raumdeuter:


So how's the epl any better than the bundesliga this season

Gap between first and 4th in both league is what?

E-goat!..... Do you ever get tired of taking to the cleaners on the EPL and Bundesliga argument?

Dayo you should be castrated with a lawn mower!

mikeywise:

good question, by the end of the season, we all know that Bayern will win it, but the EPL, we are not sure who will.

Are you sure? If you're sure let's stake $1000

I say Chelsea would win.

If Chelsea wins you give me $1000 if any other team wins I give you $1500.

Deal?

To prove that no one is sure of winning. I pick one team I give you the chance to pick 17 other teams

I'm sure you would say you don't bet

raumdeuter:




How many times have man utd won the premier league 13 times. The next team arsenal has only won 3 times

No let United fans hear this one oh!

They've won for a record 20 times.
Runners-up(Liverpool) 18 times.

20-18 = 2

Unlike Bundesliga

24-9 = 15

Noah13:

EPL is full of suprises, that is what makes it different. Unlike the Bundesliga, it won't look suprising if Bayern is still top of the table by march next year.

EPL is full of upsets, and that is what makes it different .

In the La Liga Barcelona lost to Celta Viga last weekend, Madrid from 2-0 up lost to Sociedad,
In Germany Bayern drew Hamburg, Dortmund lost 5 games in a row, yesterday Schalke lost to Freiburg
In Italy Juventus lost to Genoa

Its a very ignorant statement to say one league is full of upsets when all leagues can boast the same

Noah13:
No let United fans hear this one oh!

They've won for a record 20 times.
Runners-up(Liverpool) 18 times.

20-18 = 2

Unlike Bundesliga

24-9 = 15

Since the Premier league started in 1992 ManUtd has won it 13 times the next teams are Arsenal and Chelsea with 3 wins each

raumdeuter:


In the La Liga Barcelona lost to Celta Viga last weekend, Madrid from 2-0 up lost to Sociedad,
In Germany Bayern drew Hamburg, Dortmund lost 5 games in a row, yesterday Schalke lost to Freiburg
In Italy Juventus lost to Genoa

Its a very ignorant statement to say one league is full of upsets when all leagues can boast the same

Let's take the current leaders(Bayern and Chelsea) loss stats for last season. How many average team did Bayern lost to last season?

You calling the bold text an upset? Come on. When you talk upsets talk
Leceister - United

raumdeuter:


Are you sure? If you're sure let's stake $1000

I say Chelsea would win.

If Chelsea wins you give me $1000 if any other team wins I give you $1500.

Deal?

To prove that no one is sure of winning. I pick one team I give you the chance to pick 17 other teams

I'm sure you would say you don't bet

That means u have agreed that Bayern has already won the Bundesliga?

raumdeuter:


Since the Premier league started in 1992 ManUtd has won it 13 times the next teams are Arsenal and Chelsea with 3 wins each

We ain't talking 1992 bro.

mikeywise:

That means u have agreed that Bayern has already won the Bundesliga?

Bayern have already won the league the same way Chelsea have already won their league.

If youre in doubt about Chelsea stake money on it then I would know you believe that EPL is actually uncertain

Chelsea win you give me $1000, Any other team you choose win, I give you $1500

DEAL?

Noah13:
We ain't talking 1992 bro.

We are talking about when the Premier league started which was in 1992

Noah13:
Let's take the current leaders(Bayern and Chelsea) loss stats for last season. How many average team did Bayern lost to last season?

You calling the bold text an upset? Come on. When you talk upsets talk
Leceister - United

Why should we be considering last seasons stat? Dortmund was 2nd last season currently they are in 16th place, Liverpool was 2nd last season currently they are 11th place

Last season Bayern lost to Augsburg

This season how many games has Chelsea lost?

We are talking about upset, How about Dortmund losing 5 games in a row. Tell us the last time an EPL top team lost 5 games in a row like it happened in the bundesliga

3 of the current bottom 4 in the Bundesliga have won the league in the last 10yrs. WHen EPL bottom 4 consist of 3 previous winners in the last decade then we can be talking about surprises

raumdeuter:


Bayern have already won the league the same way Chelsea have already won their league.

If youre in doubt about Chelsea stake money on it then I would know you believe that EPL is actually uncertain

Chelsea win you give me $1000, Any other team you choose win, I give you $1500

DEAL?

I am a Chelsea fan and would want Chelsea to win the league, you dont expect me to bet against them, do u?

mikeywise:

I am a Chelsea fan and would want Chelsea to win the league, you dont expect me to bet against them, do u?

If you are sure going by your assertion that EPL is unpredictable then you should take the bet. You are risking $1000 to win $1500

I am sure if I give you a bet that Chelsea would win Champions league $1000 and you take any other team to win $1500 you would jump at it

If I the bet was about Nigeria winning the world cup vs other 31teams you wont remember that you are a Nigerian

raumdeuter:


If you are sure going by your assertion that EPL is unpredictable then you should take the bet. You are risking $1000 to win $1500

I am sure if I give you a bet that Chelsea would win Champions league $1000 and you take any other team to win $1500 you would jump at it

If I the bet was about Nigeria winning the world cup vs other 31teams you wont remember that you are a Nigerian

this your analogy between chelsea and Nigeria are different, while chelsea is playing very well, will the same be said of Nigeria Super eagles?

Arsenal led for most part of last season and yet they didn't win the league.
2011/2012 season, at a time, man u led with 8 or 11 points yet they didn't win the league.

mikeywise:

this your analogy between chelsea and Nigeria are different, while chelsea is playing very well, will the same be said of Nigeria Super eagles?

Arsenal led for most part of last season and yet they didn't win the league.
2011/2012 season, at a time, man u led with 8 or 11 points yet they didn't win the league.

Im not talking about Arsenal leading last season or another team leading some yrs back, I am talking about this 2014/2015 season that Chelsea would win

If Chelsea is playing well but you still feel the EPL title is unpredictable then you shouldnt turn down the opportunity to make $1500.

I would even change the terms to favour you

CHelsea wins you pay me $1000, ANY OTHER TEAM WIN, I pay you $1500. You cant get that type of deal anywhere else.

So if you really believe EPL this season is unpredictable you would take it. Declining it means you know in your mind that EPL for this season is already decided

raumdeuter:


Im not talking about Arsenal leading last season or another team leading some yrs back, I am talking about this 2014/2015 season that Chelsea would win

If Chelsea is playing well but you still feel the EPL title is unpredictable then you shouldnt turn down the opportunity to make $1500.

I would even change the terms to favour you

CHelsea wins you pay me $1000, ANY OTHER TEAM WIN, I pay you $1500. You cant get that type of deal anywhere else.

So if you really believe EPL this season is unpredictable you would take it. Declining it means you know in your mind that EPL for this season is already decided

I would have taken up on your challenge if Chelsea is not atleast 8 points clear of their title rivals.

mikeywise:

I would have taken up on your challenge if Chelsea is not atleast 8 points clear of their title rivals.

So you are saying that the EPL title for this season is already decided

SO what was your point of claiming the below

mikeywise:

good question, by the end of the season, we all know that Bayern will win it, but the EPL, we are not sure who will.

raumdeuter:


So you are saying that the EPL title for this season is already decided

SO what was your point of claiming the below

that is not what i am saying, what i mean is ,assuming i am a city fan, i would have taken u up on that challenge that the league has not yet been won. As a chelsea fan, i can't bet against Chelsea winning the league.

raumdeuter:


Why should we be considering last seasons stat? Dortmund was 2nd last season currently they are in 16th place, Liverpool was 2nd last season currently they are 11th place

Last season Bayern lost to Augsburg

This season how many games has Chelsea lost?

We are talking about upset, How about Dortmund losing 5 games in a row. Tell us the last time an EPL top team lost 5 games in a row like it happened in the bundesliga

3 of the current bottom 4 in the Bundesliga have won the league in the last 10yrs. WHen EPL bottom 4 consist of 3 previous winners in the last decade then we can be talking about surprises

Chelsea lost to Crystal Palace of all teams.

Bro, you beginning to bring other facts into the matter. We not talking about consecutive losses or current bottom teams winning the league in the last 10 yrs.

My point is Bayern's dominance in the league -

Since 1963

Bayern - 23
BvB - 6

Damn!


Unlike the EPL, the margin is way too much.

Noah13:
Chelsea lost to Crystal Palace of all teams.
Bro, you beginning to bring other facts into the matter. We not talking about consecutive losses or current bottom teams winning the league in the last 10 yrs.

My point is Bayern's dominance in the league -
Since 1963

Bayern - 23
BvB - 6

Damn!

Unlike EPL, the margin is way too much.

Bayern lost to Augsburg of all teams

The fact is in the EPL this season Chelsea is certain to win like the way Bayern is certain to win
You are bringing things that point to EPL being unpredictable and I am also bringing stuffs that show Bundesliga is unpredictable


Since 1992 Man Utd 13 titles, Arsenal 3 CHelsea 3 City 2

Because Football started in 1992

i no mention anybody o,u mention me, you lose your wallet tomorrow

Premier league started in 1992.

When they mention 1963, Did football start in 1963?

raumdeuter:


Bayern lost to Augsburg of all teams

The fact is in the EPL this season Chelsea is certain to win like the way Bayern is certain to win
You are bringing things that point to EPL being unpredictable and I am also bringing stuffs that show Bundesliga is unpredictable


Since 1992 Man Utd 13 titles, Arsenal 3 CHelsea 3 City 2

I still think the EPL is unpredictable. But as usual no one can deny Bayern the league

raumdeuter:
Premier league started in 1992.

When they mention 1963, Did football start in 1963?

That was when the Bundesliga was created, since you said the EPL was created in 1992.

Noah13:

EPL is full of suprises, that is what makes it different. Unlike the Bundesliga, it won't look suprising if Bayern is still top of the table by march next year.













EPL is full of upsets, and that is what makes it different .

GBAM!

As it stands, Dayo is currently winning the argument. Perhaps a more appropriate statement is that "The unpredictability of the Premier League manifests in a way that makes it nearly impossible to be certain about the Champions before the league starts" and that "The same cannot be said about the Bundesliga"

That said, the fact that Chelsea "appear" at this moment in time to be running away with the league does not make the league more predictable. As a matter of fact, this year's turn of events is an exception and not in any way similar to what is widely regarded as the norm in the Bundesliga.

nateevs:
As it stands, Dayo is currently winning the argument. Perhaps a more appropriate statement is that "The unpredictability of the Premier League manifests in a way that makes it nearly impossible to be certain about the Champions before the league starts" and that "The same cannot be said about the Bundesliga"

That said, the fact that Chelsea "appear" at this moment in time to be running away with the league does not make the league more predictable. As a matter of fact, this year's turn of events is an exception and not in any way similar to what is widely regarded as the norm in the Bundesliga.

It is not an arguement. I just said why would anyone be watching Bayern Munich's league, and as usual, he is defending the league.

As Fabregas has been ruled out for the next 3 matches, who's gonna be the playmaker?

Can Mikel step into the role?

It's actually pretty easy to predict who would win the EPL as it is invariably one of either Chelsea, Manyoo or ManCity with Arsenal as rank outsiders.

nateevs:
As it stands, Dayo is currently winning the argument. Perhaps a more appropriate statement is that "The unpredictability of the Premier League manifests in a way that makes it nearly impossible to be certain about the Champions before the league starts" and that "The same cannot be said about the Bundesliga"

That said, the fact that Chelsea "appear" at this moment in time to be running away with the league does not make the league more predictable. As a matter of fact, this year's turn of events is an exception and not in any way similar to what is widely regarded as the norm in the Bundesliga.

Of all the posters you have made a more coherent argument that the others before you.

But I would present some counter to it. In recent times e.g in the last 10yrs results have shown More clubs winning the Bundesliga than in the EPL.

In the last 10yrs, Bremen, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg and Dortmund in addition to Bayern have won. while EPL in the last 10yrs has Arsenal, Chelsea City and Man Utd.

Before the start of this season many analysts have Chelsea winning the league infact all Betting odds favoured Chelsea before the league kicked off(I posted it on this thread), the same way they would have favoured Bayern in the Bundesliga and Juventus in the Serrie A.

Only La Liga can be said to have the level of uncertainty prior to the start of the season and even till now

At the beginning of this season many analysts thought Dortmund with their added depth and Bayern struggles would win the league especially with the way they blew Bayern out in the Supercup but as its turning out right now, Dormund is even struggling to win lower table sides

Nihilist:
It's actually pretty easy to predict who would win the EPL as it is invariably one of either Chelsea, Manyoo or ManCity with Arsenal as rank outsiders.

Actually this season Man Yoo would also rank as outsider.

Over the past 5 seasons, Is either one of those 3 having a slump and ruled out even before the season reaches a 3rd so usually ends a 2 horse race.

Nihilist:
It's actually pretty easy to predict who would win the EPL as it is invariably one of either Chelsea, Manyoo or ManCity with Arsenal as rank outsiders.

That is a 1 in 4 probability and still more of a task predicting the eventual champions. The same cannot be said about the Bundesliga and that is the point.