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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by itzWarner(m): 4:09pm On May 10, 2015 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by Whobedatte(m): 4:13pm On May 10, 2015 |
roqchiq:LOVE. That's my religion |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by InesQor(m): 4:17pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: What does "literal" mean to you? What about "figurative"? I already said Adam did not fall physically (which means literally), so what else are you asking again? Do you mean the basics of evolution according to you? Or according to general scientific knowledge? Because from everything you've said, your own get semi colon. What pieces am I picking now? All I've said is that I believe God directed the evolution process. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by nairalandbuzz(m): 4:20pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Source? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by InesQor(m): 4:21pm On May 10, 2015 |
nairalandbuzz: Dake is the one that started all this falsehood about the preAdamic creation, and the Lucifer flood eisegesis. He's either reading Dake or else he has studied from someone that has taken Dake hook, line and sinker. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by fairheven: 4:21pm On May 10, 2015 |
DaPhilosopher: C&S hymn? That is wat is giving u inspiration?you better go Forr an ordaination so u can become their BABA ALADURA |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:25pm On May 10, 2015 |
InesQor: 1.Bro I quickly googled 'theistic evolutionist' and found this . Maybe you'd understand where am coming from http://creation.com/10-dangers-of-theistic-evolution 2. Why are most evolutionists atheists? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:28pm On May 10, 2015 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by MyMentor: 4:31pm On May 10, 2015 |
Deception on d highest order:
Adam remain d 1st man; 2 Pt 3v5-7 is talking abt d time of Noah Gen. 7.
Jere 4v23-26 is talking abt future judgment 2pt 3v10,11. Rev. 20v11.
Dn't b dciv! |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:33pm On May 10, 2015 |
InesQor: off course am reading dake and it makes complete sense . I once tried to theistic evolution(I didnt know it was actually a thing , I just thought evolution started after the creation of Adam since articles suggest we are evolving even now , but slowly) in sec school to make my Christian beliefs and science compatible and now I know better |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by bond77(m): 4:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
linearity: I agree, not in all cases. But sometimes the Bible speaks in figurative terms, some words can mean the opposite of what we think. Another example is that of Adam and eve when God told them that the day they should eat from the forbidden fruit, that is the day they will die. But they didn't die that same day, because Adam still lived for almost a thousand years so the rules of a day for a thousand years was still applied in this situation. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by iamord(m): 4:36pm On May 10, 2015 |
itzWarner:the truth is always bitter. If u want to speak, speak for yourself. Not everyone is as low IQ'd as you are to to grab what the op is saying . Just don't drag people into your ignoramus school of thought |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by macof(m): 4:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
Lol christianity redefined Op the bible is very clear The sun was created after the earth |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
MyMentor: explain the presence of fossils then and no , not with evolution |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by itzWarner(m): 4:38pm On May 10, 2015 |
iamord: God bless you even if you don't want bro |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by InesQor(m): 4:41pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Okay so you're sending me a link to a creationist website arguing against theistic evolution. Should I start posting links of sites arguing for theistic evolution? Personally I'm not about all of that - searching the internet to support a religious stance. People have argued these things for centuries and the arguments still continue. Most atheists believe only in evidence-based events. Science is all about evidences. Science shows that evolution occurred, so it makes sense for atheists to accept it. The difference between their views on evolution and mine is that atheists believe evolution began from a random spontaneous event, and I believe God set that thing off. Where we agree is that evolution took place at all. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by Nobody: 4:43pm On May 10, 2015 |
IYANGBALI: hen hen, i tot as much, and some guys on nairaland don sell their birthright on top her matter... shes not all dat fine sef |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by iamord(m): 4:44pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:the exact figure was not written in the Bible but one thing i am clear about is the fact that after Cain left. Adam had a child known as seth. Then later other sons and daughter. If we are looking at the time frame there is a very glaring missing link. If that's so then where from his wife.. The city.. And whosoever finds me. You didn't answer that |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by davien(m): 4:50pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:I thought I warned you to stop inviting me to your topics And as much as I don't believe in "god/gods" I can't say they/it/he/she.... did/didn't orchestrate evolution without any form of evidence or justification.. 1 Like |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:56pm On May 10, 2015 |
[quote author=InesQor post=33604787] Okay so you're sending me a link to a creationist website arguing against theistic evolution. Should I start posting links of sites arguing for theistic evolution? Personally I'm not about all of that - searching the internet to support a religious stance. People have argued these things for centuries and the arguments still continue. a. Most atheists believe only in evidence-based events. Science is all about evidences. Science shows that evolution occurred, so it makes sense for atheists to accept it.b. About evolution, you're still making things up. Evolution doesn't claim there is no need for a designer. In fact, it claims that the design is such that it enhances improvements of features in the species. Life forms were not designed Gosh, where did you read that? Or you just feel like miseducating Nairalanders? a and b are contradictory statements , I think .Maybe you can explain better , lemme not quickly draw conclusions If the product of evolution is evident that it was designed then I see no reason why atheistic evolutionists should deny God or not see Him as the cause or not see it as a supernatural process . Example below , there is no space for God in the theory according to them because there is no evidence And as much as I don't believe in "god/gods" I can't say they/it/he/she.... did/didn't orchestrate evolution without any form of evidence or justification.. The difference between their views on evolution and mine is that atheists believe evolution began from a random spontaneous event, and I believe God set that thing off. I understand that Where we agree is that evolution took place at all. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by MistadeRegal(m): 4:57pm On May 10, 2015 |
I think you need to go through thorough teaching about the Words and Works of GOD. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:04pm On May 10, 2015 |
davien: ... calm down |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by lookingfly: 5:07pm On May 10, 2015 |
OwerriChairman:i dont know what you understand by this statement"let us make man in our own image and likeness" but i agree with the op's view that adam was not actually the first man but the first man in God's image.the statement also implies that God could possibly had created man not in his image and likeness before that statement.also if they weren't other humans created by God though,not in his image and likeness,then who was it or which people was God protecting cain from by placing a mark on his forehead and who did he marry after leaving the garden of edem? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:08pm On May 10, 2015 |
iamord: its takes 9 months to bear a child .Adam lived hundreds of years before and after Cain . Adam's kids had offsprings and the offsprings had their own offsprings ... do the math |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by iamord(m): 5:15pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:no u do the math. Cain was the first son. Until the death of able there were only two offsprings. Then seth came in after. He got married around the time seth was born. Or a kid. Where did the wife now come from. Abi he married eve Foetus? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by InesQor(m): 5:16pm On May 10, 2015 |
[quote author=KingEbukasBlog post=33605269][/quote] They are not contradictory. Just try to drop all your assumptions and read what I said again. In simpler words: - Evolution doesn't care about who or wat started the process of change. What it describes is the process itself and its products, and how the process works in such a way that it improves the product. - Atheists believe evolution started by chance occurrence, by an absolute necessity at some point in time. - Adherents of theistic evolution believe God started the process. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by ogaprime(m): 5:17pm On May 10, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: One word for you... 2 peter 3:8 a lot can happen with a thousand years... |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:20pm On May 10, 2015 |
iamord: I think the bible emphasized Cain's birth because of his wicked act of murder against his brother ,Abel . Do you have proof Cain was Adam's first son? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by InesQor(m): 5:29pm On May 10, 2015 |
To clarify, evolution does not claim there's a need for a designer. Neither does it claim there is no need for one. What I do know is that it acknowledges that evolution works in a way such that it "betters" the product. To me, that can't be a random process. It must have been controlled by a prime-mover, and for me that's God. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:30pm On May 10, 2015 |
ogaprime: Exodus 20:11 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : 10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:32pm On May 10, 2015 |
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