ROSSIKE:


My friend please shut your trap. So we should all keep quiet and accept that ''2000'' Nigerians were killed when that is a bold faced LIE? No. 150 were killed. If that correction upsets you, go jump in a river. In Europe and America over 100 million died through mass slaughter and conflict just this last century. What mayhem surpasses that? How many people there resigned or were ''held responsible'' for ''security failings''?

Qiewz11:

You said Afghanistan and not America. Moreso, American soldiers did not complain of insufficient equipment and wrong intelligence and most importantly, they didn't mutiny..

ROSSIKE:


Iraq-Bound Troops Confront Rumsfeld Over Lack of Armor

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/08/international/middleeast/08cnd-rumsfeld.html?_r=0

AMP BUEHRING, Kuwait, Dec. 8 - In an extraordinary exchange at this remote desert camp, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld found himself on the defensive today, fielding pointed questions from Iraq-bound troops who complained that they were being sent into combat with insufficient protection and aging equipment.

Specialist Thomas Wilson, a scout with a Tennessee National Guard unit scheduled to roll into Iraq this week, said soldiers had to scrounge through local landfills here for pieces of rusty scrap metal and bulletproof glass - what they called "hillbilly armor" - to bolt on to their trucks for protection against roadside bombs in Iraq.

"Why don't we have those resources readily available to us?" Specialist Wilson asked Mr. Rumsfeld, drawing cheers and applause from many of the 2,300 troops assembled in a cavernous hangar here to meet the secretary. Mr. Rumsfeld responded that the military was producing extra armor for Humvees and trucks as fast as possible.

A few minutes later, a soldier from the Idaho National Guard's 116th Armor Cavalry Brigade asked Mr. Rumsfeld what he and the Army were doing "to address shortages and antiquated equipment" National Guard soldiers heading to Iraq were struggling with.

ROSSIKE:


And ''Jolie'' is the highly acclaimed military expert who just knows what it takes to defeat a terrorist group like Boko haram?

DUNCE.

ROSSIKE:


And ''Jolie'' is the highly acclaimed military expert who just knows what it takes to defeat a terrorist group like Boko haram?

DUNCE.

emmatok:


What is this one saying.
Do you mean nobody should take responsibility for unfortunate deaths of Nigerians.

The Defence spokesperson, Chris Olukolade, is not even sure about the figure.

saharachic:


When i see ROSSIKE, all i see is PROPAGANDA.

now ask yourself, did the U.S address the shortage of equipment? Damn sure they did.

Qiewz11:

You don't have to be an expert to identify a failure. And being an imp that you are, you fail to realize that she highlighted the 'impunity' at which they carry out their attacks and with the attendant casualty figures.
You don't have to be an expert to realize that Boko Haram have grown more bold, sophisticated and deadly when compared to the recent past. If you don't realize that, it is either you are in oblivion or you are utterly stupid.

saharachic:


[size=18pt]When i see ROSSIKE, all i see is PROPAGANDA.

now ask yourself, did the U.S address the shortage of equipment? Damn sure they did. But what of Gej's military, up till now they still complain of inadequate weaponry to fight boko haram. Do not use a strand of hair to mess up the full bunch. [/size]

[quote author=ROSSIKE post=29797710]

There is a WAR going on. What ''take responsibility'' nonsense are you on about? When did Bush or Obama ''take responsibility'' for the lives of US soldiers lost in Iraq and Afghanistan or in New York on 9/11? Was it not simply a ''blame the terrorists who caused these crimes'' response? In your case it is automatically the GOVT'S fault when BH kill people. Is that not stupidity and madness on your part?

At least they tried to count the casualties, unlike the Americans who ''don't do body counts'' according to their own generals.

ROSSIKE:


Please spare us Angeina Jolie's ''military expertise''. YES YOU DO need to be an expert to identify a military failure. A layman civilian goat like you sitting on his fat ars.e behind a computer CANNOT KNOW whose primary fault it is when Boko Haram commit their atrocities. Neither can pampered Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie sitting thousands of miles away in Beverly Hills.

ROSSIKE:


Please spare us Angeina Jolie's ''military expertise''. YES YOU DO need to be an expert to identify a military failure. A layman civilian goat like you sitting on his fat ars.e behind a computer CANNOT KNOW whose primary fault it is when Boko Haram commit their atrocities. Neither can pampered Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie sitting thousands of miles away in Beverly Hills.

Qiewz11:

Oh boy, you really need a deliverance of heavenly proportions.
What is the function of the military? To protect the sovereignity of a country and its interest. When some 'ragtag' terrorists starts hoisting flags in their captured towns in a country, then there is a breach in the sovereignity of that nation. Do you have to be expert to know that?

emmatok:


LOL, Do you really mean what you wrote here?

Simple answer= the US government went after the terrorist, and today most off them are dead.

Its a known fact that US government always take responsibility for the lives of Americans.

At least they tried to count the casualties, unlike the Americans who ''don't do body counts'' according to their own generals.

LOL, how do you know they tried to count the casualties. when they are all speaking from Abuja.?

ROSSIKE:


And the Nigerian government should worsen the breach by launching a civil war in their own territory, correct? Do you realise that if the Nigerian military decides to go all out against BH, it would lead to mass civilian casualties that would make the present 100 per month seem like child's play? Do BH wear uniforms? Are they not civilians who melt into their society? How exactly do you expect the military to launch an assault against the entire Maiduguri or Kano by dropping bombs, launching missiles, and killing 20,000 people in one night as will be required for a 'total assault'? What are the implications of such an escalation? See, this is why we say that people like you and Angelina Jolie should STFU and let those who are trained to do this stuff do their stuff.

ROSSIKE:


Really? Ever heard of ISIS? Why are people still dying in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, if ''most of them are dead''?




Who took responsibility for the security 'lapses' that allowed 9/11 to happen, killing 3000 Americans?




How do you know they were in Abuja? You saw them from your dirty balcony? You don't know we have thousands of officers and troops stationed in the north east as we speak? Ignorant Dullard.

Qiewz11:

If not failure intelligence, how could grown so formidable and deadly without being noticed? Afterall, what is the function of the intelligence apparatus of the country? You are saying that they mixed with the civilian population, is it not in this population that their founder, Muhammed, was caught and killed?
But as they say, 'In the times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.' It is because of goons like you that our country is on a backward progression.
When those in the position of responsibility err, it is duty of those that put them there to call them to order. But to a punk like you, it does not concern you as long it does not affect you. So pathetic.

ROSSIKE:


Really? Ever heard of ISIS? Why are people still dying in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, if ''most of them are dead''?




Who took responsibility for the security 'lapses' that allowed 9/11 to happen, killing 3000 Americans?




How do you know they were in Abuja? You saw them from your dirty balcony? You don't know we have thousands of officers and troops stationed in the north east as we speak? Ignorant Dullard.

Qiewz11:

From the way you talk, it is obvious that your reasoning faculty is blurred. After 9/11, how many terrorist activities have ever occured there that is bold enough to undermine there security apparatchik?

Our military is being overrun in an alarming frequency, and the casualty of soldiers and civilians alike are on the rise, competing in hundreds. Tell me is that not the sign of failure?

ROSSIKE:


You don't give a DAMN about other Nigerians. If you did, you would not advocate for an all-out military assault that would inevitably lead to mass civilian casualties. Go to Iraq and see what has become of that country due to the US dropping bombs and missiles indiscriminately there for the past 10 years in their bid to ''hunt down terrorists''. Over 1.2 million Iraqis were killed. Is that what you are advocating for Nigeria? Meanwhile, despite all that, Iraq today is WORSE than before the US invasion, with ISIS and others getting ready to share the spoils of territory, and bombs going off all over the place. Is that what you want for Nigeria? Must be! Guess what? You will not get it.

ROSSIKE:

There is no insurrection in the USA, and if there was, the US govt would be doing everything to de-escalate it, not escalate it, as you're demanding of Nigeria. No government oversees the decimation lf its own territory.



Our military is being ''overrun'' only in your head and Angelina Jolie's head. Your 'expert' military solution will see the death toll of 'hundreds' which you consider a ''failure'', rise to 'hundreds of thousands', or maybe even 'millions', which to you will be 'success', which is why it is best we all ignore you.

I bet if you or your family lived in Kano, Maiduguri, or Damaturu, you will not be advocating for an all-out military assault.

ROSSIKE:


Really? Ever heard of ISIS? Why are people still dying in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, if ''most of them are dead''?
.

Who took responsibility for the security 'lapses' that allowed 9/11 to happen, killing 3000 Americans?

How do you know they were in Abuja? You saw them from your dirty balcony? You don't know we have thousands of officers and troops stationed in the north east as we speak? Ignorant Dullard

Qiewz11:

Who is advocating for an all out military action? Were Boko Haram activites as frequent and deadly as this before the declaration of state of emergency? Is the declaration not meant to pacify the terrorism? Why then are the attacks increasing? Is this not a failure of leadership? Whose responsibility is this failure?

emmatok:


Old MAN ISIS is a new terrorist movement, just like BOKO-HARAM, when last did you hear from Bin-ladin and other 9/11 attacks.

The US government took responsibilities for 9/11, and all classified security document about lapses that led to the attack were revealed at hearings.

Duh, it took our government 9days to talk about BAGA massacre, with all the officers and troops stationed in the north east.
While foreign news agencies already covering the BAGA issue.

Till date our President is yet to talk about the BAGA issue.

[quote author=ROSSIKE post=29800327] See this one. ISIS are a terrorist group. Many of their recruits are former Al Qaeda militants. The terrorists may have changed their name, but they've gone nowhere. ISIS is even stronger than Al Qaeda, having captured swathes of territory across Iraq and Syria. Is that not a US/UK ''failure'' despite all the bombs they've dropped there, for this to be happening?? If it was the Nigerian govt now, you would have called them all sorts of names.

And name ONE PERSON that was punished for those 'lapses'. Or even reprimanded. JUST ONE.

ROSSIKE:


What about the people in whose midst the terrorists dwell? How come they don't share any responsibility in your book? If you are not calling for all out military action against BH, then WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU CALLING FOR? You think you can defeat them by shouting abracadabra?? How does the US fight terrorists? is it not by razing down the whole place in a hail of bombs and missiles? What other method are you advocating, Mr military expert?