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| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 4:05pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
CANTICLES: How assuming and condescending can one get! A simple question was asked, you refuse to answer only to counter with disdain comments about KJV as a whole. I am not arguing trinity with you, all I want to expose you to is the person of Christ. May be if we know why Christ came, why he had to leave and his role as the king forever, we will understand his divinity beyond him just being a man. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 6:49pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
sonmvayina: Your great grand father...Moses. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 7:59pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
shdemidemi: You should focus on whose will it is for him to come, to leave and to be king forever. You should focus on knowing his God, the One that subjected all things to him, the only One he is subject to, the One who it pleases to fill him with His fullness, the One that gave him authority to exercise. His head, his God. You cannot know the Christ (the Anointed) when you don't know the Anointer. This means everlasting life, the knowledge of the only True God and of Christ whom He sent. Those telling you that you can't know God or even understand what was written, wants that knowledge to elude you. I wanted to ask someone question on Phil 2:5-11 to expose the error in his EQUALITY believe, but the spirit of not gaining knowledge brought the everything to an end with immediately effect.   I wasn't going to teach but just want to ask questions.That you have strong faith on something does not make it true. 2 Likes |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 12:17am On Oct 11, 2014 |
^^^ my question.. Why did Jesus Christ come into this world? |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 2:20am On Oct 11, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Deut 18:15-19 15 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die.’ 17 “And the Lord said to me: ‘What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. Col 1:19-20 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. He came to do the will of God, the Father. To speak all that God commanded him(Word of God), to reconcile us to God(mediator), etc. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Nobody: 5:18am On Oct 11, 2014 |
shdemidemi:He came to give eternal life to all who believe in Him. He came to save us from our sins.He came to destroy thee works of the devil. He is the ONLY MEDIATOR between God and man. Facts: Without controversy Great is the mystery of godliness; God was MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. (1 tim 3:16. The Son of God has come........He is the TRUE GOD AND ETERNAL LIFE.( 1 Jn 5:20). Many deceivers who do not acknowledge Him( God) as coming IN THE FLESH are antichrist( 2 Jn1:7,1 Jn 4:3). 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Nobody: 5:37am On Oct 11, 2014 |
shdemidemi:My brother, i tire for these guys o. They just love spaming threads with their doctrines. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 7:19am On Oct 11, 2014 |
Boomark: I completely agree that being a prophet among many other hireling roles to the nation of Israel was administered to Him. Saying that, Is this all you think He came into this world to do or is there a few more that could only be achieved but by a righteous God? |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 8:01am On Oct 11, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Bro do you want me to list All he came to do or did? If there is any that is not the will of the Father, then point it out. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 8:19pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
Boomark: List the things you know he came to do if you really want to know who he is. By the time you sincerely list some of those things, you will gradually realize it takes only God to achieve such task. None of the patriarchs nor prophet could achieve the fit. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by Boomark(m): 9:16pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
shdemidemi: Why not list all those things that made you believe what you believe. I may not be reasoning in your direction. List all and i will summarize it for you in one sentence or two. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by udatso: 10:08pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
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| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PenSniper: 10:21pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
dein77: Mat the great Triune God bless you iJn. Let the academic, terrestial and self-appointed "pastors" of this world continue to wallow in their abject ignorance of the spiritual truths of the Word of God. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PenSniper: 10:35pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
jnrbayano: Jesus the Christ. In writing their trash, terrestial and self-appointed pastors will cleverly overlook that and many such references in the scriptures. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PenSniper: 10:36pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
jnrbayano: Jesus the Christ. In writing their trash, terrestial and self-appointed pastors will cleverly overlook that and many such references in the scriptures. Please leave them to their delusions. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 10:46pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
jnrbayano:.... Dear Brother, this verse says Nothing about trinity , it only refer To Jesus as "Mighty God" but not ALMIGHTY GOD !!! WOW ..Here we go, do u even know that humans are called 'gods' ? Its just a title bestowed on us , Moses was called " God" too in exodus 7:1 ? ,u should av add moses to the queue to make it Quaternity doctrine na, Lolz! This are all title given by God himself to his creations, hop u know God cant die (habakuk 1:12), hope u know Jesus was d first creation by God ( rev 3:14, prov 8:22, colosian 1:15)?? Dats to tell u it was a title given to our lord Jesus Christ..yet u exclude a basic truth for christians,worship the person Christ called the " ONLY TRUE GOD " john 17:3, psal 83:18!! 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PenSniper: 10:55pm On Oct 11, 2014 |
Femi Aribisala, and many self-appointed pastors like him are ACADEMIC rather than SPIRITUAL pastors. People who cannot and do not, with their defective mundane wisdom, understand man who they see claim to understand an unseen spiritual God who is spirit. I would have proven the doctrine of the Trinity to him but prefer to let him continue wallowing in his abject ignorance. Suffice it to tell him that even he was created as a trinity. So it is simply the case of someone denying a truth of himself. Heaven is the ONLY school for the WORD of God and the Holy Spirit is the Teacher. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 6:03am On Oct 12, 2014 |
CANTICLES: Exodus 7:1 (NKJV) So the Lord said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. KJV And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. GNV The Lord said, “I am going to make you like God to the king, and your brother Aaron will speak to him as your prophet. Which version called Moses God? Again here is Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. My brother, no other being bears these names except God himself. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God. Here, St Thomas heed to Isaiah 9:6. He blatantly called Jesus My Lord and my God. I thought Jesus would have rebuked him for blasphemy, calling him his Lord and his God alas, he didn't. The holy spirit who inspired Isaiah, also inspired Thomas and that same holy spirit will inspire you too only if you open up to him. Jesus is God! Remain blessed brother. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by jnrbayano(m): 6:09am On Oct 12, 2014 |
PenSniper: Yes my brother. We can only try. Thank you.  |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PenSniper: 5:34pm On Oct 12, 2014 |
jnrbayano: You are welcome. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 9:54am On Oct 13, 2014 |
I smiled at you pple when i went thru ur posts , i just join my voice with that of the Apostle Paul saying: " I want you to understand that .... the head of a woman is her husband and the head of Christ is God " 1 Corinthians 11:3 ( Clearly, then , Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ) 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 11:23am On Oct 13, 2014 |
CANTICLES: My dear, Paul was not separating God and Christ here but presenting a case for order in the place. He was presenting a case for the place of a husband in relation to his wife. A man and a woman in matrimony are one and equal before God but if order must be observed, one have to be in position of authority while the other take direction. The same was used metaphorically of the authority or direction of God in relation to Christ. A husband and his wife are one, made out of each other as far as God is concerned, just as God and Christ are one. Jesus is the physical image of the invisible God that walked the face of the earth. He is the reincarnated word of God that became flesh to destroy sin in the flesh for the purpose of reconciling mankind to Himself/God. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 2:47pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
shdemidemi:see what religion turn you to, the word "head" is not used for same person or imagine this statement: Bible is d head of scripture , lols open ur heart " the head of christ is" whom? " God (named YHWH, JHVH English JEHOVAH)" 1 Cor 11:3, psalm 83:18!!! But if order must be observed, one have to be in position of authority while the other take direction.yeah, uv nw contradict ur trinity lie, but truly God is in authority while Christ takes direction , Jesus said" I can do nothing of my own initiative .. But the will of he who sent me" joh5:30 was he a liar by sayin som1 sent him ? If no, who sent him? He is the reincarnated word of God that became flesh to destroy sin in the flesh for the purpose of reconciling mankind to Himself/God.Himself ke? !! Not at all, " for there is one God and one mediator Between God and man, a man,Christ jesus,"1tim 2:5 |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 3:38pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
CANTICLES: Did you read to understand my response! Moreover find out what the meaning of YHWH, ELOHIM or JEHOVAH is, it might just open your eyes. The name 'Jehovah saves'/Joshua was given to the baby Isaiah called God in obedience to the command of the angel. Jesus was also referred to as Lord... meaning 'owner'. This title seized to be used for anyone else save for God and christ by believers in scripture. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PastorKun(m): 4:48pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
CANTICLES: Very Succint response, I wonder what kind of spirit is making otherwise sound believers to insist on this trinity heresy, that spirit is definitely not of God. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 6:19pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
PastorKun: Same way I wonder why those who see Jesus as man and nothing else manage to profess this faith. I wonder who they expect to see on the day of God's glory, an invisible image or the visible image! How people fail to discern even with the flurry of information about Jesus' divinity is beyond me. The bible say He is God, some will say 'but not almighty', yet the bible says any God that did not create heaven and earth shall perish. If jesus isn't one and the same with the father, He will perish according to that scripture but I know 'my Lord , and my God' lives forever. I hope you find one more righteous than Jesus, one more Holy, One more perfect, One more faithful. If Jesus has all these qualities, I don't know what other god we seek. Even doubting Thomas confessed him as Lord and God when he saw Christ. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PastorKun(m): 7:57pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
shdemidemi: I thank God that I see Jesus Christ as his only begotten |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by PastorKun(m): 8:07pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
shdemidemi: I thank God that see and accept Jesus as his only begotten son who has the divine attributes of God, so obviously you can't be referring to me in your first paragraph. The rest of what you wrote is just permutations being promoted by those who promote the paganistic trinity heresy without any sound spiritual or biblical backing. I choose to stick to the biblical position of Jesus being the Son of God. And of course being God's son makes him divine. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 8:26pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
PastorKun: He is definitely the son of God. Being the son of God does not mean God gave birth to Him like men do but that He is a physical image of the Invisible God. He is the mighty God and He is the Lord i.e the owner of all. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 10:17pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
PastorKun:.... My Brother, its not from God , I Will Show u the spirit behind that doctrine , come with me to james 2:19 " you believe that there is one God, do you ? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder" !!!! Imagine , even demons acknowledge that God is singularly one but to confuse mankind they invent a triune god , infact satan himself has lived in heaven so he knew Jesus wasnt the SUPREME BEING THAT SIT ON HEAVEN'S THROWN ( Act 7:55,56 " I see the son of man standing at the right hand of God" ), No wonder he tempted him to do What Is Bad !! Do u even know that John 3:16 destroy trinity " God ( JEHOVAH) sent his only begotting son ( Jesus) " Truth Is Clear. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by shdemidemi(m): 9:50am On Oct 14, 2014 |
CANTICLES: Does a triune God interpret to serving three separate gods. All we are saying is if God looks in the mirror, His physical reflection is that image we call Jesus. Even you yourself can be divided into parts although you remain one- the container you refer to as your body isn't the complete you but the physical image we can all see. Unlike God's flesh, your flesh and my flesh becomes useless when the breath that makes us a living soul is withdrawn. You have a mind, you have a soul that cannot be seen nor felt physically but they are definitely there. In other words, we are not practicing anything outside monotheism when we call God 'Elohim or a triune God'. |
| Re: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 10:18am On Oct 14, 2014 |
shdemidemi:yes , i wiill list for u 1.God the father 2. God d son 3rd. God the holyspirit, wow 3 fake heresy All we are saying is if God looks in the mirror, His physical reflection is that image we call Jesus.yes, Jesus is the image of the invisible God - Col1:15, so that real God remains invisible ..... That i so resemble my Dad doesnt mean, i am also my Dad, does it ? Am just my Dad's image Religious heresy! TRUTH: a man is a soul ! Gen 2:7, and soul dies Eze 18:4, ansa dis: Did Jesus Himself Die ? Or its Only his body dat dies ?? lie 1 Like |
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