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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by jamesversion: 9:08am On Oct 28, 2023
I can't be comfortable with the thought of Gas cylinder inside my booth.

In the case of a serious accident and then the Gas cylinder get tosed about in the car, that could lead to an explosion.

Except if they are saying the Gas doest explode.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Nimen(m): 9:11am On Oct 28, 2023
Have entered a cng powered cab in benin city 2014. It can be safe

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by pquaver(m): 9:12am On Oct 28, 2023
GAZZUZZ:
Having satisfied all requirements, let the conversion begin.


Starting from front to back, First create enough space in the engine bay By removing the bonnet, intake manifold and any accessories that follow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf8QL07P4M8?feature=shared



Has any one thought about Nigerian Drivers and their recklessness? God save us from explosionooooo
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Willie2015: 9:18am On Oct 28, 2023
We don't think in Naija...
I am highly disappointed in Tinubu administration....
I expect them to focus on building rail networks across all regions...
States and six regions should be connected via rails..
for human and cargo transportation..
Let the masses move to rails as an affordable means of transportation
While elites that have excess resources can drive cars using petrol or CNG...
Whats diffilcult in replicating the Abuja.Kaduna style accross the country ?

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by loba18: 9:19am On Oct 28, 2023
GAZZUZZ:
Types of CNG KITS

There are 2 basic types of CNG kits in the market , the Sequential Kit and the Venturi Kit. Here’s how the two are different:

Venturi

Venturi CNG kits is a term that refers to the CNG mixing unit and how it delivers gas to the engine. Venturi kits are generally cheaper to install and less complex than sequential kits. A venturi kit behaves like a carburetor which dumps a fixed volume of gas based on throttle demand directly into the intake of the engine. A venturi-type CNG kit can be applied on any type of vehicle, whether it’s carburetor driven or fuel-injected, with or without an ECU.
This type of CNG delivery is not very accurate and hence there are downsides of incorrect tuning that happen with venturi-type CNG kits.

The disadvantage of a venturi-type CNG kit is that since it feeds a fixed amount of gas into the intake , there are issues of loss of pickup and stalling occasionally, when there is too much or too little gas in the system. It needs to be frequently serviced and calibrated accurately, which not everyone can get right.

Advantages of the venturi type of CNG kit is its low cost of installation.

No complicated wiring or sensors .

Relatively simple system to install.


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Bullying people online has turned you into a shy guy, you couldn't even look into the camera. I was expecting to see a tall, huge guy. Thanks for the heads up.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by ford101: 9:35am On Oct 28, 2023
Akwamkpuruamu:


If people follow this your thinking, invention will never happen. You have a big fear of trying out something new
so the white manufacturer of petrol car are fools.so you want me to trust you black monkey with my life for something you can't manufacturer but trying to manipulate. Only a fool will listen to you.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by soccerlite: 9:37am On Oct 28, 2023
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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by soccerlite: 9:41am On Oct 28, 2023
Willie2015:
We don't think in Naija...
I am highly disappointed in Tinubu administration....
I expect them to focus on building rail networks across all regions...
States and six regions should be connected via rails..
for human and cargo transportation..
Let the masses move to rails as an affordable means of transportation
While elites that have excess resources can drive cars using petrol or CNG...
Whats diffilcult in replicating the Abuja.Kaduna style accross the country ?













People that think in nigeria are very few
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Jangbajantis: 9:51am On Oct 28, 2023
Ah! Op said a full tank CNG will cover lower miles than a full tank petrol and diesel. So comparatively it's not really cheap in that sense. The more you look the less you see.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Andybestco(m): 10:01am On Oct 28, 2023
They should make it available in every state and area before they launch... So that everybody will benefit it not to specialize for set of people alone...
I rest my case
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by searchng4love: 10:10am On Oct 28, 2023
loba18:


Bullying people online has turned you into a shy guy, you couldn't even look into the camera. I was expecting to see a tall, huge guy. Thanks for the heads up.

You people never disappoint

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by ojamall: 10:20am On Oct 28, 2023
Jangbajantis:
Ah! Op said a full tank CNG will cover lower miles than a full tank petrol and diesel. So comparatively it's not really cheap in that sense. The more you look the less you see.
He was talking about range (distance that your car will cover at a certain fuel level, in this case, when your car is filled up with either gas or petrol). So, he is saying when your car is filled up with a 60L of petrol, you will travel more distance than when it is filled up with 60L of gas. But of course price of gas/L is cheaper than price of petrol/L. FYI, CNG is sold in SCM. 60L CNG tank will take about 12-15SCM of CNG depending on pressure and where you refill. So, at N200/SCM retail price, cost to fill up 60L CNG is between N2,400 and N3,000 compared to petrol of N36,000 for same 60L.
The common denominator to determine the cheaper one is to do a calc on cost/KM which OP already did.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Jangbajantis: 10:24am On Oct 28, 2023
ojamall:

He was talking about range (distance that your car will cover at a certain fuel level, in this case, when your car is filled up with either gas or petrol). So, he is saying when your car is filled up with a 60L of petrol, you will travel more distance than when it is filled up with 60L of gas. But of course price of gas/L is cheaper than price of petrol/L. FYI, CNG is sold in SCM. 60L CNG tank will take about 12-15SCM of CNG depending on pressure and where you refill. So, at N200/SCM retail price, cost to fill up 60L CNG is between N2,400 and N3,000 compared to petrol of N36,000 for same 60L.
The common denominator to determine the cheaper one is to do a calc on cost/KM which OP already did.
Are you talking about speed or consumption? If it's speed, it's understandable and people would grab it. Who speed help? But if it's consumption (as in, which one burns faster) then fuel although costlier will still be preferred.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by vannessa7(f): 10:33am On Oct 28, 2023
President Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the pathfinder, the game changer, I'm excitedly waiting for more of his ingenuity. I remember when he started the BRT lane in Lagos state, it was met with complain by some people, also when he established LASTMA, millennium schools, new LG offices etc, creating jobs, expanding civilization πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒ Nigerians should get ready for a pleasant ride, patience is key. Asiwaju, the front runner

God bless Nigeria
God bless all Nigerians
God bless President Bola Ahmed Tinubu

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by GAZZUZZ(m): 10:34am On Oct 28, 2023
ojamall:

He was talking about range (distance that your car will cover at a certain fuel level, in this case, when your car is filled up with either gas or petrol). So, he is saying when your car is filled up with a 60L of petrol, you will travel more distance than when it is filled up with 60L of gas. But of course price of gas/L is cheaper than price of petrol/L. FYI, CNG is sold in SCM. 60L CNG tank will take about 12-15SCM of CNG depending on pressure and where you refill. So, at N200/SCM retail price, cost to fill up 60L CNG is between N2,400 and N3,000 compared to petrol of N36,000 for same 60L.
The common denominator to determine the cheaper one is to do a calc on cost/KM which OP already did.

Thank you

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by ojamall: 10:39am On Oct 28, 2023
Jangbajantis:

Are you talking about speed or consumption? If it's speed, it's understandable and people would grab it. Who speed help? But if it's consumption (as in, which one burns faster) then fuel although costlier will still be preferred.
I am not talking about speed. It is "consumption"...but I will like to know how you came to conclusion that a more expensive option will be preferred?
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Penisman: 10:43am On Oct 28, 2023
Akwamkpuruamu:


If people follow this your thinking, invention will never happen. You have a big fear of trying out something new

Leave the hermaphrodite alone. ..

But he is not afraid of putting his small ddick inside a girl's ppussy, even when he lacks the knowledge of how deep the hole is

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Jangbajantis: 10:46am On Oct 28, 2023
ojamall:

I am not talking about speed. It is "consumption"...but I will like to know how you came to conclusion that a more expensive option will be preferred?
Take this example: fill up two cars and put them on the road, one with petrol and the other with CNG, let's say both with 60cl. Destination is Benin City.

Fuel car reaches destination in 3 hours with 40cl, remaining 20cl.

CNG car reaches destination with the exact 60cl in about 5 to 6 hours.

So I believe most people would prefer fuel although more expensive.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by Jangbajantis: 10:49am On Oct 28, 2023
This is exactly what I'm referring to.

5. Limited range. Now that's a bummer. A vehicle equipped with a 2.0 to 2.4 cubic capacity engine running on a 65-85L CNG tank will cover about 200km on a full tank. Long distance trips will need breaks to fill up unlike petrol powered vehicles that can cover an average of 600km on a full tank.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by ojamall: 11:17am On Oct 28, 2023
Jangbajantis:

Take this example: fill up two cars and put them on the road, one with petrol and the other with CNG, let's say both with 60cl. Destination is Benin City.

Fuel car reaches destination in 3 hours with 40cl, remaining 20cl.

CNG car reaches destination with the exact 60cl in about 5 to 6 hours.

So I believe most people would prefer fuel although more expensive.

You got it wrongly here....range has nothing with speed or time taken to reach a destination.
In your example, it should be more of ;
Car A & Car B travels similar distance,

Car A consumed 10L costing N6,000 and
Car B consumed 10 SCM of CNG which is equivalent of 50L of CNG costing N2,000

Again, it has nothing to do with speed or time taken to get to destination

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by ojamall: 11:20am On Oct 28, 2023
Jangbajantis:
This is exactly what I'm referring to.




But that was not what you explained. How does this affect timing except for 15minutes break to refill CNG as CNG station?
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by NoChill: 11:40am On Oct 28, 2023
GAZZUZZ:
Having satisfied all requirements, let the conversion begin.


Starting from front to back, First create enough space in the engine bay By removing the bonnet, intake manifold and any accessories that follow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf8QL07P4M8?feature=shared
What about Bio Gas, and how can it be integrated into this mechanism


Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by zoedew: 11:52am On Oct 28, 2023
GAZZUZZ:


The Basics of CNG Conversion Kit Installation

DISCLAIMER
This post has been produced and written for educational purposes only. Gazzuzz strongly recommends that all CNG conversions be completed by an experienced Certified mechanic familiar with CNG systems.

Before performing any installation, you should be familiar with all common governing regulations applicable to CNG conversions.


https://youtube.com/shorts/DbeUmDekDIk?si=I_rQT72PtZy5ivmU



It is 2023 and subsidy on PMS petrol is gone! The cost of moving from one point to the other has tripled due to the rise in fueling costs, but there is fuel which has been around for quite some time, but no one really paid so much attention to it, it is called CNG compressed natural gas . I can remember as far back as 2016 when bus drivers loading Lagos to Ibadan had converted buses and would fill up at mowe ibafo area before heading to Ibadan so it's been around for a while commercially.

So how is CNG gotten and why is it cheaper than conventional fuels (diesel, petrol , kerosine, LPG ).

Compressed natural Gas in its basic form is found in the ground while drilling for crude oil. The gas is then separated from oil goes through several levels of purification , then is compressed to about 3600 pounds per square inch.
CNG is cheaper because you do not need a billion dollar refinery to process the end product, the cost of separation and purification is relatively very cheap.

Unlike the other derivatives of crude oil (diesel, petrol , kerosine , jet fuel etc) that are controlled by worldΒ  crude oil prices, CNG is in a world of its own, not in competition with any fuels.

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THE WEIGHT OF THE GAS IN THE CYLINDER IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE TO RUNNING A VEHICLE WITH CNG.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by skj1377(m): 12:11pm On Oct 28, 2023
How much to convert s430 Benz 2006 model from petrol to sequential gas. Hope both systems can work one at a time
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by bobbiiee: 12:20pm On Oct 28, 2023
Going by what I heard the conversion cost is high.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by keymatt(m): 12:36pm On Oct 28, 2023
Make I pack here and observe with fried chips 🍟. Agbado popcorn 🍿 is not my portion.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by 99thEnemy(m): 12:43pm On Oct 28, 2023
They didn't mention more car explosions during accidents.

Also on highways when police or robbers decide to shoot at your boot. undecided
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by mctech(m): 12:54pm On Oct 28, 2023
The government should ensure a regular supply of CNG so that private individuals can establish gas stations such as is done for petrol and cooking gas.

We need a mass training program, probably affiliated to a renowned auto technician like Gazzuzz, Automedic etc to train our youths. Certification should be provided to prevent half-baked technicians.

Also, just as people are importing phone accessories and generator parts, the importation of CNG conversion kits should be regulated (quality) and incentivized (duty free).

The present problem is a great opportunity for all.

As I said to someone last month, just like coal faded into oblivion as a source of energy, fossil fuels (petrol, kerosene, diesel) are on their way out.
Gas is the future though solar too could have a very little share of the market.

Fellow Nigerians, how do we maximize this opportunity.

So much money to be made.

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by GAZZUZZ(m): 12:58pm On Oct 28, 2023
99thEnemy:
They didn't mention more car explosions during accidents.

Also on highways when police or robbers decide to shoot at your boot. undecided

6mm thick steel is bullet proof, it will not even dent it in an accident .

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Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by GAZZUZZ(m): 12:59pm On Oct 28, 2023
mctech:
The government should ensure a regular supply of CNG so that private individuals can establish gas stations such as is done for petrol and cooking gas.

We need a mass training program, probably affiliated to a renowned auto technician like Gazzuzz, Automedic etc to train our youths. Certification should be provided to prevent half-baked technicians.

Also, just as people are importing phone accessories and generator parts, the importation of CNG conversion kits should be regulated (quality) and incentivized (duty free).

The present problem is a great opportunity for all.

As I said to someone last month, just like coal faded into oblivion as a source of energy, fossil fuels (petrol, kerosene, diesel) are on their way out.
Gas is the future though solar too could have a very little share of the market.

Fellow Nigerians, how do we maximize this opportunity.

So much money to be made.
Re: Demystifying CNG in Automobiles by teepain: 1:17pm On Oct 28, 2023
Jangbajantis:
Ah! Op said a full tank CNG will cover lower miles than a full tank petrol and diesel. So comparatively it's not really cheap in that sense. The more you look the less you see.

I have been better informed by your exchanges with the other guy.

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