onetrack:
It's amazing how religious people become when people mention homosexuality. But mention divorce, greed, GLUTTONY, and fornication and religion goes into hiding.....

Religion does not "go into hiding". The Bible expressly condemns all those vices you mentioned. The reason homosexuality seems to be getting special mention is the attempt by a brainwashed group to portray it as 'normal' or acceptable, even by Biblical standards, which is lie from the pit of hell.

For what its worth, I'm yet to come across anyone who would try to justify stealing or fornication - you dont see people forming an association of proud fornicators!

Bottom line, sin is sin, whether homosexuality or fornication or stealing. Those involved should repent and be saved. Shalom

nwaezeubom:


Now, that is uncalled for! You want him to be ashamed of what, that he is wired differently? You should be ashamed of your self for not respecting humanity. How do u explain genesis 1:31. I refused to live a country where people of different orientations are blamed for the ill of society. if I were you I will go out there and commit suicide for the way u shun this guy. I am not gay, and I will never be gay, you guys talk about human right as if human right is not gay right. My heart broke for my country of origin, where is our conscience and how can we all not empathize with our fellow mankind? You need to look for this guy and apologize to him or you go out there and bury your face in shame.

you said u not a gay or you just want to show that u know how to speak English. Mr man before u say some think twice ok,I repeat my sef if u don't understand me before,God never said to Adam I give u Adam to be ur helper but he gave Eve to him.get that in ur brain.peace in

xtervaganza:
im a moralist, and ive come to realise all religions are man made



i do believe in spirits though and the invoking of it(thats what religious people do)

so u want to tell me that u know what is right and what is wrong and u r here deceiving ur sef.i still repeat my sef,God never gave Adam ADAM,God gave him Eve as a helper so pulse ur moralist and look for a counselor to turn ur brain back cos I see ur brain is not normal.peace in

Jogbaje please respond to this
The desire of women is either a god women worshipped like Tammuz or Adonis or something women desire to have and that is messiah.

To give credence to this, look at this woman's reaction to Messiah;
Luke 11:27-28 (ESV)
27 As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” 28 But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”

The Jewish women scripturally and historically regarded it a privilege to mother a King of Israel and Jesus was King. Look at how Mary spoke of herself;
Luke 1:48 (ESV)
48 for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant.
For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;
of course Jesus disabused this notion by declaring his faithful disciples as more blessed.

You are in the middle of being told what the character:antiChrist will despise. It's quite a stretch to jump into his sexual orientation and then resume enumerating what he will despise. Whatever desire for/women is, it must be some divinity as the gods of his fathers before it,and 'any other god' after it.

A third and simple explanation of the term could be the guy is a eunuch, celibate. Lacking desire for women does not automatically make one gay. Homosexuality is sexual attraction to members of the same sex and not merely lack of attraction to those of the opposite.

PS:
This is not to mean that he won't be gay, just that there is no such evidence from this verse. Let's rightly divide the Word of God regardless of how we feel or believe about homosexuality

Joagbaje:


Are you gay? It's not an orientation. It's demonic . Just as sleeping with dead bodies or sleeping with animals . I've helped many out of it

Must u always sell your market- I have helped many out of it
its I and not GOD any longer

doofanc:


Religion does not "go into hiding". The Bible expressly condemns all those vices you mentioned. The reason homosexuality seems to be getting special mention is the attempt by a brainwashed group to portray it as 'normal' or acceptable, even by Biblical standards, which is lie from the pit of hell.

For what its worth, I'm yet to come across anyone who would try to justify stealing or fornication - you dont see people forming an association of proud fornicators!

Bottom line, sin is sin, whether homosexuality or fornication or stealing. Those involved should repent and be saved. Shalom

But there is no specific law against fornication or divorce or gluttony. And some people are quite proud of their big stomachs or their success with women.

listica:
so u want to tell me that u know what is right and what is wrong and u r here deceiving ur sef.i still repeat my sef,God never gave Adam ADAM,God gave him Eve as a helper so pulse ur moralist and look for a counselor to turn ur brain back cos I see ur brain is not normal.peace in

what if I tell you your bible is made up of contradictory lies?




Did you know your christian god is responsible for slavery? Did you know God endorsed slavery?



Any African worshiping the Christian god is a foolish fool

shadowgwalker:
sorry bro, don't mistake me for ur papa. U knnow u were adopted, I'm straighter than u can imagine.

weeeak!i expected more from u, wimp!

No be d same punishment bros..i hate to dey imagine dat tin. (Homo) if i have my way, na to employ some jobless pple, pay dem well. So dat they can capture any fool wey dey practice dat shit...bros no try am oo, ur name sounds like edo name, u na my broda..abeg babes dey sweet o, test and see...if u havent...u no go support dos fools again..

dabosuker:


if we say we as humans are not perfect, then how can you not agree that they were born that way?
Lying is not a Sin? stealing is not a Sin? Fornication , Adultery , rape etc are not Sins the real sins/sinners are out there & people are focusing on Sexual orientation?..I just dont get it...
especially with us Christians, we agree we are not perfect beings, even though we are created by a perfect being....which i dont also get, yet here we are criticizing an imperfect being, especially for something they have no control over(sexual orientation), ever since i was born i always knew it in me that i was attracted to the opposite sex, because i was wired so, nobody taught me to be straight, have you ever thought if its the same for the gay male/female next door, before crucifying them? nobody teaches a puppy it has to hump a Dam, the puppy knows so, cause it was wired that way , so its the same here . if we are creations , and we are not perfect, then why cant we accept gay people? how can we refer to them as demonic, did they create themselves? In my humble opinion we (humans) are like products rolled out of a factory & as such there exist within us "factory defects", which are not useless, in fact most times a few factory defects all get bundled up with the others & they still end up with the consumer, its like throwing away a bottle of fanta i bought , just because the liquid content was up to the brim of the bottle.

Hey bruv, u ve a point and at the same time u don't. Now, lying is a sin, stealing is a sin, fornication/adultery is also a sin. What is not right is not right. Yes u re attracted to opposite sex cos u didn't allow ur mind to be warped by the intrigues of the devil. Nobody was wired to be attracted to the same sex. All these that God created them dat way are LIES FROM THE DEEPEST OF DEEP OF HELL FIRE. The God we serve never makes mistakes, will never do also. He created Adam and saw he won't live alone. He took his rib and formed a helper as a woman. Why didn't God take d rib and form another man? Jesus was born through a woman, all of us were born thru a woman. Can a man make a man pregnant? Likewise a woman? No. They adopt children or do surrogate motherhood. Is a woman not however involved? You see, d devil is on the prowl and needs to gather so many pple to hell and LGBT are sure banker if they don't repent.
Boss, why did God destroy Sodom and Gommorah? That should be a classic eye opener. Before it was done in closets until recently wen they gained serious momentum. Y were dey hiding in d 1st place? They know it's wrong and a sin. Me committing fornication wit a woman, though a sin but acceptable. But committing with another man is 'gosh' a sin, unacceptable, irritating, stupid, devilish etc. God said don't judge, but mehn we can fairly say they are lost souls and u know wat that mins. I pray to make heaven despite my imperfections. Heaven is really beautiful according to the Bible. It's well. They should b a religious campaign against homo

vooks:
Jogbaje please respond to this
The desire of women is either a god women worshipped like Tammuz or Adonis or something women desire to have and that is messiah.

To give credence to this, look at this woman's reaction to Messiah;
Luke 11:27-28 (ESV)
27 As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” 28 But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”

The Jewish women scripturally and historically regarded it a privilege to mother a King of Israel and Jesus was King. Look at how Mary spoke of herself;
Luke 1:48 (ESV)
48 for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant.
For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;
of course Jesus disabused this notion by declaring his faithful disciples as more blessed.

You are in the middle of being told what the character:antiChrist will despise. It's quite a stretch to jump into his sexual orientation and then resume enumerating what he will despise. Whatever desire for/women is, it must be some divinity as the gods of his fathers before it,and 'any other god' after it.

A third and simple explanation of the term could be the guy is a eunuch, celibate. Lacking desire for women does not automatically make one gay. Homosexuality is sexual attraction to members of the same sex and not merely lack of attraction to those of the opposite.

PS:
This is not to mean that he won't be gay, just that there is no such evidence from this verse. Let's rightly divide the Word of God regardless of how we feel or believe about homosexuality

The verse has been given several interpretation by scholars . The thread is open to all opinions

back2sender:

Must u always sell your market- I have helped many out of it
its I and not GOD any longer

Ok let's rephrase it " God has helped many out of it"

We can as well rephrase this scripture below

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

To read
"God heal the sick , god cast out Devils ". . .

lucilicious:
I pray for his mercy n forgiveness upon ur soul

Since u started praying nothing and I mean nothing has changed in your life.

listica:
you said u not a gay or you just want to show that u know how to speak English. Mr man before u say some think twice ok,I repeat my sef if u don't understand me before,God never said to Adam I give u Adam to be ur helper but he gave Eve to him.get that in ur brain.peace in

I probably speak better than u do, but that is not the point here. and yes I am not gay, but I have conscience. People like u will met out jungle justice to a persons that is different and unique and turn around and call them witches. Since u guys started using bible and Quran as your modus operandi, things turn from right to wrong. This is the last time I am going to talk to you about inconsequential stuff, go ahead and repeat yourself all u want. look in the very near future you are going to have a daughter or a son that is gay, I have seen it happen watch out.

listica:
you said u not a gay or you just want to show that u know how to speak English. Mr man before u say some think twice ok,I repeat my sef if u don't understand me before,God never said to Adam I give u Adam to be ur helper but he gave Eve to him.get that in ur brain.peace in

One of the things I have noticed about u is that u don't take corrections. There is nothing like a gay. Stop and learn fool.

nwaezeubom:


One of the things I have noticed about u is that u don't take corrections. There is nothing like a gay. Stop and learn fool.

please teacher don't teach me nonsense.peace in

nwaezeubom:


I probably speak better than u do, but that is not the point here. and yes I am not gay, but I have conscience. People like u will met out jungle justice to a persons that is different and unique and turn around and call them witches. Since u guys started using bible and Quran as your modus operandi, things turn from right to wrong. This is the last time I am going to talk to you about inconsequential stuff, go ahead and repeat yourself all u want. look in the very near future you are going to have a daughter or a son that is gay, I have seen it happen watch out.

brother,what are you saying about?have feeling to fellow man....God forbid, have u ever seen he goat having sex with a he goat or having u ever seen a male dog having sex with same .so why human? Bin a gay is satanic

xtervaganza:
what if I tell you your bible is made up of contradictory lies?




Did you know your christian god is responsible for slavery? Did you know God endorsed slavery?



Any African worshiping the Christian god is a foolish fool

hey Mr man,dont challenge God. Man to man is satanic

Bruno3000:
well said... The God dat destroyed soddom n gommorha because of homosexuality is still d same. Homosexuals themselves will not feel comfy residing in heaven, they will be claimed by satan.

First, no god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. it is all lies and bed time scary stories that made it into the fake book you call the Bible or Koran.

basic human character to explain away things they can't understand when science has been shoved out of the door. Not a single site has yet been found that meets half of the bible or koran description of those locations. None!

Besides, contrary to popular believes by Christians and Muslims, Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed because of homosexuality. It was destroyed for lack of hospitality towards others, unfriendliness to those who are different from you or not your clan and cruelty to others just because they are different. Does that sound similar to what you guys are doing to the gays?

well, hellfire awaits you then according to your book.

hm, lord have mercy @ topic.

Joagbaje:


The verse has been given several interpretation by scholars . The thread is open to all opinions

The orientation is the most harebrained one ever and am not surprised thousands of years of commentary on that verse skipped it until recently

listica:
brother,what are you saying about?have feeling to fellow man....God forbid, have u ever seen he goat having sex with a he goat or having u ever seen a male dog having sex with same .so why human? Bin a gay is satanic

there are quite a few animals that that display homosexuality as a trait. Some birds who "marry" for life have been observed in the wild to form female-female and male-male union.

Please pick a book and read up on why some people are homosexual and others are not ...clue -it is like being left handed which we now know is a result of excess testosterone during development in the womb(thanks to science). Same thing with homosexuality - fetuses who receive too little testosterone tend to prefer same se x as adult. there are researches that show that the more male child a woman has, the higher the chances of one of them being gay.

so, think of it this way - the average Nigerian woman has 6 children with each birth having a 50/50 chance of being male. you can do the maths
bottom line, go find a better crusade. Poverty eradication and anti-corruption would be a good place to start.

beryl04:


weeeak!i expected more from u, wimp!

k

Joagbaje:


. . . Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of [b]women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.-Daniel 11:37
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Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

No doubt, homosexuality is wrong and a sin, but the passage does not talk about the antichrist being homosexual or promoting such.
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,
Neither shall he regard the desire of women,
Neither shall he regard any god

These are the 3 phrases the verse passes across. Whatever the desire of women may be or mean, he will not regard it. This is different from saying that he will not have desire for women, or not desire women). Even not desiring women does not mean that he must be/desire men. He may desire nothing sexually or even worse. The Bible does not say, at least not in that verse. Let's not just assume things and tie scriptures to them, or force scriptures to say our opinions.

MeandSum:


First, no god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. it is all lies and bed time scary stories that made it into the fake book you call the Bible or Koran.

basic human character to explain away things they can't understand when science has been shoved out of the door. Not a single site has yet been found that meets half of the bible or koran description of those locations. None!

Besides, contrary to popular believes by Christians and Muslims, Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed because of homosexuality. It was destroyed for lack of hospitality towards others, unfriendliness to those who are different from you or not your clan and cruelty to others just because they are different. Does that sound similar to what you guys are doing to the gays?

well, hellfire awaits you then according to your book.

so wats ur point? I should love n embrace homosexuals? Me no think so dude...
And point of correction, 'sodomy' is anoder word used to describe homosexuality. Why sodomy? If d destruction of those cities was not based on homosexualilty? Do ur research well.

#saynotohomo

Cassied:
... God condemned a lot of things... He condemned those who judge other... U guys forget that there is no two hell fire and all sin is sin... U r Judging Yooguyz nd saying he will go to hell .. When he reaches there he will see u are his next door neighbor.. Itz beta to wait for d end to see it all nd who know, u jxt might b wrong

moshould:
God go punish all the homosexuals and the wanna be, in the name of the Father,the Son, and the Holy Spirit...Amen!!!

@ moshould I think cassied's reply will suffice

Jidefido:


It annoys me wen people say dey were born that way. It mins God made a mistake in creating them. The Bible has been in existence before everyone of us born. I mean all of us right now. God didn't create Adam and Steve. The sad thing is dat most powerful people in the world are supporters. The first devil is really gaining momentum

this issue of homosexualilty is more than meet the eye. Its a bold act of rebellion against the creator. Those engaged in homosexuality are simply rejecting d sovereignty and divine rulership of God, they would Satan to be god. In general, the spirit of the last days is at work, so this happenings shouldn't be a surprise. The end of days is really near bro.

#GodHelpus

Abba999:

Mr Righteous and Sinless Shutup your filthy mouth! I hadly abuse people, but your comment deserve one. You are not God and can never speak for God! God knows our hearts and that's it!

its your life...

MeandSum:


there are quite a few animals that that display homosexuality as a trait. Some birds who "marry" for life have been observed in the wild to form female-female and male-male union.

Please pick a book and read up on why some people are homosexual and others are not ...clue -it is like being left handed which we now know is a result of excess testosterone during development in the womb(thanks to science). Same thing with homosexuality - fetuses who receive too little testosterone tend to prefer same se x as adult. there are researches that show that the more male child a woman has, the higher the chances of one of them being gay.

so, think of it this way - the average Nigerian woman has 6 children with each birth having a 50/50 chance of being male. you can do the maths
bottom line, go find a better crusade. Poverty eradication and anti-corruption would be a good place to start.

satan blind many pep.u said bird to bird,please what's the title of the book so I can learn as u directed.many cult just doing same sex to make God to be angry so pulse ur scientic quotations and say no to evil.

Bruno3000:
its your life...

Before was my life yours? Or do I live in your community? My dear I live in a country where people have respect for each other, live and let live, not nigeria where u people witch hunt each other and claim to be holier than thou.

Mr "Holy man of God with sin" nonsense

Abba999:


Before was my life yours? Or do I live in your community? My dear I live in a country where people have respect for each other, live and let live, not nigeria where u people witch hunt each other and claim to be holier than thou.

Mr "Holy man of God with sin" nonsense

cool down... U might develop high BP. Such anger!

#saynotohomo

Bruno3000:
so wats ur point? I should love n embrace homosexuals? Me no think so dude...
And point of correction, 'sodomy' is anoder word used to describe homosexuality. Why sodomy? If d destruction of those cities was not based on homosexualilty? Do ur research well.

#saynotohomo

My point is that you are a repressed homosexual trying to dust our eyes. You concern yourself too much about homos. I shouldn't be the one teaching you to love and embrace them. Your bible does. Wasn't Jesus friends with sinners? How many friends do you have that are gays? Maybe you'll show them the right way by living by example.

Regarding the word sodomy, it came directly from the bible and proves nothing!