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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 8:56pm On Dec 18, 2014
Who was the mysterious Melchizedek mentioned only a few times in the Bible? Surprisingly, his name is more of a title than a personal reference. It comes from two Hebrew words,melekandtsedeq. The wordmelekmeans 'king' andtsedeqmeans 'righteousness' (Strong's Concordance #H4442). Because a king is preeminent in his jurisdiction, he had to be preeminent in righteousness. Before reviewing our first scriptural reference, note that this priest in the book of Genesis, chapter 14, was the king of SALEM. The word Salem, as defined by Strong's #H8004, means 'peace.' This makes Melchizedek the "King of Peace" (Hebrews 7:2).
The first scripture referring to this priest is in the book of Genesis chapter 14, near the middle of the chapter: "Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said: 'Blessed be Abram of God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth; And blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.'" (Genesis 14:14, 16-18, NKJV throughout)
The second reference to this priest of God is in the book of Psalms: "The Lord said to my Lord, 'Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool. . . The Lord has sworn and will not relent, 'You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.' " (Psalm 110:1-4)
Did Jesus say He was NOT inherently GOOD?
Jesus said no one, including Himself, is inherently good [righteous]: ". . . 'Why do you call Me good? NO ONE IS GOOD BUT ONE, that is, God.'" (Matthew 19:17). Melchizedek was the epitome of righteousness, and since no human is inherently righteous, it is evident that he could not be human. If he had been human, he would have been the same as Aaron or anyone else, i.e. a sinner. As the King of Righteousness, he was the image of God's Spirit (Colossians 1:15, Hebrews 1:3). He is also in Psalm 10:4.
Malachi refers to Melchizedek indirectly when he said that the SUN of Righteousness would arise with healing in His wings (Malachi 4:2). Malachi did not use the term "SON" for him because that would have suggested that Jesus was in some way a son or a descendant of the priest. This would have implied that the One who became Jesus Christ in the flesh was someone other than the king of Salem.
Was Jesus the
God of the
Old Testament?
Learn story flow
of Bible through
life of Abraham!
Has anyone
seen God?
What Old Testament
prophecies did
Jesus fulfill?
Who wrote the
book of Psalms?
In Hebrews 7, the apostle Paul makes some startling statements about this person. He says: "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him . . . first being translated 'king of righteousness,' and then also king of Salem, meaning 'king of peace,' without father, without mother, with genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life . . ." (Hebrews 7:1-3). Paul made some amazing statements concerning this priest because he was emphasizing his deity. The One who became Jesus Christ is the father of all life except for one human life - His own. The Most High God is the Father of Jesus Christ the Savior (Luke 1:32).
Paul, however, does not state that God was the father of Melchizedek. He is clearly saying that he, like the Most High God, was without parents. Neither of them had beginning of days nor end of life. The two of them had always lived and there had never been a time that each of them had not lived. Jesus was willing to relinquish His immortality (John 10:18) so that He could become not only the King of Righteousness, but also the Lamb of God. Jesus succinctly put it this way: "Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' " (John 8:58).
Jesus' human conception was the fulfillment of prophecy (Psalm 2:7, Hebrews 1:5). Because the Son promoted God's righteousness and hated iniquity, God said to Him "'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter (symbol) of Your kingdom.' " (Hebrews 1:8-9). The man who had been the King of Righteousness became the Son of God and the fulfillment of the scepter promise of Genesis 49:10.
Did he receive an anointing?
Every priest taken from among men is ordained to serve on behalf of men in things pertaining to God so that he may offer gifts and sacrifices for sin. No one takes this honor to himself. God must call him, as he did Aaron (Hebrews 5:1, 4). Christ did not glorify Himself to be made a high priest, but it was said of him: "'You are My Son, today I have begotten You.' As He also says in another place: 'You are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek . . .'" (Hebrews 5:5-6)
The person whom Abraham met served as the Priest of the Most High God. There cannot be two High Priests both holding the same office. Jesus must have been the person who met Abraham, since the only interaction between God and man has been through Jesus. Because He had loved righteousness and hated iniquity, God made Him a Son and anointed Him with the oil of gladness above His brethren (Hebrews 1:9). The word translated "anointed" is the Greekchrio(Strong's Concordance Number #G5548) which refers to contact between the one anointed and the one doing the anointing.
The anointing of Jesus is in Luke 3:22. It occurred when the Holy Spirit (the One who fathered Jesus, Luke 1:35) descending upon Him in a bodily shape like a dove. It was at this anointing that he became the author of salvation to all who obey Him, being called of God as High Priest (Hebrews 5:9-10). Jesus Christ became God's High Priest because perfection and salvation were not attainable through the Levitical priesthood (Hebrews 7:11).
Christ was made a Priest forever by an oath of the Most High God (Hebrews 7:20-21). His righteousness is the one manifested in the true saints of God (Romans 8:4). The church shares in the priesthood of Christ and the resurrected saints will, like Him, forever be kings and priests (Revelation 5:10). Jesus Christ is the one and only Melchizedek, the King of Peace and Righteousness
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by nairaman66(m): 9:00pm On Dec 18, 2014
lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?

Melchizedek was describe in the bible text as King Of Salem. Salem on the bible is describe as a city of God almighty in heaven. When Jesus died and went to heaven, Bod almighty said "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool. This means Jesus is a King in Heaven.

Conclusively, Melchizedek is Jesus Christ who appeared to Abraham when he was returning from (war) the slaughters of kings !!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by raddyworld: 9:01pm On Dec 18, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
Bros When U Said Premarital Sex Doesnt Mean Fornication.I Wonder Bcus When U Start Havin Sex Wit A Lady & Later U Decide Not 2 Date Her Again Bcus Of Some Reasons.Imagine How Many U Are Likely To Disflower B4 U Now C D 1 U Marry.If Ur Sister Is Treated Like Dat Would U Like It.But If U Wait Till Marriage Den No Regret It.Paul Disagreed

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by lanxlot(m): 9:01pm On Dec 18, 2014
ChynoBEATS:
........ Bro's mi ....... He's an Angel na ..... Abi angel dey get papa??...abi angel get beginning??.....
ha! angels get beginning na....de were made.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by lanxlot(m): 9:07pm On Dec 18, 2014
nairaman66:


Melchizedek was describe in the bible text as King Of Salem. Salem on the bible is describe as a city of God almighty in heaven. When Jesus died and went to heaven, Bod almighty said "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies thy footstool. This means Jesus is a King in Heaven.

Conclusively, Melchizedek is Jesus Christ who appeared to Abraham when he was returning from (war) the slaughters of kings !!
ha! are u tryna say dat Christ came to earth met Abraham n ascended? den came back again to earth 4 redemption?
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by nairaman66(m): 9:11pm On Dec 18, 2014
lanxlot:
ha! are u tryna say dat Christ came to earth met Abraham n ascended? den came back again to earth 4 redemption?

Yes! Jesus Christ did a lot of miracles when the children of Israelites where going to the promised land. He was the rock that provided then with water when they were dying of thirst at Mt. Horeb.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by nairaman66(m): 9:13pm On Dec 18, 2014
vamioniwon:
Who was the mysterious Melchizedek mentioned only a few times in the Bible? Surprisingly, his name is more of a title than a personal reference. It comes from two Hebrew words,melekandtsedeq. The wordmelekmeans 'king' andtsedeqmeans 'righteousness' (Strong's Concordance #H4442). Because a king is preeminent in his jurisdiction, he had to be preeminent in righteousness. Before reviewing our first scriptural reference, note that this priest in the book of Genesis, chapter 14, was the king of SALEM. The word Salem, as defined by Strong's #H8004, means 'peace.' This makes Melchizedek the "King of Peace" (Hebrews 7:2).
The first scripture referring to this priest is in the book of Genesis chapter 14, near the middle of the chapter: "Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said: 'Blessed be Abram of God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth; And blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.'" (Genesis 14:14, 16-18, NKJV throughout)
The second reference to this priest of God is in the book of Psalms: "The Lord said to my Lord, 'Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool. . . The Lord has sworn and will not relent, 'You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.' " (Psalm 110:1-4)
Did Jesus say He was NOT inherently GOOD?
Jesus said no one, including Himself, is inherently good [righteous]: ". . . 'Why do you call Me good? NO ONE IS GOOD BUT ONE, that is, God.'" (Matthew 19:17). Melchizedek was the epitome of righteousness, and since no human is inherently righteous, it is evident that he could not be human. If he had been human, he would have been the same as Aaron or anyone else, i.e. a sinner. As the King of Righteousness, he was the image of God's Spirit (Colossians 1:15, Hebrews 1:3). He is also in Psalm 10:4.
Malachi refers to Melchizedek indirectly when he said that the SUN of Righteousness would arise with healing in His wings (Malachi 4:2). Malachi did not use the term "SON" for him because that would have suggested that Jesus was in some way a son or a descendant of the priest. This would have implied that the One who became Jesus Christ in the flesh was someone other than the king of Salem.
Was Jesus the
God of the
Old Testament?
Learn story flow
of Bible through
life of Abraham!
Has anyone
seen God?
What Old Testament
prophecies did
Jesus fulfill?
Who wrote the
book of Psalms?
In Hebrews 7, the apostle Paul makes some startling statements about this person. He says: "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him . . . first being translated 'king of righteousness,' and then also king of Salem, meaning 'king of peace,' without father, without mother, with genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life . . ." (Hebrews 7:1-3). Paul made some amazing statements concerning this priest because he was emphasizing his deity. The One who became Jesus Christ is the father of all life except for one human life - His own. The Most High God is the Father of Jesus Christ the Savior (Luke 1:32).
Paul, however, does not state that God was the father of Melchizedek. He is clearly saying that he, like the Most High God, was without parents. Neither of them had beginning of days nor end of life. The two of them had always lived and there had never been a time that each of them had not lived. Jesus was willing to relinquish His immortality (John 10:18) so that He could become not only the King of Righteousness, but also the Lamb of God. Jesus succinctly put it this way: "Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.' " (John 8:58).
Jesus' human conception was the fulfillment of prophecy (Psalm 2:7, Hebrews 1:5). Because the Son promoted God's righteousness and hated iniquity, God said to Him "'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter (symbol) of Your kingdom.' " (Hebrews 1:8-9). The man who had been the King of Righteousness became the Son of God and the fulfillment of the scepter promise of Genesis 49:10.
Did he receive an anointing?
Every priest taken from among men is ordained to serve on behalf of men in things pertaining to God so that he may offer gifts and sacrifices for sin. No one takes this honor to himself. God must call him, as he did Aaron (Hebrews 5:1, 4). Christ did not glorify Himself to be made a high priest, but it was said of him: "'You are My Son, today I have begotten You.' As He also says in another place: 'You are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek . . .'" (Hebrews 5:5-6)
The person whom Abraham met served as the Priest of the Most High God. There cannot be two High Priests both holding the same office. Jesus must have been the person who met Abraham, since the only interaction between God and man has been through Jesus. Because He had loved righteousness and hated iniquity, God made Him a Son and anointed Him with the oil of gladness above His brethren (Hebrews 1:9). The word translated "anointed" is the Greekchrio(Strong's Concordance Number #G5548) which refers to contact between the one anointed and the one doing the anointing.
The anointing of Jesus is in Luke 3:22. It occurred when the Holy Spirit (the One who fathered Jesus, Luke 1:35) descending upon Him in a bodily shape like a dove. It was at this anointing that he became the author of salvation to all who obey Him, being called of God as High Priest (Hebrews 5:9-10). Jesus Christ became God's High Priest because perfection and salvation were not attainable through the Levitical priesthood (Hebrews 7:11).
Christ was made a Priest forever by an oath of the Most High God (Hebrews 7:20-21). His righteousness is the one manifested in the true saints of God (Romans 8:4). The church shares in the priesthood of Christ and the resurrected saints will, like Him, forever be kings and priests (Revelation 5:10). Jesus Christ is the one and only Melchizedek, the King of Peace and Righteousness

You are very correct and a pretty detailed answer!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by timota(m): 9:15pm On Dec 18, 2014
lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?
What some people fail to include is that melchizedek priesthood continues forever.Jesus said in john 8:56 that Abraham saw his day and was glad.And Christ priesthood continues forever.Note that before the birth of Christ He has been coming to the world He was the rock that provided water to the israelite in the wilderness. 1cor 10:4
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Malawian(m): 9:25pm On Dec 18, 2014
lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?
we see Christ as a priest like that of Melchizedek.

Christi di nwe nu,
ukochukwu ebe ebe
......
dika melchizedek

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Malawian(m): 9:32pm On Dec 18, 2014
Christ is an Everlasting Priest, LIKE unto the order of Melchizedek.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Malawian(m): 9:35pm On Dec 18, 2014
vooks:

First Melchizedek is not called High Priest but Priest. Jesus is the High Priest.
They can't hold the same office at the same time. Who said they did?

bros, Melchizedek, whoever or whatever he is, is an Everelasting Priest !
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by naijaobi(m): 9:41pm On Dec 18, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
Guy am sorry to say this, but you are very stup!d. False teacher. I pity people who listen to you. tufiakwa!
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by MostHigh: 9:56pm On Dec 18, 2014
[quote author=naijaobi post=29005729]
Guy am sorry to say this, but you are very stup!d. False teacher. I pity people who listen to you. tufiakwa![/quo
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by MostHigh: 10:06pm On Dec 18, 2014
Malawian:

bros, Melchizedek, whoever or whatever he is, is an Everelasting Priest !

Very true.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Fnights: 10:40pm On Dec 18, 2014
mbaemeka:


1. Abraham was not subject to any King. The Jews saw him as the greatest man that ever was. So Paul is telling them how Jesus was greater than Abraham and how it is doctrinally sound even according to the books of Genesis and Psalms that they (Jews) still hold dearly to by showing them that there was another 'man', a priest, who according to the scriptures, was greater than Abraham. So much so that Abraham gave him a tithe and received blessings from him. Paul argues that that Man- Melchizedek was the first in the line of a type of priests that Jesus came after. These priests have an endless life. It is very lucidly put that even though that Melchizedek wasn't Christ himself. He was SIMILAR to Christ and we know why: CHRIST WAS REFERRED TO AS THE CHILD OF THE HOLY GHOST, while to me Melchizedek was a manly form that the HOLY GHOST took after while he visited earth. That is why he can be regarded as KING OF PEACE whereas Jesus was referred to as PRINCE OF PEACE.

2. How can Jesus come after the order of an ordinary man? It is actually Heretical to suggest so.

mbaemeka:

Hebrews 7:4, 7 KJV

Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

The scriptures ^^ tell us why he must have been great. Abraham met many other kings...he even rejected their gifts and said so that they wouldn't claim they made him rich. Yet he decided to accept word-of-mouth blessings from an ordinary man? Abraham was a prophet man. A prophet of God. He would only bow to a higher spiritual authority. Now you can tell us what type of spiritual authority could be higher than Abraham's. The same Abraham who had a covenant with God to usher in a savior.

2. Hope you know that it was the HOLY SPIRIT that was the actual creator of the world. Hope you know he is the doer of the spoken word. Hope you know he is the power of God. So when scriptures tell you how Jesus was conceived, you have to understand who actually metted out the conceiving. Maybe you should check the KJV of that verse you quoted to understand why the MSG mistranslated.

Brother, you are on point. I've gone through most of the posts and yours is as clear as day. You must have a deep understanding of spiritual things. The King of Salem was just one of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit in the Old testament. I recently found this out. Up until recently, I thought he was just a man.

Some say Melchizedek is Jesus. That could be true but I really doubt. Jesus never at any point existed outside of the Father as a separate being(both spiritually nor physically). From the foundations of the World, He was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was and is the very life of God. That life became flesh and dwelt among us. Paul tried to liken his present day ministry to that of one that existed(and still exist), who was superior to Abraham - the one the jews hold highly. This was so eloquently stated by mbaemeka.
Jesus obtained this ministry the day He was resurrected and anointed High Priest of the Most High God. He had never operated in this ministry before. Prior to reading the posts of mbaemeka I wasn't too clear on these things but its becoming clearer now.

My prayer is that we may all receive deep, intimate understanding of the Supreme being who loves us soo much.

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Jasperwhizz(m): 10:50pm On Dec 18, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.


Dont forget that GOD warns that we should not defile the marriage bed.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by ehisdan(m): 10:52pm On Dec 18, 2014
Mechizedek was like jesus christ in heaven but not Jesus christ. He was send by God to earth to be the judge on earth. That was why he was made high priest. He was given the power to judge the earth, through his judgement that sin might be forgiven. He came to the earth by God himself not by any man. That is why the bible record it that he has no begining nor end, he was never born of any woman or man. The reason he could not continue his mission is because he was a spirit not human. God saw that it was not working as propose, for the sin of the world or human to be forgiven it has to be true human i.e flesh and blood. And jesus christ happened to be only one ready to laid down his life for it, that is why Jesus christ has to come through human being by being given birth to. So mechizedek is not Jesus christ.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Obeby(m): 11:04pm On Dec 18, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
Are you kidding me? Can u xplain to me further please?
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Malawian(m): 11:09pm On Dec 18, 2014
my understanding of what/who Melchizedek is.

first, GOD is GOD. HE is without beginning. HE is without end. HIS nature as GOD warrants the existence of a priest to serve him. since GOD doesn't change, such a nature then warrants the eternal nature of HIS priest.

if you follow my argument, you will see that Melchizedek is a spirit priest. he can poses a human, and i argue that it is he who is currently and finally possessing Christ the eternal priest.

i might be wrong though.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by lanxlot(m): 11:19pm On Dec 18, 2014
nairaman66:


Yes! Jesus Christ did a lot of miracles when the children of Israelites where going to the promised land. He was the rock that provided then with water when they were dying of thirst at Mt. Horeb.
issorait, I tot it Was d hardiwork of d fada. tuk charge in d OT, Christ .....MATTHEW - JOHN, the Holy Spirit. ACTS-REVELATION. Well, de are indistinguishable Kinda.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 11:40pm On Dec 18, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
If premarital sex is not a sin of fornication please tell what kind of sin is premarital sex?
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Royver(m): 11:42pm On Dec 18, 2014
lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.(note foster father, not real father.)
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.(cool, but in the time of Melchizedek, Mary wasnt born.)
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.(YOu are comparing two different times. Melchizedek appeared in the old testament. Jesus in the new. Both had somewhat differing missions pertaining to the times but that doesnt mean they werent the same person. Stop trying to put the Almighty in a box.)
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?

Personally, I think Melchizedek was God himself, walking among men.





Frankly though, it doesn't concern us as Christians. Don't be distracted.

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by iamord(m): 11:44pm On Dec 18, 2014
He is a person that brrings to life the truth of reincarnation. But they try to cover it up in our generation

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by okzcorp: 12:02am On Dec 19, 2014
Royver:


Personally, I think Melchizedek was God himself, walking among men.





Frankly though, it doesn't concern us as Christians. Don't be distracted.
I think so, a friend thinks same too. So we are three who think he was God, can we conclude he is God walking among men?

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Gabson91(m): 12:03am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
It is a sin sir, take it or leave. I hope you are not one of the tares Jesus was referring to in matt 13:24. Stop this false teaching n dnt take God's patience for weakness.
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by peedeeasobie(m): 2:34am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:
Melchizedek is not Christ. I guarantee you, the reason false teachers now twist scriptures to say he is Christ is because they still want to collect tithe using the example of Abraham AFTER THEIR LAW TITHE ARGUMENTS FAILED FLAT IN THE FACE OF SCRIPTURES.

That scripture in Hebrews is as clear as day light. Only dishonest folks will twist that scripture and dumb people will not ask questions. Thank God you can ask questions and the answers are obvious. Now, give me few minutes, I will explain the part that says, "having neither beginning of days nor end of life" to you, it's just one of the KJV English that confuse folks and many pastors know this, they use it to their own advantage or better still read many other translations. The rest, of #1-3, you got it RIGHT.



with respect sir, you haven't said anything!
you have subtly condemned other people's opinion...
pls tell us, who is he?
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by OkekeChristian(m): 2:52am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.

WHAT IS FORNICATION PLEASE? IN LAYMAN TERMS TOO!

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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by OkekeChristian(m): 3:01am On Dec 19, 2014
[size=14pt]Hebrews 7: 3

There is no record of his father or mother or any of is ancestors - no beginning or end to his life. he remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God.

I have one key question however, to people who pay tithes:

If Abraham paid tithe to a priest, the children of Israel paid their tithes to the priests;(mind you in all of this, there was no record of A PRIEST PAYING THE TITHE)we are(or rather, I am) referred to as a "royal priesthood" or priests. My question is, WHY SHOULD I, A PRIEST PAY TITHE? AND TO WHOM, A FELLOW PRIEST?

Now when you are able to give me a befitting answer, I give you the second question related to this.

AGAIN, ...or let me leave this one, until Goshen360 explains what his own understanding of "fornication" is.
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Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by vooks: 3:16am On Dec 19, 2014
If he is everlasting priest, why was there need to put Jesus in that office since it had an everlasting occupant?
Malawian:

bros, Melchizedek, whoever or whatever he is, is an Everelasting Priest !
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by Nobody: 4:31am On Dec 19, 2014
Goshen360:


I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.
can you pls refer me to the NL link where the thread was discussed
Re: N'landers, Who Is Melchizedek As Described In Hebrew 7vs1-3? by hushmail: 5:09am On Dec 19, 2014
mechisadek is simply an Order for priesthood

an it is said so clearly in d bible

he is not a beins


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