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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by paxonel(m): 6:05am On Jan 15
FxMasterz:

I don't know to what end you're fighting this brother's testimony. Do you want to disprove his belief in God? You want him to discard the testimony and remain an atheist?
no!

All I'm saying is that, putting forward a deceptive testimony isn't necessary. Atleast, he had the option of saying the story the way it is and still remain a believer.

Thank God he has finally come out to say the real cause of the problem unlike the impression he created in the testimony that it was a spiritual problem .

Farewell
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Zeekaycn(m): 6:10am On Jan 15
Sometimes I ask, do your believing help anybody?

I pity modern Africans, na anything they hear them de practice. Africans have never practice Atheism. Africa is a Spiritual ground, our Furfathers were deep Spiritualists worshipping Idols. That was their greatest strength and defence.

When Christianity was Introduced to Africa. It was easy and they had a greater advantage on the spirituality of the Religion where strong prophets were raised. Even till date Africans still practice modern religion like Christianity and Islam as though they are serving Idols, how they communicate with God is different from those that brought the religion. They scream and Command God same way they talk to idols.

Atheism is not African thing, it's a set of some Scientists using that to Manipulate people who subscribe to their false discoveries. They have to create that to have a continuous patronage. According to them anything that cannot be experimented or research on they say it doesn't exist. Imagine human being trying to capture God for an experiment.

Since Spirituality can not be experimented they say it doesn't exist. Atheists don't believe in Spirituality. Note; not all scientists are practicing Atheism, In fact science that base in technological discovery are strong believers. They are Scientists that are Theologians.

My concern is Africans who don't even practice Science in a professional level are the highest subscribers to this false discoveries. They know Africans would never in their entire life do any research to confirm any Idea they bring. You know why license for so many things is not given to Africans?

African biggest weapon is FAITH in Spirituals. No matter how African suffers He still believe things would change. It's a big challenge to the Westerners agenda to reduce Africans population. We hardly die during plandemics. If they get a hold of our Faith we're finished. Fear would be the order of the day.

Atheism does not make you a smart fellow, it makes you a Zombie. You'll be Manipulated by false systems of the world.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by FRANCISTOWN: 6:32am On Jan 15
Lonestar124:
The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has not arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..

He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.

Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..

This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.

Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.

Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.

Lemme tell you where I think you got it wrong from my own point of view.

1. You were troubled. I'm an atheist, I'm never troubled in any situation. I'm very calm in chaos.
I've understood that , people make the worst decision when they are not calm. They tend to take rash decisions that are unwise , unfit and dangerous to souls.
I found out that sometimes, the solution to some kind of problems is to not find a solution at all, just leave them. The problems will resolve themselves.

2. You were not an atheist. There is nothing one earth that'd make me run to any god/gods. To me, that's not an option. As long as I can't run to my flower vase to help me. Though flower vase exists, gods don't. Since I dropped the god ideology several years back I've never looked back. A bygone is bygone.

3. What happened was just a plain coincidence. The pastor didn't know when the container will land. The pastor only had what you didn't have. He was calm in the situation because it was not his container. If you had called a friend or your mother. They would have given you the exact same response "Don't worry, your container will land".

4. That was not a miracle. A miracle is something that it's success rate is less than 1%. Your container was supposed to land to begin with, the success rate was about 80% . Therefore that was no miracle.

5. If your pastor's god was responsible for that then you should be worried why his god refused to help children who are being molested at the seminaries, people who are starving to death, victims of natural disasters, kids born with defomities and impediments.

Anything called God cannot be that ignorant and disoriented with zero priority intelligence. You are not special shit.

I've walked thru the 3 main religions in Nigeria and I can tell you for free that. God is no where except in the heads of the ignorants

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05am On Jan 15
FRANCISTOWN:

Lemme tell you where I think from my own point of view.
God is no where except in the heads of the ignorants

This is your own point of view.
Thanks! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Zeekaycn(m): 7:19am On Jan 15
People don't really have problem with the message in the Bible. But anything related to giving tithe and Offering in church, they get so offended as If they themselves really give.

Why are people so angry about what the Church makes this days.
I function in a Ministry where I was privilege to see the inflow and outflow of Money. I discovered that people especially church members don't give that much. Some times the money used to run a service is 3times higher than what the congregation gives. Meanwhile some full time workers are paid saleries. If you really gather tithe and offering for 10years can't even buy a Pastor a good car not to talk of buildings.

Sometimes financial inflow in church is mysterious. Sometimes churches have difficulty paying rent but suddenly they get free hall from non members. Sometimes strange money in account. Broh make we leave oooo.

Apart from the spiritual side of church wealth. Pastor of this generation are great entrepreneurs and business men. If you are not close you won't know. Most times they use their personal money to run the Church and even feed some poor members who are homeless.

Now imagine if a Pastor help a family, feed them, give them accommodation, when a child of that family rise up to become somebody and He start giving back to the church people start dragging.

A Pastor once told us a story growing up in ministry. He said when He started His church, when the church rent was due, he'll called top members for serious prays for God to send a helper that will clear the rent, and God always answered their prayers and the givers are mostly outsiders. So He got a revelation from God that members should be the only ones paying for every bill in church. That was how prosperity and progress started in church. Members started excelling till they were able to build their own church.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Badmashii(m): 7:50am On Jan 15
Floky215:


Forget matter, some of them got baba working for them in the village, special case like yours they know would bring them money would be specially worked on...!! When if happen you said its their prayer not knowing kts the handy work of baba in the village, of course baba would get his own cut too from the money you are bringing in..!!

We all know as e be...nah those wey no sabi dey fall...!!!

If you fall for that, you become their eternal slave and would be remoting you any way they wish...!!

From your story it could also be coincidence and the pastor would cashout majorly from it...!!
But fact remains, they have baba working for them on special cases that they know money would come out of.....see he quickly point out tithe to you as if, if you don't pay tithe your business would crash....it's all manipulation to get into your pocket bro..!!

Bro too much sense will not kee you. Na the package wey dem run for him head b dat
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by sageb: 2:49pm On Jan 15
2elliot:
About four years ago, someone poisoned me, and that made me to stool uncontrollably. I took virtually everything to stop it but it didn't. I had lost so much weight and could barely walk; I was dying. I was stooling on my body as most times I could barely make it to the toilet before the shit came out. Then, my mom later went and met a certain paralyzed woman who has some spiritual gift. The woman asked her to bring me. When my mom informed me, I refused. Even though my house is a walking distance to where the lady lives, I could not gather both the strength and mind to go as I may disgrace myself on the way or at the place.
Three times my went to report to her to possibly pray for me or give her a solution she could bring to me, but the woman still insisted I come by myself. She told my mom categorically that I was going to be fine if I walked to her place. So when my mom reported to me the last time, I had to take up courage to go. I was scared I would embarrass myself. My stomach kept rumbling nonstop. But I had to go. Fortunately, I went without any issues. I got there and the woman prayed for me and also informed me who poisoned me. I didn't even inform her about the supposed woman who did it. It was my neighbour on an Easter morning who brought some food to me. Earlier before then, I was owing a corporative union some money for over seven months which I didn't know she was a member. Things were rough for me at the time so I couldn't pay up completely. So she took it upon herself to punish me. I was shook when the old paralyzed woman told me this.
And God so kind, my constant stooling stopped. Normally, I couldn't stay up to 20minutes without discharging, but I was there with her for over an hour without the need to poo. That's how I was healed.
Though, as a stubborn goat that I am, I still doubted the miracle, I felt maybe it was at that point all the medications I had taken decided to work. But still, the coincidence is powerful, added to the fact that she made connection to my neighbour without me telling her about her. Truly amazing. Thank God say man don improve wella and sapa don don dey respect itself.

PS: for those who may wonder why she was unable to heal her own paralysis. She said that when she got the supposed gifts and started using them, she was constantly accused by people of being a witch when her prophecies especially the bad ones came to pass. So she stopped giving prophecies or using any of her gifts, that according to her brought about her punishment for disobedience.

Really?
Where's the woman location?
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by TheAdvocate(m): 5:21pm On Jan 15
God is real, healing is real. In 2022, I was diagnosed with cervical spondylosis and related ailments. I couldn't take off my neck collar given to me in the hospital for 2 minutes. I went to church and was prayed for and since September 2022 till date, no pains, no neck collar.
God is a faithful God and I have vowed to serve Him all the days of my life.
Sir, go to You Tube and search for "Commanding the Day Midnight Prayers" by Dr. Paul Enenche. It starts by 11.30 pm to 12.30 am every day and if you watch for a week and you don't receive your miracle, then there is a problem somewhere. I challenge anyone to do so and we talk about it.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 6:26pm On Jan 15
LordReed:


So basically the god bypassed all those starving or sick children begging for relief to answer someone that doesn't even give a shìt. And now you believe. Wow, just wow.

Don't you bypass all the starving and sick every other day, mr busybody? So for some reason, God must answer all the starving and sick before He can answer someone's prayers, lol. Like i used to say, the foolish fool has said God does not exist because He doesn't fit into his little expectations and understandings.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 6:33pm On Jan 15
FRANCISTOWN:


Lemme tell you where I think you got it wrong from my own point of view.

4. That was not a miracle. A miracle is something that it's success rate is less than 1%. Your container was supposed to land to begin with, the success rate was about 80% . Therefore that was no miracle.

5. If your pastor's god was responsible for that then you should be worried why his god refused to help children who are being molested at the seminaries, people who are starving to death, victims of natural disasters, kids born with defomities and impediments.

Anything called God cannot be that ignorant and disoriented with zero priority intelligence. You are not special shit.

I've walked thru the 3 main religions in Nigeria and I can tell you for free that. God is no where except in the heads of the ignorants

Lolz, for someone who doesn;t believe in miracles, you say so much about miracles even to the percentage, comedian.
God is not your toy or wishlist that you give orders and expections on how to operate to be God. Who told you that God must help your colleagues before He can help others? Who made them priority? Are they your priority, hypocrite?
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 6:36pm On Jan 15
TheAdvocate:
God is real, healing is real. In 2022, I was diagnosed with cervical spondylosis and related ailments. I couldn't take off my neck collar given to me in the hospital for 2 minutes. I went to church and was prayed for and since September 2022 till date, no pains, no neck collar.
God is a faithful God and I have vowed to serve Him all the days of my life.
Sir, go to You Tube and search for "Commanding the Day Midnight Prayers" by Dr. Paul Enenche. It starts by 11.30 pm to 12.30 am every day and if you watch for a week and you don't receive your miracle, then there is a problem somewhere. I challenge anyone to do so and we talk about it.

Arm chair critics don't really take up such challenges. i have challenged folks like reed and his minions at different times to go and see things for themselves, NO SHOW. Na for internet dem get mouth. Their parents, wives, sisters, brothers, children are not this foolish though, thanks to God for mercies.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by ErnestNc: 9:30pm On Jan 15
Lonestar124:
The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has not arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week

He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.

Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..

This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.

Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.

Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.



When will people learn that miracles do not authenticate a person to be of God?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by ErnestNc: 9:31pm On Jan 15
Lonestar124:
I'm starting to believe, as a matter of fact there are people with spiritual Grace that you have to contact when there is troubleshooting..be it pastor or anybody..


You could be dealing with a sorcerer or a diviner and not a follower or messanger of Christ. Pls know there's a big difference.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by ErnestNc: 9:37pm On Jan 15
TheAdvocate:
God is real, healing is real. In 2022, I was diagnosed with cervical spondylosis and related ailments. I couldn't take off my neck collar given to me in the hospital for 2 minutes. I went to church and was prayed for and since September 2022 till date, no pains, no neck collar.
God is a faithful God and I have vowed to serve Him all the days of my life.
Sir, go to You Tube and search for "Commanding the Day Midnight Prayers" by Dr. Paul Enenche.

it starts by 11.30 pm to 12.30 am every day and if you watch for a week and you don't receive your miracle, then there is a problem somewhere. I challenge anyone to do so and we talk about it.

This is pure idolatory and wickedness.
You're not inviting people to come hear the word of life(which the man of God in question doesn't even preach) , but to seek for signs and miracles ... You are an idolater .
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:19pm On Jan 15
Lonestar124:
The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has not arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..

He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.

Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..

This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.

Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.

Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.
this goes to show that all of you calling your self athiest are gullible fools who can be easily swayed by witchcraft you claim you dont believe. this one nah small. you never see anything yet
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by TheAdvocate(m): 3:47pm On Jan 16
ErnestNc:




This is pure idolatory and wickedness.
You're not inviting people to come hear the word of life(which the man of God in question doesn't even preach) , but to seek for signs and miracles ... You are an idolater .


Just help me & listen for a week & let's talk. The ministry of Jesus is 100% signs & miracles bro. Buy a Bible & read & you will agree with me.😁
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by TheAdvocate(m): 3:50pm On Jan 16
Image123:


Arm chair critics don't really take up such challenges. i have challenged folks like reed and his minions at different times to go and see things for themselves, NO SHOW. Na for internet dem get mouth. Their parents, wives, sisters, brothers, children are not this foolish though, thanks to God for mercies.

I pray they search inwards & accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord & Saviour. Governments all over the world have failed. Let's turn to Jesus.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by hopefulLandlord: 8:00am On Jan 19
Image123:


Arm chair critics don't really take up such challenges. i have challenged folks like reed and his minions at different times to go and see things for themselves, NO SHOW. Na for internet dem get mouth. Their parents, wives, sisters, brothers, children are not this foolish though, thanks to God for mercies.
Lol, funny how all these "challenges" never work to regrow an amputee's limbs or make ayefele walk or make Cobhams see.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 8:15am On Jan 19
hopefulLandlord:

Lol, funny how all these "challenges" never work to regrow an amputee's limbs or make ayefele walk or make Cobhams see.

You believe celebrity miracles more?
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by MightySparrow: 8:24am On Jan 19
Lonestar124:
The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has not arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..

He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.

Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..

This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.

Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.

Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.


It is because of light we have shadows. Many are walking under the shadows. That's why they don't accept the light. Better still, if you believe in God and keep his rules, God will tell you what is going on rather than through a man of God.

God is real. There are still real Men of God. God still shows faithfulness to His true worshippers.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by LordReed(m): 8:26am On Jan 19
TheAdvocate:


I pray they search inwards & accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord & Saviour. Governments all over the world have failed. Let's turn to Jesus.

Is Jesus going to pave roads and build other infrastructure?
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by LordReed(m): 8:31am On Jan 19
2elliot:
About four years ago, someone poisoned me, and that made me to stool uncontrollably. I took virtually everything to stop it but it didn't. I had lost so much weight and could barely walk; I was dying. I was stooling on my body as most times I could barely make it to the toilet before the shit came out. Then, my mom later went and met a certain paralyzed woman who has some spiritual gift. The woman asked her to bring me. When my mom informed me, I refused. Even though my house is a walking distance to where the lady lives, I could not gather both the strength and mind to go as I may disgrace myself on the way or at the place.
Three times my went to report to her to possibly pray for me or give her a solution she could bring to me, but the woman still insisted I come by myself. She told my mom categorically that I was going to be fine if I walked to her place. So when my mom reported to me the last time, I had to take up courage to go. I was scared I would embarrass myself. My stomach kept rumbling nonstop. But I had to go. Fortunately, I went without any issues. I got there and the woman prayed for me and also informed me who poisoned me. I didn't even inform her about the supposed woman who did it. It was my neighbour on an Easter morning who brought some food to me. Earlier before then, I was owing a corporative union some money for over seven months which I didn't know she was a member. Things were rough for me at the time so I couldn't pay up completely. So she took it upon herself to punish me. I was shook when the old paralyzed woman told me this.
And God so kind, my constant stooling stopped. Normally, I couldn't stay up to 20minutes without discharging, but I was there with her for over an hour without the need to poo. That's how I was healed.
Though, as a stubborn goat that I am, I still doubted the miracle, I felt maybe it was at that point all the medications I had taken decided to work. But still, the coincidence is powerful, added to the fact that she made connection to my neighbour without me telling her about her. Truly amazing. Thank God say man don improve wella and sapa don don dey respect itself.

PS: for those who may wonder why she was unable to heal her own paralysis. She said that when she got the supposed gifts and started using them, she was constantly accused by people of being a witch when her prophecies especially the bad ones came to pass. So she stopped giving prophecies or using any of her gifts, that according to her brought about her punishment for disobedience.

You actually believe there is a good god who gives people gifts to heal others but punishes the gift recipient with an incurable condition? SMH.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by hopefulLandlord: 10:51am On Jan 19
Image123:


You believe celebrity miracles more?
Documented amputee that has his limbs regrown will go a long way. Starrfishes and Salamanders grow back lost limbs so it wouldn't be too hard for your "Enenche"
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 10:57am On Jan 19
hopefulLandlord:

Documented amputee that has his limbs regrown will go a long way. Starrfishes and Salamanders grow back lost limbs so it wouldn't be too hard for your "Enenche"

Take 10 there, can you? i'm guessing it should not be very hard for you to gather your friends and go.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:58am On Jan 19
LordReed:

You actually believe there is a good god who gives people gifts to heal others but punishes the gift recipient with an incurable condition? SMH.

Son of Satan. Punishment is punishment and person under punishment is not entiled to be a recipient of a good thing. That is why devils like you should be in hellire forever separated from humans.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:01am On Jan 19
hopefulLandlord:

Documented amputee that has his limbs regrown will go a long way. Starrfishes and Salamanders grow back lost limbs so it wouldn't be too hard for your "Enenche"

Exactly as you nails and hair grow back when cut. Its what both you and the starfish have been given.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by LordReed(m): 11:12am On Jan 19
Dtruthspeaker:


Son of Satan. Punishment is punishment and person under punishment is not entiled to be a recipient of a good thing. That is why devils like you should be in hellire forever separated from humans.

:Yawn: try to invent a more scary place than your fictional hell maybe that one will work. LoLz.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 3:29pm On Jan 19
LordReed:


You actually believe there is a good god who gives people gifts to heal others but punishes the gift recipient with an incurable condition? SMH.

The adjective "good" is probably disturbing and distorting your thinking. You don't even know the meaning to start with.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Image123(m): 3:32pm On Jan 19
LordReed:


Is Jesus going to pave roads and build other infrastructure?

Yes, don't you read your Bible to comprehend?
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:55pm On Jan 19
LordReed:


:Yawn: try to invent a more scary place than your fictional hell maybe that one will work. LoLz.

I don't need to. Your fear for death is sufficient.
Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by LordReed(m): 5:26pm On Jan 19
Dtruthspeaker:


I don't need to. Your fear for death is sufficient.

LoLz! Like you who doesn't want to go to Sambisa to preach and display your god's powers? Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: I'm Beginning To Doubt My Disbelief On Men Of God. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:29pm On Jan 19
LordReed:

LoLz! Like you who doesn't want to go to Sambisa to preach and display your god's powers? Bwahahahahaha!

Off point!

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