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Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by mankand(m): 12:44pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
smartigo: Christinity, Islam, Hindu, and all other forms of religion all stole their stories from African spirituality. Islam as a religion is not older than 500 years old, |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Kay17: 12:50pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
mankand: Can you prove that?! What are the elements in the respective religions that are found in African spirituality? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by mankand(m): 1:32pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
Kay17: There are tons of them. I do not know where to start from. To be honest, the first spiritual writing to be written was on stones and it is found in Egypt, in the tomb of Khufu, without these first spiritual writing, there will be no bible, koran, or torah. There is a book titled "Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection" There is a particular chapter that talked and emphasized about African spirituality and how it was all copied, plagiarised into all other religions. Why did you think the pope said that that all religions are true?it is simple, because they were stolen from Africa and Egypt
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Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by mankand(m): 1:34pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
The christians cannot show you the ark of Noah, but i can show you the Nu Ankh, the boat to Khufu which was used to transport Khufu to his celestial fathers during the flooding of the nile river. 1 Like
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Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by mankand(m): 1:35pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
The jews and the israelited cannot show you the ark of covenant, but i can show you the ceramics of Maat
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Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Kay17: 3:03pm On Oct 19, 2014 |
mankand: You still didn't prove anything, you just made a general statement, put up archetypal pictures of mother and child. None of which satisfies an ordinary curiosity. It is natural for a people with the ability to write, to write down their religious adventures. The Chinese, Aztecs, Mayans, all wrote down their religious literature in their own languages. The fact that I write a diary does not mean I plagarised it from you who had an earlier diary. 'There is a book' is neither sufficient proof. 1 Like |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Crocz(m): 8:25am On Oct 20, 2014 |
Scyllapatron: Lolz dude...that's because crucifixion is a hoax!, the greatest lie ever told! 1 Like |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Crocz(m): 8:42am On Oct 20, 2014 |
PastorAIO: Dude, you point is baseless...do you mean, God the creator of a perfect being didn't see it fit to remove the sinful nature of his creation that he decided "prior to" or after creation to sacrifice His only begotten son for the sins of the creation He failed to remove the sinful nature of?...that is VERY logical, don't you think? The more you try to dance your way around the truth, the more you drown in your own confusion...believe it or not, it is an instrument of oppression and a means to an economic end...Oyedepo, TBJ en co my reference, private jet? 1 Like |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by PastorAIO: 11:01am On Oct 20, 2014 |
Crocz: You seem confused. The basis of my points are in the OP at its question. Nothing I said there was baseless. Nothing that you've written actually applies to my post. I think you might be addressing something else entirely. Maybe a gripe you have had with christianity long before you even read my post. Anyway, please, I'd appreciate it if next time you actually read my post and made sure you understood it before you responded to it. Thanks in advance. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 20, 2014 |
smartigo: Can you prove the flying spaghetti monster never existed? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 11:49am On Oct 20, 2014 |
PastorAIO: But seriously pastor If God truly loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,has that solved any problem as we see around us? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by PastorAIO: 2:17pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Dapo777: But seriously Dapo, if you truly love this discussion that you've giving your energy and time to post, has that solved the problem of not actually reading and grasping what I've said. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 2:35pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
PastorAIO: If u say Jesus saved us from the spiritual consequences of our sins and the only way to find out is When we die. Then IT'S A SCAM!!!!! Why should death be the only way to find out If Jesus has fulfilled his purpose? You have been scammed!!!!!!!! If I ask you to give me all ur properties for a seed that would make u get to heaven When swallowed, would u believe me? If not why? It's the same thing Christ did,we can only know after death If he truly saved us SCAM!!!!!! YOU can only know after death If the seed saved u,and If giving out all ur properties wasn't in vain. JESUS IS CLEARLY A SCAM!!"" Thanks for the eye opener. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Kay17: 3:49pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
^^ You need to relax and read PastorAio's post again, because he was laying the two possible meanings Jesus' man saving Gospel is about. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by smartigo: 4:00pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Dapo777:Your statement is out of place. What is your basis for asking? Are we making analogy? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by smartigo: 4:13pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Crocz: To be honest with you, I really don't want to be dragged further into religious argument because it does not produce any fruits. But for people who might be reading this, understand this today: God ways are far beyond your logical reasoning on what or why he chose to do what he did. To answer your misunderstanding of the concept of God not killing our sinful natural. He said,through one man sin came, through one man sin shall be defeated. If you can understand why Adam's sin could affect the whole world,then you would understand my explanation. In conclusion bro, choose whatever rocks your boat. Either to believe in Him or not is your choice which God too respects. 1 Like |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by IBOGIRL1: 4:52pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Jesus isnt saving our world cos he lacks d elements do so, take for instance,jonathan is d president of dis country not jesus and policies he appends to decides d fate of Nigeria as a nation. Yl ur at it,also ask y jesus allowed 200 and somtin little girls to b kidnappd against dia wish to face a life of molestation and degradation dey neva bargained for as merciful and just as we wia told he is? Religion may hav its positive morals but d truth is dat evrytin about religion,including jesus is d product of a human mind at work,an extension of basic human nature and character like pay bad for bad*bad goes to hell* good for good,good goes to heaven. d very day humans shove religion aside and accept dat we are d architects of our doom and rise d better for us. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by PastorAIO: 5:20pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Kay17: Thank you Kay. Though I doubt he'll read it with a calm mind. But if he does, hopefully, I hope he also notes the very last sentence where I said that Jesus in the gospels taught neither of the two possible meanings. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
smartigo:The same reason why you asked If he can prove God never existed. The flying spaghetti monster is the Creator of the universe, can u prove otherwise? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by smartigo: 5:56pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Dapo777: Lol. Okay for your information,the Bible says so. Which proof do u have? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 7:14pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
smartigo: The Bible said the flying sphagetti monster never existed? U didn't get my question. Can u prove that the flying spaghetti monster never existed? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 7:15pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
I actually thought of commenting some stuff here... But with wat I am seeing, I berra hold my peace. Arguing is nt my thing |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 7:21pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Kay17: Yes I read it. He stated the first possibility and debunked it himself(pastoraio ) he then stated the second possibility that probably Christ died to take away spiritual consequences of sin,That's the last possible meaning he gave that he didn't debunk. So it means he agreed with the last possible meaning. If So ,I made him realise that If death is the only way to affirm that Jesus death wasn't in vain,then clearly It's all scam!!!! Cmon is that difficult to understand? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by smartigo: 7:48pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Dapo777:I never said anytin abt that neither did I say your claim was spurious,so what do I have to prove? I only asked him a question when you brought up your analogy. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 8:11pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
smartigo: Now we are getting somewhere. I just placed u in the same position u placed the person u were asking. Can u see how difficult it is for u to give me reason why flying spaghetti monster never existed,the same way it is difficult to prove that God never existed,. My point is,even though you can't prove that something doesn't exist that doesn't mean it exist,as u have just seen now with the flying spaghetti monster. The day a Christian would give me unbiased reasons why They think the flying spaghetti monster doesnt exist,thats the day I would believe God exist. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by ihedinobi2: 8:12pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
PastorAIO:Hello sir. Yes it has been. Please forgive my tardiness in responding. I'm afraid my mind is generally too full for me to handle certain kinds of discussions appreciatively. Please bear with me. My answer though is this: the danger of separation from God and all that He means eternally. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 8:15pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Kay17: Jesus was a hot tempered man,he scattered the whole temple within minutes,is that the best way to live? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 8:19pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Lynpetra wetin u Dey do for religion section? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by gatiano(m): 8:24pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Jesus was born just like everyone else, he studied, he taught, he was obedient and submit to the will of his creator (GOD), He gave up himself when he noticed that the jews (caucasian race) who he was sent to teach will never change. He was told by the supreme elders that it was of no use. why to waste time? since the rulers (the jews) wanted his head, he decided to give it to them, not even on the cross. He was embalmed by his father Joseph to last 10,000 years by an egyptian (black) embalm specialist. He is embalmed in Jerusalem. if you are a christian, you will need a signature of the pope and 6000$ (i don't know the rate today). you will see jesus's body, with your hand cuffed behind you. there are four reflections of the body so that you can tell which is which (this is so so that devils will not touch it), if you are a muslim, it's free. to answer your question, Jesus can't save an ant now, not to talk of the world. why? he died 2014 years ago. and if he rose after three days as we all have been programmed and deceived to believe, he won't or can't live past 1000 years. Only GOD can save the world, only HE who created it all can save the world. but HE has not come to save it, HE has come to let it down flat! for everything to be made new, the old ones/existing ones must be really filthing and must be destroyed along with the man of sin and those that he deceive/ed/ing/ and will deceive. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 8:34am On Oct 21, 2014 |
Dapo777:Intelligent peep plenty there.i dey read comments. |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by MizMyColi(f): 9:42am On Oct 21, 2014 |
Pardon my asking, PastorAIO but, are you really a pastor? Like Pastor-Pastor? |
Re: QUESTION: Why Isn't Jesus Saving Our World by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 21, 2014 |
lynpetra:Ait,I suppose u Ar a Christian,just be careful So u won't lose ur faith. I already lost mine. |
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