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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 6:27pm On Dec 18, 2014
aieo:
Accusations you say, when judges had declared them guilty according to goal.com ?


http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/16/ander-herrera-match-fixing-manchester-united-spain-real-zaragoza-levante wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 6:31pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


they all have water carriers too.
oscar + ramirez + mikel(chelsea)
mangala + milner(city)

madrid are almost flawless but then their league is weak. we dunno how those pretty players of theirs would hold up in a league like ours.



or play blind in the back 3 like he did for holland to accommodate carrick in the midfield.
Huh? Blind was a left wingback for the Holland team.
If one would have to play in the back, then it will be Carrick, which is a good thing because we need a ball playing centre back in defence, especially if we're to deploy 3-5-2 setup

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 6:36pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

Those are not his strength.
His strength are his technical skill e.g ball control, first touch, dribbling.
His vision is also sound. But when it comes to awareness of space, good decision making and consistent passing, he falls short. He's basically a box to box CM.
Don't know why you lot are on the defensive, a box to box midfielder is not a bad thing.
. Théres no way I'm agreeing with you on those.
When comes to threading a through pass accurately when a striker has started his run, only perhaps mata comes close.
There is NOTHING wrong with his decision making and only God knows what exactly u mean by 'awareness of space' undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:40pm On Dec 18, 2014
Michael Carrick has hailed Antonio Valencia as the unsung hero in Manchester United's winning run.

Valencia, 29, has operated as a right wing-back or even a right-back rather than as a winger in United's sequence of six straight victories, while he set up Wayne Rooney's opening goal in the 3-0 win against Liverpool on Sunday.

And Carrick, 33, believes his teammate's speed and unselfishness have made him vital for Louis van Gaal's team.

"Antonio is a pure athlete," Carrick told Inside United. "He is immense. It is the work he does that doesn't get noticed -- things like carrying the ball up the pitch for 30 or 40 yards when you have been defending.

"He takes you up the pitch and defenders just back up because they know about his pace. If he can go down the line, then he is pretty hard to catch. He is a great team player and, when you are playing with him, you certainly appreciate that he is on your team.

"He is pretty much the full package," he added. "He is reserved but determined at the same time. He is quiet, he is pleasant and he is polite.

"He is not somebody who shouts and screams in the changing room but I certainly wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of him. He is stubborn and determined. He has got a real desire to win, like everyone at this club."

[Source: ESPN]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:50pm On Dec 18, 2014
SIRcumalot:

Milner was Man city best player against Everton that guy can do a bit of everything,
Oscar's cross to Hazard for Hull's first goal is impressive for a player that can't pass,
If both this player aren't very good they would have been replaced long ago.

which of young, valencia & fellaini aren't capable of hitting good passes once in a blue moon? milner is animal shyte - he has no football intelligence, he's just there.

oscar can't pass to save his life - 45% pass accuracy in the first half at old trafford. he was that hopeless. they are water carriers, as soon as jose finds a replacement, oscar will be off.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:53pm On Dec 18, 2014
Omo, selection headache for Van Gaal o, I don't know what will happen o.

Hmmmm, Valencia is actually a good player, Van Gaal just discovered a very good position for him, also, in a 4-3-3 setting, V will be cool in the middle, supporting the RB and the guy in front of him, his workrate is crazy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 7:06pm On Dec 18, 2014
PietroRico:
. Théres no way I'm agreeing with you on those.
When comes to threading a through pass accurately when a striker has started his run, only perhaps mata comes close.
There is NOTHING wrong with his decision making and only God knows what exactly u mean by 'awareness of space' undecided

How many assists has Mata managed for us since he was stripped from taking corners and freekick like he did at Chelsea?
And you forgot the part I said Herrera has a sound vision but that's not the decision making I'm talking about. Making the right movement in the midfield and picking the right player are the basic things Playmaking entails..
Playmaking is basically using the brain, it's not just about skills.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 7:08pm On Dec 18, 2014
Val,Carrick,Blind,Fellaini,Fletcher,Mata,Dimaria,Herrera,Young

selection headache 4 Gaal...Only Dimaria is guaranteed of a first team start

what is our best midfield combination??

Coogar,elampiro,Shirley07,nitrogen,sircumalot,PietroRico,Dadehmola,SailorXY,chrisley024,purist,MaziOmenuko
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:13pm On Dec 18, 2014
Odunharry:
Val,Carrick,Blind,Fellaini,Fletcher,Mata,Dimaria,Herrera,Young

selection headache 4 Gaal...Only Dimaria is guaranteed of a first team start

what is our best midfield combination??

Coogar,elampiro,Shirley07,nitrogen,sircumalot,PietroRico,Dadehmola,SailorXY
Which Fletcher
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 7:16pm On Dec 18, 2014
chrisley024:
Which Fletcher
lol...we knw 4 now he cant make the starting XI but he is still our player..

Aside Dimaria,which 2/3 players do u tink should join him in d middle?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:17pm On Dec 18, 2014
If Falcao keeps being a 15mins player, then we should better release him and call Chicha back.

You don't pay around 300k to a benchwarmer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:17pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

How many assists has Mata managed for us since he was stripped from taking corners and freekick like he did at Chelsea?
And you forgot the part I said Herrera has a sound vision but that's not the decision making I'm talking about. Making the right movement in the midfield and picking the right player are the basic things Playmaking entails..
Playmaking is basically using the brain, it's not just about skills.

the number of assists is irrelevant cos it depends on the player mata musta passed to. your question should be - how many chances has mata created since joining united?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:18pm On Dec 18, 2014
chrisley024:
Which Fletcher
the one from ivory coast grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:22pm On Dec 18, 2014
Odunharry:

lol...we knw 4 now he cant make the starting XI but he is still our player..

Aside Dimaria,which 2/3 players do u tink should join him in d middle?
We've got lots of games this month and next. Everyone will get his chance to prove himself.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:23pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

the one from ivory coast grin
K. I thought as much. He should seek for a position in his national team grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 7:29pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


which of young, valencia & fellaini aren't capable of hitting good passes once in a blue moon? milner is animal shyte - he has no football intelligence, he's just there.

oscar can't pass to save his life - 45% pass accuracy in the first half at old trafford. he was that hopeless. they are water carriers, as soon as jose finds a replacement, oscar will be off.
You tend to digest every shit you see on opta.
Let me ask you, how can a player have 45% pass success in the 1st half and eventually come up with 80% at full time?
Even if Oscar had 100% pass success in the 2nd half, he wouldn't have come up with 80% at full time.
Statistically, 45 + 100 = 145; 145/2 = 72.5.
That is, if Oscar had 45% in the 1st half, would come up with only 72.5% at full time, assuming he had 100% pass success in the 2nd half, which is not possible in such an intense match.
So, tell me, where did Oscar get his 80% pass success at full time?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:29pm On Dec 18, 2014
nitrogen:
To be candid, we have many players, geez! And they are good players, Van Gaal's 3-5-2 will fit in two players in each position,

3 at the back, Smalling/Jones, Evans/Mcnair, Blacket/Rojo.

5 in the middle, Valencia/Rafael, Fellaini/Mata, Blind/Carrick, Di Maria/Herrera, Shaw/Young.

2 at the fore-front, Rooney/Januzaj, Vanpersie/Falcao.

And the bench has got one or two youngies, meanwhile, Nani and Harnandez are coming back o. Nawa o!

Abeg, we need just one or two solid defenders or better-still, one defender and one DM, then we can offload Evans and maybe Carrick.

Seriously, this reminds me of 2007/2008/2009, too many players, infact, I see united in second position or even winning the league, bar injuries sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:32pm On Dec 18, 2014
chrisley024:
If Falcao keeps being a 15mins player, then we should better release him and call Chicha back.

You don't pay around 300k to a benchwarmer.
Wilson won't keep him on the bench, that is clear. I believe van Gaal is trying to manage his return better this time to avoid a quick return to the physio. if he can be fit for the rest of our campaign, there's no reason he can't grab +16 goals.

+ it will be a miracle to see Hernandez in United jersey again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:41pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

You tend to digest every shit you see on opta.
Let me ask you, how can a player have 45% pass success in the 1st half and eventually come up with 80% at full time?
Even if Oscar had 100% pass success in the 2nd half, he wouldn't have come up with 80% at full time.

why are you talking like an amateur?
a player can have 0% in the first half and have 90% overall in the second half. do you think they do average of first & 2nd halves to get the true possession stats? grin

if herrera completes none of the 10 passes he attempted in the first half & then completes 48 out of 50 passes he makes in the second half, his overall pass completion will be 80%.



Statistically, 45 + 100 = 145; 145/2 = 72.5.
That is, if Oscar had 45% in the 1st half, would come up with only 72.5% at full time, assuming he had 100% pass success in the 2nd half, which is not possible in such an intense match.
So, tell me, where did Oscar get his 80% pass success at full time?

that is not how it's added, madam.
it's never the average of the 2 halves. they just add all the passes made throughout the game.

i already used an example up there.
0/10 + 48/50 = 48/60 = 80%

your own way of calculating it will arrive at 48%. shirley, i am starting to think you are a spambot.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 7:54pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


why are you talking like an amateur?
a player can have 0% in the first half and have 90% overall in the second half. do you think they do average of first & 2nd halves to get the true possession stats? grin

if herrera completes none of the 10 passes he attempted in the first half & then completes 48 out of 50 passes he makes in the second half, his overall pass completion will be 80%.




that is not how it's added, madam.
it's never the average of the 2 halves. they just add all the passes made throughout the game.

i already used an example up there.
0/10 + 48/50 = 48/60 = 80%

your own way of calculating it will arrive at 48%. shirley, i am starting to think you are a spambot.
That's bullshit.
To arrive at the overrall percentage, both 1st and 2nd half stat of the player need to be added, except if the player was a sub. Incase of a sub, only the minutes he spent on the pitch is used.
You should get your fact right.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:54pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

Wilson won't keep him on the bench, that is clear. I believe van Gaal is trying to manage his return better this time to avoid a quick return to the physio. if he can be fit for the rest of our campaign, there's no reason he can't grab +16 goals.

+ it will be a miracle to see Hernandez in United jersey again.
Well, Juve want Falcao
-Daily mail.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 7:56pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


why are you talking like an amateur?
a player can have 0% in the first half and have 90% overall in the second half. do you think they do average of first & 2nd halves to get the true possession stats? grin

if herrera completes none of the 10 passes he attempted in the first half & then completes 48 out of 50 passes he makes in the second half, his overall pass completion will be 80%.




that is not how it's added, madam.
it's never the average of the 2 halves. they just add all the passes made throughout the game.

i already used an example up there.
0/10 + 48/50 = 48/60 = 80%

your own way of calculating it will arrive at 48%. shirley, i am starting to think you are a spambot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 7:57pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


why are you talking like an amateur?
a player can have 0% in the first half and have 90% overall in the second half. do you think they do average of first & 2nd halves to get the true possession stats? grin

if herrera completes none of the 10 passes he attempted in the first half & then completes 48 out of 50 passes he makes in the second half, his overall pass completion will be 80%.




that is not how it's added, madam.
it's never the average of the 2 halves. they just add all the passes made throughout the game.

i already used an example up there.
0/10 + 48/50 = 48/60 = 80%

your own way of calculating it will arrive at 48%. shirley, i am starting to think you are a spambot.
That's bullshit.
To arrive at the overrall percentage, both 1st and 2nd half stat of the player need to be added, except if the player was a sub. Incase of a sub, only the minutes he spent on the pitch is used.
You should get your fact right.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:58pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

That's bullshit.
To arrive at the overrall percentage, both 1st and 2nd half stat of the player need to be added, except if the player was a sub. Incase of a sub, only the minutes he spent on the pitch is used.
You should get your fact right.

you dunno your math or you are deliberately trolling.

a player has a poor first half where he completed 3 passes out of 10 attempted at half time. he then gets his mojo back in the second half and completes 45 out of his 50 attempted passes....

his overall stats will be....

passes completed = 45 + 3 = 48
passes attempted = 10 + 50 = 60

pass accuracy = 48/60 = 80%

you cannot just average the 2 halves - that's an amateur at work cos it means you are assuming oscar attempted the same number of passes in both halves.

come - what was your grade in SSCE further math?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 8:28pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


you dunno your math or you are deliberately trolling.

a player has a poor first half where he completed 3 passes out of 10 attempted at half time. he then gets his mojo back in the second half and completes 45 out of his 50 attempted passes....

his overall stats will be....

passes completed = 45 + 3 = 48
passes attempted = 10 + 50 = 60

pass accuracy = 48/60 = 80%

you cannot just average the 2 halves - that's an amateur at work cos it means you are assuming oscar attempted the same number of passes in both halves.

come - what was your grade in SSCE further math?
F9.
Now I understand but you could have said Oscar made few passes in the 1st half. Looking at it, he misplaced the same amount of passes in the 2nd half as he did in the 1st half but to the few passes he made, his pass success.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:31pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

F9.
Now I understand but you could have said Oscar made few passes in the 1st half. Looking at it, he misplaced the same amount of passes in the 2nd half as he did in the 1st half but to the few passes he made, his pass success.

exactly!
percentages are funny. a player who completed 1 pass out of 2 has 50% accuracy even though he made only one faulty pass.

another player that completed 19 passes but one faulty pass will have 95% accuracy even though he had one faulty pass like the other example.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 10:55pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

Wilson won't keep him on the bench, that is clear. I believe van Gaal is trying to manage his return better this time to avoid a quick return to the physio. if he can be fit for the rest of our campaign, there's no reason he can't grab +16 goals.

+ it will be a miracle to see Hernandez in United jersey again.
+16 goals? Where? Loooooool

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 11:16pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

How many assists has Mata managed for us since he was stripped from taking corners and freekick like he did at Chelsea?
And you forgot the part I said Herrera has a sound vision but that's not the decision making I'm talking about. Making the right movement in the midfield and picking the right player are the basic things Playmaking entails..
Playmaking is basically using the brain, it's not just about skills.
this man stop trolling joor.. We prefer your elampiro moniker... End transmission
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tval(m): 11:53pm On Dec 18, 2014
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:42am On Dec 19, 2014
leggo:
this man stop trolling joor.. We prefer your elampiro moniker... End transmission

You don't know what you are saying. When Shirley first came on board, she picked a hot fight with me over Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge. Then it extended to Rooney, Van Persie and Walcott. At the end, I gave her a devastating blow and she disappeared for months.

If you worship Mata, go ahead and keep worshiping him. Stop associating my user name with every negative comment about Mata. I support Shirley that Mata doesn't influence games. Although I like him for the fact he can dig us out sometimes.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 6:23am On Dec 19, 2014
elampiro:


You don't know what you are saying. When Shirley first came on board, she picked a hot fight with me over Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge. Then it extended to Rooney, Van Persie and Walcott. At the end, I gave her a devastating bow and she disappeared for months.

If you worship Mata, go ahead and keep worshiping him. Stop associating my user name with every negative comment about Mata. I support Shirley that Mata doesn't influence games. Although I like him for the fact he can dig us out sometimes.
Ok Bro..................
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:39am On Dec 19, 2014
The Marathon
There will be games for everyone:
Tomorrow - Aston Villa (A).

Dec. 26th - Newcastle(H).

Dec. 28th - Spurs (A).

Jan. 1st - Stoke (A).

Jan. 4th - Yeovil (A) (FA Cup).

Jan. 11th - S'ton (H).

Jan. 17th - QPR (A).

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