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Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:28pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Where did you see that in my comment?. |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:32pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You problem is ignorance of context. Jesus never said you shouldn't judge but it's false judgement that Jesus meant there. John 7:24 [24]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 2:32pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Trying to understand the point you were trying to point the OP towards is all. You at least admitted that their many doctrines and traditions in your churches compare to those found among the many pagans and sinners, right? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:36pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Open your eyes, come out straight. Point out my claims and let me defend them. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:38pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Can you read at all?!. 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 2:39pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Wow... so even though the verse you quoted clearly states that you Judge not by outward appearance, you refuse to believe it indeed means you should not judge by outward appearances? No be fallacy dem dey call that kind argument you dey attempt there? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:44pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:What is righteous judgement?!. A form of supernatural or metaphysical thing?!. Judge not by appearance [don't judge to condemn the poor for the rich because the rich appear good and pleasing before you and the poor can not offer you anything because he appears poor to you] but judge righteously [ don't be partial]. DO YOU GET IT?!. 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 2:46pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:According to Jesus Christ, it is only God who is able to cause change, and this is from the outside - Inside change to be reflected on the outside. You suggested that God changes one from the inside in your response in bold meaning your churches are wrong for insisting on an outward change in appearance by their many doctrines and traditions. Yes or no? 2. You then go on to compare OP's adventure to that of Jesus Christ entering the abode of sinners in an unfriendly manner....is that an endorsement of yours of the sinners or your churches in this case? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 2:49pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:1. To judge righteously is to judge all things according to God's Law , the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. 2. All I see Is a desperate attempt at continuing to refute what is clearly right in front of you. Again, Jesus Christ said, " Judge not by outward appearances , but judge righteous judgement". It pretty much means what it says. So why are you trying so hard to change that. 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:53pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: 1. God would not cause change by some sort of magic. Holy Spirit will convict you of sins by words and admonition... he will not force you. Doctrines are what God use to guide you to Heaven through the bible. 2. My point is that God can use friendly and unfriendly actions to correct anybody. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 2:55pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Changing what exactly? Calm down boss and read instead of being haste to type. Make your judgement righteous no matter the appearance or position of the person standing before you. That's the meaning of the verse boss. They were judging Jesus for performing miracles on Sabbath day but they never judge their religious leaders for performing circumcision on Sabbath day because they reverrred their leader and Jesus was a nonentity to them... so they were bias with their judgement. That's why Jesus was telling them not to judge according to the appearance or position of the person standing before them but to make righteous judgement. 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 3:16pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
I apologize as I was not paying close attention and ended up making a mistake in my previous retort. Kobojunkie:Back to your response. smokinloud:1. I believe it's best to introduce the words of Jesus Christ at this point.... 25 “It will be bad for you teachers of the law and you Pharisees! You are hypocrites! You wash clean the outside of your cups and dishes. But inside they are full of what you got by cheating others and pleasing yourselves.Then again we read similar in Luke. 37 After Jesus had finished speaking, a Pharisee asked Jesus to eat with him. So he went and took a place at the table.Clearly, Jesus Christ left the cleaning of the inside(not the outside) to the individual. 2. Well, the problem with your claim is that the same Jesus Christ also insisted that those who are in the world — the unholy and hence unrighteous — cannot receive the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth - John 14 vs 15 - 26 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. Meaning the Holy Spirit is clearly beyond the scope of this here conversation since we are after all speaking of cleaning the inside still. 3. So, in this case, who do you perceive God is attempting to correct here? The one who wore the earring or those who, against God, chose to judge by outward appearance? 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 3:19pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:1. Again, the decree in fact says two things ▢ Do not judge by outward appearances ▢ Judge righteously — according to the standard that is the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. 2. So, are you now attempting to insinuate then that Jesus Christ only wants His followers to judge righteously only when the sabbath and miracles are involved? Jesus Christ said His Words are everlasting meaning that even when the circumstances change, His decree will not and does not change. So, we do not follow sabbaths and miracles only on sabbaths. Does that mean what Jesus Christ commanded of us is no longer valid? Come on! |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 3:36pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You are deliberately daft (acting daft to win arguments). Jesus words is forever and you can apply the scriptures in whatever situation you find yourself. 1. Judge people righteously not by their positions or how they appear before you. That's the message 2. The point here is don't judge with bias, judge righteously. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 3:38pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Righteousness is from inside out not outward in!. Your appearance shows what is taking place inside of you. I have no issues with that 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 3:42pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:So, the so-called churches were wrong in ousting OP from their midst because she wore earrings in their midst, Yes? And the verse from Paul's letter to Timothy which is often used to justify such foolishness — the interpretation of the letter's content at least — is of foolishness and not of God, yes? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Merry100: 7:47pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Read my comment properly, I used the word "Advised". |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 7:58pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Merry100:It's explicit. Read it 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 8:00pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Mr. Man I don't have time for SILLY questions. People here already understand my points 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 8:01pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Which is? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 8:04pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Even Jesus Christ made clear that God's special blessings existed upon those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of God - Matthew 19 vs 11 - 12. Why would Paul not advise people to choose the path of special blessings which Jesus Christ said existed for them in God? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 8:36pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Bring out a verse that Paul said otherwise instead of talking ogogoro talk. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by smokinloud(m): 8:37pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You don't read my reply you just keep repeating answered questions. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:You dey read at all?
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Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Kobojunkie: 8:40pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
smokinloud:Your responses are neither here nor there but I suspect you think OP was in the wrong for wearing earrings to one of your church gatherings, and you also pretend that this stance of theirs is scriptural, but when asked to verify your stance, you retreat. So, what do you want? |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Sisora(m): 9:44am On Jun 04, 2023 |
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Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by goodness4ever(m): 9:44am On Jun 04, 2023 |
The church was in order. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Nobody: 9:46am On Jun 04, 2023 |
HappyPagan:So na Satan she go come believe? Or why should she embrace that lying goat head? 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by VinnyBaba: 9:46am On Jun 04, 2023 |
Well DESERVED. Can he wear Earrings to see Tinubu in Aso Rock or his State Governor?.😕 Useless pple that can't respect God.😒 I blame our Newbie Liberal Pentecostal churches, who allow lots of these NONSENSE. 1 Like |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by onatisi(m): 9:47am On Jun 04, 2023 |
if one church asks you to remove your earrings and you don't want to, just leave and go to another church that allows earrings, what is the problem and wahala in that? Merry100: 2 Likes |
Re: I Was Sent Out Of The Church Just Because I Was Wearing An Earring by Shedking(m): 9:47am On Jun 04, 2023 |
Xpamsixs: Nairaland Moderators really need to look into this kind of spamming the comment section. |
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