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House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by AmakaOne(f): 2:01pm On Aug 12, 2008
Yinka Shokunbi And Rafiu Ajakaye, Lagos

Hundreds of homosexuals from across West Africa and Europe are expected to gather in Lagos for a two-day celebration commemorating the second anniversary of the House of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church next month.

The Church was founded by Reverend Roland Jide Macaulay a trained Lawyer and Theologian on September 2, 2006. It is an offshoot of the Universal Fellowship of the Metropolitan Community Churches (UFMCC), which was established in the 1960s for homosexuals around the world.

Participants, referred to as "Friends of the Church" are expected to come from Cameroon, Ghana and the United Kingdom.

Speaking with Saturday Independent, Macaulay described the ministry as "a calling by God with a mission and vision to transform heart, life and history and especially, to help people reconcile their sexuality and spirituality".

The theme of the celebration is: Would Jesus Discriminate?

Said Macaulay: "This is a question that has been begging for answer for several decades and it is part of our denominational campaign to bring people together to examine this topic once again, searching the scriptures for the answers."

He said the convention is not an exclusive gathering and everyone interested in knowing the truth about the position of the Scriptures is welcomed to attend the event.

Already, fliers and posters announcing the events are being distributed around Lagos.

The two-day programme will feature a Special Vigil Night of Gospel Praise on September 6 starting from 9p.m. till dawn, while on Sunday September 7 the congregation will hold a devotional worship and celebration for surviving two years as a ministry.

According to Macaulay: "The two-day event is a straight-forward church programme, which should not be construed by anyone to be an unusual gathering as we are out to enlighten Nigerians that God sees your inside and welcomes you as you are and would not throw you away as people often do".

Ministers from other countries would speak, while the House of Rainbow Anniversary Choir will lead other guest artistes to render music, dance steps and solo performances.

Several Christian leaders are known to have shown disdain for same-sex relationships and condemned it in its entirety.

The Church of Nigerian Anglican Communion recently severed its relationship with the See of Canterbury over the issue after it approved the consecration of gay marriages in the United States of America.

In a recent interview with Saturday Independent Director of Social Communication, Lagos Catholic Archdiocese, Monsignor Gabriel Osu declared of same-sex liaisons: "It is as a result of wrong values; people have lost touch with God, therefore they do not believe in God any longer.

"As you already know, these set of people were condemned in the Bible, therefore why should anybody in his right senses indulge or encourage such an unholy act?"

The programme also came under attacks on Thursday, with Islamic scholars denouncing it as "totally anti-nature and destructive" but saying a gay vigil in Lagos is subject to Police authorities, which would determine the legality or otherwise of it.

National Missioner of the Ansar-Ud-Deen Islamic Society of Nigeria, Abdurrahman Ahmad, insisted in a telephone interview that homosexuality remains a crime under the Constitution but said people reserve their right of association, including holding any meeting.

He added, however, that the faith community - as well as people of good conscience - would not fold its arm while the society's moral firmament is threatened through immoral activities. "My position is very clear: Homosexuality is condemned by Islam as very unnatural, and it (also) remains a crime under the law of this country. Sodomy is a crime under Nigeria's law, and the gay lobby will not succeed in stampeding the sane community. If the West has lost its conscience and humanity, we are still human beings here, and our good conscience is still very much alive," Ahmad said in a reaction to the planned gay vigil.

"As far as I am concerned (the gays) have freedom of association, they can hold a vigil and they can even decide on perpetual fasting if they so choose. They are entitled to all that for so long they do not attempt to impose upon us their depravity. And of course the law enforcement agencies are the ones to determine whether they have a right under the Constitution to import and popularise sodomy.

"In fact, they will have the faith community, Muslims and Christians, and people of good conscience to contend with."

Lagos Coordinator the Conference of Islamic Organisations (CIO), Abdullahi Shuaib, said the right of the society to guard its chastity and human existence supersedes any individual's claim to human rights of gays, because the latter are wont to hide under fundamental human rights.

His words: "This culture is alien to us in Nigeria, whether as Muslims or Christians or as traditionalists. We have a culture of modesty. We have a culture of humility, because this act of homosexuality is something unpopular among the populace. It is regarded as a taboo, because it is against the nature of man himself. And anything against the nature is unholy.

The community has a duty to promote and propagate virtues that will enhance and sustain human existence. It has never been recorded in history that man begets man or vice versa, so one wouldn't know their legacy that will not only destroy what binds human race together but will also promote vices in the society that could lead to collective destruction."

It truly is a new day dawning in Nigeria.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by ifyalways(f): 5:34pm On Aug 12, 2008
shuoo shocked shocked shocked dis ppl don grow to this extent?I used to see dem then as a vapour that wud soon dry up shocked shocked
hmmmn lipsrsealed I pray God proves himself to them.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by huxley(m): 6:08pm On Aug 12, 2008
ifyalways:

shuoo shocked shocked shocked this people don grow to this extent?I used to see them then as a vapour that would soon dry up shocked shocked
hmmmn lipsrsealed I pray God proves himself to them.

Nothing fails like prayers. Save your for a more an occasion even less worthy of prayers
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by mazaje(m): 7:38pm On Aug 12, 2008
All you who are morally upright should go and kill them all. demented and misguided generation.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by tpia: 7:51pm On Aug 12, 2008
they are just looking for more converts, thats all. Who doesnt like money at the end of the day.

Soon now there'll be a church for people who have sex with animals, with the same logo as this one- what would Jesus do.

na everybody dey form church these days.


I hope young boys are safe in that church sha.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by nossycheek(f): 2:06pm On Aug 14, 2008
@tpia

How young boys go dey safe? No be dem carry their legs go there?
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by dudubobo1: 4:19pm On Aug 14, 2008
All these rubbish sef. Soon westerner will realise that it is also natural to be a paedophile and they should be accepted. . . then we go get church of paedophiles.

God is a long suffering God
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Frizy(m): 4:56pm On Aug 14, 2008
I will advise Christians to avoid this "Rainbow movement" from establishing their church elsewhere, and also tell them it aint christianity. No sentiments
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by MrCrackles(m): 4:58pm On Aug 14, 2008
chei, HOMO'S?! shocked u mean buttfuckers are coming out en-masse in Nigeria?!
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 12:56am On Aug 15, 2008
if the government doesnt raid and flog all of them and arrest them then ill know they are toothless bulldogs,we as a nation dont support it so they should go hold their devilish revival in another country mentally demented psycho cases

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Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Tasma: 1:24am On Aug 15, 2008
Assuming homosexuals choose to be homosexual one may have cause to question the "naturalness" of their way of life. However most are naturally attracted to the same sex and can argue that God made them that way. Why then would other "straight" people feel cause to question them. Also the fact that a man or woman may not have sex with members of the same sex does not make them straight. There are probably some amongst the people posting vitriolic replies here that may have closet feelings for the same sex and hide the feelings due to the inappropriateness of the life style in Nigeria. Lastly the comment about young boys is funny because it must assume homosexuality = male paedophilia. I wonder how that came about.

"buttfuckers?" tut tut (shakes head in disbelief)
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by tpia: 1:38am On Aug 15, 2008
Tasma:

Assuming homosexuals choose to be homosexual one may have cause to question the "naturalness" of their way of life. However most are naturally attracted to the same sex and can argue that God made them that way. Why then would other "straight" people feel cause to question them. Also the fact that a man or woman may not have sex with members of the same sex does not make them straight. There are probably some amongst the people posting vitriolic replies here that may have closet feelings for the same sex and hide the feelings due to the inappropriateness of the life style in Nigeria. Lastly the comment about young boys is funny because it must assume homosexuality = male paedophilia. I wonder how that came about.

"buttfuckers?" tut tut (shakes head in disbelief)


Kindly state the reason for your post?

If you feel its ok for young boys to attend that church, then take your young male relatives there.

Your fishing for closet homosexuals on this thread has nothing to do with the topic. 

Making a conscious decision not to give in to sexual urges is not a crime like you and others like you try to make it out to be.

There are plenty of heterosexuals who decide not  to have sex for whatever reason. Its a personal decison, and in no way your business, just like you consider homosexuality nobody's business but the homosexuals' own.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by dudubobo1: 10:02am On Aug 15, 2008
Tasma:

Assuming homosexuals choose to be homosexual one may have cause to question the "naturalness" of their way of life. However most are naturally attracted to the same sex and can argue that God made them that way. Why then would other "straight" people feel cause to question them. Also the fact that a man or woman may not have sex with members of the same sex does not make them straight. There are probably some amongst the people posting vitriolic replies here that may have closet feelings for the same sex and hide the feelings due to the inappropriateness of the life style in Nigeria. Lastly the comment about young boys is funny because it must assume homosexuality = male paedophilia. I wonder how that came about.

"buttfuckers?" tut tut (shakes head in disbelief)

@Tlasma
so if paedophiles as say they are born that way, they should be allowed to form their own paedophilic churches?

arrant nonsense, my friend

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Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by MrCrackles(m): 10:06am On Aug 15, 2008
I tire for all this idiotic MUNGOS supporting gay people and claiming they were born like that!God knows best
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 11:23am On Aug 15, 2008
Tasma:

Assuming homosexuals choose to be homosexual one may have cause to question the "naturalness" of their way of life. However most are naturally attracted to the same sex and can argue that God made them that way. Why then would other "straight" people feel cause to question them. Also the fact that a man or woman may not have sex with members of the same sex does not make them straight. There are probably some amongst the people posting vitriolic replies here that may have closet feelings for the same sex and hide the feelings due to the inappropriateness of the life style in Nigeria. Lastly the comment about young boys is funny because it must assume homosexuality = male paedophilia. I wonder how that came about.

"buttfuckers?" tut tut (shakes head in disbelief)
following your surmission,guess if ppl practicing bestiality,incest e.t.c argue that GOD MADE THEM THAT WAY guess we should allow them then,right?same as paedophiles, after all GOD made them that way and they cant help who they fall in love with,
i dont doubt that there may be ppl on here who have homosexual tendencies but that is to be expected on a public forum,there will be gays,armed robbers,students,pastors,mental patients e.t.c that doesnt change anything

the connection between being gay and paedophilia is that
1.once upon a time gay ppl used to be viewed like society viewed paedophiles, so we r saying its only a matter of time untill its accepted same as being gay is thats the purpose of my first paragraph
2.they are both practiced by mentally imbalanced ppl
3.they are both sexual vices

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Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Tasma: 1:05pm On Aug 15, 2008
What makes a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex a crime like paedophilia, murder, thievery etc? Paedophilia is crime because it involves intercourse with underage persons i.e. one of the persons involved in the relationship can’t be deemed capable of making mature decisions. True a person might have a “natural” tendency towards antisocial activities like violence, child abuse for instance. Thus we have laws to curb people from such activities with penalties of imprisonment and other sorts of punishment. The key word here is antisocial activity. Again I repeat how does a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex translate to antisocial behaviour? Would it be better if a homosexual pretends to be straight and lives an unfulfilling life with a heterosexual partner? Also again why does the image of homosexuality seem to be sexual intercourse between a man and an underage boy, is it not homosexuality if two females are in a relationship or funnier still if you have same sex relationships with no sexual intercourse involved?

Truely one may argue that homosexuality is not a commonplace as heterosexuality but if the practice is not detrimental to society what's the point in dragging it down.

Brash!:

I tire for all this idiots MUNGOS supporting gay people and claiming they were born like that!God knows best

Mr. Brash you need to remember that this is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions. If you can't be civil in your replies you may simply choose not to comment at all. It's quite ironical that you manage to use the words idiots, Mungos and God in the same sentence.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 1:43pm On Aug 15, 2008
@tasma
like i said the homosexuality is a sexual vice which is wrong morally, there are a lot of things consenting adults get up to which isnt legal or of sensible reasoning, the fact that a german man of sound mind allows someone to slit his throat and then proceed to cut him up in pieces and fry his body parts does that make it perfectly ok according to what you r saying?
the thing is that people are quick to label what should ordinarily be a sexual vice,leud act e.t.c
the fact of the matter is that people in homosexual relationships,closet homosexuals e.t.c have psychological issues and should be checked in a psychiatric hospital,the fact that it is widely accepted doesnt change the fact, some people accept incest and practice it within full view of the law but does that make it right?
personally im not singling a particular one out,both homosexuality,lesbianism,paedophilia are vices which i believe are totally wrong, so the fact that homosexuality is being rationalised doesnt make it right because paedophiles have been known to put up convincing arguments,same as incest couples, i keep on linking them together because i see paedophilia,incest e.t.c all going the same way homosexualism was going in the 1960s.70s,
two females can live together and do stuffs together without being in a relationship so its no excuse,same as males
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by dudubobo1: 2:10pm On Aug 15, 2008
Tasma:

What makes a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex a crime like paedophilia, murder, thievery etc? Paedophilia is crime because it involves intercourse with underage persons i.e. one of the persons involved in the relationship can’t be deemed capable of making mature decisions. True a person might have a “natural” tendency towards antisocial activities like violence, child abuse for instance. Thus we have laws to curb people from such activities with penalties of imprisonment and other sorts of punishment. The key word here is antisocial activity. Again I repeat how does a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex translate to antisocial behaviour? Would it be better if a homosexual pretends to be straight and lives an unfulfilling life with a heterosexual partner? Also again why does the image of homosexuality seem to be sexual intercourse between a man and an underage boy, is it not homosexuality if two females are in a relationship or funnier still if you have same sex relationships with no sexual intercourse involved?

Truely one may argue that homosexuality is not a commonplace as heterosexuality but if the practice is not detrimental to society what's the point in dragging it down.


We should also have laws with penalties of imprisonment etc to curtail the activities and spread of sodomy.
The practice is detrimental to society because it is unnatural and it works directly against procreation
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Nobody: 2:17pm On Aug 15, 2008
mazaje:

All you who are morally upright should go and kill them all. demented and misguided generation.

You inclusive. kiss
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by tpia: 2:41pm On Aug 15, 2008
Tasma:

What makes a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex a crime like paedophilia, murder, thievery etc? Paedophilia is crime because it involves intercourse with underage persons i.e. one of the persons involved in the relationship can’t be deemed capable of making mature decisions.


If you're out to promote the gay lifestyle, there are plenty of threads discussing that in the sexuality and jokes section.

This particular topic is about a gay church. There's nothing you're saying here which hasnt been said before many times over.






Tasma:

True a person might have a “natural” tendency towards antisocial activities like violence, child abuse for instance. Thus we have laws to curb people from such activities with penalties of imprisonment and other sorts of punishment. The key word here is antisocial activity. Again I repeat how does a consensual relationship between two adults of the same sex translate to antisocial behaviour?


once again, thats not what the thread is about. Check the sexuality section to see others saying exactly the same thing as you.



this article describes what was also a consensual relationship. Do you support their right to act that way:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/01/30/germany.cannibal/index.html










Tasma:

[Also again why does the image of homosexuality seem to be sexual intercourse between a man and an underage boy


is this a trick question.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by ow11(m): 3:33pm On Aug 15, 2008
Why are gay people assumed to be rapists and paedophiles?

If they want to have their church, good for them at least they won't be striving to have a Bishop in a 'straight' church. I can't see how gay people can function in mainstream churches where homosexuality is considered a sin ( punishable by death in Nigeria).

I just feel sorry for them because they are fighting for rights in a country where there is high level intolerance for anything different. Homophobic Nigerians will just kill them for no reason.

I just advise them to continue their church thing in secret till the climate is favourable enough for them to come out. I just feel sorry for them.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 4:00pm On Aug 15, 2008
no one is saying nigerians shouldnt practice but they should do it outside our country, or they can use a psychiatric hospital e.g yaba left , they can all apply for assylum,im sure gay friendly countries like uk,us,europe will give them, its simple we dont want it, when the missionaries came to africa and told us african tradition was evil,killing twins was evil e.t.c there was no fight or furore about it,so whats the problem if we think being gay is evil

gay people are not assumed to be gays and rapists but they are all in the same club,i personally have no time to start dissecting them into diffrent compartments they are all in need of psychiatric treatment
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by ow11(m): 4:28pm On Aug 15, 2008
@luca

You didn't just approve the practice of murdering innocent twins ! did you?

Yea our opinion on veiwing gayness as evil is personal and should remain thus but remember these are adults and are no danger to the society as they are. It is the rapists and paedophiles amongst them just like there also exist heterosexual ones that should be locked up. Painting all gay people with the same brush as rapists and paedophiles is just the same as calling all Nigerians fraudsters and thieves. You of all people should be smart enough to not commit that faux pas.

If you can't stand them, think of the white people who sincerely believe black people are sub humans and can't stand them but have been forced by legislation to compromise their beliefs and sit in the same bus as us. You must not like gay people but you can learn to accept them because that is the world we live in today.

I still don't believe we can be in the same church with gay people because of differing beliefs. Since they believe God accepts them the way they are then thats fine. Let God deal with them in His own way. We have a duty not to be intolerant or hate filled just because we think someone is sinning.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by tpia: 5:11pm On Aug 15, 2008
ow11:

@luca

You didn't just approve the practice of murdering innocent twins ! did you?

Yea our opinion on veiwing gayness as evil is personal and should remain thus but remember these are adults and are no danger to the society as they are. It is the rapists and paedophiles amongst them just like there also exist heterosexual ones that should be locked up. Painting all gay people with the same brush as rapists and paedophiles is just the same as calling all Nigerians fraudsters and thieves. You of all people should be smart enough to not commit that faux pas.

If you can't stand them, think of the white people who sincerely believe black people are sub humans and can't stand them but have been forced by legislation to compromise their beliefs and sit in the same bus as us. You must not like gay people but you can learn to accept them because that is the world we live in today.

I still don't believe we can be in the same church with gay people because of differing beliefs. Since they believe God accepts them the way they are then thats fine. Let God deal with them in His own way. We have a duty not to be intolerant or hate filled just because we think someone is sinning.




all this one na long story.

Would you take your young male child to that church?
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by komekn(m): 5:26pm On Aug 15, 2008
Ow 11, Lucabrisi did not proffer an opinion but an expression of the heart and spirit of God it may not be the exact diction but the spirit is the same. I truly feel sorry for you. You are enticed and deceived by twisted academic theology. As for acceptance it is SIN for me to accept and NO that is not the world we live in today, maybe your world but definitely, certainly and surely not mine or indeed God’s.

In the kingdom of God there is no in between or luke-warmness there is just the wicked and the righteous, you are either on the Lords side or the devils side. SO WHICH SIDE YOU DEH ?

Even if I can’t appeal to your spirit I will appeal to your intellect, this adopted lifestyle is an ABOMINATION to God have no doubt.

The following scriptures clarifies the matter NUFF SAID!!!

(The Amplified) Romans 1:
25 Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen (so be it).
26 For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one,
27 And the men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze (burning out, consumed) with lust for one another--men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing and going astray, which was [their] fitting retribution.
28 And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome.

(The Message) Romans 1:
24-25, So God said, in effect, "If that's what you want, that's what you get." It wasn't long before they were living in a pigpen, smeared with filth, filthy inside and out. And all this because they traded the true God for a fake god, and worshiped the god they made instead of the God who made them—the God we bless, the God who blesses us. Oh, yes!
26-27, Worse followed. Refusing to know God, they soon didn't know how to be human either—women didn't know how to be women, men didn't know how to be men. Sexually confused, they abused and defiled one another, women with women, men with men—all lust, no love. And then they paid for it, oh, how they paid for it—emptied of God and love, godless and loveless wretches.

cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 7:17pm On Aug 15, 2008
ow11:

@luca

You didn't just approve the practice of murdering innocent twins ! did you?

Yea our opinion on veiwing gayness as evil is personal and should remain thus but remember these are adults and are no danger to the society as they are. It is the rapists and paedophiles amongst them just like there also exist heterosexual ones that should be locked up. Painting all gay people with the same brush as rapists and paedophiles is just the same as calling all Nigerians fraudsters and thieves. You of all people should be smart enough to not commit that faux pas.




of course i dont approve of murdering twins,btw the practice of murdering twins was only in particular parts of nigeria not a general thing,yoruba,ibo,hausa dont murder twins as far as i know its only in calabar parts that it was deemed evil, the point here is that if the white missionaries can can set the boundaries of what is right and wrong,what is evil and good without any complaints from us, why are they complaining now that we are rejecting something that is abviously alien to us and evil in our sights right from the beginning of time as far as we can remember,i beg to dissagree with you,they are dangers to the society because of their negative influence to impressionable youngsters, remember when we keep hammering on about how normal something evil is some ppl are bound to believe especially if foreign aid is being given to these so called gay christian groups
ow11:

@luca



If you can't stand them, think of the white people who sincerely believe black people are sub humans and can't stand them but have been forced by legislation to compromise their beliefs and sit in the same bus as us. You must not like gay people but you can learn to accept them because that is the world we live in today.




yes that is a racial thing which has no excuse,as we are all agreed that theres no diffrence in black and white apart from skin pigments, some will even argue that we r better than white ppl,the fact here is that gays,lesbians,paedophiles e.t.c all have a psychiatric illness and its even worse for them because they believe they r normal,you think they are i believe they are not besides the nigerian constitution forbids the gay lesbian thing so what are we talking about here??
ow11:

@luca





I still don't believe we can be in the same church with gay people because of differing beliefs. Since they believe God accepts them the way they are then thats fine. Let God deal with them in His own way. We have a duty not to be intolerant or hate filled just because we think someone is sinning.


of course we can be in the same church with gays because our religion and culture is an all encompassing one,what we disagree with and find totally absurd is the fact that some people will impose their ways on us by having us support and install gay and lesbian church heads,GOD accepts them the way he acccepts armed robbers,paedophiles,serial killers e.t.c he doesnt accept them being church heads or leading his holy church,the fact that judgement is the lords doesnt stop us from condemning what is evil,and all we are intollerant of is something evil,and we refuse to let any western world or nation rationalise it
@komekn
you get my point,exactly what i meant
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Hardballer(m): 7:56pm On Aug 15, 2008
house of rainbow . . . thats a real fruity name . . lol
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by ow11(m): 8:35pm On Aug 15, 2008
@tpia

I  don't believe gayness is gene-related. I believe people actually decide to be gay either by association or simply 'crazy'. Now I wouldn't let my son go there because he can be influenced by them and choose to do wrong. It is same way i won't let my child go to

Just because I don't believe violence is the answer to gayness. Just tolerate them.

@komken
If you believe tolerating them is wrong.Why don't you go gung-ho and rid the society of whores which the last time i checked is a sexual sin. I still bellieve we should just say our opinion about things and leave it at that.

@luca

I agree with your notion of influence but threatening them only makes them out to be victims and would make inquisitive ones wonder what the fuss is the gay thing. Remember we tolerate corruption in Nigeria and people like you still decide to be christians and stay away from it ( I suppose! grin). I would rather ignore them because their threat to society is a lot lower than robbery, runs and public looting.

But I still believe they should separate because they actually believe the Bible doesn't condemn their act ( which I find shocking). So they should go and leave us alone.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 11:48pm On Aug 15, 2008
ow11:




@luca

I agree with your notion of influence but threatening them only makes them out to be victims and would make inquisitive ones wonder what the fuss is the gay thing. Remember we tolerate corruption in Nigeria and people like you still decide to be christians and stay away from it ( I suppose! grin). I would rather ignore them because their threat to society is a lot lower than robbery, runs and public looting.

But I still believe they should separate because they actually believe the Bible doesn't condemn their act ( which I find shocking). So they should go and leave us alone.

thank you ,you have said it all, case closed and yes im definitely stayn away from it bcause im proudly homophobic like most africans
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Queenisha: 12:58am On Aug 16, 2008
In as much as I abhore homesexuality and feel nauseated by the thought of a man incubating his fellow man, I would advise that people let them be.
We haven't killed off all our ashewos in Iyana Ipaja and college campuses all around Nigeria
have we?
People shouldn't harass or attack them.
In the last days,immorality shall abound.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by Tasma: 9:35pm On Aug 16, 2008
Everything we are talking about here has to do with what is deemed right or wrong. How does society decide certain behaviour is right or wrong? First off, lets talk about what is “natural”. Watch the action of innocent little kids, you notice if they want something they want to take it immediately regardless of if it belongs to another person or not. They are very self involved, human beings naturally are. So as parents we teach our kids social values by correcting such self involved behaviour. Society has seen that if everyone cares only for themselves we can’t live together peacefully. Another example, one may argue that man is naturally polygamous; left alone most men will seek multiple partners. Society puts restraints on this to encourage peace in marital homes. This even changes from society to society. Some societies allow multiple wives while others insist on monogamy. Monogamy that is widely practiced in Nigeria today is a western culture, it’s not African but we have adopted it all the same. I don’t see anyone complaining about that Western culture.

So basically societies base their laws on empirical knowledge of what seems to work for them, what makes survival of the community as a whole conducive. These laws obviously will differ in cultures in different parts of the world.

The reason why homosexuality is largely frowned upon in many societies is because it does not aid procreation. It’s basically as simple as that. Now procreation is not a major impediment to the survival of most developed nations, in fact overpopulation is a problem in many countries. Thus the purpose of relationships has changed largely from procreation to companionship and happiness. Consequently there may be adults that prefer to be in same sex relationships because they find such relationships more fulfilling. I don’t think those people should be faulted.

Now the larger issue here that I think is the very process of deciding what is right or wrong in Nigeria. We need to come to the point where we make such decisions with an awareness of what exactly we are doing. It makes little sense to base our laws and values fully on Biblical tenets because such tenets applied better to the ancient Jews than the modern day Nigerian. There are certainly many laws in the old testaments – for instance laws concerning treatment of slaves and women – that Jews in the New Testament times would not have followed. A society needs to base its values and morals with knowledge and thought instead of just unconsciously basing such values on vague mores we have been indoctrinated with from birth.

Lastly it’s a big myth that there were never homosexuals in Nigeria, there have always been persons that are happier with same sex relationships. The prevailing culture in Nigeria has simply not allowed them to express themselves, and like I said before the fact that they were not sleeping with same sex partners does not change the fact that they are homosexuals all the same.

Just my thoughts again, cheers.
Re: House Of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church-homosexuals Plan Vigil In Lagos by lucabrasi(m): 10:55pm On Aug 16, 2008
i totally disagree with you on that,fair enough we all teach kids the value of right and wrong but that has to do with putting them on the straight and narrow, preparing them for the responsibilities and challenges to come,i totally disagree again that left with a free choice nigerian men will choose to marry multiple wives, its not about having acess to varieties but the problems and challenges,arguments,fights e.t.c you ll get so men actually wont go for a polygamous family even if given a free choice.

the reason why homosexual relationship is frowned upon is not because it doesnt aid procreation,after all nuns and reverend fathers dont procreate but they are revered and especially in the south eastern part of nigeria parents force their children to become clergy men and nuns,nigerians abhoring homosexuality is basically hinged on the bible or quran which is our major believe and also our high moral values,
we know that some old testament laws are not applicable,and they have been reffered to in the new testament,the fact that GOD destroyed a whole city of sodom and gomorah mainly because of homosexuality e.t.c speaks volumes,

of course there are and have always been gays in nigeria,same as there have always been armed robbers,paedophiles e.t.c no one is arguing that its a moot point,the fact here is that its totally wrong and not natural or normal

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