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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by alabo1: 5:42am On Apr 19
100millionGoal:
So one USA vote equals those other useless countries.

How did the rest of the world sit and wallow USA become so powerful.

The world must stop depending on dollar

They print it as they like and buy things from other countries sucking the mineral resources of other countries and giving them printed dollars or computer numbers
.

Not only USA. The other 4 members of the permanent security council (Russia, China, France and UK) also have the same Veto power. It is a relic from the effects of WW2. These five won the war and gave themselves that power when the UN was formed.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Schrodinger2(m): 5:49am On Apr 19
The 5 permanent members of the UN are
Russia; China; US; UK and France all have the powers to vetoed any resolution nor in their favor.

Unfortunately this America is the chief of hypocrisy and Double standards. American sees Israel as the 51st state of the USA. So, US will always support Israel even if the they are blatantly wrong and the world is against Israel. Pathetic where our taxes go to.


Other 10 members nations are not permanent and get elected to the UNSC, their vote doesn't overrule a position.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by SoNature(m): 5:50am On Apr 19
AllenSpencer:
The reputation of the US is diminishing at a very fast rate. Despite the pro-Palestine protest rocking the US, it’s glaring that the government does not care about its citizens.

The US should know its days of global dominance are numbered. The awareness people now have via social
media is top notch, and their past and present evil deeds are being exposed on daily basis.

The UN itself needs to be scrapped. That’s not democracy! How can a single vote of a country override that of majority.


We cannot scrap the UN. The rest of world needs to call for fair representation at the UN assemblies.

I don't know if your comment was made out of hate for America or genuineness to see the world move forward, but one thing is certain - our world needs sane countries to police its affairs.

Our world is better under US and its allies than China. How a country treats its visitors and its minorities will tell you who they are.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by FreeStuffsNG: 5:50am On Apr 19
fastseo:




fastseo:


As you can see, it's like what Lesotho is to South Africa; landlocked with low land mass, low population, no naval asset and obviously not economically-prosperous. Our Independence Nationalists of Igbo extraction are wise for signing up to Nigeria wink

If you want to undo the decision of those wise men and women, go tell your current Senators, Governors, HOR men etc instead of wasting your time here on Nairaland. If you're a slave in Nigeria or consider yourself as one, it is quite unfortunate and I sympathise with you, please tell your representatives, it is his job to go to Abuja and ask and demand for for your freedom. The Palestinian Authorities don't have members in the Knesset, if they do, the Palestinians would have persuaded their legislators to set them free.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by PaZwoD: 5:54am On Apr 19
MadamExcellency:
Palestine – The myth we are now stuck with.
In May of 1964, the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) was created as a new means of fighting Israel. It is the Palestine Liberation Organization, meaning ‘from the River to the Sea’, not the ‘Palestinian’ Liberation Organization. There were no Palestinians, yet.

Suddenly, three years before the 1967 Six Day War, and for the first time in history, instead of Israel only fighting Arab regular armies, such as those of Jordan (which in 1948 occupied East Jerusalem, Samaria, and Judea, later known as Cisjordan, and even later as the West Bank) and Egypt (which occupied Gaza), Israel also had to fight a terrorist group calling itself the PLO.

The PLO was entirely the brainchild of the notorious Soviet spy agency, the KGB. It concocted the PLO the same way it did other national liberation movements, such as the Bolivian National Liberation Army, to create instability and expand the Soviet sphere of influence. It was the KGB, not self-professed Palestinian Arabs, which drafted the original Palestine National Charter. The KGB handpicked 422 Arabs who would be members of the PLO Council to rubber stamp the KGB’s Charter and adopt it as the PLO’s mission statement. Similarly, the KGB drafted both the Palestine National Covenant and Palestine Constitution.
The PLO adopted the KBG-drafted charter in 1964. Under Article 24, the PLO Charter dictates that the PLO is to control ALL LANDS UNDER ISRAELI AUTHORITY. It specifically excludes those lands already under Arab control, like that infamous ‘West Bank’ and Gaza, which were already occupied by Arab nations.
Article 24 states: “This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political, and financial fields.”

Even though the Arabs have been saying that the ‘occupation’ began in 1948, ‘the West’ continues to assert that ‘the Palestinians only want the West Bank and Gaza and that those are the only two areas to which they’ve ever referred when referring to ‘occupation’. There is a HUGE disconnect between reality and make-believe.

The Chairman of the KGB at the time, Vladimir Semichastny (1961-67), stated about the PLO’s formation: “We need to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel.” The goal was to use the Islamic world as the KGB’s puppets by instilling this Nazi-style hatred for Jews into their culture to then use the weapon of emotions that would result to turn them into terrorist groups working to destabilize and ultimately doom both Israel and the U.S.

Seven months later, in December 1964, the KGB hand-picked Yasser Arafat to be the first ‘Palestinian Arab’, in charge of the KGB’s campaign of dezinformatsiya (disinformation, in Russian) in the Islamic world. The KGB personally trained Arafat in the Soviet Union at its Balashikha special-ops school east of Moscow and groomed him as the future PLO leader. By the way, also Mahmoud Abbas was groomed there, wrote his ‘Holocaust denial’ thesis, and later became a KGB-agent under the pseudonym Krotov in Damascus in 1985.
To make Arafat credible as a leader of the PLO, the KGB concocted a background story that would show that Arafat was born in Jerusalem. The KGB even created false documents, such as a fake birth certificate for Arafat ‘proving’ he was born in Jerusalem. In reality, Arafat was both born and raised in Cairo, Egypt, as his real birth certificate was later revealed to show unequivocally.

As part of Arafat’s training, the KGB also selected a personal hero for him: the Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, who closely collaborated with Adolf Hitler before and during WW2. Via the KGB, the PLO appointed two former Nazi instructors, Erich Altern, a leader of the Gestapo’s Jewish affairs section, and Willy Berner, an SS officer who worked in the Mauthausen Extermination Camp. Another former Nazi, Johann Schuller, also supplied arms to the related terrorist organization that ultimately merged with the PLO, Fatah.
When the Soviets lost influence and their reputation after the defeat by Israel in the 5-10 June 1967 Six-Day War of Soviet-armed and trained Arab Armies, the new KGB Chairman, Yuri Andropov, drove the Palestinian myth to a height, and turned-up the pressure on the Jewish State via more dezinformatsiya campaigns and more guerrilla/terrorist tactics using KGB-created and trained ‘Palestinian freedom fighters’, instead of relying solely on regular Arab armies to destroy Israel.

On 11 December 1967, the KBG founded another terror group: the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), which was guided by Marxism and Leninism. The PFLP’s first leaders were Wadi Haddad and George Habash. Habash openly and repeatedly stated he viewed the ‘liberation of Palestine’ as an integral part of the world Communist Revolution.

The PFLP used more violent methods to try and achieve its goals: carry-out armed insurrection, perpetrate media-oriented attacks against Israel, and use airplane hijackings as a means of achieving international attention for the Communist and ‘Palestinian cause’. In 1969 alone, the PLO and PFLP hijacked 82 planes.
The battle cry became ‘fighting Imperial Zionism’, a modern adaptation of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and long a favorite tool of Russian intelligence to foment antisemitism.

At the same time, the KGB launched Operation SIG (Sionistskiye Gosudarstva), which was a disinformation campaign designed to sow worldwide enmity of Israel and the USA, labeling them racist, imperialist, and colonialist entities.
Operation SIG eventually included a global clandestine dezinformatsiya campaign against Israel that involved a combination of both propaganda and direct military support to any terrorist group that would declare itself the enemy of Israel. The number of terrorist groups has in the meantime increased to more than 25.

Part of Operation SIG included the KGB’s recruiting of thousands of doctors, engineers, technicians, professors and even dance instructors, who were all told to portray the USA as an arrogant and haughty Jewish fiefdom that was being financed by Jewish money, run by Jewish politicians, and whose goal was to subordinate the Islamic world.

Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, a Romanian Two-Star General in the DIE (Directia Informatii Externe, the secret police of the socialist republic of Romania) defected to the USA in July 1978, revealed that the Romanians were tasked with infiltrating Libya, Iran, Lebanon, and Syria with agents who were trained in antisemitic dezinformatsiya and terrorism. The DIE made use of an Arabic-language translation of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (till today one of the most popular books in the Arab world), along with ‘documentary’ material ‘proving that the United States was a Zionist country whose aim was to transform the Islamic world into a Jewish fiefdom.’
Operation SIG’s dezinformatsiya campaign ran from 1967 to 1988, and it built and weaponized narratives based on made-up or twisted facts. It distorted history, employed classic propaganda tools such as deception, guilt by association, and repetition to inculcate the key messages. It also shamelessly played on people’s sentiments, and it used both Soviet Jews and Muslims as instruments of its propaganda. It attempted to, and too-often succeeded in inflaming and spreading anti-Israeli sentiments by relying on old antisemitic tropes and inventing new ones.

The overall goal of the dezinformatsiya campaign of Operation SIG was to reframe the modern miracle of Israel, the first successful decolonization campaign in history, as actually being the prime example in the world of an oppressive, imperialist state that was built unjustly and at the expense of the ‘native population’. Operation SIG created an alliance that included Pan-Arabists, Pan-Islamists, and Nazism by focusing on what they all had in common: their hatred for Jews, for Israel, and for democracy.

The KGB’s tactics against Israel and the USA, which included carefully planted false stories about prominent leaders while seeking to convince the public at large that their reported falsehoods were true. By 1972, Andropov’s disinformation machinery was working around the clock to persuade the Islamic world that Israel and the USA intended to transform the rest of the world into a ‘Zionist fiefdom’. Andropov’s goal was to whip up illiterate, oppressed mobs in the Arab world to a fever pitch. In addition, he surmised that terrorism and violence against Israel and the USA would flow naturally from the Muslims’ antisemitic fervor. Besides making use of the Islamic world, he targeted his campaigns on the gullible leftist cabals: Communists, Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyists, Socialists, and the likes, such as fans of Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong.

Then in 1991, when the Soviet Union ceased to exist, the KGB was dismantled, and its functions were dispersed among various other parts of the new government, like spies often do, the KGB resurfaced with a different name, FSB, whose letters stand in Russian for Federal Security Service. Today, with a former KGB agent and FSB head named Vladimir Putin as the head of state, the organization once known as the KGB has regained much of its old reach and power. Nothing gained, nothing lost. Except that Russia now found a new ally, the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both Russia and Iran are dictatorships with the same goal: to undermine the international system, one on a political basis, communism, and territorial expansion, the other on a theocratic basis, the World Caliphate.

The Moscow-Tehran alliance’s mutual goal is to dominate the Middle East. It didn’t work out so perfectly for the USSR, but with this new alliance, it may now. Both support the Bashar al-Assad government of Syria, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, PFLP in ‘the West Bank’, Houthis in Yemen, Al Qaeda in the Sinai, Boko Haram in Nigeria, ISIS in the sub-Saharan countries, and Al Shabab in Somalia. Both Russia and Iran also support CAIR (the US arm of the Muslim Brotherhood) and the dictatorships in Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia. Iran’s IRGC controls the Tri-Border Area of Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay, where they are active in terrorism training (Hamas, Hezbollah) and foremost in money laundering, sales of arms, human and drugs trafficking.

The ‘old’ KGB dezinformatsiya campaign was revived and given a new life. On one hand, Russia continued its activities and expanded their collaborators to the far-right groups in Europe and North America, like the KKK, QAnon, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, National Action (UK), Nordic Resistance Movement (Scandinavia), Serbian Action (Serbia), Casa Pound (Italy), Golden Dawn (Greece), and Skydas (Lithuania). On the other hand, Russia increased its manipulation of Europe’s leftist and green parties in the UK (Labour), throughout Europe and in North America, mainly the ‘progressives’ of the Democratic party. Last, but not least, Russia and Iran increased their influences using the KGB’s concocted ‘Palestinian cause’ as a vehicle to foment and increase antisemitism, dressed up as anti-Zionism, on a global scale.

With the emergence of social media, Russia, together with the Islamic Republic of Iran, control more than 100 so-called NGOs of which Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem, Al-Haq, Hurryyat, Defence for Children, PCHR and ICHR are the most active. In addition, they operate at least 100 AI bots and have well over 50 notorious antisemites on their payroll who feed social media 24/7 with their fabrications and falsehoods.

Last but not least, the control of Russia, Iran, China, Cuba, Venezuela, South Africa, the Arab League nations and dozens of corruptible countries, not surprisingly the world’s major human rights abusers, over the UN, UNRWA, UNICEF, UNESCO, ICC, WHO, UNHRC, UNDP, UN WOMEN, ICJ, ILO evidences that these organizations are an absolute farce, obsessed with Israel whilst the world is on fire with hundreds of thousands are killed and starving to death year after year.

‘Free Palestine from the River to the Sea’ has become the war cry to replace free, democratic, multi-ethnic, multi-religious, successful Israel with another corrupt, Judenfrei, Islamic tyranny, to be named ‘Palestine’.

Sources: Wall Street Journal, Times of Israel, Tablet Magazine, National Review, News & Politics, Jewish Policy Center.

Western Twist

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by fastseo: 5:54am On Apr 19
FreeStuffsNG:
As you can see, it's like what Lesotho is to South Africa; landlocked with low land mass, low population, no naval asset and obviously not economically-prosperous. Our Independence Nationalists of Igbo extraction are wise for signing up to Nigeria wink

Then the other people u are supporting are?
Can u help list why u want them free
Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by dNortherner(m): 6:30am On Apr 19
[quote author=Akhaz024 post=129514934]@ Righteousness how market.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by GreenCovering: 6:34am On Apr 19
I hope some people can pick a lesson or two from the exclusionist policies of the world powers against Palestinians from the outset, forceful land grabbing of their lands and other outright refusal of their fundamental human rights by their empowered artificial proxy state that has led to the continual clashes from then till now, from this short piece, before coming out to tell us about an imaginary vision or unexplainable prophecies. God abhors hypocrisy.
sad

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by yommen: 6:39am On Apr 19
Splendid235:
They should also recognise BIAFRA pls. Nigeria is a mess.

I thought same but has Biafra gone as far as this? Have they ever applied and it be discussed at this level?
Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by DMerciful(m): 6:41am On Apr 19
We have 5 countries with veto power: USA, UK, Russia, China, France.

Anyone of them that opposes a resolution,
it fails. US and Russia use their vetoes mostly
100millionGoal:
So one USA vote equals those other useless countries.

How did the rest of the world sit and wallow USA become so powerful.

The world must stop depending on dollar

They print it as they like and buy things from other countries sucking the mineral resources of other countries and giving them printed dollars or computer numbers

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by LibertyRep: 6:44am On Apr 19
Nahunger:


Lol
Speaking from a sentimental perspective, do you know what they are benefitting for being members?? are you not surprised almighty Russia, China is there and they are mute 😂😂😂😂


Sentiment? Maybe.

They shouldn't even have voted to start with because this is demeaning. They should have simply asked what the position of the US is and they all sing ' long live the king' and ratify it.

I really care to know what the 'Almighty' Russia and China could be benefitting to have allowed them submit themselves to this humiliating condition. It must be something huuuuge!

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by yommen: 6:45am On Apr 19
MEGAWATCH:
If Palestine will be free,

BIAFRA WILL BE FREE AS WELL.


YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD WILL SWALLOW YOU.


But seriously, does Biafra actually deserve to be freed? Ojukwu killed Adaka Boro when Boro declared the State of the Niger Delta as a nation denying the Niger Delta their own nation all for Ojukwu to later declare the state of Biafra. You denied someone else freedom but want freedom.

Inside life!

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by DMerciful(m): 6:47am On Apr 19
The challenge is that they were misled in 1948 not to accept the land the UN gave them and Israel capitalized on it to claim a large portion of that land. Thats has been the issue even since and Israel keeps taking
okoroemeka:
I am still wondering what this Palestinians want,from 1939 to the early 90s they have been the option of a two state solution but they rejected it,why rushing to get un membership as a state while they don't want to be a state as a condition for peace with isreal,they don't recognize isreal as a state,this is too complicated to understand

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by babajero(m): 6:49am On Apr 19
Akhaz024:
@ Righteousness how market.


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Even if the world is given to them, they will still not be free because of the hate teachings of Islam and muhammed. In fact if only Muslims are left on earth you people will never still have peace. If Sunnis are not bombing shias, whabbis will be cutting the throats of salafis, or sufis will be chasing around berelvis and deobandis and shooting them down. Islam is of the devil and it is sustained with blood sacrifices.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by rollywise(m): 6:52am On Apr 19
Akhaz024:
@ Righteousness how market.


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Palestine shall be free from Israel brutality
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Only one against don scatter everything 😂

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by rollywise(m): 6:54am On Apr 19
AllenSpencer:
The reputation of the US is diminishing at a very fast rate. Despite the pro-Palestine protest rocking the US, it’s glaring that the government does not care about its citizens.

The US should know its days of global dominance are numbered. The awareness people now have via social
media is top notch, and their past and present evil deeds are being exposed on daily basis.

The UN itself needs to be scrapped. That’s not democracy! How can a single vote of a country override that of majority.





I thought you just said the US world power is speedily fading away? Why worry then? 😂 😂

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by aswani(m): 6:56am On Apr 19
Very strange, you dump people in a place where others are presently living in, forcefully push the people that they met there away, recognise the ones you dumped as a state and refuse the ones you pushed away statehood where you pushed them to.

Same US and UK were abstaining in resolutions against apartheid South Africa not too long ago, prolonging a regime that was a stain on humanity.

Ordinary one or two areas that Muslims dominate in their western countries, especially UK, they are complaining and shouting about taking their country back.

Dis life truly no balance.

PS: I am not a Muslim before certain people turn up and start using this post as proof that I am.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by MEGAWATCH: 7:00am On Apr 19
yommen:


But seriously, does Biafra actually deserve to be freed? Ojukwu killed Adaka Boro when Boro declared the State of the Niger Delta as a nation denying the Niger Delta their own nation all for Ojukwu to later declare the state of Biafra. You denied someone else freedom but want freedom.

Inside life!


Ojikwu killed Adaka Boro as the commander in chief of Nigeria or what?

I don't know why most of you are so engrossed with propaganda. Anyway, I don't blame you, I blame the history that was removed from the Nigeria school curriculum.
Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by shogsman(m): 7:03am On Apr 19
LibertyRep:
If one powerful member can veto and override the collective decision of other members n a group, isn't it the time for the other members to re-evaluate their membership?
They are called permanent members for a reason and both Russia and china vetoes bills too , when you provide as much funding to the UN as those countries you can talk then

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by MPESA(m): 7:03am On Apr 19
FreeStuffsNG:

This is a serious blow to Israel. The US and Isreal are seriously losing the optics while Hamas is winning the diplomatic war.

From the look of things, just like the ceasefire resolution that eventually passed with US abstaining from voting, the recognition of the Palestine state will pass eventually. It's never been this close.



Don't mislead people because it cannot be pass....

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Lighthammer(m): 7:04am On Apr 19
The united snake of amerikastani will pay for all this one day............ one day

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by eeithis(m): 7:17am On Apr 19
US has rejected palestines begging them to become part of us member because us knows that they are terror country

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by KingTom(m): 7:40am On Apr 19
One Veto vote is equal to 92 grin

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Procashtips(m): 7:43am On Apr 19
100millionGoal:
So one USA vote equals those other useless countries.

How did the rest of the world sit and wallow USA become so powerful.

The world must stop depending on dollar

They print it as they like and buy things from other countries sucking the mineral resources of other countries and giving them printed dollars or computer numbers

Wondering why the other 3 zeto power countries weren't captured in the vote

Russia
China
France are zeto powers just like the US and UK

There's no democracy anywhere in the world, do not be deceived.
Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Nahunger(m): 7:45am On Apr 19
LibertyRep:


Sentiment? Maybe.

They shouldn't even have voted to start with because this is demeaning. They should have simply asked what the position of the US is and they all sing ' long live the king' and ratify it.

I really care to know what the 'Almighty' Russia and China could be benefitting to have allowed them submit themselves to this humiliating condition. It must be something huuuuge!

That's why it's called international politics....

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Ewedegubbler: 7:52am On Apr 19
LibertyRep:
If one powerful member can veto and override the collective decision of other members n a group, isn't it the time for the other members to re-evaluate their membership?

They can go form their own splinter organisation and see how well they’re Gona fare.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by AK481(m): 7:55am On Apr 19
Us ,Russia and China have veto power.

If the whole world vote yes,and Russia votes No ,it won't still pass , its not just the US that can veto.the misinformation here is too much .

If the Palestinian is upgraded in UN at this moment ,it would be seem as a reward for what it did on october 7th.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Ewedegubbler: 7:58am On Apr 19
DMerciful:
The challenge is that they were misled in 1948 not to accept the land the UN gave them and Israel capitalized on it to claim a large portion of that land. Thats has been the issue even since and Israel keeps taking

Israel never occupied it. Jordan and Egypt did and when they went to war against Israel in 1967 Israel smashed them all and took the West Bank, Gaza, Golan heights and the Sinai peninsula from them.

Israel later gave back the Sinai to Egypt as part of the peace deal with Egypt. They gave back Gaza and West Bank to PLO as part of the peace deal with them but the Palestinians like the Oliver Twist want more than that even tho they’ve never won a single war against Israel.

It’s high time Israel deals with these mofos once and for all. No nation in the world defeats you in war a d then hands back the lands won except Israel.

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by 99thEnemy(m): 8:07am On Apr 19
Akhaz024:
@ Righteousness how market.


12 IN FAVOUR:
🇩🇿Algeria
🇲🇿Mozambique
🇸🇱 Sierra Leone
🇬🇾 Guyana
🇪🇨 Ecuador
🇷🇺 Russia
🇨🇳 China
🇫🇷 France
🇸🇮 Slovenia
🇲🇹 Malta
🇯🇵 Japan
🇰🇷Republic of Korea

1 AGAINST
🇺🇲 USA

2 ABSTENTATIONS
🇬🇧 UK
🇨🇭 Switzerland

Palestine shall be free from Israel brutality
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸



In the United Nations Security Council, any of the five permanent members (China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States) can exercise a veto power. This means that if just one of these five countries casts a negative vote (a veto), the resolution or decision does not pass, regardless of how many other member states vote in favor. This veto power is a mechanism designed to ensure that no resolution can be adopted if one or more of the major powers object to it, giving these countries significant influence over Security Council decisions. This system was established to prevent any one country or group of countries from dominating the Council’s decisions.
#COPIED



So if you understand the above, Palestine will still not become a member of the United Nations. They will remain an observer state (watch from the bench grin )

Last Last, Righteousness2 market still the sell well as regards to this issue. grin

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Ovacoma: 8:08am On Apr 19
No Palestinian state until the Palestinians recognise Israel right to exist and live side by side with each other in peace.
Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Lifestone(m): 8:27am On Apr 19
Timoleon:
Know this and know peace. If your leader is in good terms with the USA and the west, he isn't leading in the interest of your country.

The same Israel was created through a UN declaration speedily backed by USA. Now Palestine cannot be a country of its own because one country says so.

They tell you that they want to spread democracy to you but one country keeps dictating to the world.

My post is not to Palestinians, we get our own problems for here. My post is to the few that still have hope in this country Nigeria. Only we by ourselves can be for us. No international body exists for our interest. They all exist to keep us in check.
But Palestinians have rejected at 5 different occasions offers for Statehood. Beginning from 1948 when Israel was created, the State of Palestine was also proposed but was rejected by the Palestinians

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Re: U.S Vetoes Palestinian Bid For Recognition As Full U.N Member State by Babinski: 8:32am On Apr 19
Akhaz024:
@ Righteousness how market.


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Israeli actions in Gaza and West Bank are largely responses to provocations and attacks. If there is any freedom being sought by Palestinians, it is first to free them from the brutality and oppression of Hamas and Fatah groups. Palestinians that do not conform with Hamas or Fatah are being killed regularly and freedom of speech or association is dead under these monsters.

Secondly, is it not the same Palestinians Arabs that rejected the Two State solution proposed by the UN in 1947 and chose to go to war with Israel with the aim of eradicating the Jews? Now that their hatred for Jews, disregard for the UN and acts of terrorism have finally brought them pains, devastations and under-development, they now seek recognition for the same UN they disregarded decades ago? It is nice to see that at least one member of the UN Security Council is still sensible. Terrorists should not be accorded any respect whether they wear suits or turbans to the committee of nations because their driving philosophy remains barbaric, savage and anti-peace. Has the US stopped being a nation of infidels to the Islamists?

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