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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 7:03pm On Nov 03, 2023
GabrielYulaw:


I watched the video yesterday night and was hella confused. It was this morning that someone explained to me that the first RPG put on the tank was meant to disable the Trophy APS. The second RPG was then fired for a mobility/mission kill. That's rather ingenious but dangerous.

As for the IDF losing large numbers, it probably had to do with their lack of recent wars. In 2006 when the Party of Good took hostages and triggered a war, the IDF were beaten silly. That was because the most experience their soldiers had was beating or shooting unarmed Palestinians. But after that war, they went back to the drawing board and got their shit together. But since then, the IDF has not faced the kind of opposition that the Party of God gave them in 2006 and their expertise and awareness has atrophied and some on Twitter now call them TikTok soldiers wink. Plus they don't regard Palestinian as humans and that leads makes them discount their skills and intelligence.
Dunno how this will play out, but it is not good.

Edit 1: I forgot to add the impact of new tech. Drones are now premier and the war in Ukraine has shown how even the simplest drones can disable or kill armored vehicles, or fvck up troops. Hamas has learned lessons from that war and is applying them.


Another crazy video from HAMAS.
This guys got balls, getting close to a Markeva MBT and destroying it. I think the Tank was abandoned, we are beginning to see what Russia's also did, leaving their knocked-out tanks.
This will be a very long war for Israel this time around.


https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1720467653167325268?t=cNVUw1AY3nom5MwINz_VTw&s=19

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 8:03pm On Nov 03, 2023
bidex111:



Another crazy video from HAMAS.
This guys got balls, getting close to a Markeva MBT and destroying it. I think the Tank was abandoned, we are beginning to see what Russia's also did, leaving their knocked-out tanks.
This will be a very long war for Israel this time around.


https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1720467653167325268?t=cNVUw1AY3nom5MwINz_VTw&s=19

I don't think it was abandoned. And no, it wasn't knocked out because there was no obvious damage.

They put an RPG on the tank to disable its APS. And then fired a tandem warhead Yasin to damage the tank. It wasn't destroyed.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 8:36pm On Nov 03, 2023
GabrielYulaw:


I don't think it was abandoned. And no, it wasn't knocked out because there was no obvious damage.

They put an RPG on the tank to disable its APS. And then fired a tandem warhead Yasin to damage the tank. It wasn't destroyed.


The RPG warhead was placed beside the Amno storage, I doubt if that tank would survive that.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 10:13pm On Nov 03, 2023
bidex111:



The RPG warhead was placed beside the Amno storage, I doubt if that tank would survive that.

Ammo storage? Bros, ammo is not stored on the outside of a tank. Folks on Twitter are saying that the first RPG was to disable the APS and the second was to enforce a mobility kill on the tank. I agree with their analysis.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 11:04pm On Nov 03, 2023
GabrielYulaw:


Ammo storage? Bros, ammo is not stored on the outside of a tank. Folks on Twitter are saying that the first RPG was to disable the APS and the second was to enforce a mobility kill on the tank. I agree with their analysis.


smiley
I didn't say the ammo is stored outside ?
Part of the Markeva MBT ammo is stored at the rear and it was indicated in the video, the explosion only just needs the ammo stored at the rear to cook-up and boom.
the 3rd picture is not a recent one; its one of the two Mrkeva MBT lost during the 2nd Lebanon war, similar thing happened. there was a hit at the rear that set up the ammo.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 11:15pm On Nov 03, 2023
The Nigerian Airforce have confirmed the obliteration of terrorists at Degbawa in Mandara Mountain, and released photos of the strikes.

Precision air strikes by the Air Component of Operation Hadin Kai (OPHK) on 2 November 2023, have led to the elimination of several terrorists at their meeting point near Degbawa, a reclusive location within the Mandara Mountains in Gwoza Local Government Area of Borno State. The air strikes were called for after intelligence revealed the sighting of some key terrorists’ figures and their foot soldiers arriving the location in the last 2 days for a probable meeting. Their gathering in large number yesterday afternoon near Degbawa raised concerns, thus necessitating the need for an air interdiction on the location with devastating outcome for the terrorists. An assessment of the location after the strike revealed a large number of terrorists were indeed eliminated.

According to several sources, this particular location was carefully chosen by the terrorists to evade being easily detected especially by NAF aircraft. The outcome of the strike however proved the terrorists wrong as their nefarious plans to meet was detected, thus leading to the success of the air strike. The sources also noted that this strike was a major set back for the terrorists who have, of late, been at the receiving end of the air and land components of OPHK. Another source also noted that these terrorists were responsible for the recent attack on some locals in Geidam and had planned to meet to review the attack as well as plan the next line of attack on innocent civilians and other vulnerable targets.

When contacted, NAF spokesperson and Director of Public Relations and Information, Air Commodore Edward Gabkwet, confirmed the attack at Degbawa and reassured Nigerians that the NAF will continue to go after these terrorists until they lay down their arms or are eliminated.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 12:56pm On Nov 04, 2023
bidexiii:



The extent of support this millitia group gets is somehow questionable? I watched a video on X of how an Israeli airforce F35 intercepts a cruise missile heading for Israel. This war is going to excaliate in no time, because the Israeli Defence Force that I know will not back down till most of this tunnels are found and destroyed.

The Israeli forces are loosing soldiers on unprecedented numbers, I think they have to change there tactics, just watched a video now of how these millitant getting close to tank an destroying it. No IFV or soldiers protecting tanks from being shot from close range. The full war hasn't began and the casualties from IDF is high, this will be a long war for them.


https://twitter.com/AndreiBtvt/status/1720151690874134886?t=LeSNra2tOyujfdiRCmedIg&s=19


https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1719861122017137086?t=xQfLfeDnd8Ir6zxkvUJ0Lw&s=19

Unprecedented, that is since the yom Kippur war? Most likely. Heavy? Not at all. Definitely there will be ambushes and people will die and propaganda will be generated from it.

However, this is not Russo-Ukraine where you have two conventional militaries with heavy guns, sophisticated intelligence, economy and access to billions of dollars in funding.

Hamas simply lacks the capacity to cause any IDF losses of statistical significance to warrant any change of tactics. Conventional warfare ultimately boils down to how big your guns compare to the enemy. Already Gaza has been cut into two and the city is besieged.

I think you're right about Israel not backing down though. They believe it's their last opportunity to end Hamas. I feel for Palestinians. Although majority of them support Hamas, anyone that does not participate in conflict is innocent.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 2:41pm On Nov 04, 2023
OPSH TROOPS BUST ANOTHER ILLEGAL WEAPON MANUFACTURING FACTORY, RECOVER OVER 20 CACHE OF AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, ARREST 2 PERSONS

In a major breakthrough, troops of Operation SAFE HAVEN (OPSH) have successfully uncovered and dismantled an illegal weapon manufacturing factory in Vom, Jos South Local Government Area of Plateau State. The operation which was based on actionable intelligence, marks a significant step in the ongoing efforts of OPSH to combat illicit arms proliferation and ensure the safety and security of the state and environs.

The discovery of the weapon factory was also, the result of a meticulously executed intelligence-led operation conducted by the troops leading to the substantial recovery of cache of automatic weapons and related equipment that were being produced and distributed to other states thereby fuelling crisis on the Plateau and in Southern Kaduna. The recovered items include 6 AK-47 rifles, 4 sub-machine guns, 11 AK rifle bodies, a pistol and 7 x AK 47 bridge blocks. Others include 4 x AK 47 rifle magazines, 210 recoil springs for AK 47 rifles, 7 rifle butts, 8 rifle muzzles, 9 piston assemblies as well as 5 cartridge housings. Also recovered were one drilling machine set, and a hand filling machine. In addition to the seizure of the weapons and weapon fabricating equipment, two individuals directly involved in the weapon proliferation and marketing process, Micheal Dung 33 years and Yusuf Pam 43 years were both apprehended.

The leadership of OPSH working in close coordination with law enforcement agencies, will continue to ensure those responsible for perpetuating criminal activities and their collaborators face the full wrath of the law. These arrests sends a clear message that illegal arms production and trafficking will not be tolerated and anybody involved will be held accountable for their actions.

The successful operation further demonstrates the unwavering commitment of OPSH to rid the Joint Operations Area of illegal arms and dismantle criminal networks involved in illegal weapon manufacturing and distribution in line with the mandate given to troops during the launch of Operations HAKORIN DAMISA IV by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen TA Lagbaja.The recovery of such a significant number of firearms and related equipment will undoubtedly disrupt the activities of criminal elements and contribute to the overall security and stability of Plateau State and indeed the entire nation which remains the primary focus of the Chief of Defence Staff, Lt Gen CG Musa.

The GOC and Commander OPSH, Major General AE Abubakar, while commending the troops' resilience, expresses his gratitude to the community for their continued support and cooperation in providing valuable information that has aided the fight against criminal activities. The collaboration between the military and the public is crucial in ensuring the success of operations aimed at maintaining peace and security in Plateau State and by extension Nigeria.

OPSH remains resolute in its commitment to protect the lives and property of all law-abiding citizens. Efforts will continue to be intensified to identify and neutralize illegal weapons manufacturing facilities and dismantle criminal networks involved in arms proliferation. We urges the public to remain vigilant and report any suspicious activities or individuals to the appropriate authorities. Together, we can create a safer and more secure Nigeria for all.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 2:41pm On Nov 04, 2023
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 4:00pm On Nov 04, 2023
PERSONNEL FITNESS: NIGERIAN AIR FORCE CONDUCTS 2023 ANNUAL 10KM WALK/JOG

As part of efforts geared towards ensuring a high level of physical fitness and mental alertness for operational readiness and effectiveness, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has conducted the year 2023 Annual 10km Walk/Jog for its personnel in Abuja and other units across the country. In his remarks after the exercise in Abuja, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Hasan Abubakar commended the participants for showcasing high level of fitness noting that the citizens depend on the members of the Armed Forces for their safety of lives and properties which cannot be achieved without physical fitness and mental alertness. The CAS emphasized that sporting events like the 10 Km Walk/Jog was also aimed at promoting peaceful coexistence amongst personnel and their families as well as, serve as an avenue for discovering new talents for the upcoming 2024 Armed Forces Games.

While highlighting the importance of regular exercises to keep fit, the CAS stated that it essential for military personnel as it prepares them for occupational demand of roles. According to the CAS, “whether being deployed in an operating theatre or undertaking routine tasks, we are expected to always maintain a high level of physical and mental readiness. As airmen and airwomen, the success of the NAF directly reflects on our skills and competence which are also tied to our physical, mental and intellectual wellbeing, which is critical to attaining our overall objective.”

Speaking further, Air Marshal Abubakar reminded the personnel about the prevalent security challenges facing the nation, while noting that the concerted efforts of the NAF alongside other security agencies would ensure that all forms of criminality and the criminals' freedom of movement are reduce to the barest minimum. The CAS disclosed that through the commitment of the Federal Government, the NAF has witness a total overhaul and enhancement of its [/b]Order of Battle, recalling that about 2 weeks ago, the Service took delivery of 2 additional DA-62 surveillance aircraft and only 2 days ago, also received 2 T-129 ATAK helicopters soon to be inducted into the inventory of the NAF[b]. Air Marshal Abubakar assured that with the additional platforms and others being expected in no time, as well as the renewed vigour of the NAF under his leadership, Nigerians can be rest assured of the commitment of the NAF to ensuring total eradication of the myriads of security challenges facing the nation.

The CAS also used the occasion to congratulate the NAF volleyball male and female teams in the Nigerian National Volleyball League who recently gained promotion to the elite Division One and Premiere League respectively. He specifically single out the exceptional performances of 2 Air Craft Women, Bulus Faith and Abba A, who both distinguished themselves during the Nigerian National Volleyball League Division One as the best spiker and best server respectively. He also commended NAF personnel who were selected to participate in the World Military Wrestling Game at Azerbaijan 2023, as well as NAF Football Team playing in the Nigerian National League and Female Basketball Team that qualified to represent Armed Forces of Nigeria in the World Military Games. According to him, “These efforts are indicative of the commitment of our personnel to continue to stand out in sporting activities while also making the NAF proud. It is also an indication of our commitment to providing the enabling environment for sporting activities to thrive in our various Bases”.

Edward Gabkwet
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

4 November 2023

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidex111: 10:23pm On Nov 04, 2023
Nigerian Troops repel ISWAP attacks in Damboa and Malam Fatori, recover 6 explosives

By: Zagazola Makama

The Nigerian troops of 25 Brigade  have repelled an attack by the Islamic State of the West African Province (ISWAP) in Damboa Local Government Area of Borno.

It was gathered that the terrorists launched a probing attack at the troops along Damboa - Azir road. The troops swiftly repelled the attack and forced the terrorists to withdraw in disarray.

Intelligence sources told Zagazola Makama, a Counter- Insurgency Expert and Security Analyst in the Lake Chad Region, that “Though the terrorists were repelled, and their mission thwarted after a brutal gunfire, I cannot give the actual number of casualties they could have suffered.

He said that the troops also chased the terrorists through  their escape route  but no further contact was made.

In the same vein, the troops of 68 Battalion Mallam Fatori while conducting a fighting patrol around KUDANKURGU general area located about 3 kilometers South of Mallam Fatori in Abadam LGA, came in contact with unconfirmed numbers of ISWAP terrorists.

The attack was successfully repelled,  forcing the terrorists to withdraw.  exploitation conducted in the general area led to the discovery of 6  bombs belonging to the terrorists.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:13pm On Nov 06, 2023
JUST IN: A precision-guided airstrike coordinated by the Air Component & the Ground Troops of Operation HADIN Kai (OPHK) on Monday Nov. 6, 2023, has resulted in the massive killing of very large numbers of ISWAP Terrorists in Mobbar LGA of Borno State.


Source;@uncle-deji
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 2:34pm On Nov 07, 2023
GabrielYulaw:


Lol. I no go debate you because this is clearly not worth it. Someone comes to your region, says God promised them the land, takes it by force, kills you and keeps killing you and says you are a terrorist for daring to refuse giving your land and possessions to them for free. But you are here shouting Shia extremism. You can't see the direct route that goes from Israeli actions to groups like Hamas and Hezbollah that are created to oppose these same actions.
By the way, do me a favor and Google "Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners".
And this is my last comment on this matter.
Try dey read history sha, you're too far away from the truth of the matter
1) Before the modern israel state, there was a British
mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2) Before the British mandate
The Ottoman Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
3) Before the Ottoman Empire, there was a fully Islamic
state of Egypt, not the Palestinian state.
4) Before the Islamic State of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid
existed, not the Palestinian state. Gofri IV of Bolansky,
known as Godfrey de Bullion, conquered Jerusalem in 1099.
5) Before the Empire of Ayubid there was the Christian
Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian state.
6) Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem there were Umayad and
Fatimid empires, not the Palestinian state.
7) Before the empires of the Umaid and Fatimid, there was
the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire,
not the Palestinian state.
9) Before the Roman Empire, the Hasmone state existed,
not the Palestinian state.
10) Before the state of Hashmansk, it was a Selbakid state,
not the Palestinian state.
11) Before the Slavic Empire, the empire of Alexander
Macedonia existed, not the Palestinian state.
12) Before the empire of Alexander of Macedonia, the
Persian Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
13) Before the Persian Empire, the Babylonian Empire
existed, not the Palestinian state.
14) Before the Empire of Babylon there were kingdoms of
Israel and Judea was not the Palestinian state.
15) Before the kingdoms of israel and Judah was the
kingdom of israel , not the state of Palestine.
16) Before the Kingdom of israel there was a theocracy of
twelve tribalism of israel , not of the Palestinian state.
17) Before the the theocracy of twelve generations of israel ,
there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities,
not the Palestinian state.
In fact, in this corner of the earth there was everything
except the Palestinian state.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:18pm On Nov 07, 2023
23jerryking:
Try dey read history sha, you're too far away from the truth of the matter
1) Before the modern israel state, there was a British
mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2) Before the British mandate
The Ottoman Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
3) Before the Ottoman Empire, there was a fully Islamic
state of Egypt, not the Palestinian state.
4) Before the Islamic State of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid
existed, not the Palestinian state. Gofri IV of Bolansky,
known as Godfrey de Bullion, conquered Jerusalem in 1099.
5) Before the Empire of Ayubid there was the Christian
Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian state.
6) Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem there were Umayad and
Fatimid empires, not the Palestinian state.
7) Before the empires of the Umaid and Fatimid, there was
the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire,
not the Palestinian state.
9) Before the Roman Empire, the Hasmone state existed,
not the Palestinian state.
10) Before the state of Hashmansk, it was a Selbakid state,
not the Palestinian state.
11) Before the Slavic Empire, the empire of Alexander
Macedonia existed, not the Palestinian state.
12) Before the empire of Alexander of Macedonia, the
Persian Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
13) Before the Persian Empire, the Babylonian Empire
existed, not the Palestinian state.
14) Before the Empire of Babylon there were kingdoms of
Israel and Judea was not the Palestinian state.
15) Before the kingdoms of israel and Judah was the
kingdom of israel , not the state of Palestine.
16) Before the Kingdom of israel there was a theocracy of
twelve tribalism of israel , not of the Palestinian state.
17) Before the the theocracy of twelve generations of israel ,
there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities,
not the Palestinian state.
In fact, in this corner of the earth there was everything
except the Palestinian state.


Oboy ...... shocked
Do you have a link or online material where I can read more about this Israel/Palestinian history

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 4:26pm On Nov 07, 2023
bidexiii:



Oboy ...... shocked
Do you have a link or online material where I can read more about this Israel/Palestinian history
Being a student of philosophy and religion exposed me to some historical facts about certain nations of the world actually.
Although you can also see through this Wikipedia page here for a start.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

Then you could find further details here too. https://www.hudson.org/node/44363

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:23pm On Nov 07, 2023
23jerryking:
Being a student of philosophy and religion exposed me to some historical facts about certain nations of the world actually.
Although you can also see through this Wikipedia page here for a start.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

Then you could find further details here too. https://www.hudson.org/node/44363

Thanks man
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blakjewelry(m): 7:14pm On Nov 07, 2023
23jerryking:
Being a student of philosophy and religion exposed me to some historical facts about certain nations of the world actually.
Although you can also see through this Wikipedia page here for a start.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

Then you could find further details here too. https://www.hudson.org/node/44363
What is your point exactly? Do you have a problem with the name of the place or it habitants. Are you saying because Nigeria must have undergone many changes in terms of names and rule then they don't have right to exist in that location.
Let me ask you a question, do the people of present day Palestine share the same DNA with the original cananites or not?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 12:10am On Nov 08, 2023
Blakjewelry:

What is your point exactly? Do you have a problem with the name of the place or it habitants. Are you saying because Nigeria must have undergone many changes in terms of names and rule then they don't have right to exist in that location.
Let me ask you a question, do the people of present day Palestine share the same DNA with the original cananites or not?
Do you read stuffs just to respond or you actually read to understand?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 12:12am On Nov 08, 2023
bidexiii:


Thanks man
You're welcome man.
One thing is certain, there seem to be no end in sight as far as these lingering conflict is concerned. As hard as it is to admit, nobody wins in the end, a two-state solution would have been the best.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blakjewelry(m): 1:38am On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
Do you read stuffs just to respond or you actually read to understand?
My quotes are in order based on who you quoted in the first place. I understand what you tried to pull up there because I have seen a lot of people argue based on that line and when the argument get intense they will use the Bible as a backup to that claim. You never for once mentioned the origin of the people there rather under whose rule they were under. Nobody is denying Israel right to live but they shouldn't do that at the expense of others.
BTW I was expecting you to quote based on issue at hand, I love everything history. I have everything I can get my hand on his from every civilization from the earliest of man's history both with backup of archeological evidence so no need beautifying the truth.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:02am On Nov 08, 2023
Blakjewelry:

What is your point exactly? Do you have a problem with the name of the place or it habitants. Are you saying because Nigeria must have undergone many changes in terms of names and rule then they don't have right to exist in that location.
Let me ask you a question, do the people of present day Palestine share the same DNA with the original cananites or not?

It is you that can't read, bros. Like the fella said, there was never a Palestinian state, so there shouldn't be one now. But there used to be a Jewish kingdom in that region, like 2,000 years ago. So that means the Jews have a better right to the land. And if they have to kee millions of Palestinians and push the rest into the Sinai, then it is the damned fault of them Arabs for not recognizing the special nature of the "Children of Light" and their manifest destiny not to be bound by any laws of war or rules of conduct known to mankind, and not to be subject to any form of criticism, or have ill motives ascribed to their actions, even if those same actions are clear war crimes that if committed by any other country would send the US and UN into a frenzy of righteous indignation.

And based on his reasoning, I really can't think of any current country that should exist. In fact, let's dissolve all countries and start again from 2000 years ago. Let Jesus come again sef and we can start from there

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:02am On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
You're welcome man.
One thing is certain, there seem to be no end in sight as far as these lingering conflict is concerned. As hard as it is to admit, nobody wins in the end, a two-state solution would have been the best.

There will never be a two state. Open your eyes.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 6:35am On Nov 08, 2023
GabrielYulaw:


There will never be a two state. Open your eyes.
Sadly, yes. That's a wide dream actually. But people really need to stop making it look as though Israel are the trespassers. Especially Nigerians, they tend to make it seem like it's a religious thing and that alone becloud their judgement on the matter. This is purely political.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 6:42am On Nov 08, 2023
Blakjewelry:

My quotes are in order based on who you quoted in the first place. I understand what you tried to pull up there because I have seen a lot of people argue based on that line and when the argument get intense they will use the Bible as a backup to that claim. You never for once mentioned the origin of the people there rather under whose rule they were under. Nobody is denying Israel right to live but they shouldn't do that at the expense of others.
BTW I was expecting you to quote based on issue at hand, I love everything history. I have everything I can get my hand on his from every civilization from the earliest of man's history both with backup of archeological evidence so no need beautifying the truth.
So what you're saying is this;
1st. The Israelites never had a home of their own
2nd. And even if they had one, it was not in the present region.
But come on, you know that's not true. Anyways, what do I care? I just hate seeing people dying that's all. I'm a Nigerian and have enough problems here to worry about first.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 6:54am On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
Sadly, yes. That's a wide dream actually. But people really need to stop making it look as though Israel are the trespassers. Especially Nigerians, they tend to make it seem like it's a religious thing and that alone becloud their judgement on the matter. This is purely political.

But they ARE the trespassers.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sainttwist1(m): 7:11am On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
Try dey read history sha, you're too far away from the truth of the matter
1) Before the modern israel state, there was a British
mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2) Before the British mandate
The Ottoman Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
3) Before the Ottoman Empire, there was a fully Islamic
state of Egypt, not the Palestinian state.
4) Before the Islamic State of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid
existed, not the Palestinian state. Gofri IV of Bolansky,
known as Godfrey de Bullion, conquered Jerusalem in 1099.
5) Before the Empire of Ayubid there was the Christian
Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian state.
6) Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem there were Umayad and
Fatimid empires, not the Palestinian state.
7) Before the empires of the Umaid and Fatimid, there was
the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire,
not the Palestinian state.
9) Before the Roman Empire, the Hasmone state existed,
not the Palestinian state.
10) Before the state of Hashmansk, it was a Selbakid state,
not the Palestinian state.
11) Before the Slavic Empire, the empire of Alexander
Macedonia existed, not the Palestinian state.
12) Before the empire of Alexander of Macedonia, the
Persian Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
13) Before the Persian Empire, the Babylonian Empire
existed, not the Palestinian state.
14) Before the Empire of Babylon there were kingdoms of
Israel and Judea was not the Palestinian state.
15) Before the kingdoms of israel and Judah was the
kingdom of israel , not the state of Palestine.
16) Before the Kingdom of israel there was a theocracy of
twelve tribalism of israel , not of the Palestinian state.
17) Before the the theocracy of twelve generations of israel ,
there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities,
not the Palestinian state.
In fact, in this corner of the earth there was everything
except the Palestinian state.
thanks bro....good history lesson
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Floky215: 7:59am On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
Try dey read history sha, you're too far away from the truth of the matter
1) Before the modern israel state, there was a British
mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2) Before the British mandate
The Ottoman Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
3) Before the Ottoman Empire, there was a fully Islamic
state of Egypt, not the Palestinian state.
4) Before the Islamic State of Egypt, the Empire of Ayubid
existed, not the Palestinian state. Gofri IV of Bolansky,
known as Godfrey de Bullion, conquered Jerusalem in 1099.
5) Before the Empire of Ayubid there was the Christian
Kingdom of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian state.
6) Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem there were Umayad and
Fatimid empires, not the Palestinian state.
7) Before the empires of the Umaid and Fatimid, there was
the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire,
not the Palestinian state.
9) Before the Roman Empire, the Hasmone state existed,
not the Palestinian state.
10) Before the state of Hashmansk, it was a Selbakid state,
not the Palestinian state.
11) Before the Slavic Empire, the empire of Alexander
Macedonia existed, not the Palestinian state.
12) Before the empire of Alexander of Macedonia, the
Persian Empire existed, not the Palestinian state.
13) Before the Persian Empire, the Babylonian Empire
existed, not the Palestinian state.
14) Before the Empire of Babylon there were kingdoms of
Israel and Judea was not the Palestinian state.
15) Before the kingdoms of israel and Judah was the
kingdom of israel , not the state of Palestine.
16) Before the Kingdom of israel there was a theocracy of
twelve tribalism of israel , not of the Palestinian state.
17) Before the the theocracy of twelve generations of israel ,
there was an agglomeration of independent Canaan cities,
not the Palestinian state.
In fact, in this corner of the earth there was everything
except the Palestinian state.

Guy, many don't know this history, there have been nothing or people called the Palestinians in history, most who called themselves Palestinians today were offsprings of the invaders and settlers when Sallahudeen took over Jerusalem from the crusaders....!! Even in Egypt today, the Arabs there are not the real Egyptian, Islam as a religion strife with wars and conquest and this spread Arabs all over..there close relatives the fulanis came to Nigeria by this means too..!! Today in the middle belt you see them killing off and displacing the indigenous people and renaming their towns and villages to there's...!!

By tomorrow, same fight of who owns the land would still come..!!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:33am On Nov 08, 2023
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by 23jerryking(m): 9:51am On Nov 08, 2023
Floky215:


Guy, many don't know this history, there have been nothing or people called the Palestinians in history, most who called themselves Palestinians today were offsprings of the invaders and settlers when Sallahudeen took over Jerusalem from the crusaders....!! Even in Egypt today, the Arabs there are not the real Egyptian, Islam as a religion strife with wars and conquest and this spread Arabs all over..there close relatives the fulanis came to Nigeria by this means too..!! Today in the middle belt you see them killing off and displacing the indigenous people and renaming their towns and villages to there's...!!

By tomorrow, same fight of who owns the land would still come..!!
You get!!!
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blakjewelry(m): 9:38pm On Nov 08, 2023
23jerryking:
So what you're saying is this;
1st. The Israelites never had a home of their own
2nd. And even if they had one, it was not in the present region.
But come on, you know that's not true. Anyways, what do I care? I just hate seeing people dying that's all. I'm a Nigerian and have enough problems here to worry about first.
The point is, the 2 states system should be implemented to stop further bloodshed. DNA wise all of them in the middle east are all relatives, archeological evidence also show they are closely related to each other, they share similar culture, worship the same gods before the Israelites vier towards a monolistic deity system.

I only refer you way back because people tend to trace back were Israelites claim God gave them possession of the land ignoring the previous occupants.

That been said, the world today is different. Back in the days before modern city states and government, anybody can wake an if they can muster enough force take your land and there is nothing you can do. Today government and countries are form to protect the habitant of particular area, so what stopping them from creating a palestanian state.

My anger here is, they all know the solution to the problem extending the crisis. If you look closely all those not supporting Isreal didn't say Israel should quit but rather give these guys freedom, in fact the circle of violence will never stop, because for every individual you kill you just made hundreds of enemy plus even a generational and that is on both side.

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