AdisaOwala:


If the them like, make them employ the best brains/hands out there...

The Glazers just have to go - it's the only solution

🤐

Leyqute:


Sorry o. Donald Trump.

If I am not impressed by a new addition until I see actual results on the pitch…

Or choose not to be gullible to the United PR machine…

...wetin be your own concern?

Did I hold your legs from leaping up for rapturous joy because we signed Amarachi from City?

Please face your lane and quit mentioning me unnecessarily.

You know I did before and it's not a problem for me to hit the avoid button.

I did not mention you unnecessarily, I only replied to your comment and pointed out the contradiction in your post in contrast to the position you held in the past.

Why body come dey bite you?

patrickmuf:
You know I did before and it's not a problem for me to hit the avoid button.

I did not mention you unnecessarily, I only replied to your comment and pointed out the contradiction in your post in contrast to the position you held in the past.

Why body come dey bite you?

Abeg swerve.

You avoided me before yet you can't stop yourself from quickly quoting me.

Go back to avoiding me please.

Lol, I guess someone is having a bad day because I do not see any reason for the rudeness...

Anyways, country hard...

patrickmuf:
I thought it was agreed here that we have to get football heads to run the football side of things.

Now, the club has gotten one of the top guys at City yet una dey no dey happy...I am sure when we get in a director of football and other competent football guys some of you will shift the goalpost.

We have seen it play out before. The board refuse to sign some players the coaches recommend, and the fans complain. The board gets another coach and gives him the power to decide who comes in and who goes yet the fans still complain pointing fingers at the club's management team, accusing them of being clueless on how best to manage a top team and now, the board are doing what we agreed is the right thing to do but una dey preach pessimism.

All these talks of football heads is just another excuse giving exercise and has nothing to do with the clubs failure. Its like failing a job interview and blaming potholes on the road

Is Omar Berrada more of a football person than Ed Woodward?

Ed Woodward was the CEO when Man Utd was successful under Ferguson, His non football background did not matter then
Who knows the CEO of Liverpool and is he a football person? Billy Hogan was a Sales guy for FSG
The current CEO of my club is Jan Dreesen a former Banker
The current CEO of Arsenal was an Accountant (Like Woodward) who studied Economics at Oxford his career, he was former Strategy Consultant for Delloitte which is similar to what Woodward did at PwC before joining Man Utd
Florentino Perez was a Civil Engineer before he got involved with Real Madrid
Juan Laporta was a lawyer before he was voted President of Barcelona

Were basically fans who had other careers before they got involved in the football club

This City success was because they got Pep Guardiola, They had other coaches before him who were not successful. Despite the Omar Berrada being there

I am sure someone will say its because of the football person that made him target Pep Guardiola. No anyone who casually followed football for 3yrs between 2008 and 2015 will know that Pep Guardiola is a game changer

Lol. The butterfly thinks itself a bird.

Jumped into my mentions with disparaging comments but I’m the rude one.

Nigeria may be hard on you but thank God I left that hellhole already. You should look in the mirror more, Patrick T. Conservative arrogance doesn’t look good on you.

raumdeuter:


All these talks of football heads is just another excuse giving exercise and has nothing to do with the clubs failure. Its like failing a job interview and blaming potholes on the road

Is Omar Berrada more of a football person than Ed Woodward?

Ed Woodward was the CEO when Man Utd was successful under Ferguson, His non football background did not matter then
Who knows the CEO of Liverpool and is he a football person? Billy Hogan was a Sales guy for FSG
The current CEO of my club is Jan Dreesen a former Banker
The current CEO of Arsenal was an Accountant (Like Woodward) who studied Economics at Oxford his career, he was former Strategy Consultant for Delloitte which is similar to what Woodward did at PwC before joining Man Utd
Florentino Perez was a Civil Engineer before he got involved with Real Madrid
Juan Laporta was a lawyer before he was voted President of Barcelona

Were basically fans who had other careers before they got involved in the football club

This City success was because they got Pep Guardiola, They had other coaches before him who were not successful. Despite the Omar Berrada being there

I am sure someone will say its because of the football person that made him target Pep Guardiola. No anyone who casually followed football for 3yrs between 2008 and 2015 will know that Pep Guardiola is a game changer

Dayo, I have always argued here that we have spent as much as our rivals and have engaged the services of good managers over time but some others feel that our poor recruitment of players (overpaying and in some cases, signing players that are not good enough) points to the board and to be honest, they do have a point. One of the strong proponents of the logic that we need to overhaul the management team is the first to sound pessimistic here hence my post.

I just want us to try again with a different setup at the management level to see if it will improve our recruitment process...In recruitment, the focus is on incoming and outgoing.

patrickmuf:
But you have argued here in the past that there needs to be a surgical operation starting from the management team if we must make progress at the club. Now, we are seeing the club at least attempt to do as you recommended landing one of the top guys from City yet you do not want folks to be optimistic about the move?

What exactly do the fans really want?

See the disparaging comments...Lol

raumdeuter:


All these talks of football heads is just another excuse giving exercise and has nothing to do with the clubs failure. Its like failing a job interview and blaming potholes on the road

Is Omar Berrada more of a football person than Ed Woodward?

Ed Woodward was the CEO when Man Utd was successful under Ferguson, His non football background did not matter then
Who knows the CEO of Liverpool and is he a football person? Billy Hogan was a Sales guy for FSG
The current CEO of my club is Jan Dreesen a former Banker
The current CEO of Arsenal was an Accountant (Like Woodward) who studied Economics at Oxford his career, he was former Strategy Consultant for Delloitte which is similar to what Woodward did at PwC before joining Man Utd
Florentino Perez was a Civil Engineer before he got involved with Real Madrid
Juan Laporta was a lawyer before he was voted President of Barcelona

Were basically fans who had other careers before they got involved in the football club

This City success was because they got Pep Guardiola, They had other coaches before him who were not successful. Despite the Omar Berrada being there

I am sure someone will say its because of the football person that made him target Pep Guardiola. No anyone who casually followed football for 3yrs between 2008 and 2015 will know that Pep Guardiola is a game changer

The bolded is wrong, Peter Kenyon and David Gill were United CEO during Fergie's successful years. Fergie never worked with Woodward, and yes Omar Berrada is more of a football person than Woodward..

raumdeuter:
This Omar Berrada we will see what he achieves

Na so Rangnick, Ten Haag and others came with big talks "Aspire to perspire"

Na here we go dey to see how his regime will pan out

It's really not your business. You shouldn't be here crying and lamenting over something that doesn't concern you. This one is here typing like he wants the good of United.

spillo1:

It's really not your business. You shouldn't be here crying and lamenting over something that doesn't concern you. This one is here typing like he wants the good of United.

🤣🤣🤣

Lol una go explain tire. Watch them shift the goal post soon. Fact is, the manager is the most important in a football club. We just need to continue to hire and fire until we get someone that works for us. That’s how things are at top clubs.

Management exists for the commercial and administrative stuff. We don’t need a football person as CEO or CFO to win trophies.

TrebleChamp:
The bolded is wrong, Peter Kenyon and David Gill were United CEO during Fergie's successful years. Fergie never worked with Woodward, and yes Omar Berrada is more of a football person than Woodward..

No mind Dayo. I no just get the energy to answer that Berrada vs Woodward question...

Onana benched.

TrebleChamp:
The bolded is wrong, Peter Kenyon and David Gill were United CEO during Fergie's successful years. Fergie never worked with Woodward, and yes Omar Berrada is more of a football person than Woodward..

Woodward has been with United since 2007. Ferguson left in 2013. So how did Ferguson never work with Woodward

Admitted Gill was CEO under Ferguson. Now Check the profile of David Gill and lets compare with Ed Woodward to tell how David Gill was a football person and Woodward wasnt

Both of them were accountant, both worked for the same company

Below is the profile of the successful "Football person" CEO David Gill before he joined Manchester United

Born and raised in Reading, Berkshire,[2] Gill studied at the University of Birmingham (BCom Industrial, Economic and Business Studies, 1978), becoming a Chartered Accountant with Price Waterhouse in 1981. After a two-year spell in San Francisco, he left the firm in 1986 to join The BOC Group in its corporate finance department, and then Avis Rent a Car System in 1990. At Avis, he was responsible for the disposal of the European leasing business to GE Capital for US$1 billion in August 1992. Subsequently, he was finance director at Proudfoot PLC, the worldwide management consulting business, then quoted on the London Stock Exchange, and then at First Choice Holidays PLC, the third largest UK tour operator, before joining Manchester United F.C. in 1997.

He’s always had issues with the coach. No surprised after the rubbish they played in their last game.

patrickmuf:
🤣🤣🤣

Once you see that guy against any decisions taken by United or Chelsea just know it's the right one.

patrickmuf:
Dayo, I have always argued here that we have spent as much as our rivals and have engaged the services of good managers over time but some others feel that our poor recruitment of players (overpaying and in some cases, signing players that are not good enough) points to the board and to be honest, they do have a point. One of the strong proponents of the logic that we need to overhaul the management team is the first to sound pessimistic here hence my post.

I just want us to try again with a different setup at the management level to see if it will improve our recruitment process...In recruitment, the focus is on incoming and outgoing.

Everyone overpays for players. Its when the players don't deliver that it becomes an issue

80% of Pep signings under the same Berrada were considered overpaid until they delivered. Did anyone ever think Dias, Laporte, Stones, Ake, Grealish, Bernado Mendy etc were worth that amount paid for them? But when they deliver no one cares how much was paid

20M for a flop is overpayment, 100m for a hit is underpayment. In hindsight, 100m for Salah would have been a bargain while 15m for Antony would have been an overpayment

Signing players that are not good enough are also signs of usage. Do you think Man Utd intentionally went to sign bad players? All the bad signings were doing well and some were snatched from their destination clubs

If Alexis and Magure had gone to City do you think we will be calling them bad signings?

In most cases the coach point to the profile of players they want and the board gets it for him. You think ETH did not ask specifically for Onana and Antony and the board just dropped them on his laps?

The problem is not the CEO, A CEO in most cases knows next to nothing about technical football beyond being a fan

Perez is the greatest CEO currently, and left to him, he wants to flood every position with galacticos. Perez bought David Beckham a right winger when he already had Figo and told the coach to fit him somewhere. Beckham a RW ended laying CM, DM and even RB for Madrid. that is a CEO in action

Was this Berrada not there when Man City was buying Wilfred Bony, Nastasic, Savic, Fernando and many players who flopped

spillo1:

Once you see that guy against any decisions taken by United or Chelsea just know it's the right one.

Yes na me say make United by Anthony and na me say make Chelsea sign Emzor

nitrogen:
Lol una go explain tire. Watch them shift the goal post soon. Fact is, the manager is the most important in a football club. We just need to continue to hire and fire until we get someone that works for us. That’s how things are at top clubs.

Management exists for the commercial and administrative stuff. We don’t need a football person as CEO or CFO to win trophies.

Leave them to be deceiving themselves here 😂

raumdeuter:


Everyone overpays for players. Its when the players don't deliver that it becomes an issue

80% of Pep signings under the same Berrada were considered overpaid until they delivered. Did anyone ever think Dias, Laporte, Stones, Ake, Grealish, Bernado Mendy etc were worth that amount paid for them? But when they deliver no one cares how much was paid

20M for a flop is overpayment, 100m for a hit is underpayment. In hindsight, 100m for Salah would have been a bargain while 15m for Antony would have been an overpayment

Signing players that are not good enough are also signs of usage. Do you think Man Utd intentionally went to sign bad players? All the bad signings were doing well and some were snatched from their destination clubs

If Alexis and Magure had gone to City do you think we will be calling them bad signings?

In most cases the coach point to the profile of players they want and the board gets it for him. You think ETH did not ask specifically for Onana and Antony and the board just dropped them on his laps?

The problem is not the CEO, A CEO in most cases knows next to nothing about technical football beyond being a fan

Perez is the greatest CEO currently, and left to him, he wants to flood every position with galacticos. Perez bought David Beckham a right winger when he already had Figo and told the coach to fit him somewhere. Beckham a RW ended laying CM, DM and even RB for Madrid. that is a CEO in action

Was this Berrada not there when Man City was buying Wilfred Bony, Nastasic, Savic, Fernando and many players who flopped

Words on marble...

Even till today, I still find it hard to see why City paid 100milla for Graelish but of course, since the team dey perform, nobody really cares again

So top management is no more the issue. 😀

odizeey:
So top management is no more the issue. 😀

It is still the issue o

Leyqute:
Onana benched.

By his first cousin.

This fan base can never be happy. Ah ah

raumdeuter:


Yes na me say make United by Anthony and na me say make Chelsea sign Emzor

You really shouldn't be here crying over something that doesn't concern you.

nitrogen:
Lol una go explain tire. Watch them shift the goal post soon. Fact is, the manager is the most important in a football club. We just need to continue to hire and fire until we get someone that works for us. That’s how things are at top clubs.

Management exists for the commercial and administrative stuff. We don’t need a football person as CEO or CFO to win trophies.

How does hiring a new CEO stop us from sacking a manager that's underperforming and getting a new one ? Do most of you just post for posting sack.

raumdeuter:


Woodward has been with United since 2007. Ferguson left in 2013. So how did Ferguson never work with Woodward

Admitted Gill was CEO under Ferguson. Now Check the profile of David Gill and lets compare with Ed Woodward to tell how David Gill was a football person and Woodward wasnt

Both of them were accountant, both worked for the same company

Below is the profile of the successful "Football person" CEO David Gill before he joined Manchester United

Fergie was not Manager when Woodward was C.E.O, Woodward is a major reason United transfers and contract extension is a mess...

raumdeuter:


Everyone overpays for players. Its when the players don't deliver that it becomes an issue

80% of Pep signings under the same Berrada were considered overpaid until they delivered. Did anyone ever think Dias, Laporte, Stones, Ake, Grealish, Bernado Mendy etc were worth that amount paid for them? But when they deliver no one cares how much was paid

20M for a flop is overpayment, 100m for a hit is underpayment. In hindsight, 100m for Salah would have been a bargain while 15m for Antony would have been an overpayment

Signing players that are not good enough are also signs of usage. Do you think Man Utd intentionally went to sign bad players? All the bad signings were doing well and some were snatched from their destination clubs

If Alexis and Magure had gone to City do you think we will be calling them bad signings?

In most cases the coach point to the profile of players they want and the board gets it for him. You think ETH did not ask specifically for Onana and Antony and the board just dropped them on his laps?

The problem is not the CEO, A CEO in most cases knows next to nothing about technical football beyond being a fan

Perez is the greatest CEO currently, and left to him, he wants to flood every position with galacticos. Perez bought David Beckham a right winger when he already had Figo and told the coach to fit him somewhere. Beckham a RW ended laying CM, DM and even RB for Madrid. that is a CEO in action

Was this Berrada not there when Man City was buying Wilfred Bony, Nastasic, Savic, Fernando and many players who flopped

You keep typing one nonsense after another. First was saying woody worked under Ferguson as CEO ,to City managers were not successful before Pep now you don't even know the actual CEO of City. This guy is something else.

INEOS means business which is a good sign.

MRTA7:

By his first cousin.

About time too. Needs to sit up. Just a pity ETH doesn’t have the balls to do same.

TrebleChamp:
Fergie was not Manager when Woodward was C.E.O, Woodward is a major reason United transfers and contract extension is a mess...

What's the difference between the profile of Woodward and Gill which made one successful and one fail