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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by dynamicd28(m): 5:14pm On Oct 04, 2023
dynamicd28:


HACC responded on October 2nd, stating that the first application I submitted by mistake was cancelled on 21/09/2023. I successfully submitted a fresh application just now , the first application is still showing awaiting documents.

"We have encountered a problem.Please send an email to hacc@dha.gov.za and quote number : 4329253"

I got the above message while attempting to upload one of the required documents, its size is 4.6mb. Has anyone experienced something similar? I have sent a mail to HACC, from my experience they revert in two days, let's see what happens. This is for DHA evisa.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 8:22am On Oct 05, 2023
dynamicd28:


"We have encountered a problem.Please send an email to hacc@dha.gov.za and quote number : 4329253"

I got the above message while attempting to upload one of the required documents, its size is 4.6mb. Has anyone experienced something similar? I have sent a mail to HACC, from my experience they revert in two days, let's see what happens. This is for DHA evisa.

This code/error number you received has to do with how you uploaded the documents. Normally when the pdf or jpg picture isn't clear enough you will be given this error. also be aware that if you take a picture with your phone (example being a picture of your visa or passport bio) and upload the link you might encounter this error due to the image not being visible enough. Hope this helps mate
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 8:47am On Oct 05, 2023
DHS-EVISA TIP :

To all those applying via e-visa route be cautious that if you make a mistake per say you checked business visa rather than a different option such as a tourist visa or checked one of your parents as deceased and submitted the documents. After it has processed to the next phase asking for uploaded documents, be aware that you can't undo this mistake unless your entire application is processed. Now I know some of you will assume it will automatically reject your application after 14 days, that is not the case. DHS-E-Visa is a newly developed portal thus the so called service agents often at times don't regulate these things. If you wait, you might end up with no improvements for weeks to even months. You can send them an email but be aware that the email agents most times have nothing to do with those that actually view the documents to assure it's processed. That centre is different from the dhs e-visa agents centre hence why most of you keep getting generic emails with little or no help. it's as if they copy and paste message and send it to everyone to calm them down.

Those that are having issues with bank statements being rejected even when you've done all that is required (certified stamp and signatures), due to the proper lack of well trained workers most of these agents don't follow the proper guidelines and as such will still reject the bank statements because they are basing their decision on personal knowledge rather than following the e-visa refusal guidelines.

Another hidden information is each month embassies of South Africa depending of where you are applying from have a quota(certain amount they allow) whenever they reach this capacity they tend to refuse everyone else after that target is hit. you will all notice sometimes within a month or week everyone is getting rejected for no reason (bogus reason). dhs e-visa may not admit this but that is the actual truth. especially South Africa is known for this strategy. You will all remember that often at times before e-visa portal was open, vfs every now and then will tell applicants we are not accepting applications right now. that was always the truth behind it. They've done this to multiple African countries.

Hope this was useful

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Oluwamek: 10:45am On Oct 06, 2023
Good morning, please I need an advice.
I just got a rejection on my application, see excerpt below:

The reason for the decision is/are the following:
The proof of sufficient available financial means is not in the form of a recently bank certified statement forthe last three months
You may, within 10 working days from date of receipt of this notice, make written representations to the Director-General to review the decision.
Should you fail to make representations, or fail to keep the Department informed of your whereabouts, the decision set out above shall remain effective. It
is your responsibility to enquire about the outcome of your representations within 30 days after submission thereof.

It's a stamped and signed GTBank statement that was printed from the web and was also backed up with a reference letter from the Bank.

Please, what should I do?
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 11:59am On Oct 06, 2023
Oluwamek:
Good morning, please I need an advice.
I just got a rejection on my application, see excerpt below:

The reason for the decision is/are the following:
The proof of sufficient available financial means is not in the form of a recently bank certified statement forthe last three months
You may, within 10 working days from date of receipt of this notice, make written representations to the Director-General to review the decision.
Should you fail to make representations, or fail to keep the Department informed of your whereabouts, the decision set out above shall remain effective. It
is your responsibility to enquire about the outcome of your representations within 30 days after submission thereof.

It's a stamped and signed GTBank statement that was printed from the web and was also backed up with a reference letter from the Bank.

Please, what should I do?


To be sincere with you I feel they refused you on a generic base meaning they are doing this based on no solid reason as far as you've provided all the necessary bank certified documents. My advice is to file a new application all together. you can always try applying again either the evisa route or in person at vfs. if you choose to apply via evisa route see if you can get the branch manager to actually stamp the bank account documents rather than printing them online with the stamp and see if it makes any difference this time. Like I said earlier most of their rejections tend to be generic refusal for no tangible reason on the evisa form hence be ready that they may issue a similar response but all the same try and see if it's different.

Hope the first application didnt take you that long to get a response back. cheers mate

Do not attempt to appeal as the evisa currently isn't built for appeals although they make it sound like you can appeal with their generic response. You will end up wasting time and resource on an appeal. they currently don't have the resources nor the funds to cater to appeals yet.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 12:18pm On Oct 06, 2023
SOUTH AFRICA E-VISA FOR GHANAIANS:

If anyone has applied to the new South African e-visa implementation for Ghanaians Id like to know. Reason being is I want to know if there is a bias establishment as to how often they are refusing Nigerians in comparison to Ghanaians. if indeed we notice that Ghanaians are getting approved faster with less denials then we can draw a conclusion that indeed this e-visa route is rigged. I'm somehow expecting Ghanaians to get a bit of an easy route because the ambassador for South Africa to Ghana made it sound easy but then again don't they always say one thing and do something completely different.

So please any Ghanaian going through this new established method for your country let us know including the time it was approved. For for I've heard that when Ghanaians apply via evisa there is no fees and that you are met with 0 payment. Rest assured that means there is already a looming problem. they haven't activated the payment option yet hence you may be looking at over a month before you see any progress or indeed you've been granted 0 payment

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Oluwamek: 12:23pm On Oct 06, 2023
Thank you for your prompt response.
I applied on the 15th of September and got a response today.
I plan to go to the bank and get them to stamp the statement.
koffeed:



To be sincere with you I feel they refused you on a generic base meaning they are doing this based on no solid reason as far as you've provided all the necessary bank certified documents. My advice is to file a new application all together. you can always try applying again either the evisa route or in person at vfs. if you choose to apply via evisa route see if you can get the branch manager to actually stamp the bank account documents rather than printing them online with the stamp and see if it makes any difference this time. Like I said earlier most of their rejections tend to be generic refusal for no tangible reason on the evisa form hence be ready that they may issue a similar response but all the same try and see if it's different.

Hope the first application didnt take you that long to get a response back. cheers mate

Do not attempt to appeal as the evisa currently isn't built for appeals although they make it sound like you can appeal with their generic response. You will end up wasting time and resource on an appeal. they currently don't have the resources nor the funds to cater to appeals yet.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 12:37pm On Oct 06, 2023
Bammybestowed:


It was rejected, reason:invalid statement of account. Funny people, submitted an FNB statement of account as I live in SA and the application was for a minor. I guess once the eye is not there, it’s most likely a rejection. All the best to those waiting for a response.

There might have been various reasons as to why this happened to you. Normally for you to get rejected on an FNB bank account established in South Africa is very unlikely unless it was a generic rejection which I suspect but if not then this might have been the other probable cause:

FNB Bank in South Africa is actually the main primary bank South Africa home affairs uses hence if they rejected your statements then you possible didn't print out the statements that included the reference stamps on top of your bank statements. This newly designed reference stamp allows anyone you showcase your bank statements to easily verify your bank statements as they are able to go on FNB website and insert the reference official code number which will show them your entire bank statement for the month the code was on. It authenticates it. This is an implementation South African banks have started implementing to weed out fraud and schemes. My advice is if you didn't do this and you printed out the bank statement without that code then you will likely be rejected especially knowing that it is their Home affairs bank of choice.

Hope this helped. cheers mate
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 12:48pm On Oct 06, 2023
Oluwamek:
Thank you for your prompt response.
I applied on the 15th of September and got a response today.
I plan to go to the bank and get them to stamp the statement.

You welcome my friend and all the best and let us know the outcome.
when you pay the bank a visit see if you can let them stamp the statements with official dates on it as well. this will give your statements some solid evidence that this was done inside the branch as it will have a stamped date on it. Also when you upload it on your computer to send it, ensure you scan the entire statements so it gives it a clearer identity and convert it into a pdf after your scan. Hopefully you should be ok afterwards. cheers
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Oluwamek: 1:29pm On Oct 06, 2023
Thank you.
So, I just got back from the bank, GTBank doesn't print out statements anymore. They send it to you electronically.
I also asked about the stamp and they said they do not do that as the statement generated online is already stamped.
I will generate a new statement and reapply today.
I will be back with a positive news by God's grace.

koffeed:


You welcome my friend and all the best and let us know the outcome.
when you pay the bank a visit see if you can let them stamp the statements with official dates on it as well. this will give your statements some solid evidence that this was done inside the branch as it will have a stamped date on it. Also when you upload it on your computer to send it, ensure you scan the entire statements so it gives it a clearer identity and convert it into a pdf after your scan. Hopefully you should be ok afterwards. cheers
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 1:56pm On Oct 06, 2023
Oluwamek:
Thank you.
So, I just got back from the bank, GTBank doesn't print out statements anymore. They send it to you electronically.
I also asked about the stamp and they said they do not do that as the statement generated online is already stamped.
I will generate a new statement and reapply today.
I will be back with a positive news by God's grace.


Ok, don't worry you will be fine. I think in the future South Africa Home affairs just needs to understand that the same way their banking institutions have stopped issuing physical stamps and moved to electronically generated stamps on statements so has other countries and as such should alert their agents to incorporate this new changes into how they render approvals.

As always cheers mate and stay positive.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by abeylevels(m): 3:30pm On Oct 06, 2023
Hello Friends,

Thanks for the various contribution to help each other.
Pls i am planning to apply for the e-Visa for a conference next month.

I have 2 questions:

1)How can i get a flight booking that will be valid for the next 2 weeks during the e-Visa application?
How do you guys do it?

2) The location of my conference is in another province close to Cape Town. I have read on this forum that only Johannesburg airport(OR tambo) recognize e-Visa. I will like to know if this is true?
Can i book my flight directly from Lagos to the nearest airport to the conference area even if i do not land in OR tambo?

3) Another question pls: the flights i have seen online have 1 or 2 stops. Has there been anyone who travelled on e-Visa with stop over in other African countries?

4)Final question:do i need the police and medical report in my application?
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Africankel(m): 5:20pm On Oct 06, 2023
You will get another refusal with the reason "invalid account statement". After printing your bank statement, take it back to Gtb for stamping. They'll usually decline, but insist and let them know the embassy doesn't accept electronically stamped statements.

Oluwamek:
Thank you.
So, I just got back from the bank, GTBank doesn't print out statements anymore. They send it to you electronically.
I also asked about the stamp and they said they do not do that as the statement generated online is already stamped.
I will generate a new statement and reapply today.
I will be back with a positive news by God's grace.

Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by dexydidi(f): 5:13am On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
no

Read more here:
https://visa.vfsglobal.com/nga/en/zaf

My visa was denied for this reason.

However my yellow fever card does not even originate from nigeria but was issued in ghana. I am completely exhausted about this.

I sent them an email. What you all reckon I do?

Plus what does the last 10 days means? I mean the last column ?

Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 7:13am On Oct 07, 2023
abeylevels:
Hello Friends,

Thanks for the various contribution to help each other.
Pls i am planning to apply for the e-Visa for a conference next month.

I have 2 questions:

1)How can i get a flight booking that will be valid for the next 2 weeks during the e-Visa application?
How do you guys do it?

2) The location of my conference is in another province close to Cape Town. I have read on this forum that only Johannesburg airport(OR tambo) recognize e-Visa. I will like to know if this is true?
Can i book my flight directly from Lagos to the nearest airport to the conference area even if i do not land in OR tambo?

3) Another question pls: the flights i have seen online have 1 or 2 stops. Has there been anyone who travelled on e-Visa with stop over in other African countries?

4)Final question:do i need the police and medical report in my application?

1-You don't necessarily need the booking to last two whole weeks. you just need to be able to book with a reference number and a booking itinerary to showcase them. don't worry if it expires 72 hours if you don't physically purchase the ticket. You can use South African Airways on their website and choose the option pay later to get your booking.

2-As of today that information is categorically false. You will not be denied based on your visa being e-visa. initially in the early stages of evisa, most border agents at the airports had little knowledge about it hence why they needed to verify in South Africa be it Tambo airport, or any other airport but its been over a year now and I presume they've have the necessary training to get use to it by now. if anyone gives you trouble at the airpot just ask to speak to the supervisor. All airports in south Africa will give you access to the country provided you have your evisa paper document stating the validity of the visa, there is a bar scan code on it that they can now officially scan so you shouldn't have an issue, that bar code is the same as getting a physical stamp at the embassy.

3-South is not the only country practicing evisa so don't worry about layovers before reaching your final destination in South Africa. what's important is which ever country you transit through ensure that your Nigerian passport gives you a no visa needed to transit through that country, that's what is important. for instance if you need to go through Ghana you won't need it because of the Ecowas agreement but per say if you have to transit through Other countries in the south then verify online that Nigeria is visa exempt. Now if you need direct flight with little stress look into South African Airways as an option.

4- You do not need a police and medical clearance as a tourist visa. Now with that being said if you state on your evisa application that you've lived in another country for more than 12months the evisa system will ask you to include a police clearance for that country you resided in for more than 12months besides your actual country of citizenship. make Sure to avoid this part. Medical report is only needed if you decided to complicate things and say on the application that you have certain medical issues. Besides this medical report is needed if you are applying as a business visa which grants you long permanent stay to run and start a business in South Africa or if you are applying for anything besides tourist visa.

Cheers and pardon any typo you may come across on my reply. too exhausted to edit

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 7:25am On Oct 07, 2023
dexydidi:


My visa was denied for this reason.

However my yellow fever card does not even originate from nigeria but was issued in ghana. I am completely exhausted about this.

I sent them an email. What you all reckon I do?

Plus what does the last 10 days means? I mean the last column ?


The 10 days is just for appealing or disputing what they've issued you as a refusal. Personally don't bother trying to appeal it with a written report instead try and see if you can call the South African embassy directly and ask to speak to a consular. explain to them the the yellow fever issued is from Ghana and not Nigeria.

Now with that being said that is why you've been refused. The South African embassy in Nigeria is used to the Nigerian Yellow fever card and not the Ghanaian one hence why you presented it to them they thought it was a fabrication. Personally I would advice that you take the Ghanaian one to the clinic and have them issue you a new Nigerian yellow card based on the verification of the Ghanaian one. in other words there will be no need for you to get another series of vaccines because you already have your Ghanaian yellow card to show you've done so. It should be a simple process.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by dexydidi(f): 9:55am On Oct 07, 2023
koffeed:


The 10 days is just for appealing or disputing what they've issued you as a refusal. Personally don't bother trying to appeal it with a written report instead try and see if you can call the South African embassy directly and ask to speak to a consular. explain to them the the yellow fever issued is from Ghana and not Nigeria.

Now with that being said that is why you've been refused. The South African embassy in Nigeria is used to the Nigerian Yellow fever card and not the Ghanaian one hence why you presented it to them they thought it was a fabrication. Personally I would advice that you take the Ghanaian one to the clinic and have them issue you a new Nigerian yellow card based on the verification of the Ghanaian one. in other words there will be no need for you to get another series of vaccines because you already have your Ghanaian yellow card to show you've done so. It should be a simple process.



Does anybody have the consulars number?

I sent email to these email - i attached it. Do you think i would get a response.

I feel bad cus I even work with a south african company. Plus this visa application was very expensive as i even submitted police report to back up my application which cost me 30k

Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 10:10am On Oct 07, 2023
Blame your Politicians for the travails of a common Nigerian. Everyone typically sees us as fraudsters but we like to live in denial as a people. Is it not becoming obvious that the excuses for refusals by South Africa is as a result of a failed state.
Even when you attach original documents, everyone thinks it is fake.

- Invalid bank statement
- Invalid yellow fever card
- Invalid this and that ( Even when they are duly stamped)

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 10:13am On Oct 07, 2023
When did you submit this application.
dexydidi:


My visa was denied for this reason.

However my yellow fever card does not even originate from nigeria but was issued in ghana. I am completely exhausted about this.

I sent them an email. What you all reckon I do?

Plus what does the last 10 days means? I mean the last column ?

Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Additivesupplie: 10:27am On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
Blame your Politicians for the travails of a common Nigerian. Everyone typically sees us as fraudsters but we like to live in denial as a people. Is it not becoming obvious that the excuses for refusals by South Africa is as a result of a failed state.
Even when you attach original documents, everyone thinks it is fake.

- Invalid bank statement
- Invalid yellow fever card
- Invalid this and that ( Even when they are duly stamped)

Nigerian politicians are the ones selling drugs all over the republic?

Are they also the ones constituting nuisance in SA and the rest of the world?

South African Embassy don see shege with forged documents by Nigerian travel agent.

I can't blame them, it's their country and they have every right to deny any application.

Many diasporan don finished Nigeria reputation all over the world

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 11:06am On Oct 07, 2023
we are speaking the same langauge. It is a collective thing, but the politicians are not helping matters. Nigeria has a very terrible image which should be corrected unfortunately the sitting president has been entangled with alot of controversies needless talk about issues over the years. How can you not relate this with events over time
Additivesupplie:


Nigerian politicians are the ones selling drugs all over the republic?

Are they also the ones constituting nuisance in SA and the rest of the world?

South African Embassy don see shege with forged documents by Nigerian travel agent.

I can't blame them, it's their country and they have every right to deny any application.

Many diasporan don finished Nigeria reputation all over the world

Your assertion correlates mine with no iota of discrepancies.

We have alot of work to do.

To apply for visa in an African Country is even more tougher these days than some european countries. I saw some post wode maya page on facebook, and sure he did speak my mind on recent events.

Imagine working for a South African Company and your visa still get rejected. crazy!

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Additivesupplie: 12:04pm On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
we are speaking the same langauge. It is a collective thing, but the politicians are not helping matters. Nigeria has a very terrible image which should be corrected unfortunately the sitting president has been entangled with alot of controversies needless talk about issues over the years. How can you not relate this with events over time
Your assertion correlates mine with no iota of discrepancies.

We have alot of work to do.

To apply for visa in an African Country is even more tougher these days than some european countries. I saw some post wode maya page on facebook, and sure he did speak my mind on recent events.

Imagine working for a South African Company and your visa still get rejected. crazy!

The thing tire me honestly....

I stopped putting the blame on government some while ago when I started looking outside the box..... Government did not fall from sky, the peoples make the government.

You see ehn, Nigerians abroad has badly put the country reputation to the garbage.

Whenever I travelled and see how some Nigerians behave overseas makes me wanna hide my identity but for me, I still stand gidigba as a Nigerians. But it's what it is.


It's better Nigerians should stay away from south African Embassy for now,,,,
Only them actually knows the fuse they have with Nigeria.

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 12:09pm On Oct 07, 2023
Additivesupplie:


The thing tire me honestly....

I stopped putting the blame on government some while ago when I started looking outside the box..... Government did not fall from sky, the peoples make the government.

You see ehn, Nigerians abroad has badly put the country reputation to the garbage.

Whenever I travelled and see how some Nigerians behave overseas makes me wanna hide my identity but for me, I still stand gidigba as a Nigerians. But it's what it is.


It's better Nigerians should stay away from south African Embassy for now,,,,
Only them actually knows the fuse they have with Nigeria.

Each country has its own problems as well as its merits, we as Africans must reframe from always attacking one another when matters such as this arises. Indeed, a corrupt government or institution contributes towards the behaviour of it’s civilians but nevertheless we must try to treat each other with respect and integrity. Life is hard as It is, thus to sit behind the comfort of one’s home and furiously lash out at another brother or sister is simply demoralizing. Bear in mind that before there was ever a country to divide us we were all simply humans residing in one continent. This idealistic notion of your country is better than mine is a fairytale of an ignorant soul. This platform was created to assist with the needs of our fellow brothers and sisters and it should stay that way. Let us maintain some respect for our fellow Africans regardless of which country they’ve been subjected to.

Always remember that a country doesn't define a man’s destiny, a man rather defines a country’s destiny.

If it is not too much to ask, I will go back to assisting those that need advice on how to go about achieving this e-visa debacle. As always gentlemen, it’s been a pleasure.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 4:53pm On Oct 07, 2023
Additivesupplie:


The thing tire me honestly....

I stopped putting the blame on government some while ago when I started looking outside the box..... Government did not fall from sky, the peoples make the government.

You see ehn, Nigerians abroad has badly put the country reputation to the garbage.

Whenever I travelled and see how some Nigerians behave overseas makes me wanna hide my identity but for me, I still stand gidigba as a Nigerians. But it's what it is.


It's better Nigerians should stay away from south African Embassy for now,,,,
Only them actually knows the fuse they have with Nigeria.
Boycotting their visas maybe an option for real. Refusals keeps spilling in.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by antzlaive(m): 5:47pm On Oct 07, 2023
This request for death certificate of ones parents when uploading documents. Can one just tell them it's not available. Where I want go see death certificate?
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 7:01pm On Oct 07, 2023
You see this diplomacy is reason why we are here today. No one want to talk or be called out for the ills in the society gravely killing innocent peoples destiny. I spoke to a friend who has been in SA for more than 9 years. Despite all her connects, she lament of not been able to get a job because the system prefers to favor her own people against foreigners. If Americas and the rest of the world was that way, alot of you that seek greener pastures abroad will not be able to go there! There has to be an equilibrium. A system where you are seen as a criminal immediately you present your passport at the airport is a bad system. This transcends from our society to what people see and perceive about us. We must not shy away from the issues in other to create awareness and better orientation. FYI, alot of people can be rehabilitated and become better persons by reading and hearing some of the things been discussed here. Everytime is not visa visa, let us always deliberate and engage ourselves on issues affecting visa refusals so everyone can be better enlightened.
koffeed:


Each country has its own problems as well as its merits, we as Africans must reframe from always attacking one another when matters such as this arises. Indeed, a corrupt government or institution contributes towards the behaviour of it’s civilians but nevertheless we must try to treat each other with respect and integrity. Life is hard as It is, thus to sit behind the comfort of one’s home and furiously lash out at another brother or sister is simply demoralizing. Bear in mind that before there was ever a country to divide us we were all simply humans residing in one continent. This idealistic notion of your country is better than mine is a fairytale of an ignorant soul. This platform was created to assist with the needs of our fellow brothers and sisters and it should stay that way. Let us maintain some respect for our fellow Africans regardless of which country they’ve been subjected to.

Always remember that a country doesn't define a man’s destiny, a man rather defines a country’s destiny.

If it is not too much to ask, I will go back to assisting those that need advice on how to go about achieving this e-visa debacle. As always gentlemen, it’s been a pleasure.

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 7:20pm On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
You see this diplomacy is reason why we are here today. No one want to talk or be called out for the ills in the society gravely killing innocent peoples destiny. I spoke to a friend who has been in SA for more than 9 years. Despite all her connects, she lament of not been able to get a job because the system prefers to favor her own people against foreigners. If Americas and the rest of the world was that way, alot of you that seek greener pastures abroad will not be able to go there! There has to be an equilibrium. A system where you are seen as a criminal immediately you present your passport at the airport is a bad system. This transcends from our society to what people see and perceive about us. We must not shy away from the issues in other to create awareness and better orientation. FYI, alot of people can be rehabilitated and become better persons by reading and hearing some of the things been discussed here. Everytime is not visa visa, let us always deliberate and engage ourselves on issues affecting visa refusals so everyone can be better enlightened.

Truth be told I do fancy a splendid engagement of different minds as long as it doesn't welcome an aggressive tone from those participating in such debates hence by all means I do share your opinion to a certain degree. Now, If I may also interject I'd like to bring forth some truth to others since we've decided to enlighten our thoughts concerning South Africa and it's mishaps of handling governmental and civilian issues such as immigration and others.

I think often at times the unrealistic comparisons of European countries to African countries is absurd and I say this with the kindest heart. To compare European countries or the western countries governance to that of South Africa is like comparing a man in his 70’s to that of an infant or better yet a boy in his early teens. Gentlemen let’s dissect this for a second if you can permit me………….Europe has had over thousands of years with governance including scientific research, human behavior analysis and so forth whereas South Africa has had less than 30 years of governance under it’s own people. Remember gentlemen that it wasn’t too long ago that they gain independence, fact is most of us are older than the independence of south Africa. So please do not be surprised when they are making so many terrible mistakes. Rome as I recall wasn’t built in a day. To get to a level of proper communication with less chaos within a country will require an extensive amount of educating its people and if history serves my little knowledge right it wasn’t too long ago before South Africans (the real Africans) where permitted to educate themselves. Often at times we forget that citizens of that country have suffered immensely trying to survive and cater to themselves. Ask yourself one valid question, ever wonder why south Africa’s median age is 17years old?

You see I expect South Africa to continue making countless mistakes with it’s corrupt governance because they do not have the proper knowledge yet to govern themselves…..they will eventually get there at some point but for now be kind to it’s civilians. Look at Ghana, for a beautiful country that gained it’s independence in 1957 yet they are still swimming in a corrupt governance and so is the rest of the African countries. We must come together and be lenient on ourselves instead of always comparing ourselves to foreign continents.
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by koffeed: 7:31pm On Oct 07, 2023
antzlaive:
This request for death certificate of ones parents when uploading documents. Can one just tell them it's not available. Where I want go see death certificate?

I know, it makes no sense as to why they are asking for death certificates of deceased parents to the extent of asking the same of your spouses parents if you choose the deceased option. You can possibly add an affidavit swearing that you don't have the death certificate of the "said" decease person and possibly explain that it's been such a long time with other factors included. Afterwards get the affidavit notarised and add it in replacement of the death certificate. Hopefully that should be enough.

For all those that are wondering, be prepared to be asked for death certificate validation if you decide to choose deceased for one of your parents or your spouses parents, as well as your spouse if he or she is deceased. Simple solution will be to avoid saying so for now until thy fix that error
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Anniebam: 8:18pm On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
You see this diplomacy is reason why we are here today. No one want to talk or be called out for the ills in the society gravely killing innocent peoples destiny. I spoke to a friend who has been in SA for more than 9 years. Despite all her connects, she lament of not been able to get a job because the system prefers to favor her own people against foreigners. If Americas and the rest of the world was that way, alot of you that seek greener pastures abroad will not be able to go there! There has to be an equilibrium. A system where you are seen as a criminal immediately you present your passport at the airport is a bad system. This transcends from our society to what people see and perceive about us. We must not shy away from the issues in other to create awareness and better orientation. FYI, alot of people can be rehabilitated and become better persons by reading and hearing some of the things been discussed here. Everytime is not visa visa, let us always deliberate and engage ourselves on issues affecting visa refusals so everyone can be better enlightened.

Hmmm, I can’t believe you are saying this. When that nonsense human came here few months ago to insult Nigerians, these are some of the end results. A country where a good portion of the citizens think there misfortune is due to foreigners and they begin to witch hunt immigrants whether you like it or not everyone must suffer the consequences. This is why we were trying to correct the criminal narrative associated with Nigerians living in South Africa, the prejudice, segregation and discrimination is appalling. So many honest Nigerians here without jobs, most have to resort to business because of the constant rejection due to your nationality. I can’t count how many jobs I have applied to on indeed which I know I am beyond qualified for but 98% of the time I don’t even get a call back talk more of an interview.
If you are a Nigerian planning on coming to SA for vacation, my advise, suspend your plans for now, these people don’t want you in their country and if you are living in South Africa fully, please start planning your exit, a country where the people have so much hate against you and can turn on you at any given time is genuinely not worth it in my opinion so don’t be too relaxed in this country.
If you want more insight as to how much this people hate foreigners, go and watch the latest BBC documentary on YouTube detailing the horrific attack on immigrants.

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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 8:33pm On Oct 07, 2023
We are all in this together and we must champion that change. I just advised the said lady to begin to plan her relocation to Nigeria. It is been 9 years of fruitless journey. I said this and i will say it again, WE MUST NOT AND STOP LIVING IN DENIAL. This particular person i am talking about has been so adarmant to leave SA inspite all these developing issues unfortunately that is the problems that come with these things. Suffering and smiling would not be our thing if we get it right, as it stands , all of us are still speaking the same language. TOTAL RESTORATION OF NIGERIA'S LOST GLORY- That is all we want.
Anniebam:


Hmmm, I can’t believe you are saying this. When that nonsense human came here few months ago to insult Nigerians, these are some of the end results. A country where a good portion of the citizens think there misfortune is due to foreigners and they begin to witch hunt immigrants whether you like it or not everyone must suffer the consequences. This is why we were trying to correct the criminal narrative associated with Nigerians living in South Africa, the prejudice, segregation and discrimination is appalling. So many honest Nigerians here without jobs, most have to resort to business because of the constant rejection due to your nationality. I can’t count how many jobs I have applied to on indeed which I know I am beyond qualified for but 98% of the time I don’t even get a call back talk more of an interview.
If you are a Nigerian planning on coming to SA for vacation, my advise, suspend your plans for now, these people don’t want you in their country and if you are living in South Africa fully, please start planning your exit, a country where the people have so much hate against you and can turn on you at any given time is genuinely not worth it in my opinion so don’t be too relaxed in this country.
If you want more insight as to how much this people hate foreigners, go and watch the latest BBC documentary on YouTube detailing the horrific attack on immigrants.

All you said here was discussed more than 3hours on the phone. I still dont understand why so many are hell bent on remaining in SA inspite all these recent issues.
My prayer is that it does not give rise to another round of xenophobic attacks, because to be honest, the tension is high and we must accept this bitter truth to move forward.


Finally, For you all that always expect me to say everything is fine, "it is well" . Me and you know Nigeria is not well at all. The taxi council in SA has been striking for months. Many African countries are not feeling fine at all, the people must continue to talk. That is why military coups are becoming the order of the day.

I will use every opportunity to speak about the ills in the society we live and profer solutions as a concerned citizen. Nobody can coach me on sugarcoating my country. Things are not right we know, and hope for the best , Yes! but we will continue to talk about the ills just like how America talks about racial profiling and Gun violence advocacy now and then. We must continue to air our genuine and concerned opinions on issues as it affects us.

I have the uttmost respect for peoples opinions on public platforms especially if it concerns our society but just imagine a Nigeria without people like Femi Falana, The late Fela Kuti, The Matyr Erudite Human Right Activist OF Blessed Memory, Chief Gani Fawenhmi, Bamidele Aturu, David Hundeyin, Just to mention a few, we would be in total shambles by now.

Peoples active participation on national issues serves as oversight and checks and balances for the people in government. Just so you all know, I am socially inclined, so my views on issues may always not be the same or as expected however i accept everyones thought on issues for logical assessment.


Goodnight all!
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Anniebam: 8:53pm On Oct 07, 2023
hunee:
We are all in this together and we must champion that change. I just advised the said lady to begin to plan her relocation to Nigeria. It is been 9 years of fruitless journey. I said this and i will say it again, WE MUST NOT AND STOP LIVING IN DENIAL. This particular person i am talking about has been so adarmant to leave SA inspite all these developing issues unfortunately that is the problems that come with these things. Suffering and smiling would not be our thing if we get it right, as it stands , all of us are still speaking the same language. TOTAL RESTORATION OF NIGERIA'S LOST GLORY- That is all we want.

All you said here was discussed more than 3hours on the phone. I still dont understand why so many are hell bent on remaining in SA inspite all these recent issues.
My prayer is that it does not give rise to another round of xenophobic attacks, because to be honest, the tension is high and we must accept this bitter truth to move forward.


Finally, For you all that always expect me to say everything is fine, "it is well" . Me and you know Nigeria is not well at all. The taxi council in SA has been striking for months. Many African countries are not feeling fine at all, the people must continue to talk. That is why military coups are becoming the order of the day.

I will use every opportunity to speak about the ills in the society we live and profer solutions as a concerned citizen. Nobody can coach me on sugarcoating my country. Things are not right we know, and hope for the best , Yes! but we will continue to talk about the ills just like how America talks about racial profiling and Gun violence advocacy now and then. We must continue to air our genuine and concerned opinions on issues as it affects us.


Goodnight all!

Every country has its ills, Nigeria is not an exception. Our image/reputation however precedes us. South Africa as a country is tolling the same route as Nigeria right now, their economy is deteriorating badly, crime rate is on the highest yet you will not see them come out to castigate their own citizens. The media is already doing all the publicizing we need regarding the ills in Nigeria so any opportunity we get should be used to promote the other side people don’t get to see.
That being said, he that has ear, let him hear, DO NOT MAKE SA YOUR FINAL DESTINATION. Selah.

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