garri and you expect to think outside the box.
You can't be in hungers for days and you expect to think well.

Look at the some of our recent hip-hop artistes, some needed to go into fraud before they could get some money to release their singles, demo and the likes.

I began to see recently that there are some prayers that will be useless in developed countries.

How can a Nigerian be praying to get Job after school?
Once you've your certificate shouldn't you get a reasonable job?
If there's a working System.
This tell us that we've a bad system.
People praying for their businesses, admissions and all kinds.

Most pains, ignominy, depression, frustration would've been minimal if you're from a rich background and have a working System.

But with respect to all these, even if there's a working System and a rich background, some people will still find 101 reasons why things won't work out for them.



I've a business idea to set up a cyber café but there's no capital.
Because getting a job as a graduate in this place: is like a Carmel going through an eye of a needle.

To survive here, isn't easy especially as a graduate.

It's well.


Hmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Klass99(f): 8:08pm On Mar 17, 2023

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 9:01pm On Mar 17, 2023
woginid967:
■As if our president was not from them. See, God lifts men. Methods differ but NEVER forget, GOD lifts men. God will be stupiiiid to let any human exist whose case is totally hopeless. Those you mentioned get offered chances to be amputated and take up professional begging and they become rich. I have met several and discussed with them at sabo. Some join herdsmen or BH..... Either way money is made. No one, i repeat..... No one is hopeless in this universe.
1. The moment you start to throw God's mention into these debates, know that you are no longer applying commonsense but instead trying to use God as an excuse for what isn't. undecided

God isn't the reason these men rise. Instead, they happened to position themselves in a situation that led to the opportunity they eventually used to their advantage. You do not sit back with arms folded expecting that opportunity would come to you where you sit. You do work in order to pave the way for it to find you. undecided

Indeed, no one is hopeless but God isn't the one who does these things. Go to the abroad countries to see this for your own self. undecided

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Xxxxtentacion2: 10:58pm On Mar 17, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. So, the money you spend on buying data and books isn't money at all? And here I thought you said this kind of education cannot be obtained any other way? Now you are shifting goal posts! undecided

2. So, everyone in poverty has first to spend enormous amounts in order to become surgeons before they can save themselves from poverty? Know when to quit with the foolishness abeg! undecided
the main point will always be you need money to make more money...
Either you agree or not you know money doesn't grow on trees...🤣
You just love to argue senselessly sometimes...
I have observed you very well on this forum na anywhere belle face you be neither here nor there...
On a single thread only you dey argue for two sides...
More like supporting devil and Jesus at the same time...

🤡🤡🤡

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Mar 17, 2023
Xxxxtentacion2:
the main point will always be you need money to make more money...
Either you agree or not...🤣
You just love to argue senselessly sometimes...
I have observed you very well na anywhere belle face you be neither here nor there...
On a single thread only dey argue for two sides...
More like supporting devil and Jesus at the same time...
🤡🤡🤡
1. And this remains the delusion that keeps many a poor poor. They blame their poverty refusing to take advantage of the many opportunities around them to learn and lift themselves out of poverty by their own will. undecided
Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by Xxxxtentacion2: 11:09pm On Mar 17, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. And this remains the delusion that keeps many a poor poor. They blame their poverty refusing to take advantage of the many opportunities around them to learn and lift themselves out of poverty by their own will. undecided
what opportunities are you blabbing about....
Shey you no dey poor as you dey type all this rubbish...
If you were this smart to see opportunities why are you not as rich as Elon Musk...🤣🤣🤣

Keep quiet my friend you don't know anything if you had any atom of knowledge you would have used it for better things instead of arguing senselessly everyday on this forum...

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Re: Your Background Can Determine How Far You Go In Life by seguno2: 11:51pm On Mar 17, 2023
Fab21:
Sincerely, I've thought about this before.
This is what I'm going through at the moment.
See, your background to some extent would determine how far you'll go in life..

If you're born from a rich background, your case is minimal as a Nigerian.

If you're from a poor background, you've a lots of work to do; that's the butter truth.

I know there's a place of Grace, hardwork, luck and God factor. But irrespective of these factors, most of us would've gone far if we're from a good background.
Though there shouldn't be a place of excuse if truly you're hungry for success.

But however, rigorous processes before you breakthrough can even cost your life.

I'm perfectly sure that no one is useless or born without any potentials but for you to make it in life especially in this country, your background really matters.

Your background will determine how far you'll quickly go in life.

The rich kids always marry from there circles.
You should ask yourself why ?

Some guys out there will tell you they're into business; all kind of business. But there are things that I've clearly seen: is that some of them opt in into fraud the begining and then divert the money to set up businesses!
These I've seen a lot.

Ask yourself are they not diligent enough ?
Why do they need to go into fraud first.
Some will tell you I've an idea,but no money and nobody's ready to give you a dime.

Hence, they think the best way to get funds is to go into fraud and start up their business be it music, tech and the likes.

A friend of mine in school graduated as BGS.
The guy's good; I must say.

Honestly, I didn't expect him to be in Nigeria by now! This is what Nigeria/background factor have caused.

Someone said Zukerberg would've not have become a facebook owner if he's a Nigerian. To some extent it's true.

I know, no pain no gain.
I know, no glory without story.

But when these persist for long during the process, you might give up and venture into illegal stuff.

You can't be drinking Garri and you expect to think outside the box.
You can't be in hungers for days and you expect to think well.

Look at the some of our recent hip-hop artistes, some needed to go into fraud before they could get some money to release their singles, demo and the likes.

I began to see recently that there are some prayers that will be useless in developed countries.

How can a Nigerian be praying to get Job after school?
Once you've your certificate shouldn't you get a reasonable job?
If there's a working System.
This tell us that we've a bad system.
People praying for their businesses, admissions and all kinds.

Most pains, ignominy, depression, frustration would've been minimal if you're from a rich background and have a working System.

But with respect to all these, even if there's a working System and a rich background, some people will still find 101 reasons why things won't work out for them.



I've a business idea to set up a cyber café but there's no capital.
Because getting a job as a graduate in this place: is like a Carmel going through an eye of a needle.

To survive here, isn't easy especially as a graduate.

It's well.


Will putting your own time and talents into the political process and advocacy as well as community activities help to increase opportunities to breakthrough in your area, just as it is for the japa destinations of Nigerians?

The people of the japa destinations are not special, but fellow human beings created in God’s image like every other human race, and they have only 24 hours daily too.

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