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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Tobtex(m): 5:52pm On Aug 26, 2014
It is a great feat though. But mehn, these cylinders are quite small o. I believe they are giving it out to families and no undergraduate. Anyhow sha... undecided undecided undecided
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by emiye(m): 6:00pm On Aug 26, 2014
free2ryhme:

Our ancestors used firewords and some lived to be over 80. They neither had cancer, diabetes, etc . Now lagos state is using health grounds as a strategy to sell their gas as if na mumu we be. Oya the mugus in lagos make una dey buy gas as una like ooo


Even before the gas we still dey cook and life never became harder . Y now? Lagosians are d most gullible ever . I am 100% certain dat 98% of comments are from children living under their parents roof

You are displaying ignorance with so much pride undecided , i am forced to think you are pre teen.

Have you heard about Environmental sustainability? You will have to fell more trees to get firewood, if you continue at that rate, there might be no more trees for firewood and other purposes, except the society is planting far higher number of trees than it is felling.(afforestation vs deforestation)

Combustion of wood releases green house gases, depletes ozone layer and more global warming.


It is a faulty long held belief that usage of gas is not for low income earners, you spend less using gas than kerosene., it is pocket friendly.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by drsteroid(m): 6:11pm On Aug 26, 2014
msmon:

How does it help from the medical angle?
smoke which re being emitted 4rm firewood n stove contains carbon monoxide wch finds its way in2 the food being cooked.this in turn competes wit d haemoglobin by binding to haemoglobin of RBC leading 2 formation of carboxy hemoglobin,which is injurious 2 d health..also,smoke is one of the major causes of pterygium,(a growth occuring on the conjuctiva which later covers the cornea)along side dust and other exogenous substances.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Nobody: 6:27pm On Aug 26, 2014
Cooking gas is better than kero of fire wood... but I have this childhood phobia after i saw what it did to guy decades ago. I still got one for myself though... grin
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by bedfordng(m): 6:34pm On Aug 26, 2014
lagos on point.this is a welcome development
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by free2ryhme: 6:56pm On Aug 26, 2014
Bawss1:

Everyone is free to cook their meals with whatever fuel they want, LPG or kerosene or even charcoal. For those that are concerned about which option poses fewer health, safety and environmental concerns they will go for LPG.Simple. It also the fastest option and it suffers less from scarcity of supply unlike the others.

I will support any drive that moves for the adoption of LPG in homes whether its from the Lagos or Kano state govt. (I don't even live in Lagos) Couple this push for LPG with affordable pricing and this will be a sure win. All your cries about the common man and kerosene are misplaced here - direct it to NNPC or the FG since kerosene is your preferred choice.

Look at who is concerned about the environment. Go and check out the areas we get the oil for kerosene and LPG from and tell how the environment look like. Guy make we hear word jor
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by free2ryhme: 7:00pm On Aug 26, 2014
emiye:

You are displaying ignorance with so much pride undecided , i am forced to think you are pre teen.

Have you heard about Environmental sustainability? You will have to fell more trees to get firewood, if you continue at that rate, there might be no more trees for firewood and other purposes, except the society is planting far higher number of trees than it is felling.(afforestation vs deforestation)

Combustion of wood releases green house gases, depletes ozone layer and more global warming.


It is a faulty long held belief that usage of gas is not for low income earners, you spend less using gas than kerosene., it is pocket friendly.


Since we have been using the trees or kerosene show me where there has been deforestation. Give me proof. Stop using western issues to just use of gas. Go check your records african contribute very minimal to the effect of green house on the ozone layer
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Nobody: 7:07pm On Aug 26, 2014
Nobleval: you are right. Folks prefer spending little continously to going for the real thing. Nigerian mentality....you see.
I think when it comes to being frugal I think the middle class comes first, the lower class tends to spend much due low purchasing power( They have this mentality that buying each day makes them spend lower n also to attend to other pressing issues.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Johnnoo(m): 7:08pm On Aug 26, 2014
berem: The price of refilling a 12.5kg cylinder is quite on the high side. A common man cannot afford 2,800naira for that. The price should be reduced if they want a success in their campaign.
2.800NGN is a good price!!! In PH its 4k
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 26, 2014
360command: I can use the size of gas for 4-5month. I guess you cook daily? What I mean is , if I am buying ingredients for soup,stew, I close my eyes to do it and buy in large quatities which I keep in freezer. I cook my soup every 3weeks. If you are cooking beans,just be precised on the amount of water that would be use for cooking it cause the more you add water,the more you consume more gas. This can be applied to food like rice.
No I don't cook each day, I have my soup n stew prepared n stored in the freezer that last for like 12 to 14 days, though I still cook other things shaaaa ( I don learn today so the more u add more water cooking the more gas you burn) from today I go go buy big pot then.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Pvin: 7:16pm On Aug 26, 2014
Nobleval: you are right. Folks prefer spending little continously to going for the real thing. Nigerian mentality....you see.
call it penny wise pound foolish. Btw, if every home begins to use gas what will happen to mr. Kero

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by rezzy: 7:48pm On Aug 26, 2014
berem: babes,I just went to refill my cylinder an hour ago. The Eko Gas is real o! It is located right inside my estate. Lemme upload the picture of the flyer I collected. Unfortunately,I didn't take my phone with me to the refilling plant. I would have taken pictures.

Did they give u cylinder for free? How much did u refil urs. I have a cylinder but dont know how many kg.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by rezzy: 7:50pm On Aug 26, 2014
msmon: Has anyone learn about the gem fuel stove?

Bio gel? Its rubbish. I wasted my full 5k.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Oringo1: 8:10pm On Aug 26, 2014
This is old news ....Is already happening in Enugu .
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by codeworks(m): 9:03pm On Aug 26, 2014
berem: The price of refilling a 12.5kg cylinder is quite on the high side. A common man cannot afford 2,800naira for that. The price should be reduced if they want a success in their campaign.

we buy 12.5kg of cooking gas 3,800 in Port Harcourt. I think 2000 Naira is a reasonable price
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by erico2k2(m): 9:33pm On Aug 26, 2014
berem: The price of refilling a 12.5kg cylinder is quite on the high side. A common man cannot afford 2,800naira for that. The price should be reduced if they want a success in their campaign.
Howmuch for equal quantity of kero?
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by emiye(m): 9:38pm On Aug 26, 2014
free2ryhme:


Since we have been using the trees or kerosene show me where there has been deforestation. Give me proof. Stop using western issues to just use of gas. Go check your records african contribute very minimal to the effect of green house on the ozone layer
The proof you seek for surrounds you, you are only blind to it. Start from your village if you have one, i can bet there are fewer trees than they were 10 years ago, and the decline is continuos, 1.e there would be fewer trees than now in the years to come. I am sure in your mind when the govt embarked on an aggressive drive to plant more trees, you must have seen it as a needless jamboree, but your thoughts are so wrong and shallow.

Why must you subject yourself to an archaic and difficult way of doing things, simply because you feel it is "african". If you are no longer using kerosene lantern in your home, but rechargeable lamp, then you are a first grade hypocrite.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by free2ryhme: 9:51pm On Aug 26, 2014
emiye: The proof you seek for surrounds you, you are only blind to it. Start from your village if you have one, i can bet there are fewer trees than they were 10 years, and the decline is continuos, 1.e there would be fewer trees than now in the years to come. I am sure in your mind when the govt embarked on an aggressive drive to plant more trees, you must have seen it as a needless jamboree, but your thoughts are so wrong and shallow.

Why must you subject yourself to an archaic and difficult way of doing things, simply because you feel it is "african". If you are no longer using kerosene lantern in your home, but rechargeable lamp, then you are a first grade hypocrite.


Guy. The trees in my village still stand and can last 40 generations . Guy let those want to use wood and kerosene use it save your enviroment scam to yourself
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by Bawss1(m): 10:09pm On Aug 26, 2014
free2ryhme:

Look at who is concerned about the environment. Go and check out the areas we get the oil for kerosene and LPG from and tell how the environment look like. Guy make we hear word jor

What is the point in being so obstinate? Overall LPG is the better option - even in terms of cost!

I'm willing to even bet that you use gas in preparing your own meals but because you are the self styled advocate of the "common man" you refused to see reason. Keep on insisting that people use kerosene, more and people with a bit of sense will go for LPG that cooks their meals faster and cleaner and also won't dig a hole in their pockets in the long run.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by free2ryhme: 10:50pm On Aug 26, 2014
Bawss1:

What is the point in being so obstinate? Overall LPG is the better option - even in terms of cost!

I'm willing to even bet that you use gas in preparing your own meals but because you are the self styled advocate of the "common man" you refused to see reason. Keep on insisting that people use kerosene, more and people with a bit of sense will go for LPG that cooks their meals faster and cleaner and also won't dig a hole in their pockets in the long run.


Guy I use gas ooo but if people can't afford gas but kerosene and firewood let them be abeg. Afterall almost all d owambe parties na kerosene and firewood dem use cook am
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by vision2050: 11:24pm On Aug 26, 2014
No more washing of black pot, I can carry my pot on Bed. #1700 for 6k here in Ogun state almost 2months and it never finish, though I'm still single.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by laudate: 11:47pm On Aug 26, 2014
nickxtra: How often do you cook that your 12.5kg takes you upto 3 months? Even when I was single and seldom cook, it lasted only for about 2 months, but now with my wife and baby, it does not take us upto a month. So what's your magic?

Please check the following:

(1) Do you refill your cylinder from an accredited gas plant, petrol station or from the roadside? If you refill from the roadside, you may be cheated by those roadside retailers, as they often 'under-fill' the cylinders with a much lower quantity, than what is required. If you do not have a gauge to check the contents or refill level, or do not use a scale to weigh the cylinder before & after you refill, you may have been short-changed by your retailer. The result is that the gas cylinder refill, will not last as long it should, in your household. sad

(2) Is your gas cylinder valve leaking or damaged? This could cause the gas to escape in small quantities over a period of time, and such losses mean that the quantity of gas left in the cylinder, would not be enough to meet your needs over a period of time. Check your valves and make sure it does not leak. If it does, take it to a competent gas plant to be fixed, or buy a new cylinder.

(3) Are your burners emitting soot or have they been burning slowly and inefficiently? Please service your gas cooker regularly to ensure it performs optimally and the holes remain unblocked by oil or sediments from your cooking pot. That way, you would use less gas and your cylinder refill, would last much longer.

(4) Finally, get a good portable fire extinguisher, keep it in your kitchen and learn how to use it in case of an emergency! wink

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by laudate: 11:52pm On Aug 26, 2014
free2ryhme:

You talk of cheaper I talk about accessibility. How many homes can afford gas since u claim it is cheap?. You don't just approve any initiatives that comes from the govt. Large number of homes consume more of kerosene than gas suddebnly they all ran health risk becos lagos state wants to sell gas abi?, what has the govt done to make kerosene accessible to the common man? what have become of all the subisidy and the initiatives to make it kerosene accessible?

How manypeople have complained to you that they don't have money to buy kerosene? Yet I know of many peopl who can't afford gas

Guy you are too shallow to see what govt is trying to do here

All those families need to do, is buy the size of gas cylinder they can afford. From 3 kg to 6 kg, there is a wide variety for everyone. Refilling the 6 kg, costs between =N=1,200 and =N=1,800 in Lagos. To refill the 3kg, is even cheaper... undecided

Some of those families that complain that they can't afford gas need to be educated on its benefits and hazards. If you visit such homes, they probably also have a TV set, a refrigerator and other electronic gadgets in their small one-room apartment or face-me-I-face you block. If they can spend money to acquire all those gadgets, they can certainly spend a few extra quid on a good 6kg gas burner.

It is not compulsory to buy a 12.5kg cylinder. The only thing with the smaller cylinders, is that you have to go out more often to refill them, if you are a heavy user.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by easystudy101: 1:59am On Aug 27, 2014
ok oo!
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by MOBBDEEP: 2:17am On Aug 27, 2014
I still don't get why people opine guess as facts!
Seeing a lot of people on this thread claiming gas is cheaper economically at the price of 2800 for 12.5KG cylinder really got my eyes popping wide.
Simply because it's completely false.
Yes, gas is faster, more convenient, obviously ecologically friendlier, does not blacken pots with soots and comes with this 'touchéness'.

But cheaper!?, that is a blatant lie.
Let me illustrate it well.
I do a light cooking once a day early in the morning plus a heavy cooking once a month usually a Saturday.
Initially, I bought 15 litres of Kerosene at 120 Naira/Litre = 1800.
I used this for 4months.
Then I purchased these two 12.5Kg which I filled at Aba (Abia State) at 3200 per 12.5Kg cylinder.
Each cylinder lasted an average of 18 weeks i.e 4.5 months.

Equivalency of the gas to the kerosene head-head is ~700 Naira/month for the gas as against 450 Naira/month of Kerosene.
It might appear to be a small difference.
But for a large family size; with increased/ higher frequency of cooking and with modest income/means, the cost implication becomes huge astronomically especially over a given length of time.

So, in truth & reality, the price of gas needs to come down a bit from that high clime of 2800 per 12.5Kg Cylinder for us to start comparing it as being better than Kerosene in cost-effectiveness.

But, like I said initially, there are so many advantages of gas that you might find invaluable & difficult to even put cost/value on.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by msmon(m): 2:37am On Aug 27, 2014
MOBBDEEP: I still don't get why people opine guess as facts!
Seeing a lot of people on this thread claiming gas is cheaper economically at the price of 2800 for 12.5KG cylinder really got my eyes popping wide.
Simply because it's completely false.
Yes, gas is faster, more convenient, obviously ecologically friendlier, does not blacken pots with soots and comes with this 'touchéness'.

But cheaper!?, that is a blatant lie.
Let me illustrate it well.
I do a light cooking once a day early in the morning plus a heavy cooking once a month usually a Saturday.
Initially, I bought 15 litres of Kerosene at 120 Naira/Litre = 1800.
I used this for 4months.
Then I purchased these two 12.5Kg which I filled at Aba (Abia State) at 3200 per 12.5Kg cylinder.
Each cylinder lasted an average of 18 weeks i.e 4.5 months.

Equivalency of the gas to the kerosene head-head is ~700 Naira/month for the gas as against 450 Naira/month of Kerosene.
It might appear to be a small difference.
But for a large family size; with increased/ higher frequency of cooking and with modest income/means, the cost implication becomes huge astronomically especially over a given length of time.

So, in truth & reality, the price of gas needs to come down a bit from that high clime of 2800 per 12.5Kg Cylinder for us to start comparing it as being better than Kerosene in cost-effectiveness.

But, like I said initially, there are so many advantages of gas that you might find invaluable & difficult to even put cost/value on.

Whaoo! What an analyses, I totally agree with you but one may just assume to pay for the comfort cooking with gas offers as well as the medical benefit some1 pointed out earlier on this thread.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by soulglo: 2:43am On Aug 27, 2014
berem: Are you serious? I know there are smaller cylinders. Gas stoves are expensive though. the least price is about 10k. Is Lagos state government going to do something about it for those who will not like camp gas?


They will also buy you a kitchen cheesy grin grin I'm glad you found one close by. If I lived in Lagos I'd hate to drive too
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by TonySpike: 4:33am On Aug 27, 2014
MOBBDEEP: I still don't get why people opine guess as facts!
Seeing a lot of people on this thread claiming gas is cheaper economically at the price of 2800 for 12.5KG cylinder really got my eyes popping wide.
Simply because it's completely false.
Yes, gas is faster, more convenient, obviously ecologically friendlier, does not blacken pots with soots and comes with this 'touchéness'.

But cheaper!?, that is a blatant lie.
Let me illustrate it well.
I do a light cooking once a day early in the morning plus a heavy cooking once a month usually a Saturday.
Initially, I bought 15 litres of Kerosene at 120 Naira/Litre = 1800.
I used this for 4months.
Then I purchased these two 12.5Kg which I filled at Aba (Abia State) at 3200 per 12.5Kg cylinder.
Each cylinder lasted an average of 18 weeks i.e 4.5 months.

Equivalency of the gas to the kerosene head-head is ~700 Naira/month for the gas as against 450 Naira/month of Kerosene.
It might appear to be a small difference.
But for a large family size; with increased/ higher frequency of cooking and with modest income/means, the cost implication becomes huge astronomically especially over a given length of time.

So, in truth & reality, the price of gas needs to come down a bit from that high clime of 2800 per 12.5Kg Cylinder for us to start comparing it as being better than Kerosene in cost-effectiveness.

But, like I said initially, there are so many advantages of gas that you might find invaluable & difficult to even put cost/value on.

Your analysis is quite explanatory though but there are some variables you left out. For example, are you sure your cylinders weren't half filled? How many burners does
your gas cooker have? What is your average cooking time on both platforms? Let us know these indices, then we can conclude. It might be important to know that Kerosene is actually a variant of jet fuel and it burns very fast. I find it interesting to know that 18 litres of Kerosene can last for 4 months for an average family. I'll research further on this. ..

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by eromspete(m): 6:48am On Aug 27, 2014
Nice idea but many Nigerian houses aint safe to use gas cylinders. Many peeps dont know the safety measures to employ when using gas cooking equipment. Gas cylinders are supposed to be kept outside the house but i know for sure many use gas cylinders inside the building which is an Explosion Hazard if something goes wrong... Sensitize people first before handing them gas cylinders.

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Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by mbhs139(m): 7:53am On Aug 27, 2014
berem: you're right! I didn't know Kerosene was far more expensive than gas. Sorry for the misconception.

You are welcome bro/sis. The truth is Kerosine is actually more expensive than LPG, and it is more expensive when its scarcity hits town.
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by free2ryhme: 8:47am On Aug 27, 2014
laudate:

All those families need to do, is buy the size of gas cylinder they can afford. From 3 kg to 6 kg, there is a wide variety for everyone. Refilling the 6 kg, costs between =N=1,200 and =N=1,800 in Lagos. To refill the 3kg, is even cheaper... undecided

Some of those families that complain that they can't afford gas need to be educated on its benefits and hazards. If you visit such homes, they probably also have a TV set, a refrigerator and other electronic gadgets in their small one-room apartment or face-me-I-face you block. If they can spend money to acquire all those gadgets, they can certainly spend a few extra quid on a good 6kg gas burner.

It is not compulsory to buy a 12.5kg cylinder. The only thing with the smaller cylinders, is that you have to go out more often to refill them, if you are a heavy user.

U guys keep missing the point anyone can sell kerosene but not gas. We are talking about accessibility here. I can get kerosene to buy at wee hours becos iya sikira will be willing to sell but BCT gas can only sell during working hours
Re: Eko Gas Scheme: Lagos Tasks Residents On Use Of Cooking Gas by fujirice: 10:10am On Aug 27, 2014
emiye: Except you are cooking for the whole of your local government, the 12.5kg cylinder should at worst last 1.5 months.
My 3kg lasts for a month for me less to talk about the 12.5kg? That one na 6months e go last for me be that. grin wink

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