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Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:27am On Dec 08, 2014
[b]Time and time again, we get this strange Ballon D'or nomination that does not make sense. First time I noticed this was in the 1998 Ballon D'or crowning of Zidane which was absolutely ridiculous. Ronaldo De Lima was clearly the best player in the European Leagues and in the European tournaments. Ronaldo scored the winning goal and he was rightly named the best player in Europe by UEFA.

In the World Cup, Ronaldo De Lima was the best player of the tournament. His magical performance against Netherland was a crowning achievement. FIFA gave it to Zidane because it was a World Cup year. The question is was Zidane the best player of the year? Was he the best player of the French side that conquered France '98? Zidane was given a red card in that tournament and did not play all the games. He scored two goals in the final but Thuram scored two goals in the quarter finals, being a defender, played all the matches and did not get a red card. So why Zidane?

Canavaro in 2006. He was given the award because a defending Italy won the World Cup. Hilarious. First of all, Juventus were caught up in a match fixing scandal. Canavaro was part oof that team and should not qualify for the award. Then, was Canavaro the best player of the Italian side? Andrea Pirlo was clearly the best player.

In the opening game, he was named the man of the match by coding the opening goal and setting up Iaquinta against Ghana. In the second match against USA, he set up a goal for Gilardino from a free kick. In the semifinal, he assisted Grosso's goal and was named man of the match a second time. He was named mam of the match the third time in the final. He assisted Materazzi's goal. Goes Canavaro won that Ballon D'or is shocking. He should not have been on the list.

Now we have another atrocious one. Manuel Neuer. Why is he on the list? It baffles me. He plays in sides where he hardly gets tested. He does not make much saves. Are we going to say his heroics led Germany to win the World Cup? The stats by Castro shows Toni Kroos was the best player of the tournament. If it was Toni Kroos listed, it would have been better. If I ask what is the criteria that is used to put Manuel Neuer on that list? I doubt anyone will have credible answer.

Whether Neuer wins the Ballon D'or or not, the harm has already been done. I do not see why Neuer should be ahead of Yaya Toure in that list. Talk less of the likes of Muller, Kroos, Jerome Boateng who worked hard to keep Bayern and Germany Successful.
http://passionforgoals..com/2014/12/manuel-neuers-ballon-dor-nomination-is.html
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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by starlingbawa(m): 5:17am On Dec 08, 2014
I thought so too! Absolutely no reason why Manuel Neuer should make the short list...

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by yuncka: 6:06am On Dec 08, 2014
Pls dnt waste Ur energy in matters concerning fifa. Even their ranking is crap.

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by Nobody: 8:23am On Dec 08, 2014
Everyone knows that it's the joke of the season.
We're talking about a guy that conceded 4 goals against Real Madrid.
He won the world cup.And so what?
He wasn't even the best keeper in the tournament.
The Germans won most of their games comfortably. Neuer had a little to do in those games.

Robben should have been in that list instead of.........What's the name again...........
Neuer or newer

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 7:23pm On Dec 09, 2014
Sorry bro u clearly don't know neuer or u just anoda guy who hates d backline guys...dah dude has bin consistent n superb

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by Djicemob: 8:58pm On Dec 09, 2014
dicksj93:
Sorry bro u clearly don't know neuer or u just anoda guy who hates d backline guys...dah dude has bin consistent n superb
consistent but couldnt prove himself against the big dogs.Madrid trashing of bayern comes to mind.

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:04pm On Dec 09, 2014
dicksj93:
Sorry bro u clearly don't know neuer or u just anoda guy who hates d backline guys...dah dude has bin consistent n superb
Victor Valdes was consistent behind the post for Barcelona during their great reign. Does that make him a nominee for Ballon D'or?
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by khattab02: 6:30am On Dec 10, 2014
I don't know the criteria used in selecting neuer in the final 3 but that guy is very good, the best Gk currently in the world. Besides having a strong back 4 to protect the post, you also need the brilliancy of a good Gk to make superb excellent saves. Ask man united about De dea.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:40am On Dec 10, 2014
khattab02:
I don't know the criteria used in selecting neuer in the final 3 but that guy is very good, the best Gk currently in the world. Beside having a strong back 4 to protect the net, you also need the brilliance of a good Gk to make superb excellent saves. Ask man united about De dea.
You contradicted yourself. Manchester United has a very weak back four. One of the worst in the premier league today. It takes the heroics of De Gea to keep them in top places. If The defence and the game play of the German and Bayern Munich sides were weak, Neuer would never be labeled the world's best keeper, talk less of nominated for the World Best. He crumbles any time the Bayern side do not play well. His keeping is not what kept Bayern or Germany flying. It is due to the exceptional game play of Bayern and Germany.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by khattab02: 8:07am On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
You contradicted yourself. Manchester United has a very weak back four. One of the worst in the premier league today. It takes the heroics of De Gea to keep them in top places. If The defence and the game play of the German and Bayern Munich sides were weak, Neuer would never be labeled the world's best keeper, talk less of nominated for the World Best. He crumbles any time the Bayern side do not play well. His keeping is not what kept Bayern or Germany flying. It is due to the exceptional game play of Bayern and Germany.
I didn't contradict my self because I didn't say united have a strong back 4. What am trying to imply there is that, whether u have a strong or weak back 4, you still need the brilliancy and superb save of a good Gk, which De gea is and has been exceptional for united. Similarly, Neuer has been superb and exceptional for both bayern and Germany making several breathe taking saves.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by omar22(m): 11:32am On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Victor Valdes was consistent behind the post for Barcelona during their great reign. Does that make him a nominee for Ballon D'or?

Victor Valdes is not that great, average at best

But with Neuer he has been the best goalie over the last 3 years 2012, 2013 and 2014, if he wins it, I will be happy for him joining Lev Yashin as the other GK to win the Ballon D'or
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 12:30pm On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
You contradicted yourself. Manchester United has a very weak back four. One of the worst in the premier league today. It takes the heroics of De Gea to keep them in top places. If The defence and the game play of the German and Bayern Munich sides were weak, Neuer would never be labeled the world's best keeper, talk less of nominated for the World Best. He crumbles any time the Bayern side do not play well. His keeping is not what kept Bayern or Germany flying. It is due to the exceptional game play of Bayern and Germany.
U DNT KNOW MANUEL NEUER..SIMPLE!!!

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 12:32pm On Dec 10, 2014
Djicemob:
consistent but couldnt prove himself against the big dogs.Madrid trashing of bayern comes to mind.
Bro every keeper including the greats do av doze kinda rare moments..it doesnt make dem bad

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by khattab02: 12:49pm On Dec 10, 2014
dicksj93:
Bro every keeper including the greats do av doze kinda rare moments..it doesnt make dem bad
bros I wonder ooo.... how many times has casillas suffered in the hands of Messi and co yet he was the best Gk then? What of De gea, Cech, Buffon, Curtois even Van der save?
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:18pm On Dec 10, 2014
dicksj93:
Bro every keeper including the greats do av doze kinda rare moments..it doesnt make dem bad
This is not best goal keeper award. Neuer is nominated ahead of the likes of Yaya, Neymar, Robben, Muller and Kroos.

Can you guys say Manuel Neuer was better in 2014 than these players?

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:21pm On Dec 10, 2014
omar22:


Victor Valdes is not that great, average at best

But with Neuer he has been the best goalie over the last 3 years 2012, 2013 and 2014, if he wins it, I will be happy for him joining Lev Yashin as the other GK to win the Ballon D'or
Do you think Manuel Neuer is among the top three players in the world today? Do you rate Neuer above Toni Kroos in 2014?
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 11:22pm On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Do you think Manuel Neuer is among the top three players in the world today? Do you rate Neuer above Toni Kroos in 2014?
yes
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 11:23pm On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Do you think Manuel Neuer is among the top three players in the world today? Do you rate Neuer above Toni Kroos in 2014?
kroos,lahm,Muller n neuer had an awesome 2014
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:24pm On Dec 10, 2014
dicksj93:
yes
Your reasons.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 11:28pm On Dec 10, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
This is not best goal keeper award. Neuer is nominated ahead of the likes of Yaya, Neymar, Robben, Muller and Kroos.

Can you guys say Manuel Neuer was better in 2014 than these players?
u being bias...wake up n realize dat wen u mention players..it include keepers,defenders,strikers,midfielders
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:35pm On Dec 10, 2014
dicksj93:
u being bias...wake up n realize dat wen u mention players..it include keepers,defenders,strikers,midfielders
[b]The Ballon D'or is for the best player. I still can not wrap my head around how Manuel Neuer is rated above Muller and Toni Kroos who were his compatriot at Bayern And Germany.

Look at this excerpt from an article supporting Neuer, you will see that he was not outstanding because of how great his side is.

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While the likes of Howard and Ochoa delivered outstanding performances that made them national heroes and Internet sensations, Neuer stands quietly a class above. While the other keepers made seemingly superhuman saves, Neuer’s composure, vision, and positioning make it so that his saves, however difficult, are rarely dramatic. His reactions are so controlled, his reading of the game so anticipatory, that the goal threat seems less dangerous. Basically, he’s so good that you forget that he is. 

It partly comes down to how good the German team is as a unit; Neuer never puts in as dramatic performance because he doesn’t have to, not because he can’t. So far, he’s made 24 saves and conceded four goals, while Howard, who played two fewer games, saved 27 shots and conceded six. Neuer will never top Howard’s record of saving 15 shots in one match, but that’s because the German defense would never put him in a position where he must.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118627/2014-world-cup-why-manuel-neuer-best-goalkeeper-hands-down

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From that article, you can see other players play great to make the team look good and leave less work for Manuel Neuer. So how come the guy that does less work is the best player?[/b]
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by kendrick9(m): 10:46am On Dec 11, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
[b]The Ballon D'or is for the best player. I still can not wrap my head around how Manuel Neuer is rated above Muller and Toni Kroos who were his compatriot at Bayern And Germany.

Look at this excerpt from an article supporting Neuer, you will see that he was not outstanding because of how great his side is.

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While the likes of Howard and Ochoa delivered outstanding performances that made them national heroes and Internet sensations, Neuer stands quietly a class above. While the other keepers made seemingly superhuman saves, Neuer’s composure, vision, and positioning make it so that his saves, however difficult, are rarely dramatic. His reactions are so controlled, his reading of the game so anticipatory, that the goal threat seems less dangerous. Basically, he’s so good that you forget that he is. 

It partly comes down to how good the German team is as a unit; Neuer never puts in as dramatic performance because he doesn’t have to, not because he can’t. So far, he’s made 24 saves and conceded four goals, while Howard, who played two fewer games, saved 27 shots and conceded six. Neuer will never top Howard’s record of saving 15 shots in one match, but that’s because the German defense would never put him in a position where he must.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118627/2014-world-cup-why-manuel-neuer-best-goalkeeper-hands-down

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From that article, you can see other players play great to make the team look good and leave less work for Manuel Neuer. So how come the guy that does less work is the best player?[/b]
neur desreves to be there.. infact i will hand him the ballon d'or.. u are a joke if u cant see what neuer is, a superhuman.. how many bayern and german games have u watched for u to spew trash lyk dis.. neuer was germany saviour at d world cup infact ask any german fan and even the playas themselves.. go and read articles and interviews frm his teamates and also open ur eyes and watch d wc again..
anyway i don't expect anytin less frm a guy who tinks enyeama is worldclass. u are d joke not neuer,who is now cemented as one of d greatest gk ever to play d game.

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by homesteady(m): 11:26am On Dec 11, 2014
Mr OP, it is not a mistake that there is so much hype for Neuer to win the balon d'or!
He deserves it! Its quite clear you haven't seen many things he does on the pitch! He is so incredible! He puts on an era defining performance every week!
He is the Messi of goalkeepers! Haven't you heard of his sweeper role? That's even apart from the wonderful saves he makes! Go and watch Roma Vs bayern 1st leg, after watching the highlights of the match, you'll beg the mods to delete this thread! And that match is just a tip of an iceberg!
You are even comparing him to kroos, lmao!
The balon d'or is between him and Cr7
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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 9:46pm On Dec 11, 2014
homesteady:
Mr OP, it is not a mistake that there is so much hype for Neuer to win the balon d'or!
He deserves it! Its quite clear you haven't seen many things he does on the pitch! He is so incredible! He puts on an era defining performance every week!
He is the Messi of goalkeepers! Haven't you heard of his sweeper role? That's even apart from the wonderful saves he makes! Go and watch Roma Vs bayern 1st leg, after watching the highlights of the match, you'll beg the mods to delete this thread! And that match is just a tip of an iceberg!
You are even comparing him to kroos, lmao!
The balon d'or is between him and Cr7
[b]You are laughing at Toni Kroos? That tells a lot. Toni Kroos has been among the best players in the World in recent years. Very underated.
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Stats don’t lie: Toni Kroos was the best player in Brazil, but Lionel Messi wasn’t even in the top ten
Germany’s star midfielder Toni Kroos was statistically the best player in the tournament, according to the Castrol Index, the FIFA approved ranking of World Cup players.

The Bayern Munich play-maker, expected to complete a move to Real Madrid this summer, achieved a stunning score of 9.79 out of 10 for his performances in Brazil.

The criteria for the score includes passes, tackles, ground covered and, of course, goals. The results make for interesting reading.

Here are the top ten, with perhaps the most notable omissions being golden ball winner Lionel Messi, Germany’s captain Philipp Lahm and golden boot winner James Rodriguez.

Toni Kroos (9.79) – the Germany pass master excelled, scoring twice in the 7-1 semi-final victory over Brazil and displaying his creative brilliance throughout the tournament.
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You think Real Madrid were fools buying him? Do you think it is a coincidence that Real Madrid is playing one of the greatest football in the history of the club? [/b]
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 9:51pm On Dec 11, 2014
homesteady:
Mr OP, it is not a mistake that there is so much hype for Neuer to win the balon d'or!
He deserves it! Its quite clear you haven't seen many things he does on the pitch! He is so incredible! He puts on an era defining performance every week!
He is the Messi of goalkeepers! Haven't you heard of his sweeper role? That's even apart from the wonderful saves he makes! Go and watch Roma Vs bayern 1st leg, after watching the highlights of the match, you'll beg the mods to delete this thread! And that match is just a tip of an iceberg!
You are even comparing him to kroos, lmao!
The balon d'or is between him and Cr7
Do you think Manuel Neuer should be ahead of Robben? Please. That guys is not in the top 5 best players in the world today.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by homesteady(m): 10:19pm On Dec 11, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
[b]You are laughing at Toni Kroos? That tells a lot. Toni Kroos has been among the best players in the World in recent years. Very underated.
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Stats don’t lie: Toni Kroos was the best player in Brazil, but Lionel Messi wasn’t even in the top ten
Germany’s star midfielder Toni Kroos was statistically the best player in the tournament, according to the Castrol Index, the FIFA approved ranking of World Cup players.

The Bayern Munich play-maker, expected to complete a move to Real Madrid this summer, achieved a stunning score of 9.79 out of 10 for his performances in Brazil.

The criteria for the score includes passes, tackles, ground covered and, of course, goals. The results make for interesting reading.

Here are the top ten, with perhaps the most notable omissions being golden ball winner Lionel Messi, Germany’s captain Philipp Lahm and golden boot winner James Rodriguez.

Toni Kroos (9.79) – the Germany pass master excelled, scoring twice in the 7-1 semi-final victory over Brazil and displaying his creative brilliance throughout the tournament.
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You think Real Madrid were fools buying him? Do you think it is a coincidence that Real Madrid is playing one of the greatest football in the history of the club? [/b]
Who takes that castrol ranking seriously? if I can remember well, benzema was also in top 10 and some other funny players!
if you want serious players rating go to whoscored.com or sqwaka not one very useless castrol ranking that even FIFA themselves don't take seriously!

So kroos is the reason for madrid current form? a club that just won champions league?
not long ago you were saying that Neuer is not good because madrid trashed them in UCL, was kroos not also part of the bayern team?
I suggest you should start watching football games and stop relying on some shitty articles you reas on the net!
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by homesteady(m): 10:24pm On Dec 11, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Do you think Manuel Neuer should be ahead of Robben? Please. That guys is not in the top 5 best players in the world today.

because he is a keeper? and some nonsense articles you read on the net said so?
Mr, go to youtube and watch Neuer highlights!
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:25pm On Dec 11, 2014
homesteady:


because he is a keeper? and some nonsense articles you read on the net said so?
Mr, go to youtube and watch Neuer highlights!
I am not saying he is not a great Keeper. He is a wonderful keeper. However, I do not see him being rated over the likes of Neymar, Robben, Muller, Kroos, Yaya Toure etc. These guys have been amazing in 2014.
Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 11:28pm On Dec 11, 2014
homesteady:

Who takes that castrol ranking seriously? if I can remember well, benzema was also in top 10 and some other funny players!
if you want serious players rating go to whoscored.com or sqwaka not one very useless castrol ranking that even FIFA themselves don't take seriously!

So kroos is the reason for madrid current form? a club that just won champions league?
not long ago you were saying that Neuer is not good because madrid trashed them in UCL, was kroos not also part of the bayern team?
I suggest you should start watching football games and stop relying on some shitty articles you reas on the net!
Who recognizes Castro ranking? FIFA. They were the official statisticians for the World Cup.

I said, when the Bayern Team is not performing, you see that Neuer is not as classy as he is made. The team does most of the work. People like Kroos and Schweinsteiger (when fit). Manuel Neuer is not the CR7/Messi of Bayern Munich.

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by edi287: 12:24am On Dec 12, 2014
I swear Neuer is slowly starting to get overhyped. Don't get me wrong, he's a superb keeper and is fantastic as a "sweeper keeper", but this talk of him being the greatest keeper of all time really ticks me off

Besides, Courtois performances last season were as good as his(except for the WC i guess). He definitely was not the best player in bayern and German NT.

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Re: Manuel Neuer's Ballon D'or Nomination Is A Joke by dicksj93: 9:58am On Dec 12, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
I am not saying he is not a great Keeper. He is a wonderful keeper. However, I do not see him being rated over the likes of Neymar, Robben, Muller, Kroos, Yaya Toure etc. These guys have been amazing in 2014.
i repeat again...u r just biased....for u,a keeper shud never win d ballon d'or ....yea dats just ur reason for flooring neuer...so anybody real madrid buys is world class..huh?if neuer was available...u rili know how many clubs wil queue up for him?...dat dude is brilliant..in d world cup,in d league even wen he played for schalke..i assume he didnt have as much protection as u described hes got in bayern..wake up and see neuer..if hes there,he deserves and if he goes as far as winnin it,he deserves dat too

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