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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ronald4lif(m): 11:28pm On May 18, 2015
DrAify:
If truly you are a doctor and don't know what stabilization is in medicine,then you are quack

Lol! Doctor sorry for bringing you into this. You really do not have to respond to comments that aren't civil and logical. Hehe!
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Kassidy90(m): 11:29pm On May 18, 2015
I av personally witnessed something like this before, twice self.
A lady came to the lab where am working about 2years ago and complained of lower abdominal pains, I asked her some questions which she lied, so I called my female colleague to collect V.Swab from her since everything she told me points to PID, so when my colleague brought out the stuffs to use there was a particular instrument " V.Speculum " that would be used to widen the V. to be able to collect the sample, when the lady saw it she started nagging that she can't allow my colleague to use it on her that she's a Virgin and that speculum can break her virginity..hmmmm we try to convince her but she didn't accept ooo, at the long run I later asked her to go downstairs for Pelvic Scan.....I can't believe the report of the scan someone claiming to be a virgin is actually having Incomplete Abortion, I was so mad I had to send her to the nearest Hospital, the point is why lying to someone u need professional help from and its so common with ladies..back to d topic RIP

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by bigass(f): 11:32pm On May 18, 2015
Evvilgenius:

IMO there's really no such thing as a wrong test. A doctor won't demand for test that is not related to his clinical findings. Even if the test comes out negative, it has only informed him that what the test is looking for is unlikely and that has further narrowed down the definitive diagnosis (by excluding what the test is to detect).. Hope you get..

And by "doctors" I don't mean those quacks (that didn't go to medical school or didn't finish) that litter the streets of Nigeria.

If someone present with chest pain and you order mri ecg and echo only to discover it's from chest muscles. After paying about 80k. I will collect my money back.
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by DrAify(f): 11:33pm On May 18, 2015
Thanks....I am done grin
ronald4lif:


Lol! Doctor sorry for bringing you into this. You really do not have to respond to comments that aren't civil and logical. Hehe!

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by sigmundfreud(m): 11:36pm On May 18, 2015
publicenemy:



This is a joke...right.
No, it's not.
There is something called PT strip.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Evvilgenius: 11:38pm On May 18, 2015
DrAify:
I never said test while bleeding.....She should have been stabilized(infusion therapy,Tranexamic acid,etc)to prevent shock and exploratory laparatomy should be done afterwards to find out the cause.


Lol. Infusing an actively bleeding patient will do little. It is of utmost important to locate the source of, and arrest the bleeding. Only blood transfusion will be of much help in this case and no one knows what the health center in question is like.
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ozo13(m): 11:42pm On May 18, 2015
Haba ds is Nigeria. D way u mentioned all ds stuf is not as easy as u think bro.may God guide us all.a patient telling d doctor d whole truth is required in making a correct diagnosis.if we r to continue blaming d doctor, some of us dat r meant to learn from d post to always tel doctors d truth may not have learnt anything from d post d way ppl r jus blaming d doctor.
ronald4lif:


If you have chest pain and tell a doctor he's expected to offer you a pain-relieve, assurance, and other first aid assistance why he refer you to an abdominal chest scan, ultrasound etc to ascertain what exactly the problem is before prescribing any further medications or procedure. Same for most ailment except in rare case of critical condition.

That's the conventional practice in NHS where I'm very familiar with. Anyone in the UK and Europe can prove me wrong on this.
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by nationwide1(m): 11:44pm On May 18, 2015
The doctor also contributed to the girl's death.
Good history, examination and appropriate investigation should have exposed the girl's lie and saved her life.

Asking her for her last menstruation date, urgent PT, urgent PCV and abdominopelvic ultrasound scan should have saved that girl.

That doctor should have taken his time to ensure the basic things were done.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Evvilgenius: 11:44pm On May 18, 2015
bigass:


If someone present with chest pain and you order mri ecg and echo only to discover it's from chest muscles. After paying about 80k. I will collect my money back.

Lol. A doc won't just order for those. Chest pain can be from the lungs, heart, chest wall, pleura etc. A doc will most certainly know where it's from by asking you questions and won't just jump into investigations.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by LEGSTRONG(m): 11:49pm On May 18, 2015
Na wa Medical practice in this country is unbelievable. Why resort to surgical intervention without doin a SCAN? A simple ultrasound scan would have indicated that she was bleeding internally.
So many quack hospitals around God help us all......

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ozo13(m): 11:50pm On May 18, 2015
Evvilgenius:


Lol. Infusing an actively bleeding patient will do little. It is of utmost important to locate the source of, and arrest the bleeding. Only blood transfusion will be of much help in this case and no one knows what the health center in question is like.
Dr vs Dr .Johesu ppl r watching u guys...Bt on a serious note, I think d lesson from d post is jus to advice patients to always be truthful with dr doctors.all ds una stufs isn't necessary
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ozodigboo(m): 11:52pm On May 18, 2015
Ok, we're all here to learn, but this e-bashing amongst medical colleagues should stop.
I think its wrong to apportion blames without hearing from the doc.
We were taught that d 1st line of practice is History Taking [ to non-medicals, it means '' asking questions'' ]. Unless d patient is in coma.
If d babe says she's a virgin, will u stick in ur finger to confirm ? u'll go to jail.
Or u want to use a speculum to check ?
Someone said pumping IV fluids into an actively bleeding patient is useless..........i agree.
Dr Aify talked about stabilisation......i agree....who told u d doc didn't stabilize ? We don't know how much time was wasted at the previous hospital.
Some of these tests take time, even getting blood from d bloodbank takes time.......we don't even know how local d hospital is.
I still maintain dt without hearing from d doc, i can't blame him.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ozo13(m): 11:56pm On May 18, 2015
LEGSTRONG:
Na wa Medical practice in this country is unbelievable. Why resort to surgical intervention without doin a SCAN? A simple ultrasound scan would have indicated that she was bleeding internally.
So many quack hospitals around God help us all......
alot need to be done bro.d other day I read online dat nma closed down 131 illegal hospital jus in one local govt in nasarawa state..please to d doctors in da house , wn eva u think a px condition is complex for u to manage , please sharperly refer d person to a specialist hospital
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by sainty2k3(m): 11:58pm On May 18, 2015
DrAify:
I never said test while bleeding.....She should have been stabilized(infusion therapy,Tranexamic acid,etc)to prevent shock and exploratory laparatomy should be done afterwards to find out the cause.

Good analysis and medical reasoning so far, however I think u are too quick in castigating the 'phantom' Doctor in question, I'm no expecting any Doctor to believe that a colleague will diagnosed someone bleeding PV as appendicitis, or will open a patient up for ex lap looking for the Appendix and will not see the intraperitoneum bleeding here. Though I've witness a situation similar to this but I'm sure this story has a lot of seasoning. So let's calm down and enjoy the story we are being fed with

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Nobody: 11:58pm On May 18, 2015
Her ordeal ought to be reconstructed on the program "A 1000 ways to die"

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Decryptor(m): 11:59pm On May 18, 2015
Onila...Please take note! angry angry
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by kroseewills(m): 12:01am On May 19, 2015
ronald4lif:
In saner climes, that doctor risk losing his licence for negligence of duty. He ought to carry out appropriate medical test and not rely on the patient's account. A doctor should diagnose ailment before proceeding with any treatment and not rely on patients account of symptoms. He really have a lot to answer.

DrAify and KingTom, what are your take on this.
Well,in a bid to lessen ur ignorance,a diagnostic test is nt d first tin to do in a case of emergency..y should he carry out a test first in a dying patient..first is to resuscitate d patient,den to arrest bleeding,find d aetiology den treat...all by d most expedient route..
bt d girl misled d doctor which led to delay in finding d aetiology n led to severe complications i.e massive loss of blood,shock,perhaps infection den death
so tink again,does d doctor have anytin to answer?
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by ozo13(m): 12:03am On May 19, 2015
ozodigboo:
Ok, we're all here to learn, but this e-bashing amongst medical colleagues should stop.
I think its wrong to apportion blames without hearing from the doc.
We were taught that d 1st line of practice is History Taking [ to non-medicals, it means '' asking questions'' ]. Unless d patient is in coma.
If d babe says she's a virgin, will u stick in ur finger to confirm ? u'll go to jail.
Or u want to use a speculum to check ?
Someone said pumping IV fluids into an actively bleeding patient is useless..........i agree.
Dr Aify talked about stabilisation......i agree....who told u d doc didn't stabilize ? We don't know how much time was wasted at the previous hospital.
Some of these tests take time, even getting blood from d bloodbank takes time.......we don't even know how local d hospital is.
I still maintain dt without hearing from d doc, i can't blame him.
correct man

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by perfectionist(m): 12:07am On May 19, 2015
Abdominal pain, abdominal distention and pallor in a girl/woman of child-bearing age are typical signs and symptoms of a ruptured ectopic. Agreed.
However, a neglected ruptured appendix can give a very similar picture since it will inevitably result in peritonitis and septicaemia with its attendant DIC and anaemia. Ditto for a typhoid perforation.
Being an emergency, there may or may not have been enough time to conduct investigations to shed more light on the diagnosis. So, the doctor bears little or no responsibility for the misdiagnosis. It is entirely the patient's fault.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Leopantro: 12:13am On May 19, 2015
To everyone that have made a comment on this thread, how many times have you told the doctor the truth when he or she asks "how many bottles of alcohol do you drink and for how long have you been drinking?" or "how long have you smoked and how many sticks in a day?"

Have seen cases where the girl will claim she's a Virgin and she had massive fibroid while the babies head is coming out of her.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by dbest01: 12:19am On May 19, 2015
This is bad. *sad face*
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Nobody: 12:22am On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
Blame the slut shaming African culture

For real...
Was it Africa she lied to or her doctors undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by lassbaby(f): 12:33am On May 19, 2015
CR77:
lol
d Dr made a mistake for not sending her USS than using only wat d client TLD him. so d Dr is a good one
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by kroseewills(m): 12:44am On May 19, 2015
so shameful dat fellows of dis generation still practise d same egoistic attitude we all abhorred in our lecturers n consultants..y wont Johesu gain grounds wen doctors lack unity
Even doctors i feel knw little clinicals wt dia toxic stuff still b forming "i knw it all".What a shame.I pity their patients cos these r d persons who make d worst mistakes.
D girl lost her life due to late diagnosis (as a result of her lie) n also severe complications of d bleeding
D ability of d doctor to have asked for a hx of sexual intercourse shows he had an ectopic in mind n so vindicates him..yet a so-called fellow types d keyboard to crucify him...some persons r just too preachy indeed..n i knw they knw notin..had a lot of dem in med school..i hope they get wiser

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Edusouls(m): 12:48am On May 19, 2015
Girls are cursed with chronic lying,they lie about everything that u dont even know which one is the truth, the only truth that comes out from their deceitful tongue is goodmorning..this girl lied and lied and lied and over lied,that she lied even to herself in the midst of danger of loosing her own life,she lied herself to the grave,and that is a disaster cos the lie may end her up in hell...
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by perezzi: 12:50am On May 19, 2015
ronald4lif:
In saner climes, that doctor risk losing his licence for negligence of duty. He ought to carry out appropriate medical test and not rely on the patient's account. A doctor should diagnose ailment before proceeding with any treatment and not rely on patients account of symptoms. He really have a lot to answer.

DrAify and KingTom, what are your take on this.

you do not understand What you are saying. So, you are saying the doctor should have investigated virginity (/pregnancy) in an emergency situation.
ask your doctor What acute abdomen means.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by kliq(m): 1:30am On May 19, 2015
ERCROSS:


broh... U nailed it...
Dat gurl wey dey always claim virgin on NL like say na chieftaincy title... grin cheesy
lipsrsealed





cheesy
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by lordmario(m): 1:38am On May 19, 2015
Wrong move by the girl. You should never lie to 3 people; your counselor, your lawyer and most importantly your doctor.

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Nobody: 1:38am On May 19, 2015
Are nigerian doctors so judgemental?

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Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by Kcinho(m): 1:58am On May 19, 2015
Kassidy90:
I av personally witnessed something like this before, twice self.
A lady came to the lab where am working about 2years ago and complained of lower abdominal pains, I asked her some questions which she lied, so I called my female colleague to collect V.Swab from her since everything she told me points to PID, so when my colleague brought out the stuffs to use there was a particular instrument " V.Speculum " that would be used to widen the V. to be able to collect the sample, when the lady saw it she started nagging that she can't allow my colleague to use it on her that she's a Virgin and that speculum can break her virginity..hmmmm we try to convince her but she didn't accept ooo, at the long run I later asked her to go downstairs for Pelvic Scan.....I can't believe the report of the scan someone claiming to be a virgin is actually having Incomplete Abortion, I was so mad I had to send her to the nearest Hospital, the point is why lying to someone u need professional help from and its so common with ladies..back to d topic RIP
but would you have used a Cusco on her if she was actually a virgin?
Re: Girl Dies After Lying To Doctors She's A Virgin When She Was Pregnant & Bleeding by KA24DETT(m): 2:00am On May 19, 2015
ronald4lif:
In saner climes, that doctor risk losing his licence for negligence of duty. He ought to carry out appropriate medical test and not rely on the patient's account. A doctor should diagnose ailment before proceeding with any treatment and not rely on patients account of symptoms. He really have a lot to answer.

DrAify and KingTom, what are your take on this.


If it was over here, the Doctor is definitely losing her license. For a woman, differential diagnosis for lower abdominal pain is numerious ranging from Ectopic pregnancy, ovarian cyst rupture, ovarian torsion, appendicitis, crohn disease, arterial embolism. Its not the girls fault. The physician is not trained properly and should be sued for malpractise insurance. Okay, lets imagine the doctor is still going for appendicitis, a common ultrasound will suffice. Am even going too far, A digit exam of the vagina and tenderness of the adnexa will go along way in helping. This is commmon 3rd year medical student work. . Most of Nigerian doctors are good but the bad ones gives them a bad rap

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