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Christianity And God by smallrincowis16(m): 3:40pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
the bible consist of the word of man,word of God,word of stone,animals,angels,satan etc.. for example: Judges 9:13 ASV American Standard Version And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my new wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to wave to and fro over the trees? IS THIS GOD'S WORD? Furthermore,we read more words that are not of God in the bible, Matthew 15:27 "7"8 Parallel Verses New International Version "Yes it is, Lord," she said. "Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table." Who was talking,God,the woman or an historian? IS THIS GOD'S WORD?apparently NO! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> After analyzing how I came to believe that the Bible is not the word of God,I will like to talk about another christian theory which is; JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF HUMANITY,HOW TRUE When an innocent man is given punishment for something he didn't do, he must be compensated for this punishment. This is fair and understandable. An example in today's time would be Maher Arar, a Syrian-Canadian who is a Muslim that got accused of being a terrorist by US officials. This man as innocent as he was of this accusation, was deported to Syria and placed in prison for a year, where he was put through torture. Later, he was released and recently he was granted $10.5 Million Canadian as compensation for his time and suffering. This man was innocent and indeed was deserving of compensation. The Christian argument goes that God came as Jesus; he was sinless and died on the cross, and was compensated by being brought back to life and in addition getting all of mankind's sins wiped away. Technically, Jesus shouldn't have been compensated for anything. In this article,I am going to ignore the Islamic position of Jesus and God and i am going to discuss who died for whose sins, according to the Christian scriptures. This article is meant to bash Christians and their faith, but to show that the idea of Jesus dying for our sins is baseless. God, in the Hebrew (Old) Testament has had many situations where he commands atrocities and then repents for the actions committed. In II Samuel 24:15-16 after 70,000 people are killed, and God puts an end to the command and repents for this great disaster. II Samuel 24:15-16 15 So the LORD sent a plague on Israel from that morning until the end of the time designated, and seventy thousand of the people from Dan to Beersheba died. 16 When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem;the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people,Enough! Withdraw your hand. The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite. So as we read here after the 70,000 people were killed, the God of the bible repents and puts an end to the calamity. Who knew that God has regrets? So basically in a Questions and Answers conversation between a non-christian and a Christian, it seems you will find something along these lines happening"" Non-christian: Why don't all the dead people get compensated by being brought back to life? Christian: Well these people were corrupted individuals who died and it was necessary at the time that they be killed. Non-christian: So, you believe that all the people who died were corrupted? No one was an innocent bystander by any chance? Christian: Well, there might have been a couple here and there. Non-christian: So how do they get compensated? Christian:That'ss up to God. Non-christian: Fair enough. So what about all the other corrupted individuals who didn't die, who probably survived and weren't put to death? Christian: Jesus died for their sins! I am honestly less than pleased with the answer""Jesus died for our sins."" With the above made clear, it causes us to really want to know whose sins did Jesus (as God) really die for? ------------ In Zephaniah 2:12-15 we find God stating; 12 You too, O Cushites,will be slain by my sword. 13 He will stretch out his hand against the north and destroy Assyria,leaving Nineveh utterly desolate and dry as the desert. 14 Flocks and herds will lie down there, creatures of every kind. The desert owl and the screech owl will roost on her columns. Their calls will echo through the windows, rubble will be in the doorways, the beams of cedar will be exposed. 15 This is the carefree city that lived in safety. She said to herself, I am, and there is none besides me. What a ruin she has become, a lair for wild beasts! All who pass by her scoff and shake their fists. ----------- This shows a lot of murderous anger and hatred coming from the end of God (assuming he's Jesus). Now, i go a little further into this article and point out once again, that Jesus is God according to the Christians and that many atrocities have been performed by the command of God. Be reminded also that God repents for these atrocities. However, as nice as this ""repentance"" may appear that comes from God""s end each time an atrocity occurs, it does not really bring back these people from the dead or grant them any form of compensation. The 6thcommandment of""Do Not Murder""is clear and its consequences are elaborated in Genesis 9:6;""Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed""where the sin for murder is compensated through executing the murderer.This is the implication of capital punishment, where a man who kills must be killed. Repentance on its own is not prescribed as a way of compensating for the sin of murder. In other words, if I were to murder someone and I were to be judged by the laws of the bible, me apologizing to the family of the victim and/or repenting, wouldn't cut it; I would need to undergo execution. In the case of God, where he supposedly comes as man, it would be fair to say that in the end Jesus didn't die for the sins of mankind, but rather for his own personal commands of murder in the Old Testament. So we conclude that justice was served, by the death of Jesus on the cross. Therefore, it can't be possible that The Son died for the sins of man but if anything, he died for the sins of The Father. Christians put their faith in Jesus Christ, because they believe he died for their sins, where in this article I have just come to point out that if anyone died for anyone's sins, its more or less for his own. The contradiction behind the belief of Jesus dying for mankind's sins is clear and should no longer be used as a segue into the Christian doctrine. Christians need to see the fault behind the reasoning of their faith in Christ, and should not worship Jesus as a middleman between themselves and God. Rather, we should all focus on God alone and to only worship him, to accept that Jesus was only a mere man created by God. ----------------- I will buttress my points by making use of two biblical verses to back up my claim that jesus died not for the sins of humanity. 1.Ezekiel 18:20 New International Version (NIV) 20 The one who sins is the one who will die.The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them. 2.Deuteronomy 24:16 "7"8 Parallel Verses New International Version Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin. ------------------ These two verses further proves that no man shall die for the sins of another but every man shall die for his sins hence,JESUS DIED NOT FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After analyzing why I stopped to disbelieve the lies that Jesus died for the sins of mankind,I will quickly write about; WHO DESERVES OUR WORSHIP Unarguably,no biblical prophet from Adam to Jesus worshipped any other god except their creator.the whole prophets came with just one message,ONE GOD! even Jesus Never worshipped himself but God!.taking Jesus to be God, saviour worthy of worship is totally unbiblical,below are bible verses talking about monotheism; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Deuteronomy 4:35 "To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him. Deuteronomy 32:39 'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand. Nehemiah 9:6 "You alone are the LORD You have made the heavens, The heaven of heavens with all their host, The earth and all that is on it, The seas and all that is in them You give life to all of them And the heavenly host bows down before You. Psalms 83:18 That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. Psalms 86:10 For You are great and do wondrous deeds; You alone are God. Isaiah 43:10 "You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. Isaiah 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), "I am the LORD, and there is none else. Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; Romans 3:30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. James 2:19 You believe that God is one You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 1 Kings 8:23 He said, "O LORD, the God of Israel, there is no God like You in heaven above or on earth beneath, keeping covenant and showing loving kindness to Your servants who walk before You with all their heart, Exodus 8:10 Then he said, "Tomorrow." So he said, "May it be according to your word, that you may know that there is no one like the LORD our God. 2 Samuel 7:22 "For this reason You are great, O Lord GOD; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. 1 Chronicles 17:20 "O LORD, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. Psalms 89:6 For who in the skies is comparable to the LORD? Who among the sons of the mighty is like the LORD, Isaiah 40:18 To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare with Him? Exodus 20:3-5 "You shall have no other gods before Me. "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, Deuteronomy 5:7-9 'You shall have no other gods before Me. 'You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 'You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, Jeremiah 25:6 and do not go after other gods to serve them and to worship them, and do not provoke Me to anger with the work of your hands, and I will do you no harm.' Exodus 20:23 'You shall not make other gods besides Me; gods of silver or gods of gold, you shall not make for yourselves. Exodus 34:14 --for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God-- Deuteronomy 6:14 "You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, Deuteronomy 13:6-8 "If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 2 Kings 17:38-39 "The covenant that I have made with you, you shall not forget, nor shall you fear other gods. "But the LORD your God you shall fear; and He will deliver you from the hand of all your enemies." Psalms 81:9 "Let there be no strange god among you; Nor shall you worship any foreign god. Jeremiah 1:16 "I will pronounce My judgments on them concerning all their wickedness, whereby they have forsaken Me and have offered sacrifices to other gods, and worshiped the works of their own hands. Jeremiah 19:4 "Because they have forsaken Me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither they nor their forefathers nor the kings of Judah had ever known, and because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent Jeremiah 35:15 "Also I have sent to you all My servants the prophets, sending them again and again, saying: 'Turn now every man from his evil way and amend your deeds, and do not go after other gods to worship them Then you will dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your forefathers; but you have not inclined your ear or listened to Me. Deuteronomy 6:4-5 "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Deuteronomy 13:4 "You shall follow the LORD your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him. Matthew 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'" 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 For they themselves report about us what kind of a reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come. Isaiah 37:19 and have cast their gods into the fire, for they were not gods but the work of men's hands, wood and stone So they have destroyed them. 1 Corinthians 8:4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one. 1 Corinthians 10:19-20 What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. Isaiah 44:9-11 Those who fashion a graven image are all of them futile, and their precious things are of no profit; even their own witnesses fail to see or know, so that they will be put to shame. Who has fashioned a god or cast an idol to no profit? Behold, all his companions will be put to shame, for the craftsmen themselves are mere men. Let them all assemble themselves, let them stand up, let them tremble, let them together be put to shame. Acts 14:15 and saying, "Men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM. Galatians 4:8 However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods.//////// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE ABOVE VERSES TALKS ABOUT THE MONOTHEISTIC CONCEPT OF GOD AND ISLAM MEANS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD |
Re: Christianity And God by DeHero1: 3:45pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
Hmmmm... o ga o |
Re: Christianity And God by olajide21: 4:12pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
Let's all read without been biase and make informed discission on how to serve our creator..... The world we live in now is only for a little while, life after death is Eternal......... Worship the one true God and don't render your good deeds futile......... |
Re: Christianity And God by Ukeachu1(m): 4:21pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
person when neva pass jamb they try disprove God |
Re: Christianity And God by olajide21: 4:23pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
DeHero1:DeHero. Ko ga ra ra at all! You just need to think deep, search for the true God, ask real questions from those who know...... God created us to serve Him alone. Not through anybody (I mean the so called men of "God" but directly! Why not forget about the stereotypical connotations labelled on Islam and Muslim and pick a book or an English Qur'an read the text and refer your questions to The Mislims around you....... |
Re: Christianity And God by ZKOSOSO(m): 4:47pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
OP is a madcow on the loose!! By their fruits.......u know them! Its better u serve twenty gods and be peaceful with ur fellow man than serve one wicked god who drinks only human blood on non stop bases!! Its so easy to prove that Islam= fighting. Jihad. Evil. Babarism. Bloodletting. Bombing. Beheading. Rapeeing. Stealing. Arsonists. Armed robbers. Cradle hustlers. Peadophiles. Liars. Occultism. Oppression etc than any other religion on earth!! Trust me! |
Re: Christianity And God by smallrincowis16(m): 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
that's just it.............. Islam is the way think of it make your research and know the truth don't be carried away by the blasphemy 2 Likes |
Re: Christianity And God by smallrincowis16(m): 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
that's just it.............. Islam is the way think of it make your research and know the truth don't be carried away by the blasphemy did Christian know that there God Audi author the and thing |
Re: Christianity And God by malvisguy212: 11:19pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
smallrincowis16:you post this thread here,why not post it in the religion section and get your answer? Islam is of the devil, the satan want you to end up in hell that why quran promise all pious Muslim hell. Check this thread and see how Allah lied; https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity And see Allah failed prophecy; https://www.nairaland.com/2074132/allahs-failed-prophecy-quran And see were Muslim get there inspiration for terror; https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism Op, if you die now, yoi will go to hell, am not the one that say this,the evidence is in the quran. |
Re: Christianity And God by smallrincowis16(m): 9:10pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
malvisguy212:all an online scholar. do your ever know what secondary source of information is?? |
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