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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 2:46pm On Jan 29, 2015
pic is a friends farm.

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jan 29, 2015
more pics. the farm is undergoing expansion.

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:37pm On Jan 29, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
Floating cages is great, challenges are cannibalism(high since u cant really do sorting) and d few experiment i knew was carried out in lagos, they got large fishes, but d stocked density was greatly reduce. In biz, u dare & see if it works for u. I will see if i can upload a pic(though it was uploaded sometime ago)

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:55pm On Jan 29, 2015
the floating cage

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
the floating cage
Hmmmmmm it has its own peculiar challenges.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by peddy79: 8:58am On Jan 30, 2015
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 1:26pm On Jan 30, 2015
House, please I need an advice.. Just about to hatch but I will like to know if inbreeding doesn't affect production of catfish (the amount to be precise).

Thanks.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by mozek24: 5:48pm On Jan 30, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
the floating cage

Thanks for the pix. Though the image is not clear enough to know how the cage really look like

I like the concept of floating cage in a river. You may stock at melange stage to avoid sorting, cannibalism etc but my fear is that when your fish might have attained 1.5 - 2kg and you are ready to sell, you get to your farm and see nothing!

I means since its floating and in water, its proned to outright theft! Local fishermen can come at midnight when you are already snoring and paddle the entire farm away.

From what I see in that pix, if you are not a typical fisherman that can stand/stay at the centre of water ----large water you may have to reconsider it. This one nor be tapauline, concrete or even earthen pond. .......did you see the massive water? Am already shivering.....
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bambeezu: 12:40am On Jan 31, 2015
mozek24:


Thanks for the pix. Though the image is not clear enough to know how the cage really look like

I like the concept of floating cage in a river. You may stock at melange stage to avoid sorting, cannibalism etc but my fear is that when your fish might have attained 1.5 - 2kg and you are ready to sell, you get to your farm and see nothing!

I means since its floating and in water, its proned to outright theft! Local fishermen can come at midnight when you are already snoring and paddle the entire farm away.

From what I see in that pix, if you are not a typical fisherman that can stand/stay at the centre of water ----large water you may have to reconsider it. This one nor be tapauline, concrete or even earthen pond. .......did you see the massive water? Am already shivering.....

lolz, though the river is massive but it can be done with on site security.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bambeezu: 12:43am On Jan 31, 2015
[quote author=excelsiorfarm post=30256463][/quote]
Thanks excelsiorfarm for the pics
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 2:59am On Jan 31, 2015
bambeezu:


lolz, though the river is massive but it can be done with on site security.

Feeding is what could be challenging
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:27am On Jan 31, 2015
Fhemmmy:


Feeding is what could be challenging
it depends, if a man has a phobia for massive water(makes them dizzy) ,it is better to stay clear this system or d alternative, create d ones u can install around small streams or narrow river channels. below are feeding pic, accept apology for d pic outlook.

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bambeezu: 10:31am On Jan 31, 2015
Fhemmmy:


Feeding is what could be challenging

How pls explain
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:47am On Jan 31, 2015
not to bother yourselves much,to enjoy fish farming use materials u can manage effectively & check cost also.that floating cages u see cost 1Million naira only
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 3:21pm On Jan 31, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
it depends, if a man has a phobia for massive water(makes them dizzy) ,it is better to stay clear this system or d alternative, create d ones u can install around small streams or narrow river channels. below are feeding pic, accept apology for d pic outlook.

Well said. ...thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jonyse: 4:18pm On Jan 31, 2015
Good afternoon fish farmers, pls I need your advise.

There are thiny black worms in my pond and they stick to the body of my fish. When they move they can stretch to like 1ft in length and become small when not movingt. Kindly advise on what to use to eliminate them from my pond.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by condi1704(m): 4:48pm On Jan 31, 2015
Dear all, pls does digital pen pH meter give accurate reading to check water pH. pls share ur experience. and advice the good equipment and method to check water pH. Thanks.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:53pm On Jan 31, 2015
jonyse:
Good afternoon fish farmers, pls I need your advise.

There are thiny black worms in my pond and they stick to the body of my fish. When they move they can stretch to like 1ft in length and become small when not movingt. Kindly advise on what to use to eliminate them from my pond.
type of pond?good water mgt (clean pond)& not overfeeding is good preventive idea
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 2:38pm On Feb 01, 2015
av been noticing this issue having in my pond ,d pond is dirty this days in d harmattan season and I also notice most of d local feeds mostly Nigeria made feeds that's floating feeds do pollute d pond when they are feeding d fish.pls need ur advice more on this feeding them do occur in d morning and evening. and pls don't know d reason why d earthen pond is dirty this time again it will be 6 weeks on Tuesday av stock them still feeding them 2mm feeds but they av big oooooooooooooooo.soon I will change their feed this week.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Willas04: 10:11am On Feb 02, 2015
Hello Fish farmers in the house. I always read thru this thread with great joy and I am very appreciative of the gurus in the house who freely share their wealth of experience in this forum.

I am about opening a fish farm. I have already contracted a consultant to guide me through the process and site preparation is also ongoing. This consultant has prepared a feasibility report for me. One of the estimates in the report is that we can produce and sell up to two hundred thousand(200k) fingerlings at once in the hatchery. I found this estimate unrealistic.

Please the gurus, what is your take in this. Is this really possible?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:33pm On Feb 02, 2015
possible but not guaranteed, your mgt,brood stocks,facilities,funding plays major role
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by mozek24: 2:17pm On Feb 02, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
not to bother yourselves much,to enjoy fish farming use materials u can manage effectively & check cost also.that floating cages u see cost 1Million naira only

The floating cage of N1m, how many table size fishes can it take?

If one can have that you won't bother about changing water, pollution, nepa bill,neighbour's wahala etc. You focus on feed and security.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 1:39am On Feb 03, 2015
Willas04:
Hello Fish farmers in the house. I always read thru this thread with great joy and I am very appreciative of the gurus in the house who freely share their wealth of experience in this forum.

I am about opening a fish farm. I have already contracted a consultant to guide me through the process and site preparation is also ongoing. This consultant has prepared a feasibility report for me. One of the estimates in the report is that we can produce and sell up to two hundred thousand(200k) fingerlings at once in the hatchery. I found this estimate unrealistic.

Please the gurus, what is your take in this. Is this really possible?
It is possible by just like what excelsior pointed out that it depends on the overall management practices and more so you will encouter challnges which of course everybody does and especially in the hatchery operations. Sometimes the hatching might not be successful due to some of the factors excelsior pointed out.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Lesgupnigeria(m): 2:04am On Feb 03, 2015
@robonski15
i have been trying to register at the website but it has not been successful.
guess it does not allow registration through mobile phone.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:55pm On Feb 03, 2015
mozek24:


The floating cage of N1m, how many table size fishes can it take?

If one can have that you won't bother about changing water, pollution, nepa bill,neighbour's wahala etc. You focus on feed and security.
6000-8000, indeed u wont bother about some of d things u mentioned,but u have to bother that their growth rate shouldnt be of large variation or you have some feeding big on d ones not catching up
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by mozek24: 1:24pm On Feb 03, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
6000-8000, indeed u wont bother about some of d things u mentioned,but u have to bother that their growth rate shouldnt be of large variation or you have some feeding big on d ones not catching up

I think its cost effective compared to concrete ponds.

It cost me about N700k to build a 3 units concrete ponds of a total capacity of 5,000 to table size. This floating cage system is a better and cheaper option. For fear of cannibalism stock at melange stage and feed regularly. We need to move fish farming back to the river, its far more cost effective.

My only fear is since its floating I hope those boys will not paddle it away at midnight. And in case of oil spill you may lose all your stock!

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 2:52pm On Feb 03, 2015
hello, please how much is zeigler feed in the market now?

thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 3:12pm On Feb 03, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
6000-8000, indeed u wont bother about some of d things u mentioned,but u have to bother that their growth rate shouldnt be of large variation or you have some feeding big on d ones not catching up

With the water waves and all that, where do you drop the feedings for the fish, i will assume a cage means it is like a net, basin or perforated cage, and wont the feeds washed off with the water current or are the fish just gonna be eating like other fishes in the water and if that is the case, how much food would they be able to eat while being restricted within a cage and have to fight for the food in the open water with some other fishes that are free while looking at yours in the prison of man?

Just asking, cos i am not sure of how this works. . . . see the attched pix for a sample, there are other ones that i think might be OK

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:58pm On Feb 03, 2015
@fhemmmy i have seen that,same concept,different approach. Either way,no fish comes in or out of both cages,that u show is prone to fishing birds,d other u can stand over your fishpond.when u feed no feed is lost,except u overfeed which might not be picked & will still be picked cos no pollution in such tanks.mind u d bottom aint a free fall, all an enclosement for your fishes.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 5:03pm On Feb 03, 2015
excelsiorfarm:
@fhemmmy i have seen that,same concept,different approach. Either way,no fish comes in or out of both cages,that u show is prone to fishing birds,d other u can stand over your fishpond.when u feed no feed is lost,except u overfeed which might not be picked & will still be picked cos no pollution in such tanks.mind u d bottom aint a free fall, all an enclosement for your fishes.

I feel you, i think here is the one you talking about . . .

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:08pm On Feb 03, 2015
@mozek24, for your fear,it is real & same for all cage fishes. best d water source is yours e.g. u have control of d environ.like this dam belongs to a man,pic below

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