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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:44pm On May 23, 2015
joeace2020:

That is if some new tap master, freekick n penalty specialist is not already scoring 100 league goals in that awful league by then...
Guy calm down. The La Liga might have its shortcomings. But u keep calling it awful. Mind u, this awful league is producing anoda UCL finalist in two yrs. Wen last did any team from ur precious EPL produce a UCL finalist? Fact is the other 18 teams in La Liga are crap. But fact remains that the Top 2 are still better than the Top 4 in EPL. Ronaldo and Messi might not score as much if they come to EPL. But they'd still mke waves in d league anyways
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 11:47pm On May 23, 2015
coogar:


he won't......
it's more difficult to score here. the intensity is higher here & there is no winter break for ronaldo to refresh.

Ronaldo had almost no winter break, they were in Morocco playing CWC, and then to Dubai to play some meaningless friendlies!

If Suarez can score 31 goals without PK'S , not the 1st choice for freekicks and missing about 7-8 games, tell me why Ronaldo won't score more than 40 here?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:51pm On May 23, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Guy calm down. The La Liga might have its shortcomings. But u keep calling it awful. Mind u, this awful league is producing anoda UCL finalist in two yrs. Wen last did any team from ur precious EPL produce a UCL finalist? Fact is the other 18 teams in La Liga are crap. But fact remains that the Top 2 are still better than the Top 4 in EPL. Ronaldo and Messi might not score as much if they come to EPL. But they'd still mke waves in d league anyways

but that's the point.....
the best talents in la liga are all concentrated in 2-3 clubs. imagine the same scenario where kane, costa, aguero, RVP, rooney, hazard, sanchez, ozil are shared by the top 2 english clubs. where do you think the EPL clubs would be finishing every season?

how come no other club apart from madrid & barca have won the champions league? in the last 10 years, 3 english clubs have won it. the strength of the EPL is fairly distributed among the 20 clubs. the strength of la liga is within barca & madrid and this is why ronaldo can score 48 league goals in one season.

homesteady:

Ronaldo had almost no winter break, they were in Morocco playing CWC, and then to Dubai to play some meaningless friendlies!
If Suarez can score 31 goals without PK'S , not the 1st choice for freekicks and missing about 7-8 games, tell me why Ronaldo won't score more than 40 here?

ronaldo was here before he went to madrid. his personal best was 31 league goals including pens & freekicks. he couldn't even replicate his form the following year with thugs like shawcross & richard dunne on his case. EPL is not where any striker can score 40 league goals in one season.

it can never happen!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 11:58pm On May 23, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
[Quote author=joeace2020 post=34037682]

That is if some new tap master, freekick n penalty specialist is not already scoring 100 league goals in that awful league by then... Guy calm down. The La Liga might have its shortcomings. But u keep calling it awful. Mind u, this awful league is producing anoda UCL finalist in two yrs. Wen last did any team from ur precious EPL produce a UCL finalist? Fact is the other 18 teams in La Liga are crap. But fact remains that the Top 2 are still better than the Top 4 in EPL. Ronaldo and Messi might not score as much if they come to EPL. But they'd still mke waves in d league anyways

For the last ten years, has any English club won more European trophies than Sevilla and Atletico Madrid?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:15am On May 24, 2015
homesteady:


For the last ten years, has any English club won more European trophies than Sevilla and Atletico Madrid?

it's a distraction for the english clubs
europa cup is like a disease they love to avoid. they already have an extra competition called the carling cup.....why would they want to play europa when they stand to make more money if they survive in the premier league.

this is an example....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swanseas-ashley-williams-admits-relieved-5719871
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:18am On May 24, 2015
homesteady:


For the last ten years, has any English club won more European trophies than Sevilla and Atletico Madrid?
Depends on wst u call European trophies. Both Sevilla and Atletico spend most of their time in the Europa League with Atletico being regulars in the UCL now. So i dont think we can judge based on dat
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:28am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


but that's the point.....
the best talents in la liga are all concentrated in 2-3 clubs. imagine the same scenario where kane, costa, aguero, RVP, rooney, hazard, sanchez, ozil are shared by the top 2 english clubs. where do you think the EPL clubs would be finishing every season?

how come no other club apart from madrid & barca have won the champions league? in the last 10 years, 3 english clubs have won it. the strength of the EPL is fairly distributed among the 20 clubs. the strength of la liga is within barca & madrid and this is why ronaldo can score 48 league goals in one season.



ronaldo was here before he went to madrid. his personal best was 31 league goals including pens & freekicks. he couldn't even replicate his form the following year with thugs like shawcross & richard dunne on his case. EPL is not where any striker can score 40 league goals in one season.

it can never happen!
Thats the point. Madrid and Barca are just too good for the rest of the league. That doesn't mean the league is awful as he claims.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:32am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


ronaldo was here before he went to madrid. his personal best was 31 league goals including pens & freekicks. he couldn't even replicate his form the following year with thugs like shawcross & richard dunne on his case. EPL is not where any striker can score 40 league goals in one season.

it can never happen!

He left EPL about 6 years ago, Do you expect his development to be stagnant?
his 1st year in la liga, he scored 26 goals, but he kept on developing and he now scores 48!

If Suarez took Liverpool PK'S and all their freekicks and he didn't miss the 1st 7 games, wouldn't he have scored at least 45 goals?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:47am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


it's a distraction for the english clubs
europa cup is like a disease they love to avoid. they already have an extra competition called the carling cup.....why would they want to play europa when they stand to make more money if they survive in the premier league.

this is an example....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swanseas-ashley-williams-admits-relieved-5719871

Lmaoooooooooooo! This was the same silly excuse that made UEFA to make a new rule that the Europa cup winner will qualify directly for Champions league!
But still, all the English clubs got kicked out in the early stages gringrin

Is there any English club that doesn't want to partake in UCL? Was to qualify for UCL not Van gaal target for this season?
Arsenal players celebrating finishing fourth on the table because they qualified for Champions League play off oh gringrin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:50am On May 24, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Depends on wst u call European trophies. Both Sevilla and Atletico spend most of their time in the Europa League with Atletico being regulars in the UCL now. So i dont think we can judge based on dat

English clubs also qualify for the Europa League!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:23am On May 24, 2015
homesteady:


English clubs also qualify for the Europa League!
Abeg. Issit Spurs and Everton u want to be comparing wit Atletico and Sevilla
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:24am On May 24, 2015
homesteady:


Lmaoooooooooooo! This was the same silly excuse that made UEFA to make a new rule that the Europa cup winner will qualify directly for Champions league!
But still, all the English clubs got kicked out in the early stages gringrin

Is there any English club that doesn't want to partake in UCL? Was to qualify for UCL not Van gaal target for this season?
Arsenal players celebrating finishing fourth on the table because they qualified for Champions League play off oh gringrin



Thats Arsenal na. They re a small club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:27am On May 24, 2015
I remember telling my friends afta last season dat i was happy we didn't qualify for Europa. Playing on Thursdays and having to play on Saturdays is one good way to get players fatigued. We wont ve made top 4 if we were in Europa dis season wit dis our current squad....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:49am On May 24, 2015
LA Liga is awful yet atletico the 3rd best Spanish team has done better than any English club in the past 2 champions League.

LA Liga is awful and sevilla are in European finals again.

Of The last 8 teams to make finals in European competition 5 are from LA Liga

Of the last 6 uefa super cups LA Liga has won 5

What a awful league

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:55am On May 24, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Abeg. Issit Spurs and Everton u want to be comparing wit Atletico and Sevilla

Liverpool was also disgraced out of europa while Sevilla and Villarreal made it to quarters
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 7:28am On May 24, 2015
The EPL is over rated, chelsea and arsenal were dumped out by crappy french teams, everton were raped, loserpool sodomized, the only thing helping EPL is the hype.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:35am On May 24, 2015
raumdeuter:
LA Liga is awful yet atletico the 3rd best Spanish team has done better than any English club in the past 2 champions League.

LA Liga is awful and sevilla are in European finals again.

Of The last 8 teams to make finals in European competition 5 are from LA Liga

Of the last 6 uefa super cups LA Liga has won 5

What a awful league

la liga is dog awful!
la liga teams take europa cup very seriously - it's extra revenue for them especially when they are paid pea-nuts with barca/madrid getting the lion share of the TV revenue.

EPL teams hate europa cup. it's an extra burden to them considering the fact they play carling cup(there's no equivalent of it in spain & germany). besides that, the FA have no mercy with their fixtures. you go to europa on thursday night & you are expected to play in the league by sunday noon.

EPL teams who go to europa perform below their normal standard in the league. it's a needless distraction that doesn't even pay much, english teams would rather finish high on the league table than pursue europa cup. relegating teams in england make more money than europa cup champions.

even when chelsea won it in 2013, they were ridiculed that they won a mickey-mouse cup. na impoverished teams like sevilla, athletico madrid, leverkusen, etc dey celebrate europa. the competition is seen as a curse in england. so shut up already about the number of teams that have won it in spain.

la liga is awful - only 2 teams have won the champions league there. EPL is the best - 5 different teams have won the champions league in england. the strength of a league isn't about only 2 clubs. it should encompass the entire teams in the league. when you have 90% of the talents in la liga playing for 2 clubs, it becomes a joke!


homesteady:

Lmaoooooooooooo! This was the same silly excuse that made UEFA to make a new rule that the Europa cup winner will qualify directly for Champions league!
But still, all the English clubs got kicked out in the early stages gringrin
Is there any English club that doesn't want to partake in UCL? Was to qualify for UCL not Van gaal target for this season?
Arsenal players celebrating finishing fourth on the table because they qualified for Champions League play off oh gringrin


stop flip-flopping & stay in one argument.
your initial argument was europa, why are you bringing champions league to it? was it europa cup arsenal celebrated? this was the question you asked....

For the last ten years, has any English club won more European trophies than Sevilla and Atletico Madrid?

the european trophies won by sevilla & athletico madrid, which of them is the champions league? if there's none then your rejoinder to my post is irrelevant. english teams take champions league seriously but they don't take europa seriously. stop mixing the two. arsenal qualified for UCL, sevilla/athletico won europa cup.

apples & oranges......

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 7:37am On May 24, 2015
La liga isn't an easy league, to me its stronger dan de EPL, Ronaldo and messi de make de league look easy; just remove both of dem 4rm dat league you go know say no be only madrid and barca sabi win league, last season wey messi and barca no too play well you no see how atletico take grab dia chance ??, madrid barca atletico valencia sevilla villareal dem no be beans., suarez murder both shawcross and dunne 4 epl he went to barcelona den him see say level pass level, wen aguero de atletico him no de even dream about golden boot now him don cum EPL him don be king 4 golden boot race, atletico disgrace our current league champions last season, people like liverpool na besikitas knock dem out 4 europa, fiorentina knock tottenham, dynamo kiev murder everton, den fiorentina dat knocked out spurs got raped by sevilla, aggregate score de read 5-0 so wetin you una wan yarn again, cool down wen man-u go meet valencia 4 play-off you go know how far.. EPL de decieve dia selves with mumu teams de talk say na 6teams de challenge 4 title

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:48am On May 24, 2015
weedtaker:
La liga isn't an easy league, to me its stronger dan de EPL, Ronaldo and messi de make de league look easy; just remove both of dem 4rm dat league you go know say no be only madrid and barca sabi win league, last season wey messi and barca no too play well you no see how atletico take grab dia chance ??, madrid barca atletico valencia sevilla villareal dem no be beans., suarez murder both shawcross and dunne 4 epl he went to barcelona den him see say level pass level, wen aguero de atletico him no de even dream about golden boot now him don cum EPL him don be king 4 golden boot race, atletico disgrace our current league champions last season, people like liverpool na besikitas knock dem out 4 europa, fiorentina knock tottenham, dynamo kiev murder everton, den fiorentina dat knocked out spurs got raped by sevilla, aggregate score de read 5-0 so wetin you una wan yarn again, cool down wen man-u go meet valencia 4 play-off you go know how far.. EPL de decieve dia selves with mumu teams de talk say na 6teams de challenge 4 title

la liga is an easy league.
suarez was well-rested when he got banned. besides, he played in fewer competitions last season. there were at least 6-7 days rest for him between his games. he was fresh & he took his opportunities with aplomb.

before then, what was his goal stats? suarez was the highest goal scorer in eredivisie before he arrived in january 2011. he scored a miserable 4 goals in 11 games that season. 13 goals in 31 the following year. what's so hot about those numbers? then if you consider EPL rejects like forlan, kanoute, giuseppe rossi, old ruud van nistelrooy all became living legends in la liga.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 7:54am On May 24, 2015
Some people can sabi talk rubbish shaaaa


Happy Sunday, Folks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 7:54am On May 24, 2015
If english teams hate europa wetin make dem de qualify 4rm group stage, why dem no just crash out 4rm group stage so dat dem go focus well to finish high 4 dia precious league.. RUBBiSH!!! How many english teams make am to UCL last 8? Una current league champions were knocked out by french league champions and de frnch league champions den got raped by la liga champions, arsenal own na different case, man city nkor?? Dat means if madrid and barca cum to epl wit dis dia current squard dem go share de epl within demselves 4 de next 10 years because EPL defenders NIGHTMAREs (suarez and bale) are cumin back not to talk of ronaldo and messi de level 6 forwards as described by coogar.. Mehn 4get de media hyping mourinho with him full squard go trophyless 4 madrid him even loose cup final 4 him own team ground, how many teams beat mourinho 4 home 4 EPL dis season? Though our tikt taka never too bad see how we de dominate teams not to talk of barca wey don blend already, wen we don sign more players and sum of our players cum peak dia best form we go just de murder teams 4 england as bayern de do 4 germany
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 7:55am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


la liga is an easy league.
suarez was well-rested when he got banned. besides, he played in fewer competitions last season. there were at least 6-7 days rest for him between his games. he was fresh & he took his opportunities with aplomb.

before then, what was his goal stats? suarez was the highest goal scorer in eredivisie before he arrived in january 2011. he scored a miserable 4 goals in 11 games that season. 13 goals in 31 the following year. what's so hot about those numbers? then if you consider EPL rejects like forlan, kanoute, giuseppe rossi, old ruud van nistelrooy all became living legends in la liga.
Today na sunday... no follow some peeps argue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:57am On May 24, 2015
weedtaker:
If english teams hate europa wetin make dem de qualify 4rm group stage, why dem no just crash out 4rm group stage so dat dem go focus well to finish high 4 dia precious league.. RUBBiSH!!! How many english teams make am to UCL last 8? Una current league champions were knocked out by french league champions and de frnch league champions den got raped by la liga champions, arsenal own na different case, man city nkor?? Dat means if madrid and barca cum to epl wit dis dia current squard dem go share de epl within demselves 4 de next 10 years because EPL defenders NIGHTMAREs (suarez and bale) are cumin back not to talk of ronaldo and messi de level 6 forwards as described by coogar.. Mehn 4get de media hyping mourinho with him full squard go trophyless 4 madrid him even loose cup final 4 him own team ground, how many teams beat mourinho 4 EPL dis season? Though our tikt taka never too bad see how we de dominate teams not to talk of wen we don sign more players and sum of our players cum peak dia best form we go just de murder teams 4 england as bayern de do 4 germany

if la liga teams come to the EPL, barca & madrid wouldn't even finish in the top 4. they get £150m each from their TV revenue while the other 18 clubs get £30m each. it's this big money that pays the wages of their star players. in the EPL, TV money is shared fairly equally. without £150m to spend, madrid & barca wouldn't have any advantage over the EPL clubs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:01am On May 24, 2015
weedtaker:
If english teams hate europa wetin make dem de qualify 4rm group stage, why dem no just crash out 4rm group stage so dat dem go focus well to finish high 4 dia precious league.. RUBBiSH!!! How many english teams make am to UCL last 8? Una current league champions were knocked out by french league champions and de frnch league champions den got raped by la liga champions, arsenal own na different case, man city nkor?? Dat means if madrid and barca cum to epl wit dis dia current squard dem go share de epl within demselves 4 de next 10 years because EPL defenders NIGHTMAREs (suarez and bale) are cumin back not to talk of ronaldo and messi de level 6 forwards as described by coogar.. Mehn 4get de media hyping mourinho with him full squard go trophyless 4 madrid him even loose cup final 4 him own team ground, how many teams beat mourinho 4 EPL dis season? Though our tikt taka never too bad see how we de dominate teams not to talk of wen we don sign more players and sum of our players cum peak dia best form we go just de murder teams 4 england as bayern de do 4 germany
Bros ah expect better yarns from you...

The com3 a time things change... For the past 3 seasons epl haven't lived up to their expectations in europe... that doesn't change the fact... That epl is fvcking competitive

I can remember wen bale made a comment that liga was beta than epl... Mourihno vex reply am sharperly

He knows epl is more competitive and vigorous than liga, serie a etc

That's one of the reasons why some players choose spain... [Barca, Madrid]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:04am On May 24, 2015
Mind u nistelrooy was a world class centre forward and he left at de peak of his career forlan din't settle well in de EPL, KANOUTE WAS A BRILLIANT forward too in de epl just dat spurs no too strong dat time and berbatov was better dan him wen he arrived, rossi no get chance to play so no jugde am
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:07am On May 24, 2015
@weedtaker tjis our tikitaka will come ghuud next season

Look at what happened 2nd part of the season

We dominated 96% of the matches we played

The only way our opponents were able to get at us, was to pack the bus .... Look for a slight mistake then counter.. Boom dhey score.. . Thanks to mumu valencia shaaa and yeye Jones with his dummy back passes

I hope those fools will be relegated to cup games
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:08am On May 24, 2015
weedtaker:
Mind u nistelrooy was a world class centre forward and he left at de peak of his career forlan din't settle well in de EPL, KANOUTE WAS A BRILLIANT forward too in de epl tottenham just dat spurs no too strong dat time and berbatov was better dan him wen he arrived, rossi no get chance to play so no jugde am

nistelrooy was finished when he left for la liga. he was 30 years of age. he won the pichichi instantly in la liga. no excuses of acclimatization. mention one la liga import that has won the EPL golden boot in his first season in england.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:10am On May 24, 2015
weedtaker:
Mind u nistelrooy was a world class centre forward and he left at de peak of his career forlan din't settle well in de EPL, KANOUTE WAS A BRILLIANT forward too in de epl just dat spurs no too strong dat time and berbatov was better dan him wen he arrived, rossi no get chance to play so no jugde am
Bros leave that thing jooooor
Epl is tougher... accept that fact... The reason chelsea weren't beaten at their home was they're always afraid of loosing by playing an archaic style of football... The rada draw than loose
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:11am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


nistelrooy was finished when he left for la liga. he was 30 years of age. he won the pichichi instantly in la liga. no excuses of acclimatization. mention one la liga import that has won the EPL golden boot in his first season in england.
Ermmmmm... None

Even our beckham became part of their integral team [madrid] beckham wen been don finish
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:13am On May 24, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
Ermmmmm... None

well......that settles it then!
i will score 40 goals in la liga if i play for any of barca or madrid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:15am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


well......that settles it then!
i will score 40 goals in la liga if i play for any of barca or madrid.
I thought chelsea fans said that costa will tear epl defence apart.. .. what now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:16am On May 24, 2015
coogar:


nistelrooy was finished when he left for la liga. he was 30 years of age. he won the pichichi instantly in la liga. no excuses of acclimatization. mention one la liga import that has won the EPL golden boot in his first season in england.
just like i said, he was a worldclass centre forward ( and bro na u finish am?) and wen he arrived in madrid he was one of dia 1st choice striker and formed a great parnership with raul, abi u no see him first season in a united shirt (eredivise striker o) na hit him be o. and back den we no get a CURRENT ronaldo and messi type of player, though i can't remember any la liga dat won a golden in de EPL on his debut season but most of dem are all instant hits michu arguero sanchez and costa are all examples

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