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Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by malvisguy212: 10:52am On Feb 24, 2015 |
johnydon22:The Bible denounces slavery as sin and goes as far to put slave traders in the same boat as murderers (1 Timothy 1:10) Back in the days of Leviticus slavery was sanctioned due to economic reasons. Back then, there were no such thing as bankruptcy laws so people would sell themselves into slavery to rectify debts. A craftsman could use his skills to literally "pay off" a debt. Or a convicted thief could make restitution by serving as a slave. (Exodus 22:3) Jacob sold himself for seven good years to get the woman of his choice but his uncle trick him and with different woman he has no intention to married,still Jacob volunteers for another seven years just to get recheal and he get her.we can see that even Jacob who is favour by God get a harsh treatment. The Bible recognizes the reality of slavery, but it never promotes the practice of slavery. It was the biblical principles that ultimately led to the overthrow of slavery, both in ancient Israel . "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." ( Exodus 21:16) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus. ( Galatians 3:28) knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether SLAVE or FREE. ( Ephesians 6: |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Horus(m): 10:53am On Feb 24, 2015 |
The first Britsh slave ship to Reach the Americas was called The Good Ship Jesus. Yes. Sir John Hawkins had the dubious distinction of becoming the first slave-ship captain to bring Africans to the Americas. Hawkins was a religious gentleman who insisted that his crew “serve God daily” and “love another”. His ship, ironically called “the good ship Jesus,” left the shores of his native England for Africa in October 1562. He arrived at Sierra Leone, and in a short time he had three hundred blacks in his possession. Hawkins claimed to have acquired them “partly by sword and partly by other means.” Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by malvisguy212: 10:57am On Feb 24, 2015 |
simplex2:why do you falsely accused me of insulting other? Have you ever seen me insult other? God will judge. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 11:04am On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Parisbookaddict aka Ifeann aka Male aka Female aka Proud Black aka White Woman, does it look like I didn't read the original post Of course this is your strategy, I know you too well. When your hate post has been adequately discredited, you go into that r*etarded mode, and you start to talk out of context. Despite the fact that I didn't want to chat with you on our last meeting, you kept pestering me, but when I asked you a question that could expose your deceits, you cunningly refused to answer my questions and disappeared (I mean in your other life as Ifeann, before your reincarnation as parisbookaddict ). You begged me to stop quoting you and you came here to do exactly that. Well, God will continue to expose you! 1 Like |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by johnydon22(m): 11:05am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Hahahahahahahaha [size=20] why am i not surprised [/size] ok let me give more new testament examples .. You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT) Oya go on and start twisting again as usual... Holy lies.. [size=20] Just say what is wrong is wrong and stop making a shameful show of yourself here with these your desperate attempt to white lie the obvious... boss you guys should be honest for once and call a spade a spade [/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Horus(m): 11:08am On Feb 24, 2015 |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by malvisguy212: 11:16am On Feb 24, 2015 |
johnydon22:falsified my claimed if you can. Infacte this verse proof that there was poverty back then and people usually sold them self ; Liviticus 25:39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves. And verse 47 to 49 say; 47 “‘If a foreigner residing among you becomes rich and any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to the foreigner or to a member of the foreigner’s clan, 48 they retain the right of redemption after they have sold themselves. One of their relatives may redeem them: 49 An uncle or a cousin or any blood relative in their clan may redeem them. Or if they prosper, they may redeem themselves. All this verse indicated that the people are living in poverty that God allow them to sold there self into slave and God provide law to guide this slave. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by malvisguy212: 11:20am On Feb 24, 2015 |
johnydon22:oh my sweet Jesus,is this your prove that the bible support slave? My battery is low .by God grace I will be back. Thank you. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by johnydon22(m): 11:22am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: seriously you are not well.. [size=20] slavery is slavery anyway you want to twist it, the quotations are all clear enough... SLAVERY IS WRONG AND EVIL. simple kill urself if you so wish because you want to defend an ancient primitive book[/size] 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by simplex2: 11:22am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Said I was surprised you haven't resorted to insults like pastorkun did. Anyway, I hope the GOD that will judge will be horus or amadioha. I prefer them both: yahweh is a self-confessed jealous god. I don't want him to see my swag and feel intimidated, thereby pronouncing me guilty. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Horus(m): 11:23am On Feb 24, 2015 |
Since the slave-master is an enemy of the slave, if the slave prays to the same God as the master, he is praying to the God that enabled the slavemaster to enslave him. Therefore, that God is the enemy of the slave or captive just as the slave-master is. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by johnydon22(m): 11:25am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: No am sure your brain is interpreting another thing while you read another... Am done wasting my time with you who is so biased that you cant even read... all quotes were clear enough... Am not gona reply any of your quotes concerning this again.. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 11:26am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: yourmain johnydon22 9jaforlife read this then re read the first 2 posts. ...... Qur'an slavery is terrible and immoral... |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 11:31am On Feb 24, 2015 |
9jaforlife: Please post the link where I was pestering u.. I don't have ur time and I have asked u to stop mentioning me if u have nothing to say. . post the link where u "discredited" my post.. what is wrong with u... why make statements that are lies.. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 11:33am On Feb 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Lol. ..I couldn't help but laff to.. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Atigba: 11:40am On Feb 24, 2015 |
Shame to the black race Shame to africa Look at my brothers defending slavery because of a white man religion You should all be ashamed of your self Nonsense 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 11:40am On Feb 24, 2015 |
johnydon22: They read the bible... 1% of their time, the remaining 99% is dedicated to fabricating lies against Islam. Meanwhile they hide the embarrassments in the bible and come here to post sweet likable parts only. When you show them they start talking dumb. Talk of hypocrisy 1 Like |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Horus(m): 11:48am On Feb 24, 2015 |
The nature of the Caucasian is to oppress and cause Darker Peoples suffering and death. Furthermore, it stands to reason that the oppressive slave master did not and will not give the slave anything which he thinks may one day liberate the slave, therefore, we know that the Bible (which the slave master gave to us) and his spirit forces thereof will never liberate the captive. We should reject the oppressor’s religion and his spirit forces including the names of his spirit forces 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 12:00pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
Horus: johnydon22 and co So ur view is that we should reject christainity because the Caucasians broke old testament slavery laws as well as new testament commands of love ur neighbour as urself etc and traded Africans as slaves... “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” ( Exodus 21:16 ). Similarly, in the New Testament, slave-traders are listed among those who are “ungodly and sinful” and are in the same category as those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, adulterers and perverts, and liars and perjurers ( 1 Timothy 1:8–10 ). now I ask u... what about arabs who traded African slaves for centuries before the "white man" and who still trade slaves.... google slavery in Qatar, isis, Taliban, al nusra. .etc.. who rape slaves and bred slaves as approved by the quran. . u need to know that the Bible instructs on the treatment of slaves as contained in the original post...it never promotes it and in the new testament it condemns it but however does not ask the slaves to revolt and kill their masters. ..apparently this u would have loved but christainity is a peaceful religion. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by johnydon22(m): 12:15pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: If you read my first post here i said both bible and koran are sanctions slavery one way or another we all know.it... i never singled out christianity... My only problem is someone that cannot call a spade of spade because of sentimental allegiance.. SLAVERY IS SLAVERY IN ANY DECORATION IT MAY COME IN BE IT IN THE BIBLE OR KORAN, IT IS EVIL AND WRONG... Btw i dont recall telling anybody to reject their belief muslim or Christian that's your business... but that shouldn't cloud anybody's judgement in this issue like wat am seeing now.. muslims trying to hide and twist their koan but condemn that of christians, while christians find a way to hide and twist theirs but condemn that of muslims... common why cant someone just say slavery is bad be it in the koran or the bible.. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Nobody: 12:20pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
Slavery in thje Bible Exodus 21:1-36 |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 12:31pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
johnydon22: U still refuse to understand the original post.. Read it again. Slavery 4000 years ago is very different from Mohammeds time and our modern age.. The New Testament presupposes a call for equality because all humans are created in God’s image (James 3:9). Yet, an even deeper unity in Christ transcends human boundaries and social structures: no Jew or Greek, slave or free, no male and female, as all believers are all “one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28; cp. Colossians 3:11). Some critics like u and horus and AgentOfAllah claim, “Jesus never said anything about the wrongness of slavery.” Not so. He explicitly OPPOSSED every form of oppression in His mission “to proclaim release to the captives … to set free those who are oppressed” (Luke 4:18 NASB1; cp. Isaiah 61:1). While Jesus did not press for some economic reform plan in Israel or order slaves to revolt , He did address attitudes such as greed, materialism, contentment, and generosity. New Testament writers addressed underlying attitudes regarding slavery: Christian masters called Christian slaves “brothers” or “sisters.” The New Testament commanded masters to show compassion, justice, and patience. Their position as master meant responsibility and service, not oppression and privilege. A SLAVE THEN BECAME A BROTHER TO HIS MASTER. . Dont u see how Christ planted the seeds to ending slavery while Mohammed tried to revive it |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 12:33pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Imagine Ifeann aka parisbookaddict who says she's black and implies that she's white, refers to herself as boy/girl, calling someone a liar You quoted me in a post, that means you were expecting a reply from me, right? So why complain that I mentioned you? L*unatic That's the screenshot below, you can locate the topic and read the whole thread. As usual, I won't be shocked if you come back to twist it... Na ya profession
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Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 12:42pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Read Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." As you can see, the bible's slavery is excellent! You can pass down slaves to your children and they can also pass to their children, making slaves your property forever. See the way you're busy quoting people, later you'll be angry when they quote you. Ifeanyi aka Ifeann aka parisbookaddict the master of double standard |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 1:01pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
9jaforlife: U quoted me and accused me of something frist. Then I replied. . Please show where I implied I am white...all manner of lies u will employ. .. u African muslims have perfected al taqiyyah as much as the Arabs. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Horus(m): 1:12pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: No, what I mean is that we should reject all alien foreing religions (both Islam and Christianity). How can people of a "peaceful" religion decide to own slave ships?. Your God supported slavery both in Islam and Christianity yet today you still serve him like a slave. Even some of the first popes were once slaves traders themselves. In 1452 Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas, which granted Afonso V of Portugal the right to reduce any "Saracens, pagans and any other unbelievers" to hereditary slavery. The approval of slavery under these conditions was reaffirmed and extended in his Romanus Pontifex bull of 1455. In 1488 Pope Innocent VIII accepted the gift of 100 slaves from Ferdinand II of Aragon and distributed those slaves to his cardinals and the Roman nobility. Also, in 1639 Pope Urban VIII purchased slaves for himself from the Knights of Malta |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by Empiree: 1:16pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:I honestly dont care what you say. Anytime you need exist strategy you start calling me liar, taqqiya in order to silence me. That i will not take from you. Now you know who empire is. Empiree also knows who ifeann is. So stop pretending like you are a saint. As for you pastorkun, keep hiding lady's skirt. I already defeated your other brothers who came out openly. If you have no reasonable counterclaim here go and bury your head in the sand. Fair enough? But you are a coward. Man of the house should be at the forefront not behind woman. |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 1:41pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Your purpose of creating threads/lies against Islam is to incite hate against Muslims. Despite the fact that you pretend about it, your true colour still prevails. You tell us to challenge you but when we do, you either twist the whole content of the discussion or ignore it completely. An example is in the shots I've posted below. You once raised concerns why Muslims don't wear long ties, then someone cited Dangote as an example of Muslims who do. You said Dangote couldn't be accepted as a standard because you don't even know if he pays zakat. But when I challenged you that how did you know if the example that you used, Sanusi pays zakat, you LIED that those were my words and not yours. That's what I've captured in the first two screenshots below. Note the question I asked you in the circle. In the 3rd shot, rather than address my question, you go about twisting what I asked you, in your usual d*umb manner, praising them (Dangote & Sanusi) and adding that their choice of clothing doesn't bother you. But when I asked you that what was then your aim of creating that thread, cos it didn't look like you were praising them in the thread, YOU BAILED Imagine yourself again (the third circle in the third shot), saying that you change from male to female and back to female and back to male because it amuses you how people react Ifeanyi aka Ifeann aka parisbookaddict aka male aka female aka proud black aka white woman, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOURSELF EXAMINED MENTALLY!!! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 2:41pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: No, you continued sending useless messages to convince me of your "sincerity"... As if you know the meaning of that word. Lol Check below, the first and second shots are the same post, 1 is the beginning and 2 is the end where you said "u assume I am black". That statement is ONLY befitting of a white. Why would a black person accuse someone of assuming that she's black, if she's not trying to hide her real identity In shot 3, you pulled the stunt on another reader, by saying "u Africans". Although you have cunningly repeated it above to pretend that you just do it normally without any agenda. Ifeann the smart LIAR!! In shot 4, the reader challenged that fraudulent act of yourself, and he also raised the question of the devastating effects of slavery in the Christians West's colonization. Your reply? "We don't live in a perfect world"... Meaning that it's OK, you don't see anything wrong with it as long as the perpetrators are Christians. And you come here to blab about how Islam supported slavery. Ifeann aka parisbookaddict, even the devil himself will bow for your deception and hypocrisy. I hail thee 1 Like
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Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 3:54pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
9jaforlife: I wonder why my sex and race is so important to u .. Please focus on the topic. I could be an old Japanese man behind the screen ....it is not relevant. U Muslims are so funny |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by 9jaforlife: 4:16pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: IFEANYIII... aka Ifeann aka parisbookaddict !! Una no go kill me. You asked me to 'focus on the topic'? Perhaps you didn't suspect that I'd be able to nail you down this badly. I know that you're suffering from a tremendous loss of memory due to your mental imbalance. Let me repost what you said in your quote that I replied to. Read it below. parisbookaddict: And I did just that by showing you undeniable evidences, instead of you to cover your face in shame, it's now you know that it's not relevant? Why did you ask me then The Quran says "Order righteousness to people only after practicing it yourself" (2:44) I guess the bible preaches "Do what I say and not what I do". Cos I wonder how an extremely dishonest person like you will be preaching gospel L*unatic |
Re: Let's Take A Look At Slavery As Contained In Bible Verses by parisbookaddict(f): 4:22pm On Feb 24, 2015 |
9jaforlife: I am busy.. I must not win all our arguments.... u can have irrelevant ones like this.. Peace |
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