Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,166,064 members, 7,863,772 topics. Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2024 at 05:27 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd (38602 Views)
See What I Saw In A Church I Visited In South Asia! / Does The Church I Attend Matter? / Timi Dakolo Married In My Church, I Knew Of The Rape-Pastor Yemi Davids (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) ... (15) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by SeriouslySense(m): 1:41pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
The white man, is a broad category, many are not Christians, so its inaccurate to make conclusion based on faulty Introductions But you are right about cultural influences. although it seems not mandatory for women to cover their heads, in the Bible they are advised to cover their heads, although i am not sure if Paul was speaking based only on cultural context, since he also attributes it to covering their glory. Even if a woman's head it not covered, its decent to wear clothing's, that do not bring distractions. God is everywhere, yes, but there are significance to certain things, the altar is significant because of God purpose, and if we respect God, we have to recognize the significance of what he does. TheAdvocate: |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Lucifyre: 1:43pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
OluwaLina1: When i see people speaking Notice how everyone that speaks in tongues, never speaks human tongues that are understood, they all speak angelic tongues that no one can understand. Also one of the signs of the spirit is to interpret tongues. Notice how u hardly hear about the gift of interpretation of tongues in the church., which is one of the signs of the spirit. According to the bible, not everyone must speak in tongues , there are other gifts that show signs of the spirit. Why are they all focusing on speaking angelic tongues. Why don't they speak in tongues to one another with one to interpret like in the bible, why only to God. The answer is quite simple really. It's an easy cop out with no need for proof or validation. I can come out and read the alphabet backwards and say im speaking in tongues. Bunch of jokers the lot of them. Where are those gifted with interpreting of the so called tongues? Where are those that speak in human tongues or languages they've never heard? None... Don't u think it'll be interesting to see people speaking in tongues and one's speaking gaelic and the other aramaic while someone gifted is interpreting. Trust me uld never see that. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by femtex007(m): 1:43pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
frenzy48:u mean guys were allowed to wear cap? That one na America wonder oh |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by frankblinkz(m): 1:45pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Dididrumz:I swear,the First day I went there they were even forcing me to speak in tongues,they even have special class for it. Some church don dey do me like scam this days 2 Likes |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by ahnie: 1:45pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Expect replies like....mind your business, you're not in church to judge anybody from pretenders that has turned the house of God into caricature. 2 Likes |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by IyfeNamikaze(m): 1:45pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
sotall:The reason the prayers Don't work is because We Africans have brought in our African beliefs and traditions into Christianity! Now let me explain: In the African beliefs and traditional practices, the people to their chi or gods, and offer prayers and sacrifice to it to come and cleanse the Land in times of trouble and the gods smite the evil doers who have wrought evil into the Land almost immediately. We Africans make the mistake of thinking that God works that way. He doesn't! So that's why people like you (African man) feels disappointed with God. But you're not the first to feel disappointed that God's will and purpose doesn't align with yours. Before the coming of Christ, the prophets ( Jeremiah, Isaiah, Malachi, Ezekiel) all prophesied about His coming. In their prophesies, God was going to send the Messiah who would come from the branch of David ( as the heir to the throne of David) and liberate the Israelites from their oppressors, chains and captivity and set them on a new height and establish his kingdom with a new Law. When Christ was born, and began his ministering on earth, Israel was under the rule of Roman, and many Jews seeing his works and knowing that he is from the line of David believed him to be the Messiah ( Liberator) who would start a radical revolution against the Roman empire and deliver the Jews from the Roman rule. But they were all Disappointed just like you are when Christ did none of that but instead preached a different kind of Salvation, deliverance or Libration to them, a spiritual Libration, the salvation of their souls. So my brother, the Good news was not to liberate Israel from the Romans or anybody but rather for their spiritual Libration. That the same way God is not going to answer the prayers to make Nigeria better, because that's not Christ's mission. Pray for your neighbors, for your brothers and sisters that's the prayers God will answer. Not earthly prayer for your earthly enjoyments. I feel like a lot of preachers are missing the Point and that's why people like you are feeling disappointed but I pray God sends a truer Teacher to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Dadimendino: 1:45pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
maivd: My dear don't give ignorance a chance, free your mind and do genuine research about Islam. Your blind eyes will be opened and you will identify the truth and embrace Islam. A lot of people from the west ignorantly and out of hatred spoke ills about Islam in the past but today most of them are now moslems testifying and converting their people into the only religion recognized by God. All prophets and messengers of God practice Islam. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Onyiiobi7735(m): 1:47pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
sotall:Lol! Oga, stop ranting in frustration.Religion has nothing to do with underdevelopment. Saudi Arabia is developed and they practice religion, likewise UAE, Bahrain,Kuwait. Switzerland has numerous churches and Christians,yet it is highly developed, likewise US, Germany,Canada,Spain, Italy,France, Singapore, Japan. Reason properly before posting. Religion is not the cause of underdevelopment, rather people's attitude and activities are. 1 Like |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by awakmfon03(m): 1:48pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
[b][/b] QUESTION? What's wrong in wearing trousers to church, Please in trying to answer, step the obvious with clear scriptural explanation (not quoting of verses) |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by sotall(m): 1:49pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Stevengold: Yes the government has its own blames in Nigeria's economic woes and underdevelopment but my writeup was focusing on the part of the citizens as they too are responsible for what Nigeria has become today. A people who have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by religion can never be productive. They are mentally lazy and have conditioned their mind and energy into believing and wishfull thinking which are by-products of prayers. Have you wondered why we barely produce most of what we use in our day to day life? How did other progressive countries get to where they are today? They didn't pray nor started to believe in imaginary things. They worked for it. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Glory2DLamb(m): 1:49pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Prince202020: Be deceiving yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by SeriouslySense(m): 1:51pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
I think you are rushing into hasty conclusions. You forget that educational levels are different between the regions, and for instance education is lower in the north than in the south and sometimes the south is not encouraged to realize its full potential, in order to not outshine others and to prevent the south form becoming too independent. For instance Igbos are very religious, but they are also very industrious, its not the religion, its the value system. Yoruba are also very smart, and can be very flexible, it has nothing to do with religion, but their value system. If these two tribes are allowed to do as they want to do, they can become like advanced Nations. The country has a problem of people with different values and people are sometimes intimidated by the talents of others because they are lacking in themselves, and want them suppressed. sotall: |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by thinkmoney(m): 1:51pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
samuelson06:I donβt know your religion but what Bible teaches is that our worship of God is more than a personal thing... it is a worship that is regulated by the Bible and that place high importance on our consideration of what others think about us (yes really! As a Christian we have to be concerned about what others think about us) In the Bible we are enjoined not to conform to the WORLD. As a Christian we should be careful of what people at a particular time judge to be things of the world. If the Bible say that during prayers women should cover their heads especially women with shaven heads, then women should. The Bible explains that this token shows they know their position and its respect even to angels. We should also be careful not to dress in a way people can mistake us to yahoo yahoo people. Yes thatβs Christianity |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by oluwaseyi0: 1:52pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Dogi1: the western world own christianity in the first place, so they can do whatever they like with it they brought it to us but we never ask where they got it, who gave it to them? |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Truthday: 1:53pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
maivd: Christianity is blood sucking cult. Full of murderers and fool mumu followers LovePeddler just sheep. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by steeltrust: 1:54pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
OluwaLina1:I guess it Christ embassy Them like over sabi for that church eh π π |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by jaxxy(m): 1:54pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
sotall: African religion is worse the the so called Abrahamic one. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
chigoziri2403: |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by SeriouslySense(m): 1:55pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Don't go there please . They will cry now, if they are exposed. jaxxy: |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Proffdada: 1:56pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
sotall:I wonder how many factories you have built. Those religious institutions still employ people. I don't know why you try to bring your misotheistic ideology into this 1 Like |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by IyfeNamikaze(m): 1:57pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Lucifyre: This is true. A lot of people don't open their bible actually read it. They just wait for the preachers to read it for them . That's why we're having all these different interpretation of something so simple and straight forward. During the pentecost in Act 2:1-13 the apostles who spoke in tongues had people who were present who could understand what they were saying. And speaking in tongues is a miraculous phenomenon, not something someone just mounts pulpit and start yabbing God knows what. And it is supposed to be an earthly languages for the people of earth to understand. All the times that the Angels spoke to people in the bible, the Angels spoke in language that the receiver would understand ( native language). |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by echoofsalvation: 1:58pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
My dear Sister, I know that you already knew the truth. Please don't play with your salvation, I will advice you to leave that church and look for the living church because there are many dead churches out there. This is Paul's warning about dead church or gathering: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." I pray that God will uphold you and your likes till the end in Jesus Name. Amen 1 Like |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by tremilatre(m): 2:00pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Thomasankara: Very well so, which I addressed in my follow on statement. Ironically same chapter mentions the hair as a woman's glory, if today's culture believes in women emancipation, why subject them to the now dated principle of hair covering? |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Gppgn(f): 2:02pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
sotall:if you think there's no God,,,, you are mad |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by WorldRichest: 2:03pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
chigoziri2403: You are a bad boy. You are a very bad boy 1 Like |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Gppgn(f): 2:04pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
jaywon442:what's stopping you from creating one? Or u don't have the brain? |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Ferdinandu(m): 2:04pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
OluwaLina1:Religion is officially a social gathering. Understand that and be at peace then decide whether to join any or not |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
jaxxy:Why do you need a religion? |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by gentlesmithugo(m): 2:05pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
JohnBullMySon:u r talking rubbish son |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by Ayatullah(m): 2:05pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
chigoziri2403: Your recommendations are perfect if she wants to by all means remain among those who fool themselves, knowing fully well that they are fooling themselves. I however see in her a lady that wants to serve God decently, so I believe your recommendations are going to be rejected by her. I pray she finds satisfaction in the natural and perfect religion Jesus Christ the son of Mary practiced - ISLAM.
|
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by JohnBullMySon: 2:08pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
gentlesmithugo:Countries where people mind their business are the most developed in both human capital and infrastructure. |
Re: Modernization In The Church! I Felt Odd by deyplay: 2:09pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
frenzy48:there are always options, don't be a hypocrite. Incase you don't know, there are alternatives e.g. Deeper life, MFM, Lord's Chosen, CAC etc. This fit into what you are looking for. And stop going to those churches that do or wear such things shikena. But, being the person you are, you won't still go to the churches I mentioned but go to where you can criticise while there are options. 1 Like 1 Share |
(1) (2) (3) ... (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) ... (15) (Reply)
What Apostle Paul Had To Say About Tithes And Other Heretic Teachings / Pastor Chibuzor Chinyere Rejects A Rolls Royce Birthday Gift / Observe Prayers Online β CAN Tells Churches
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 87 |