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How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 1:24pm On Apr 15, 2015
Call this killing two birds with one stone because I'm trying to rely someone and enlighten at the same time. He believes and other atheists also that Christianity constraints one. Read on.....

valmunich:

Nahh. . . That shiii is just there to make sure you guys never try to escape that religious constraint cool

What Constraint? What does religion hold you from. I think atheists are selfish people. And I'll be creating a topic on this soon.

Selfish yes and I'll explain. Am a christian because the bible preaches peace, it is against everything evil. I have discovered if followed well, will create a world of loving and caring people. Now what is the CONSTRAINT in trying to make the world better?

I believe,Atheism originated from people who wanted to engage in immorality, they wanted to drink, smoke weed, commit crimes but they couldn't because christianity wouldn't let them to so they started questioning its existence and formed another religion(if you don't know atheism is a religion, so it's just as if you are leaving a religion for another) that doesn't question their actions.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by johnydon22(m): 1:51pm On Apr 15, 2015
You see when i see threads like this i get terrified because you are only showing me that without religion You would be killing, raping, destroying and committing crimes, that sounds to me like you have a morality disorder and needs a religion that will put you on a leash..

Morality is not distinctively christian neither is it islamic, morality is human it belongs to no ism. And it does not depend on any book, creed or supernatural for foundation because morality itself is a foundation.

You do not need religion to know what is moral, if you cannot distinguish between right and wrong. Then you lack empathy not religion.

I think their is need to re-evaluate your moral foundation smiley

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 2:01pm On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:
You see when i see threads like this i get terrified because you are only showing me that without religion You would be killing, raping, destroying and committing crimes, that sounds to me like you have a morality disorder and needs a religion that will put you on a leash..

Morality is not distinctively christian neither is it islamic, morality is human it belongs to no ism. And it does not depend on any book, creed or supernatural for foundation because morality itself is a foundation.

You do not need religion to know what is moral, if you cannot distinguish between right and wrong. Then you lack empathy not religion.

I think their is need to re-evaluate your moral foundation smiley

Call it three birds then because am subtly trying to state that christianity is not just a religion, it is morality, morality is its WATCHWORD. It doesn't preach politics or whatever. Every doctrine, every of its command is to guide towards morality.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by plaetton: 2:36pm On Apr 15, 2015
Esdb3:


Call it three birds then because am subtly trying to state that christianity is not just a religion, it is morality, morality is its WATCHWORD. It doesn't preach politics or whatever. Every doctrine, every of its command is to guide towards morality.
This is Bullshyte, friend,.. And its either you are being economical with truth, or that you speaking from stark ignorance.

First, Christianity is a religion. By trying to distance Christianity away from religion, you are acknowledging the sillines of religion.

Secondly, in the 2000yrs of christianity, kindly tell us which and any era where christianity radiated the highest forms of morality.
Pls name any era, any nation where christian morality has been examplary.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by onetrack(m): 2:41pm On Apr 15, 2015
Esdb3:


I believe,Atheism originated from people who wanted to engage in immorality, they wanted to drink, smoke weed, commit crimes but they couldn't because christianity wouldn't let them to so they started questioning its existence and formed another religion(if you don't know atheism is a religion, so it's just as if you are leaving a religion for another) that doesn't question their actions.

Ha! I wish! My life is plenty boring. Work--home--work--home. Get on the internet and debate theists is about the most exciting thing I do these days.

If I really wanted to engage in all kinds of immorality, I would start calling myself a pastor and start collecting money from fools church members and live a fast life, immune from criticism because I am a man of god.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 2:47pm On Apr 15, 2015
plaetton:

This is Bullshyte, friend,.. And its either you are being economical with truth, or that you speaking from stark ignorance.

First, Christianity is a religion. By trying to distance Christianity away from religion, you are acknowledging the sillines of religion.

Secondly, in the 2000yrs of christianity, kindly tell us which and any era where christianity radiated the highest forms of morality.
Pls name any era, any nation where christian morality has been examplary.

You know me discussing with you is abortive, but just lemme reply you anyways. Salvation is a personal thing is my answer, if you don't understand that then you are not worth it. Let's keep plyinh our routes we'll see where it leads to.

And I keep linking atheism with christianity because I've never heard of a muslim atheists, because they dare not believe all your shii. Sometimes I wish christianity used force like islam.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 2:51pm On Apr 15, 2015
onetrack:


Ha! I wish! My life is plenty boring. Work--home--work--home. Get on the internet and debate theists is about the most exciting thing I do these days.

If I really wanted to engage in all kinds of immorality, I would start calling myself a pastor and start collecting money from fools church members and live a fast life, immune from criticism because I am a man of god.

Fake pastors is your ish?? But even christ talked about all these people and askked us to beware and take heed. Damn... You know what ok.

One prayer I'll include in my requests(that is if I remember to) is that God should do what only God can do in your life but first He should do just one thing that'll bring you back to yourr senses.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by plaetton: 2:57pm On Apr 15, 2015
Esdb3:


You know me discussing with you is abortive, but just lemme reply you anyways. Salvation is a personal thing is my answer, if you don't understand that then you are not worth it. Let's keep plyinh our routes we'll see where it leads to.

And I keep linking atheism with christianity because I've never heard of a muslim atheists, because they dare not believe all your shii. Sometimes I wish christianity used force like islam.
Lol. grin

Are you cleverly trying to cop out of your own statements that try to link morality and christianity? shocked

C'mon, I am challenging you to kindly show us any era, any empire, any nation that has ever lived and radiated this so - called christian morality.

If you cannot, then shame on you for your ignorance and or dishonesty.,
and then please SHUT UP.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Nobody: 2:59pm On Apr 15, 2015
the emotional response to unfairness is what pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair, not some stone-age silly religious teachings. all humans have emotions/morals controlled by the insular cortex (the region of the human brain tht controls emotions),
christians are foolishly wrong to assume that morals come from their religion,
i don't blame them sha because their religion has made them so ignorant, dumb and moronic.
visit our prisons and you see a huge representation of christianity, and their crimes rage from sexual offences, fraud, robbery, murder, etc.
as we speak,, catholic church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/pedophile crimes of their priests alone , christians are vastly over represented in domestic violence, divorce courts, etc.
it was christians who invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!
yet they always point fingers on atheists.

shame!!!

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by johnydon22(m): 3:12pm On Apr 15, 2015
He has not seen an atheist that was once a muslim.. This dude needs to meet more people grin Imagine the wonderful show of ignorance cheesy

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by johnydon22(m): 3:14pm On Apr 15, 2015
talk about morality [size=20] My morality is the only thing holding me back from becoming a pastor and extorting money from the poor masses in god's name [/size]

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by johnydon22(m): 3:17pm On Apr 15, 2015
Esdb3:


Call it three birds then because am subtly trying to state that christianity is not just a religion, it is morality, morality is its WATCHWORD. It doesn't preach politics or whatever. Every doctrine, every of its command is to guide towards morality.

Go and read about 1000 years of christian dominance over Europe (the dark ages) then come back and tell me more about christian morality.. smiley

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by plaetton: 3:45pm On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:
talk about morality [size=20] My morality is the only thing holding me back from becoming a pastor and extorting money from the poor masses in god's name [/size]

Meeee Tooo oo

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by plaetton: 3:58pm On Apr 15, 2015
MrPresident:
the emotional response to unfairness is what pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair, not some stone-age silly religious teachings. all humans have emotions/morals controlled by the insular cortex (the region of the human brain tht controls emotions),
christians are foolishly wrong to assume that morals come from their religion,
i don't blame them sha because their religion has made them so ignorant, dumb and moronic.
visit our prisons and you see a huge representation of christianity, and their crimes rage from sexual offences, fraud, robbery, murder, etc.
as we speak,, catholic church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/pedophile crimes of their priests alone , christians are vastly over represented in domestic violence, divorce courts, etc.
it was christians who invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!
yet they always point fingers on atheists.

shame!!!
Lol.
These people hilarious.

Just the other day, I overheard a phone conversation a born again friend was having with her friend.
In it, she was telling her friend about a special fasting and annointing program coming up at her church.
She was confidently telling her friend that at the end of the fasting and special prayers, all her sins would be forgiven, and that should she would walk away with a clean slate.
She said it with so much alacrity, that it took a while for the shock to wear off on my mind.

Considering that this person was a serial adulterer, this is the kind of thinking that informs christian morality.
Mccheeeww!

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Nobody: 6:04pm On Apr 15, 2015
plaetton:

Lol.
These people hilarious.

Just the other day, I overheard a phone conversation a born again friend was having with her friend.
In it, she was telling her friend about a special fasting and annointing program coming up at her church.
She was confidently telling her friend that at the end of the fasting and special prayers, all her sins would be forgiven, and that should she would walk away with a clean slate.
She said it with so much alacrity, that it took a while for the shock to wear off on my mind.

Considering that this person was a serial adulterer, this is the kind of thinking that informs christian morality.
Mccheeeww!

hehehehe! grin this goes to show that sin is an imaginary disease invented to give the dumb religion followers an imaginary cure via fasting, special prayers, and honor killing(in islam)
imagine, an atheist drew a cartoon, and people started rioting, killing, burning houses, etc.
the people who kill and destroy properties are doing the work of god while the cartoonist is a sinner . grin religion is really dumb.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Nobody: 7:34pm On Apr 15, 2015
OP wasn't religious at birth tho. Just as the baby of a slave grows up to become a slave.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by johnydon22(m): 7:35pm On Apr 15, 2015
chew on this

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by frank317: 8:32pm On Apr 15, 2015
Lol... Christians will never cease to amaze me. You are talking of morality yet you accept it is right for your God to drown millions of infacts and underaged because of sin. Your God killed his son so that you could forgive when u ask oooo or else u will b thrown into everlastion burning.

Is it even moral that he caused Mary, who was someone else's wife to get pregnant? Imagine an innocent virgin carrying a baby in her womb just like that. Imagine the psychological trauma she went through.

You threaten little kids with everlastion hell yet u talk of morality.

I even thought he had something to say...smh

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:12pm On Apr 15, 2015
plaetton:

This is Bullshyte, friend,.. And its either you are being economical with truth, or that you speaking from stark ignorance.

First, Christianity is a religion. By trying to distance Christianity away from religion, you are acknowledging the sillines of religion.

Secondly, in the 2000yrs of christianity, kindly tell us which and any era where christianity radiated the highest forms of morality.
Pls name any era, any nation where christian morality has been examplary.

North Korea cheesy
plaetton:

This is Bullshyte, friend,.. And its either you are being economical with truth, or that you speaking from stark ignorance.

First, Christianity is a religion. By trying to distance Christianity away from religion, you are acknowledging the sillines of religion.

Secondly, in the 2000yrs of christianity, kindly tell us which and any era where christianity radiated the highest forms of morality.
Pls name any era, any nation where christian morality has been examplary.

North Korea
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:13pm On Apr 15, 2015
Will you die an atheist ? grin
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by wordcat(m): 10:25pm On Apr 15, 2015
MrPresident:


hehehehe! grin this goes to show that sin is an imaginary disease invented to give the dumb religion followers an imaginary cure via fasting, special prayers, and honor killing(in islam)
imagine, an atheist drew a cartoon, and people started rioting, killing, burning houses, etc.
the people who kill and destroy properties are doing the work of god while the cartoonist is a sinner . grin religion is really dumb.

See christianity and morality;

Catholic--Eating meat on Good Friday is a sin, lol a Chosen Mopol will laugh at you for believing this

J. Witness--Blood transfusion is a sin but a Winners will disagree on this

Deeper Life--A woman wearing trousers is a sin whereas a Christ Embassy member doesn't see it as a sin.

Christ Embassy--Masturbattion isn't a sin whereas a Catholic will tell u that Husband and Wife using condom is a sin

They can't even agree within themselves on what amounts to a sin.

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:37pm On Apr 15, 2015
frank317:
Lol... Christians will never cease to amaze me.
We are awesome , this can be seen clearly in
1Peter 2 :9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
You are talking of morality yet you accept it is right for your God to drown millions of infacts and underaged because of sin. Your God killed his son so that you could forgive when u ask oooo or else u will b thrown into everlastion burning.
Off topic but this can be dealt with

1.Still doesn't change the fact that he is God . Even earthly mothers do wicked things do their kids --throwing an unwanted baby away and even killing their newborns for diabolical purposes but that doesn't change the fact that they're mothers.

2. 2 Peter 2:5 : If he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

God loved the people in the days of Noah even though their wickedness were unbearable for him . Noah preached unto them but they rejected his message . So they had to face the consequence.


Is it even moral that he caused Mary, who was someone else's wife to get pregnant? Imagine an innocent virgin carrying a baby in her womb just like that.

They were not married , Mary was betrothed ( in modern-day terms engaged ) to Joseph
Matthew 1: 18 :After his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they were united in marriage, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was like this; for after his mother, Mary, was engaged to Joseph, before they came together, she was found pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

Imagine the psychological trauma she went through.
Epic fail : Mary accepted the new development with joy as seen in

Luke 1:38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

Mary sang the song of joy and happiness, giving glory to God . Mary's Song of Praise is called The Magnificat . If that is trauma to you ,
oh well ...
This can be seen in
Luke 1: 46 -55:

You threaten little kids with everlastion hell yet u talk of morality

Morality is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good or right and those that are bad or wrong. When you do bad in life , you go to hell , you do good coupled with accepting Christ as your saviour you go to heaven. Simple understanding

Hell is not everlasting but being with God is .

Revelation 21:8: But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

I even thought he had something to say...smh

There is no strong correlation with this statement and what the op had to say
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 10:38pm On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:


Go and read about 1000 years of christian dominance over Europe (the dark ages) then come back and tell me more about christian morality.. smiley

TF are you saying?! I'm talking christianity and its PLAIN PREACHING of morality. Of ccourse it has fake followers that the bible itself prophesied of. Try to understand my statements before making smirky remarks.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Nobody: 10:38pm On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Will you die an atheist ? grin

another waste of precious spermatozoon, you re worried about dying an atheist, while our planet is being messed up and destroyed by prankish, wicked, pixillated religous doctrines,
the bible and koran were written yrs back when things were way different than today, you don't see anything in the bible/koran about bombing buildings, hijacking planes , or using a hydrogen bomb as a weapon because they didn't exist back then, otherwise they would have been put into the bible and koran.

one thing you fools don't understand about your silly religious books is that the time element was so different and so is the culture. those idiots that wrote your bible/koran were part of an ancient cruel/wicked society, even today, we have societies that stone women for looking at another man, kill their daughter for loving an infidel or whatever shiiit!!
the truth is - all humans have circumstances that take them to the point of committing a crime, and if they do commit the crime, it just means that the point of self resistance is passed, but you religious idiots get happy and try to use ur silly religion to justify ur wicked act and hope for a hoax reward after death.

shame!!!

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:42pm On Apr 15, 2015
MrPresident:


another waste of precious spermatozoon, you re worried about dying an atheist, while our planet is being messed up and destroyed by prankish, wicked, pixillated religous doctrines,
the bible and koran were written yrs back when things were way different than today, you don't see anything in the bible/koran about bombing buildings, hijacking planes , or using a hydrogen bomb as a weapon because they didn't exist back then, otherwise they would have been put into the bible and koran.

one thing you fools don't understand about your silly religious books is that the time element was so different and so is the culture. those idiots that wrote your bible/koran were part of an ancient cruel/wicked society, even today, we have societies that stone women for looking at another man, kill their daughter for loving an infidel or whatever shiiit!!
the truth is - all humans have circumstances that take them to the point of committing a crime, and if they do commit the crime, it just means that the point of self resistance is passed, but you religious idiots get happy and try to use ur silly religion to justify ur wicked act and hope for a hoax reward after death.

shame!!!


still doesn't answer the question . Reply with a well-thought out response next time
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 10:43pm On Apr 15, 2015
plaetton:

Lol. grin

Are you cleverly trying to cop out of your own statements that try to link morality and christianity? shocked

C'mon, I am challenging you to kindly show us any era, any empire, any nation that has ever lived and radiated this so - called christian morality.

If you cannot, then shame on you for your ignorance and or dishonesty.,
and then please SHUT UP.

Era? Empire? You lost me. My point is christianity preaches morals. Because some christians are sinful, does that make christianity immoral?!!! You SHUT UP.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:44pm On Apr 15, 2015
MrPresident:


hehehehe! grin this goes to show that sin is an imaginary disease invented to give the dumb religion followers an imaginary cure via fasting, special prayers, and honor killing(in islam)
imagine, an atheist drew a cartoon, and people started rioting, killing, burning houses, etc.
the people who kill and destroy properties are doing the work of god while the cartoonist is a sinner . grin religion is really dumb.

There is no connection between christianity and islam
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 10:45pm On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:


Go and read about 1000 years of christian dominance over Europe (the dark ages) then come back and tell me more about christian morality.. smiley

I should read a theory formulated bÝ bias atheists. No thanks.
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Nobody: 10:47pm On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


still doesn't answer the question . Reply with a well-thought out response next time

this brain-dead zombie is more interested in the answer to a silly question, than to learning from a depict of realness

shame!!

Ebuka, your brain is in your head, locate it and use it

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Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:50pm On Apr 15, 2015
Esdb3:


Era? Empire? You lost me. My point is christianity preaches morals. Because some christians are sinful, does that make christianity immoral?!!! You SHUT UP.

They don't simply get it . Anyway the religion section is where the atheist gains all the attention he wants ...
Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:51pm On Apr 15, 2015
MrPresident:


this brain-dead zombie is more interested in the answer to a silly question, than to learning from a depict of realness

shame!!

Ebuka, your brain is in your head, locate it and use it

Re: How Atheism Came To Be(a Reply And A Topic). by Esdb3: 10:55pm On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


They don't simply get it . Anyway the religion section is where the atheist gain all the attention he wants ...

Why not play on the safe side. In your mind I know there is still a 10 percent doubt that your ideology is right. If you follow christianity and it ends up being a charade, you have nothing to lose, but if you are wrong and you die an atheist,Ooohh lala we all know where it ends.

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