Let's look at some practical keys on how you can begin to experience God's manifested presence in your life by practicing His presence. It is one thing to know theologically that God is with you, but to experience His presence, you have to increase your consciousness of His presence by practicing His presence!

This is not something difficult. In fact, it should be rather effortless. Do you know that as you are reading about Jesus, you have been and you are practicing the presence of God? As you are reading about Jesus and discovering what He says in His Word about you, you have just become effortlessly more conscious of His presence with you.

As you think of Jesus more and more, you will begin to experience a peace you never had, a strength like never before and a joy that you cannot describe with words. Wisdom starts to flow and your decision-making ability is sharpened. Just by being exposed to the presence of God, the breakthrough that you have been struggling for supernaturally occurs.

Trees don't strain and struggle to produc fruit. Instead, with adequate exposure to sunlight and water, fruits are produced effortlessly. Similarly, with adequate exposure to Christ and Word of God, good fruits are produced in your life effortlessly.
All good fruits are birthed just by you being in the presence of God! Stress, depression, and anger fade away and no longer dominate your thoughts. Worry has no foothold in your mind.

The consciousness of Jesus' perfect love for you removes every vestige of fear. You feel and start behaving like the new creation in Christ that you are, regardless of your current circumstances.
Hallelujah!

AMEN. Nice.

Interesting. How i wish more christian practice the presence of God.

Hallelujah! At last, a christian that has come to discuss a practice of his religion. Not just blowing theological hot air and juggling dogmas that have been contorted out of the bible.

PastorAIO:
Hallelujah! At last, a christian that has come to discuss a practice of his religion. Not just blowing theological hot air and juggling dogmas that have been contorted out of the bible.

i hope you are aware that practicing the presence of God is based on dogmas, most important among them is that there is God, a personal God to be specific, he is everywhere and particularly in the innermost being of men.

No one can practice the presence of God without those dogmas. I really don't get why it seems you think dogmas are the death bed of the practice of religion.

What do you mean by dogma and
can you define dogma in line with practicing the presence of God?

Ubenedictus:


i hope you are aware that practicing the presence of God is based on dogmas, most important among them is that there is God, a personal God to be specific, he is everywhere and particularly in the innermost being of men.

No one can practice the presence of God without those dogmas. I really don't get why it seems you think dogmas are the death bed of the practice of religion.

Ubenedictus:


i hope you are aware that practicing the presence of God is based on dogmas, most important among them is that there is God, a personal God to be specific, he is everywhere and particularly in the innermost being of men.

No one can practice the presence of God without those dogmas. I really don't get why it seems you think dogmas are the death bed of the practice of religion.

Dogma cannot be avoided. It provides a framework within which you practise. Dogmas become a deathbed when you stop at the dogma and all you do is engage with dogma, and argue over dogma, and juggle dogmas etc. But the Dogma is NOT the practice of Religion.

Let me try to make an analogy with Medicine. Based on Theory of Humours (a dogma received from Galen) a doctor prescribes a course of medicine for a patient. It so happens that the medicine is effective and the patient recovers.

Later on, many centuries pass, and doctors do not accept the Theory of Humours anymore but have instead a Theory of Pathogens. They also discover that the medicine prescribed previously but the old skool doctors had active ingredients that effective attacked the pathogens in the patient and that was why the previous course of medicine worked. They might have been following different Theories but the actually course of Medicine prescribed remains the same.

What use is the notion that there is a God, a personal God, if all you do is stop at the notion and do not practice a discipline to experience the Presence of God?

What about the person who undertakes the practice and experiences satisfactory results, BUT somehow does not feel that God, as he was dogmatically taught in sunday school, has anything to do with the experience?

Ubenedictus:


i hope you are aware that practicing the presence of God is based on dogmas, most important among them is that there is God, a personal God to be specific, he is everywhere and particularly in the innermost being of men.

No one can practice the presence of God without those dogmas. I really don't get why it seems you think dogmas are the death bed of the practice of religion.

I thought Yahweh was the god of the ancient Hebrews.
When exactly did he transform into a personal god for all humanity.
Is that dogma?
At what church council was this particular dogma articulated?

And secondly, we Igbo believe also in the concept of a personal god, The Chi.
Each person had his or her own Chi that guided the life and destiny of that person.
Do you think that notion of personal god you are referring to and the Igbo concept if Chi are one and the same?

And finally, how is, or how can a universal god who created, sustains and manipulate the universe be personal?
This would suggest a god who would be in perpetual conflict with himself.

JusConcept:
What do you mean by dogma and
can you define dogma in line with practicing the presence of God?

dogmas are simply set beliefs e.g There is God, Jesus is lord, he live he me, i am the temple of the holyspirit, they are called dogmas.

To practice the presence of God then you need a few dogma, one is that there is God, another is that he has made a home in us.

PastorAIO:


Dogma cannot be avoided. It provides a framework within which you practise. Dogmas become a deathbed when you stop at the dogma and all you do is engage with dogma, and argue over dogma, and juggle dogmas etc. But the Dogma is NOT the practice of Religion.

Let me try to make an analogy with Medicine. Based on Theory of Humours (a dogma received from Galen) a doctor prescribes a course of medicine for a patient. It so happens that the medicine is effective and the patient recovers.

Later on, many centuries pass, and doctors do not accept the Theory of Humours anymore but have instead a Theory of Pathogens. They also discover that the medicine prescribed previously but the old skool doctors had active ingredients that effective attacked the pathogens in the patient and that was why the previous course of medicine worked. They might have been following different Theories but the actually course of Medicine prescribed remains the same.

What use is the notion that there is a God, a personal God, if all you do is stop at the notion and do not practice a discipline to experience the Presence of God?

o.k, i see your point and i agree.

What about the person who undertakes the practice and experiences satisfactory results, BUT somehow does not feel that God, as he was dogmatically taught in sunday school, has anything to do with the experience?

then he has to go back to his "drawing board" and check again who God is, i have also learnt that experiences are that always a perfect guide in our relationships with God.

plaetton:


I thought Yahweh was the god of the ancient Hebrews.
When exactly did he transform into a personal god for all humanity.
Is that dogma?
At what church council was this particular dogma articulated?

it is probably the most important part of christian, and its found in scriptures. Yahweh is God of the whole world he chose the hebrews are an instrument of salvation for all humanity. So yes, Yahweh is God of all and each man may have a personal relationship with him.

And secondly, we Igbo believe also in the concept of a personal god, The Chi.
Each person had his or her own Chi that guided the life and destiny of that person.
Do you think that notion of personal god you are referring to and the Igbo concept if Chi are one and the same?

i am conversant with the idea of Chi and it isn't exactly the same concept as that of a personal one God. Instead i believe that the guy who created the universe and governs it and establishes it laws is also a personal being who establishes bonds of friendship with his creature and capable of relationships with his creatures..

And finally, how is, or how can a universal god who created, sustains and manipulate the universe be personal?
This would suggest a god who would be in perpetual conflict with himself.

no really,
why do u think the universe was created?
I believe it was created for my good and that of humanity, creation is there to serve me, so yeah i believe the creator is a personal God and is happy to manipulate it for my good.

Ubenedictus:


it is probably the most important part of christian, and its found in scriptures. Yahweh is God of the whole world he chose the hebrews are an instrument of salvation for all humanity. So yes, Yahweh is God of all and each man may have a personal relationship with him.

i am conversant with the idea of Chi and it isn't exactly the same concept as that of a personal one God. Instead i believe that the guy who created the universe and governs it and establishes it laws is also a personal being who establishes bonds of friendship with his creature and capable of relationships with his creatures..


no really,
why do u think the universe was created?
I believe it was created for my good and that of humanity, creation is there to serve me, so yeah i believe the creator is a personal God and is happy to manipulate it for my good.

Too many falsehoods and contradictions in this post. Too many asserted facts that are clearly in contrast to what we have learned from history, archeology and science.

No matter how blind your faith is, or how much mental gymnastics you perform, even your bible tells you that Yahweh was one tribal deity among many.
Even Yahweh himself confesses that the tribe of Jacob and some portions of the land of Canaan were his own INHERITANCE.
Dwell on that word INHERITANCE, if cognitive dissonance would let you.

I will address the entire post later.

plaetton:

Too many falsehoods and contradictions in this post. Too many asserted facts that are clearly in contrast to what we have learned from history, archeology and science.

No matter how blind your faith is, or how much mental gymnastics you perform, even your bible tells you that Yahweh was one tribal deity among many.
Even Yahweh himself confesses that the tribe of Jacob and some portions of the land of Canaan were his own INHERITANCE.
Dwell on that word INHERITANCE, if cognitive dissonance would let you.

I will address the entire post later.

the bible says Yahweh is God of the whole universe, i'll stick with that. I remember i had this same story not lond ago.