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What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 3:14pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
The concept of God/god (Elohim) in the Bible is deceptive and can easily be translated as one wishes. Son of God In the Bible we see that Moses was God for Pharaoh, Satan is the God of the world, Sons of God came to sleep with humans, God fought Jacob and lost, Jesus is the son of God, Even you are Gods. Most of these Gods are from "Elohim" in Hebrew. Elohim which can be translated as "gods" can be used in the singular sense for God, for god, Angels, Superhuman, and for people of authority such as a Judge or ruler. Elohim as God aka Yahweh Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth. Used as gods Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11 “Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20 As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight God.) “Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28 Humans are God (Elohim) Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1 “I said, ‘You are “gods"(Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6 Rightchannel TenQ Mightysparrow Ovacoma Fzmasterz Gaskiyamagana 43Ronin SIRTee15 |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by TheBillyonaire: 3:20pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Looks like someone's mind is about to go online. Ignorance is bliss. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by RightChannel: 3:25pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Where did you get your own version from, I am expecting you to name the version you get it from as simple as ABC AntiChristian: Here is another attachment AntiChristian: I hope where you copied them from has a version's name |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 3:29pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
RightChannel: I will show you a sample. Genesis 1:1 Go to the link: https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm Scroll down. After the commentaries you'll see the Hebrew translated to English! You should see the attached: What was translated as "God" is "Elohim" in Hebrew! Try this on another verse and attach here!
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Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by RightChannel: 3:36pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Can you now see the reason why I said you're a colossal failure? What is the name of the Bible version you copied them from is the question. Maybe we should tagged your fellow Muslims to help you out |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 3:39pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
RightChannel: So Hebrew Bible have names? TenQ Mightysparrow Ovacoma Fzmasterz Gaskiyamagana 43Ronin SIRTee15 |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 3:52pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
That’s right, and hope you know , Elohim and Allah means same thing, gods. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 3:58pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: It is proven from the Bible that Elohim = gods/God/Man/Angel etc! But you can prove such from the Qur'an that Allah = gods! Never! I don't need your wikipedia or other online sources! |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 3:59pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:The bible and quran are written in a language. Elohim and Allah means same thing, the “allah” in your quran is hubal. I don’t need your assumption and ignorance! Both you and christians are abrahamaic gods worshipper, you shooting yourself in the foot. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by RightChannel: 4:00pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Dumbass displaying yet again but the context of that Bible verses in question was written in English as you pasted here AntiChristian: You attached Elohim just to console yourself |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:01pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: Were is your proof? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:03pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
RightChannel: I have attached the Hebrew and its translation for you! Wetin remain? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:03pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:It’s all over the hebrew, aramaic and Arabic language. Both you and Christians are worshipping Abrahamaic gods.
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Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:06pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: This is where i disagree with you! Allah says He is one! Where did you get your gods? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:08pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:That’s what they said Allah said in a book. Allah and Elohim means same thing. Al lah means “the gods”. Elohim means “the gods”. It could be use as singular too. Yahweh, hubal, zeus, ogun, marduk are all gods/allah. In the quraysh kabal, Hubal was the head god, Allah. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:11pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: I asked of a proof and are these proofs? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:11pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: I told you, They are all over the hebrew, aramaic and arabic language. Your quran was written in a language.. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:12pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: Give me proof from what I believe in! |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:13pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:I don’t want you to believe it. They are all over the hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic language. When jesus was alive in the New Testament, he spoke Aramaic, what’s “god” in Aramaic? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:14pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: Is it Elah or Alah? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:15pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:They come from the same Semitic language. Semitic means Shem. What’s god in semitic language?
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Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by RightChannel: 4:15pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Wait just relax, I am not here to frustrate you pls Let me come down to your level, what did you understand by the masculine plural from the picture attached or you didn't see where masculine plural was written there? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by RightChannel: 4:18pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: I can proof it, should I? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:35pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
RightChannel: Where's it? |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:35pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
RightChannel: Bring your attachment! |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 4:39pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: But Allah said He is one! Not multiple gods! |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 4:41pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:That’s what they said Hubal said. I know it’s hard to leave. I wrote an article on the Kaaba. https://www.nairaland.com/7717600/kaabas |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by 43Ronin: 5:02pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
@mayaman has closed the chapter. but yahwe and Allah and elohim mean the same thing. I have told you this before antichristIan. one person concocted both religion. if you turn upside-down the spelling of Allah in Arabic it spells yahwe in aramaic. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 5:04pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman: The Prophet ordered the destruction of all idols! And I didn't see Abraham and his son Ishmael in your story! |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 5:05pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Yea but not the black stones that represented them. The idols were placed side by side with the stones pre-islamic, other kaabas also had their own stones with different colors, but the one in quraysh was black. You can start from the etymology of the word “allah”.
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Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by Maynman: 5:10pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You think it was them that built the Kaaba? 😂😂 The link was on the origin of Kaaba. |
Re: What Does "Elohim" Really Mean, God or gods or both? by AntiChristian: 5:13pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Maynman:Which of these was Abraham and Ishmael involved in building? You can start from the etymology of the word “allah”.No be etymology i won chop! Proof! Hubal, Uzza, Manat and others were destroyed! |
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