Candour:

Pity yourself friend. You that can't even explain what your god of men preaches to another nairalander is trying to pity somebody. nlmediator dropped some useful advice for you on the purchase thread opened by Joagbaje. Hope you read and internalise it. You only parrot what you hear every fellowship day without understanding and it was very glaring on that thread as it is when you talk about tithes.

Tithing as preached today is a perversion of Mosaic laws and a horrible scam. Even if I'm the only one remaining in the world holding this view, you bet my stand won't change.

Your churches that you're so proud of because of the money, crowd etc you have are mostly business centers trying to compete with dangote, adenuga and co and it shows in the greedy covetous people they churn out.

I was expecting to see your tithing testimony on Joagbaje's testimony thread. Pls go and give it so we can know how much 'tithe principle' works in your life abi you don't have testimony ne?

Tithing for Christians is a fraud and no amount of bible twisting can change it.

I will see you one day in Jos and we'll laugh and shake hands over drinks but until then, stop the scam and let people give freely and willingly

Very typical of Candour!



I await you in Jos!

Gombs:

Very typical of Candour!



I await you in Jos!

And see me you shall

Candour:

Because its not a competition and the fraudsters have engulfed the entire landscape. Is that so difficult to understand?

God is bringing his children out of the bondage just as he used one man to deliver the Christian world from the sale of indulgences.

There are churches that do not preach or collect tithes, but more importantly more and more Christians are discovering the truth and learning to think independently of the charlatans in suit and that is very evident on this forum.

I understand that feeling bro!

Gombs:



I understand that feeling bro!

Good to know you do

Cheers

candour or frosbel?

God2man.

Candour:

Because its not a competition and the fraudsters have engulfed the entire landscape. Is that so difficult to understand?

God is bringing his children out of the bondage just as he used one man to deliver the Christian world from the sale of indulgences.

There are churches that do not preach or collect tithes, but more importantly more and more Christians are discovering the truth and learning to think independently of the charlatans in suit and that is very evident on this forum.

Even in America where a lot of the ills that plague some forms of Christianity emanate and are quite prominent, see the surprising result of a survey done only two or so years ago in 2011.

From here http://www.nae.net/resources/news/547-evangelical-leaders-say-tithe-not-required

Short extract

"[size=14pt]Evangelical Leaders Say Tithe Not Required[/size]
Many evangelical churches regularly encourage their members to tithe, or give the church at least 10 percent of their income. Yet, according to the February Evangelical Leaders Survey, most evangelical leaders do not believe the Bible requires Christians to tithe. The survey showed that 58 percent do not believe the Bible requires a tithe, while 42 percent do."

God2man:

candour or frosbel?

God2man.

Abi o?

God2man:

candour or frosbel?

God2man.

Make your pick bro.....the choice is yours

Gombs:

Abi o?

See your mouth.

Wait until I catch you for J-town

Here are the list of churches that do not teach nor collect tithe around the world:

ALABAMA. Hanceville, The Hope Center-805 Main St SW (Hwy 31 S) 256.352.4729

ALABAMA; Mobile, St Stephens AME, Dr Harrison Wilson

ALABAMA: VINELAND PARK REFORMED BAPTIST, HUEYTOWN

ARIZ, MESA; NEW COVENANT BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

ARIZ, PHOENIX: ABIDING IN CHRIST BAPTIST FELLOWSHIP

ARIZ, Tiempe, NEW COV BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

CALIF, PALO ALTO, PENINSULA BIBLE CHURCH

CALIF, SUN CITY, GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH

COLO, ARVADA, GRACE CHURCH

COLO, LITTLETON, FOOTHILLS BIBLE CHURCH

FLA, HERNANDO, RIVERSIDE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP

GEORGIA, ACWORTH, IRON HILL BAPTIST

GEORGIA, SHARPSBURG; FAITH BIBLE CHURCH

GEORGIA; Gainesville, Feed My Sheep Church

GEORGIA, TUCKER, Faith Christian Church

GEORGIA, WOODSTOCK, Prayer and Praise

INDIANA, AVON; GRACE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH

IND, INDIANAPOLIS; SOLID WORD BIBLE CHURCH

KANSAS, LYONS, FIRST BAPTIST 11-2010

MICH, Detroit; Kingdom Living Ministries 13509 Gratiot

MINN, ST PAUL; WOODLAND HILLS CHURCH

MINN-ST PAUL, TWIN CITIES FELLOWSHIP

MISSOURI, EMMA; Lutheran, Rev Snyder

MISSOURI, St Louis, Victory Way Missionary Baptist

N. CAROLINA; APEX, TRIANGLE COMMUNITY CHURCH

N. CAROLINA; CROSSROADS BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

N. CAROLINA, WILMINGTON, SURFSIDE FELLOWSHIP

OHIO, CHESAPEAKE; UNION MISSIONARY BAPTIST

OHIO, CINCINNATI; NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP; 631 DEVITO AVE

OHIO, E CLEVELAND, NEW BIRTH CHURCH

OHIO, DAYTON; GRACE CHRISTIAN CENTER

OKLAHOMA, ENID: EMMANUEL BAPTIST SBC

OKLAHOMA, TULSA: Prayer Centre, Dave Roberson

TEXAS, ARLINGTON, Paradise Primitive Baptist Church

Texas, Austin, Austin Bible Church

TEXAS. HOUSTON, Mills Road Baptist, Dave Goodgame

TEXAS, NOCOMA, First Baptist, Dave Woodbury

VIRGINIA, Ridgeway, Paradise Temple Jones

VIRGINIA: Sandston; Tabernacle of Truth, H Pollard Jr

England, London, All Souls, Langham Place

Canada, Saskatoon, Abundant Grace Fellowship, Ron Mills

South Africa, Cape Town; Separate World Assy; Anchor of Faith International

IMMANUEL FOUNDATION MINISTRIES
PO BOX 31030 CLOCK TOWER
KAMPALA UGANDA EAST AFRICA
MAKINDYE HILL VIEW

ACCORDIN TO THEORY OF GOD2MAN,POPULATION JUSTIFIES THE TRUTH....NUMBER OF TITHE SUPORTERS SURPASSES ANTI TITHE,HENCE TITHE PRECHERS ARE RIGHT

Gombs: List of few tithing churches

RCCG
WINNERS
ECWA
COCIN
BAPTIST
METHODIST
CHURCH OF GOD MISSION
DUNAMIS
KICC
SYNAGOGUE CHURCH OF ALL NATION
CHRIST EMBASSY
ANGLICAN
CATHOLIC
DLBC
Just to mention a few


Why can't anti tithers list TEN...only TEN anti tithing churches?

Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz members.Catholics are encouraged to contribute to the church in any percentage be it 1-100%.

The cathechism of the catholic church does not stipulate mandatory payment of 10% of our income.

Joagbaje:


I know 3 of them churches

1. The wayward church
2. Sheep without shepherd assembly
3. Church of the rebellion

Sir, may I add;a number 4
»Assemblies of Tithe Critics
AKA Certified Robbers of God

Kenny4lyfe:

Sir, may I add;a number 4
»Assemblies of Tithe Critics
AKA Certified Robbers of God

You see how dishonest you and your pastors are?

Later you'll start lying you don't tithe because of Mal 3:8-12. Keep deceiving your selves.

I wonder why your devourer has not being able to devour the 1billion Catholics who no longer operate by tithing.

Chukwudi44 , a well known Catholic on NL has blown your lies out in the open. Catholics are encouraged to give as they desire and are able which is exactly what the apostles encouraged their converts to be doing and which we are advocating today.

Keep contributing to make your god of men have enough resources to keep their hair gelled. You'll be repaid with cartons of sophisticated hair cream I suppose.

chukwudi44:

Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz members.Catholics are encouraged to contribute to the church in any percentage be it 1-100%.

The cathechism of the catholic church does not stipulate mandatory payment of 10% of our income.

somebody said catholic pay tithe, another person is economical with the truth.

Then what is the stand of catholic on tithe?

Do they preach against it?

Do they reject tithe?

Is catholic an Anti-tithe church?

These are questions begging for answers.

God2man.

chukwudi44:

Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz members. Catholics are encouraged to contribute to the church in any percentage be it 1-100%.

The cathechism of the catholic church does not stipulate mandatory payment of 10% of our income.

A quick quiz

Do Catholics pay/give tithes?

Yes or No

Which one is "does not preach compulsory tithing"?

Do they pay tithes, YES or NO?

Or let me put it this way

Is the Catholic Church an Anti tithing Church?
YES or NO will do

Candour:

You see how dishonest you and your pastors are?

Later you'll start lying you don't tithe because of Mal 3:8-12. Keep deceiving your selves.

I wonder why your devourer has not being able to devour the 1billion Catholics who no longer operate by tithing.

FAT LIE...who told you Catholic no longer Give tithes?
Compare the words in bold above to what Chukwudi said below
"Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz
members."

do you have dyslexia?

Chukwudi44 , a well known Catholic on NL has blown your lies out in the open. Catholics are encouraged to give as they desire and are able which is exactly what the apostles encouraged their converts to be doing and which we are advocating today.
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Candour o!

[qoute]
Keep contributing to make your god of men have enough resources to keep their hair gelled. You'll be repaid with cartons of sophisticated hair cream I suppose.

We aint complaining!
Y complain for us? Is it your money?
See height of desperation abeg!

Gombs:

FAT LIE...who told you Catholic no longer Give tithes?
Compare the words in bold above to what Chukwudi said below
"Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz
members."

do you have dyslexia?

Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Catholics no longer practice compulsory tithing but are encouraged to contribute anything from 1-100% means they no longer operate by tithing, you know why? because tithe is strictly 10%. and if you dont operate a strict 10% threshold, then you're no longer operating by tithing or you want to prove Abraham gave more than 10%?

Tithe is 10%....No more, No less

Its that simple.

We aint complaining!
Y complain for us? Is it your money?

As if you have a choice. Complain to your pastor na if you get liver....make e prophesy devourer, poverty and sickness upon your head courtesy of Mal 3:8-12

Abraham's example indeed!!

You belong to your god of men my friend. Do well to start doing your thinking yourself.

See height of desperation abeg!

You lied against the Catholic church and a Catholic called you out. Catholics mooted the idea of Tithes for the church at Tours in 567AD, ratified it at Macon in 585AD and even then, its was strictly Agric produce meaning Christianity survived for 550 years without compulsory tithes .Catholics are obligated to support the church but are not given a percentage to abide by. Ask a Catholic who knows to educate you. Fr Gyang can even help you out

So on the issue of Catholic tithing, you're very wrong. Just admit it even if to yourself.

www.forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=121898

www.saint-mike.org/library/rule/excerpts/principles_tithing.html

The first is a catholic forum on tithing

The second is the "Philosophy and Principles of Tithing
according to the Rule of St. Michael"

You lads should read it and answer whether the Catholic Church is Anti Tithing!


And Here, Catholic Churches ENCOURAGE TITHING. Chukwudi are you sure you are a catholic? I once were a catholic, I was in Legion of Mary, I knw a lot about CCRN, I know about a lot of saints, etc

And then, we were encouraged to bring in em tithes

Gombs: www.forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=121898

www.saint-mike.org/library/rule/excerpts/principles_tithing.html

The first is a catholic forum on tithing

The second is the "Philosophy and Principles of Tithing
according to the Rule of St. Michael"

You lads should read it and answer whether the Catholic Church is Anti Tithing!


And Here, Catholic Churches ENCOURAGE TITHING. Chukwudi are you sure you are a catholic? I once were a catholic, I was in Legion of Mary, I knw a lot about CCRN, I know about a lot of saints, etc

And then, we were encouraged to bring in em tithes

i'm loving this. search engines will be very busy today

Also be honest enough to check the links below

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14741b.htm

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-is-the-churchs-position-on-tithing

Candour:
[s]
Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Catholics no longer practice compulsory tithing but are encouraged to contribute anything from 1-100% means they no longer operate by tithing, you know why? because tithe is strictly 10%. and if you dont operate a strict 10% threshold, then you're no longer operating by tithing or you want to prove Abraham gave more than 10%?

Tithe is 10%....No more, No less

Its that simple.





As if you have a choice. Complain to your pastor na if you get liver....make e prophesy devourer, poverty and sickness upon your head courtesy of Mal 3:8-12

Abraham's example indeed!!

You belong to your god of men my friend. Do well to start doing your thinking yourself.



You lied against the Catholic church and a Catholic called you out. Catholics mooted the idea of Tithes for the church at Tours in 567AD, ratified it at Macon in 585AD and even then, its was strictly Agric produce meaning Christianity survived for 550 years without compulsory tithes .Catholics are obligated to support the church but are not given a percentage to abide by. Ask a Catholic who knows to educate you. Fr Gyang can even help you out

So on the issue of Catholic tithing, you're very wrong. Just admit it even if to yourself.
[/s]

Simple question

Is The Catholic Church an ANTI-Tithe Church?

YES or NO

If you can't answer this simple question, I will understand why!

Gombs:

Simple question

Is The Catholic Church an ANTI-Tithe Church?

YES or NO

If you can't answer this simple question, I will understand why!

Is your church a PRO-TITHE Church? Your answer will help me answer yours.

Catholic church does not preach compulsory tithes. Give as you're able and led is their philosophy.

If you dont understand this simple statement, i already know why

...

Folks can't answer a simple YES or No question even after he saw that I listed Catholic Church in the list of Churches that preaches and receive tithes. He's still asking me flimsy question to dodge answering a simple Yes or No question

Asking me whether my Church is pro tithing so that he can derail from the topic of the thread. As if, if my church were anti tithing, I'd be here asking them to give list of anti tithe churches or supporting tithing views

Folks that can't list the anti tithing churches they attend

Folks who think they are smarter both mentally and spiritually and scripturally than hundreds of Millions who tithe.



Back to the Matter, we are not discussing catholism here, or compulsory tithe or not compulsory


We want to know JUST 10 anti tithe churches in Nigeria.


Pls give the list to the world to see, (you guys can't even spell out the churches you attend ) or simply bury your heads in shame.


1 wrong answer again and I'm off this thread with full smile that anti tithe crew can't list 10 churches that are against tithing (preach against it) and also that they can't post their church names, churches which they themselves say preach against tithing.

Gombs: ...

Folks can't answer a simple YES or No question even after he saw that I listed Catholic Church in the list of Churches that preaches and receive tithes. He's still asking me whether flimsy question to dodge answering a simple Yes or No question

Asking me whether my Church is pro tithing as if, if my church were anti tithing, I'd be here asking them to give list of anti tithe churches!

Folks that can't list the anti tithing churches they attend

Folks who think they are smarter both mentally and spiritually and scripturally than hundreds of Millions who tithe.

A Catholic told you they do not preach tithing, i said the same thing. So strike them from your list. They are not with you in the scam.

If we list it, what will you do with it? and if we dont, will do more than laughing and scoffing? so go ahead and start your enjoyment.
I told you one Church i attend and they DO NOT preach tithing so do what you want with the info.

It'll do you well to realise numbers dont determine correctness. I told you in the other thread that millions have followed dumb beliefs for ages so pls drop this herd mentality. Do your own thinking by yourself and stop relying on the crowd to help you know what is true or false. Has it ever occurred to you that you and your particular group might have been fooled by the gelled smart man?

Back to the Matter, we are not discussing catholism here,

You dont want to discuss Catholicism again? i thought you know so much about them? Go dig up more links to support your false claims.

We want to know JUST 10 anti tithe churches in Nigeria.


Pls give the list to the world to see, (you guys can't even spell out the churches you attend ) or simply bury your heads in shame.

What do you need the list for? to help you make up your mind to continue or stop being fleeced? since you obviously need numbers to help you make up your mind

I dont have a list of 10 because i didn't brag about any number.

I have given you the name of one i attend, now do what you want to do with it.

Protithe ; those who insist tithing is compulsory nt voluntary

antitithe, insist tithing is voluntary not compulsory

pro-tithers;all nigeria enterprise private church

antitithers;foreign imported churches e.g catholic, baptist,presebterian,jehova witness,adventist,sabath,etc

tobechi20: ACCORDIN TO THEORY OF GOD2MAN,POPULATION JUSTIFIES THE TRUTH....NUMBER OF TITHE SUPORTERS SURPASSES ANTI TITHE,HENCE TITHE PRECHERS ARE RIGHT

may i deduce the following

population wise,over 60% of xtians are catholics....catholis preach purgatory,veneration oof saointss,bowin to images etc

they cant possibly b wrong since majority is always right-god2man theory

all pentecoastals arre wrong.catholic is write

Candour:
[s]
A Catholic told you they do not preach tithing, i said the same thing. So strike them from your list. They are not with you in the scam.

If we list it, what will you do with it? and if we dont, will do more than laughing and scoffing? so go ahead and start your enjoyment.
I told you one Church i attend and they DO NOT preach tithing so do what you want with the info.

It'll do you well to realise numbers dont determine correctness. I told you in the other thread that millions have followed dumb beliefs for ages so pls drop this herd mentality. Do your own thinking by yourself and stop relying on the crowd to help you know what is true or false. Has it ever occurred to you that you and your particular group might have been fooled by the gelled smart man?




You dont want to discuss Catholicism again? i thought you know so much about them? Go dig up more links to support your false claims.



What do you need the list for? to help you make up your mind to continue or stop being fleeced? since you obviously need numbers to help you make up your mind
[/s]
I dont have a list of 10 [s] because i didn't brag about any number.

I have given you the name of one i attend, now do what you want to do with it.
[/s]

The words in bold is what you and your band would have said since page 1, anyways, this will do. I have a big smile on my face.


Good day lads

*unfollows thread

Gombs:

The words in bold is what you and your band would have said since page 1, anyways, this will do. I have a big smile on my face.


Good day lads

*unfollows thread

Congratulations on your victory. Hope you spend the cash prize very well

As you go learn the following

1. High numbers doesn't translate to correctness, the crowd is not always right

2. The Catholic church doesn't preach tithe so dont use them as leverage in your scams

3. Christians are only to give voluntarily, no stipulated percentages.

4. We didn't hear the truth about tithes from churches but from in-depth personal study of the word of God.

5. There are churches that dont preach tithes and more will come up.

I have been attending Covenant Christian Center for sometime and I noticed they do not stress on tithing like they do in other pentecostal churches. Although, the envelopes are passed around during offering time.

In my Christian walk, I have learnt that the crowd is not necessarily right one of which is most pentecostal teaching that Alcohol is a sin. I know better because I asked the Holy spirit and not a MOG. Same reason I know better about tithing.

GOD is not a Slot machine! When you claim to tithe based on Malachi 3 then how can you claim you give to God because you love him?

Processor01: I have been attending Covenant Christian Center for sometime and I noticed they do not stress on tithing like they do in other pentecostal churches. Although, the envelopes are passed around during offering time.

In my Christian walk, I have learnt that the crowd is not necessarily right one of which is most pentecostal teaching that Alcohol is a sin. I know better because I asked the Holy spirit and not a MOG. Same reason I know better about tithing.

GOD is not a Slot machine! When you claim to tithe based on Malachi 3 then how can you claim you give to God because you love him?

Thank you my brother for your steadfastness.

Some glory in numbers and money, but we glory in Christ and his finished work.

God is not a gambling machine and we dont give to impress him or force his hand.

God bless you indeed

Processor01: To be frank, there has been so much debate on here about tithing and while I have completely stopped tithing I still find it hard to fit into churches that still practice this.

I was wondering if others could share a list of churches that do not preach tithing.

Waiting for the likes of Drummaboy, Goshen, Pastor Kun, Candour and all others.

GOD BLESS

What the OP asked for is that which is bolded above. The answers provided to that have already well exceeded 10.

OK the OP mentions "anti-tithe"; BUT we can see clearly what the OP means by that i.e. churches that do not preach tithing. Again, as I said, the answers provided have already exceeded ten.

As another poster suggested, the use of language on the thread suggests that this is the dichotomy:

"Pro-tithe" churches = churches who preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

"Anti-tithe" = churches that do not preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

A couple of observations:

The use of "anti-tithe" for individuals is obviously an attempt to paint the challengers of the tithing doctrine negatively, effectively an ad hominem. To some extent, this is understandable in the sense that the tithing opponents can be said to be anti i.e. against tithe (though even that is not quite accurate!).

The use of "anti-tithe" for "churches" is a deliberate or duplicitous chicanery because churches are not the ones as such contending the tithing doctrine. Rather what churches do is adopt a doctrinal stance and preach/practice that stance. What is more, there is no church that says if a giver chooses to give or make an offering of 10% they will not accept it!

See how absurd it can get: Oyedepo does his slapping deliverance, is he pro-slapping? Are churches who don't do slapping "anti-slapping"?

What about "pro anointing oil" versus "anti-anointing oil"? What about "pro-holiness" versus "anti-holiness" (make Deeper they fight Chris Embassy on that one).

The arguments of the tithe-mongers on the biblical teaching are weak as is already well known. Their quest for "anti-tithe" churches is a puerile nonsense that is only worthy of such as tithe-mongers to be honest.

Enigma:

What the OP asked for is that which is bolded above. The answers provided to that have already well exceeded 10.

OK the OP mentions "anti-tithe"; BUT we can see clearly what the OP means by that i.e. churches that do not preach tithing. Again, as I said, the answers provided have already exceeded ten.

As another poster suggested, the use of language on the thread suggests that this is the dichotomy:

"Pro-tithe" churches = churches who preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

"Anti-tithe" = churches that do not preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

A couple of observations:

The use of "anti-tithe" for individuals is obviously an attempt to paint the challengers of the tithing doctrine negatively, effectively an ad hominem. To some extent, this is understandable in the sense that the tithing opponents can be said to be anti i.e. against tithe (though even that is not quite accurate!).

The use of "anti-tithe" for "churches" is a deliberate or duplicitous chicanery because churches are not the ones as such contending the tithing doctrine. Rather what churches do is adopt a doctrinal stance and preach/practice that stance. What is more, there is no church that says if a giver chooses to give or make an offering of 10% they will not accept it!

See how absurd it can get: Oyedepo does his slapping deliverance, is he pro-slapping? Are churches who don't do slapping "anti-slapping"?

What about "pro anointing oil" versus "anti-anointing oil"? What about "pro-holiness" versus "anti-holiness" (make Deeper they fight Chris Embassy on that one).

The arguments of the tithe-mongers on the biblical teaching are weak as is already well known. Their quest for "anti-tithe" churches is a puerile nonsense that is only worthy of such as tithe-mongers to be honest.

Pro-tithers and Anti-tithers.

Pro-tither- supporting or appproving the doctrine of tithing.

Anti-tither- opposed to or against the docrine of tithing.

Op said churches that do not preach about tithe, you have added another vocabulary, "obligatory" "mandatory".

There is a big difference between Pro and Anti, now, let me ask you, is there any church that has a doctrinal stand against Tithe?

If you ask me, i will say no.

Thank God, i am yet to see any church condemning tithe as you people condemn it on this forum, you criticized, castigate and went ahead to call men of God names like, thieves, fraudulent preachers, and so many absurd names.

If we have churches preaching against tithe this way, there will be no problem, but it is difficult to see a church taking a doctrinal stand and stipulates that Tithe is a fraud. It is very difficult. If there is any, let me know.

You also said those churches are already more than ten. Where are they?

Too bad.

God2man.
According to the Op