Na we wey dey SW here dey suffer light pass, I remember 2yrs ago wen I rep my sch in one competion like dat in New bussa in Niger state, for d whole town I don't c a single generator, their lite no dey go, I ask a guy say their lite no dey go? he said d lite no go at all, say even if dey carry d lite in d next 30sec d lite will b back.......Abeg aboki don dey cheat us for diz country since 404AD wen Gladiator competition Was put to stop..

Nice one ayobase. I was going to bookmark this thread till I started seeing i.diots making political statements. Can't the mods just hide those statements? Mtchew...

The reasons for the epileptic power situation are infrastructure based. The current infrastructure is outdated, dilapidated and inadequate for generating enough electricity as well as for distributing it.
I don't know how the OP thinks he has addressed the issues. The poor maintenance culture and government myopia is responsible for every of the shortcomings of this country

Another reason is Nairalanders hugging transformers

lomomike:

Must you derail this thread with your childish political rants. The so called clueless individual is much more successful than you, older than you, has achieved only what a few has achieved, and what millions dream of achieving.
Grow up and stop being silly and childish.

How do you measure success, f.ool?

Ghadafi, Idi Amin, Charles Taylor were also head of states, you know.

Stop digging foolishry from your shitcanal.

doug:
-Opening: Switching on
-Closing: Switching off
-Load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 2 or more Feeders with a
common Power Transformer.
-Local load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 1 Feeder.

Good job Sir but I think there is a mix up in the definition given for Opening and Closing a feeder.

Thought as much. Good observation bro.

It doesn't stop me from cursing them

The only reason people bypass their meters is because of the fraudulent bill PHCN use to bring to people's house. Bills you wonder how they arrived at.

I used to pay my bills upfront before until PHCN show me pepper. Before I don't pay more than 1000 naia a month. Because of that, I may pay upto 8000 naira on a bill just to avoid going to pay every month. So, at a point in time, the amount of credit I have with PHCN have risen to almost 12000 naira.

Around August of that year, the bill suddenly rise to 4500 naria by placing my bill on estimated bills which has not been so before. Within 3 months, the credit I have turns to debit.

I went to PHCN office to lodge a complain about the estimated bills been brought to my house. The readings on my meter do not tally with the bills PHCN is bringing for my electricity consumption.

I went to their office along Isawo road, Owutu, Ikorodu area of lagos state. I was directed to PHCN office on lagos road, besides 1stBank. I was told to write a letter of complain which I did. But nothing comes out of it. I had to suffer paying bills which I did not use.

I had to discussion with the guy that use to bring the bill then on what I can do to normalise the bill. Which he help me to achieve with some change anyway. Thereafter, they stop bring estimated bill to m6 house

ayobase:




- Purchase a meter and get it registered under your name.

you dont say!!the one i paid for since 2005 hasnt been delivered ...and yes i still have the receipt i was issued.and ofcos ikedc are not keen on installing it since they make a killing from estimated billing .if installing pre paid becomes a reality,thunder will surely fire whoever asks me for money before installation ..on a lighter note,we dey get light for my area sha oo...dem dey try

johnwizey:
D only reason is the billions allocated for power is been embezzled by dat clueless individual and his cohorts.
Come FEBUHARI 14, we tell dem to start packing dere loads
Sai Buhari

did u even read the write up.....haba be realistic 4 once, hate for GEJ has blinded ur reasoning, i knw corruption has affected PHCN, but there R many other factors...calm dwn.abeg mak dis election com nd go mak people brain reboot...

johnwizey:
D only reason is the billions allocated for power is been embezzled by dat clueless individual and his cohorts.











Come FEBUHARI 14, we tell dem to start packing dere loads









Sai Buhari

Clueless Clueless Clueless just tell us one Nigeria president that is not Clueless?

op I really appreciate what you are doing. my question is in my area once there's lighting , the light goes off to come back the next day especially if it occurs at night but if a strong politicians is around or there's a football match, it will be restored that same day. my question is what's the rational behind it??

The only reason people bypass their meters is because of the fraudulent bill PHCN use to bring to people's house. Bills you wonder how they arrived at.

I used to pay my bills upfront before until PHCN show me pepper. Before I don't pay more than 1000 naia a month. Because of that, I may pay upto 8000 naira on a bill just to avoid going to pay every month. So, at a point in time, the amount of credit I have with PHCN have risen to almost 12000 naira.

Around August of that year, the bill suddenly rise to 4500 naria by placing my bill on estimated bills which has not been so before. Within 3 months, the credit I have turns to debit.

I went to PHCN office to lodge a complain about the estimated bills been brought to my house. The readings on my meter do not tally with the bills PHCN is bringing for my electricity consumption.

I went to their office along Isawo road, Owutu, Ikorodu area of lagos state. I was directed to PHCN office on lagos road, besides 1stBank. I was told to write a letter of complain which I did. But nothing comes out of it. I had to suffer paying bills which I did not use.

I had to discussion with the guy that use to bring the bill then on what I can do to normalise the bill. Which he help me to achieve with some change anyway. Thereafter, they stop bring estimated bill to m6 house. But, I had to pay 1st all the debt that have accrued on my bill before the correction can be made. This bills ran up to 24000 naira, because I was waiting for the bill to be correct before payment.

I can you now convinced a person that have undergone such an ordeal not to bypass the meter so as to get back what have been illegally taken from him by PHCN.

Why is PHCN not distributing prepaid meters. I have been to their office several times on that just to avoid the paper bills which made me feel being cheated all the time.

Anytime I went to their office regard prepaid meter, I will be told is not available but directed to another person that can get me the prepaid meter through illegal means by paying the guy 30,000 naira. But I am waiting till the time the meter will be available because going through this illegal way encourages corruption to continue to strive.

[quote author=Caracta post=30301067]What about countries with stable power supply?

Do they have magical transformers?

Nice and interesting write-up.

Errrrm...I've always wondered why we do not get power supply whenever there is

Caracta:
What about countries with stable power supply?

Do they have magical transformers?

Nice and interesting write-up.

Errrrm...I've always wondered why we do not get power supply whenever there is an interesting football match.

No but they have more transformers to go round as a result of long time planning not the magic Nigerians want.

ayobase:


I can't say much about Ogun State. But I wanna believe you are under IBEDC.

Nigerians are the cause my brother.
A case of paying Peter via robbing Paul.
I must balance the account by robbing some other customers after helping Mr. A to reduce a bill of 60K to 6K.

I might need to spread a bill of 54K on other customers to balance up.
It is that simple and simple.


We need to stand up against corruption.
Corruption is not only about stealing, but not doing what is right.

And some people will start chanting Sai Buhari, that he will stop corruption, how can you stop corruption when it's in our blood, we as Nigerians need to go back to our homes and cultivate the corruption free mindset,only then can we achieve true democracy in Nigeria.


Vote PDP, GEJISIT

Caracta:


I just need to know how it works for them...completely independent of my country's experience. I want to know if they have alternative source(s). I want to know where and what we can explore further. That isn't a crime, is it?

if u have been to places like Omuoku in rivers state they have light 24/7, they get their supply from NAOC gas plant for free. it is very possibly if we our total output greater than total deman. like u asked ealier during football that light is always off in ur areas that is because that is peak period and some places needs to be open to avoid overload. if we get up to 10 mw there is goine to be constant electricity in naija

Good information ayobase but not complete and i think a few electrical vocabulary differences.

1) the power generating plant and type used eg hydro; coal(including type eg bituminous, anthracite, or lignite); natural gas; oil; nuc-power; solar; wind;etc.

2)the step up transformer voltage level used from the generating plant to the transmission substations usually between 12.47kV to 245kV.

3)transmission substation voltage transformed to a lower primary (feeder) voltage normally between 4.16kV and 34.5kV(4160v to 34500v).
the primary transmission lines delivers power to distribution substations and heavy industry eg innoson, or major manufacturing plant.

4) distribution substations lines are the lines we see on the roads and on the poles which carries power to a step down transformer normally between 480v or 110/120v which is located in our neighbourhoods. This is then delivered to our homes and small business centers.


Our problem in Nigeria is firstly competence and then maintainance. Everybody knows this.

Control rooms are part of the generating plant. I always thought a relay is a device that controls electrical circuit by opening and closing contacts in another circuit eg a relay application would be employed(used) in say a switch to start an industrial motor, so when you turn the switch on, an electrical circuit completes a path to a relay which then closes a contact in the relay and in so doing completes an electrical circuit for that motor. hence, relays normally have terms like spst or dpst (single-pole single-throw or double-pole single throw). Relays are used in several applications - using little power to control big power. Fuses and circuit breakers normally open/trip when high current is supplied to an equipment or load they are protecting.
I no mean hijack your post. Good job on your part. I appreciate your knowledge.

All this one na grammar! One thing is sure....

IN BENIN CITY, WE HAVE NEVER PAID SO MUCH IN "NEPA" BILL AND YET HAD ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS POWER SUPPLY AS WE DO NOW!

We have light an average of 2hours every 2 or 3days in my area. If we are lucky, we see it up to 3hours in total (we don't see it again till 2 or 3days later)! Yet we are forced to pay the fixed charge every month!


Our transformer blew and for 5 months (jan-may last year) , not a spark of light. Yet we paid fixed charge for that 5 months!

Since the privatization of NEPA, we have jumped from frying pan into fire. Infact from frying Pan into volcanic molten magma!!!

nice one op, as a little point of correction, opening actually means switching OFF and closing means switching ON.

ayobase:

http://johnomolaolu..com/2015/01/reasons-you-might-not-be-having.html

Opening is switching Off
Closing is switching on

when u open a CB or an Isolator, the fingers(male and female contacts) are apart and there is no current flow, and when u close they are together which allows the flow of current. Thanks
Nice write up though

Interesting. My house of 3 self cons and a flat has no metre (paid for but not delivered) and the bill keeps increasing even though we are only two tenants occupying the place for now. November was 4k plus, then we were 3. The current bill was brought in Jan and was 7k plus.
We rarely had light between November and December because of transformer problems.
It became better in January but something happened, high tension wires fell and killed 3 people and as a result, the whole area didn't have light for nearly 2 weeks (If you are in Lagos, think of a place like say from 7up to Ikeja under bridge that's an example)
My co-tenant who helps pay the bill at their office went to complain about the high bill but according to him, a woman there refuted his story; reason being that she stays in our area and can testify to there being constant light.

So, now you are saying our bill probably increased because of the 'sin' of others in using short cuts?
If in trying to correct the anomally, a staff discredited our story, what then?
Where does the fault lie? Because it definitely isn't us and if we aren't getting any succour from DISCO and someone comes with a shortcut, give me reasons why we wouldn't jump at the idea.

ayobase:


I can't say much about Ogun State. But I wanna believe you are under IBEDC.

Nigerians are the cause my brother.
A case of paying Peter via robbing Paul.
I must balance the account by robbing some other customers after helping Mr. A to reduce a bill of 60K to 6K.

I might need to spread a bill of 54K on other customers to balance up.
It is that simple and simple.

We need to stand up against corruption.
Corruption is not only about stealing, but not doing what is right.

Nigerians want to change government, but are not ready to change themselves.

ayobase:



Nigeria can overcome this power issue if you and I will start doing the right things.

- Cut any fraudulent act with corrupt staff.
- Get them reported at the main office with crucifying evidence.
- Purchase a meter and get it registered under your name.
- Always ask for your monthly bill when not given.
- Never pay any marketer or any staff (especially linesmen)
- Report any irregularities to the main regional or headquarters office.
- I will advise you have a lawyer. Always be on the alert to ascertain any sort of cheat-game.
- Shun every form of bypassing and cheating.

with these points and some others, 'cabal' will be dealt with and subdued to a reasonable and bearing level.

I disagree with you on these... Power distribution or DISCO should first put their own house in order and also create a channel were complaint made by consumers are investigated and not treated with levity

If you are not using a prepaid meter, then you are on a long thing, now this is how nepa bills the areas, let say area A uses a total of 10mw, nepa will calculate the amount of prepaid meter users and how much credit they paid for, subtract it from the 10mw let's say it is 3mw, the remaining 7mw is shared among those using old meter, they don't come in to read meter they just share the amount among them now those that tap light or bypass, you are the one paying for their meter.

Now my case study Area is IKOYI lagos
Its only on sunday we use this appliances and that's when we are using more light
TV
Freezer
Laptop (2)
Bulb
Three fans
Pumping machine
Iron
And minor gadgets

I don't use Ac or any other high powered electronics, now if there is no constant light we don't pay anything less than 6k which is exorbitant but we pay, on a bad day, they bring 12k for a month, am I running and industry so I decided it was time for prepaid and am telling you in a week from 300 units, I am left with 280units and #2000 naira equals 120units which I can't finish in a month it took me 4months to get it take a cue from my experience and get yourself a prepaid meter.

I stand to be corrected ...substation is not the transformer on ur street

-Opening: Switching on
-Closing: Switching off

I beg to disagree on this. Opening of a switch or a CB is switching OFF while Closing is switching ON.

lomomike:

[s]Must you derail this thread with your childish political rants. The so called clueless individual is much more successful than you, older than you, has achieved only what a few has achieved, and what millions dream of achieving.
Grow up and stop being silly and childish.[/s]

You are the one being silly here with this stupi.d post of yours that has no explanation to the total blackout in the country.

ayobase:


I am talking about Distribution of today, not Transmission.

i havee a question pls
ok my hubby packed into this new house July last year while i was in school,he was rarely around cause he went back to their coy guest house ppending when i'll come back from school,i came bak nov and found out that our 'new'meter was at 356kw/hr,all our electric appliances were switched off during that period.
Presently its at 600kw/hr.
I have complained to the PHEDC,we were instructed to reg our meter 1st which we did yet the prob goes on, they seem not to have an answer,though we've resolved not to pay a dime to them until its rectified.
Imagine #20000 bill every month when we r hardly around?
So wot can we do?

adorable29:
All this one na grammar! One thing is sure....

IN BENIN CITY, WE HAVE NEVER PAID SO MUCH IN "NEPA" BILL AND YET HAD ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS POWER SUPPLY AS WE DO NOW!

We have light an average of 2hours every 2 or 3days in my area. If we are lucky, we see it up to 3hours in total (we don't see it again till 2 or 3days later)! Yet we are forced to pay the fixed charge every month!


Our transformer blew and for 5 months (jan-may last year) , not a spark of light. Yet we paid fixed charge for that 5 months!

Since the privatization of NEPA, we have jumped from frying pan into fire. Infact from frying Pan into volcanic molten magma!!!

I feel your pain. In the era of PHCN, it was govt owned, whether there was profit or not, govt was obliged to provide you electricity. Now the discos are owned by the private sector and the discos buy electricity and sell same to make a profit.
The area you live may be listed under hostile and unresponsive, i.e customers/consumers in the area don't pay bills and are known to molest staff of the company. If you were in the management of say a disco, would it profitable to replace a facility with millions to a community that even in 10 years time you won't recover the your cost? Wouldn't you rather channel you products (electricity) to customers who are willing to pay?
Fixed charge is quite annoying, however fixed charge is the cost of evacuating power from the generating station to your doorstep, and this charge goes to the FG, with a little percentage going to the disco. The discos are only collecting on behalf of the FG.
If you feel your bill isn't commensurate with how much you consume, walk into any business district and lodge a complaint, if you're not satisfied, you can have it escalated by visiting the NERC office in your state.

@ayobase

what's up with the racketeering and hoarding of prepaid meters now. PHCN keeps bringing crazy bills and we want to switch to pp meters but it is like trying to run through a phalanx.

Where and how can a PP meter be bought?
The cost?
The process?

This is what the internet is for. This is what technolgy is for but public institutions in this country like their head seem to be totally inept on how to do any thing.