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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by T8ksy(m): 6:41pm On Jul 14, 2015

logica:
Akintola once referred to the University of Ibadan in which the Igbo VC elected to employ 109 Igbos and just 3 Yorubas right there in the Yoruba heartland. He mentioned this in a video aptly titled "Idi wahala laarin Yoruba ati Igbo". Now you think of it; what manner of a person can be so brazenly nepotistic? You bring a stranger into your house in the name of "Pan Africanism", then rather than feed your children, he starts taking your food to the land he came from. That person takes you for a great f0ol and has no iota of regard for you; neither does he know what decorum is.

That summarizes the problem. It goes beyond the civil war. It was there before the civil war, and it remained after.

Thank you, my brother!!! Agba oni ton ni 'le yin.

In addition to the bolded above, out of 21 ministerial post, the northerners (NPC) took 10 juicy posts leaving 11 for the south.

The ibos (NCNC) been the greedy souls they are, took 10 leaving 1- minister of Labour for the yorubas. This was all alluded to by Akintola in his

1965 campaign speech. The video too is on Youtube.Yorubas now could clearly discern why the ibos were all for One Nigeria where they hope to

dominate their so-called fellow countrymen. This was why Akintola too had to die at the hands of the jan 15th coupists just as the sardunna was

earmarked to die for protecting the interest of his people in this unholy union.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 14, 2015

lastpage:
I read a thread by one of our Igbo brothers, linked here
Let us settle our differences, Igbo group tells Lagosians: https://www.nairaland.com/2450640/lets-settle-differences-igbo-group.
I think this is a very heart-warming and credible effort on the part of the group.

I have decided to create this response, as a way forward on the issue.
The idea is to "TRY" to explain things from the point of view of a Yoruba person so that once we know what the issues are, we can begin to iron them out.

u don't have any idea about most things in ur article.

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by logica(m): 7:04pm On Jul 14, 2015

T8ksy:

Yorubas now could clearly discern why the ibos were all for One Nigeria where they hope to

dominate their so-called fellow countrymen.

There has been a wrong use of terms which I believe started with the Sardauna (Ahmadu Bello).

When you speak of "dominate", what comes to mind is like the Barcelona FC team of present. They dominate. And why do they dominate? Because they are head and shoulders above all other teams.

On the other hand, what the Igbo as a group tended to do is called amassing. Like a crowd of piranha on a hapless goat.

Everyone knew they (the Igbos) had most to gain from the Nigerian contraption. For instance, Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani had been interacting way back since the 15th Century. The Igbos had been isolated for so long till the Oyinbos came along to build bridges connecting them to the South West and North. So they suddenly developed a wanderlust and wanted to spread across the country. Meanwhile Yorubas and Hausas who had wanderlust were already old, tired or dead so not many were engaging in such travel. But it was the behavior of the surjourners in their various host lands that was ultimately their undoing.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by LoveMachine(m): 7:11pm On Jul 14, 2015

My best friend is Yoruba. His family and my fam are family. Hate and tribalism is bred through miscommunication, poverty, and shady political leaders. We're all too black, too blessed, and too strong. Let's grow.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by omowolewa: 7:12pm On Jul 14, 2015

There is a urgent need to settle the differences. They exist right there on our minds even if we chose not to let them out.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by successmatters(m): 7:58pm On Jul 14, 2015

barcanista:
I am happy that Igbos and Yorubas are seeing so much reasons why there should be peace. We need Igbo/Yoruba unity to achieve growth in this country. I think we all should allow the events of 1967-70 behind us and forge a new phase of our relationship.

God Bless the BIG THREE (Igbo-Yoruba-Hausa)! God bless the other ethnic minorities(but equal in Nigeria). Most importantly, God Bless the Great Ijaw Nation.

Each time the igbo try to forget, it will take a stupid action like a first class oba threatening publicly to drown a tribe in the lagoon to make us remember that 1967-70 is still here with us.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Optionalx: 8:11pm On Jul 14, 2015

Never knew there was differences to settle. Knew about stereotyping sha, which inconsequential to serious minded person.

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by betty202020(m): 8:21pm On Jul 14, 2015

Stolen:

Na lie Oh, we cannot live together. period!

OK like u said we can not leave together, I am igboman , if u say we can not live together, let the two tribes maintain peace. our people said for one to wash his two hands clean, left hand must wash right hand and vise vasa. let peace reign. nature has placed us in southern region of the country, we should bury our differences and forge ahead. the war was between east and north though the roles west played cannot be forgotten easily but we will not be like this forever. now even if we go our separate ways, won't we have ambassadors to odua republic or what ever name our Western brothers choose to bear. won't we have bilateral agreements? let peace reign . Okey now we have interethnic marriages going on between us on daily basis is it not enough reason for us to leave in peace? let us maintain peace .

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by HopeAtHand: 9:09pm On Jul 14, 2015

Pazienza show oh..O set.

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by bodeloja: 9:18pm On Jul 14, 2015

barcanista:
Let me however add that there is need for SNC to discuss some of these issues and forge a progressive front for a better country. This present system breeds hate

U are a natural assasin. See the way u give everybody wat they want to hear and sneak this one in. Barca, Barca, u go kill person. grin

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jul 14, 2015

bodeloja:

U are a natural assasin. See the way u give everybody wat they want to hear and sneak this one in. Barca, Barca, u go kill person.

My brother, that SNC is very important o.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by nwadiuko1(m): 10:26pm On Jul 14, 2015

Me I don't even have any problem with anybody in real life no matter where you come from
The problem is when I come online to unwind and begin to see silly threads and comments .......I get pissed off

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Horllamideh(m): 10:33pm On Jul 14, 2015

Classicool:

Lol Bro I no fit lie I be complete omo Ile karo-ojiree so.. Egbon if you think I'm not a Yoruba check my signature and also... If you still dont believe Irep Ogbomoso Ajilete Ibi ti won ti jeka tiwon to mu ko yegan.. I be Omo Afogbo ja.. And I'm an O'dua guy with my body and soul..

another ajilete son reporting.....How u dy bros

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Mckennedy: 10:43pm On Jul 14, 2015

lastpage:

But why is it that after almost fifty years, we cant put it behind us, especially the New Age, technology generation?

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until yorubas apologise for all igbo treasury they looted after the civil war,, don't forget igbos were giving £20 only no matter how many millions an igbo may have banked in Nigerian bank provided it bears an igbo name.Secondly the idea of food blockade and indiginization policy instigated by Awolowo is another food for thought,, yorubas should put pride aside and apologise to igbos on all these issues. last I checked Fashola deported igbos from lagos,Oba Akiolu treating to dump them in the lagoon,so where are your love??.until the sovereignty of the disposes people are addressed there will never be peace.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:03pm On Jul 14, 2015

unstableaswater:
Any Yoruba man can wake up one morning and post any nonsense that they like and say igbo group.

Let me tell you one thing about posting a topic and replying yourself, it is the first sign of madness.

If the group is not Ohanaeze then it is not an igbo group with recognition.

OP son go and read your book and leave igbos, they are far too great for a riffraff like you.

Am l @NgeneUkwenu or is that a Yoruba person?

Your "user-handle" says it all: UNSTABLE grin

Now, Sod-off and let mature people talk joor.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by DonXavi(m): 11:09pm On Jul 14, 2015

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:11pm On Jul 14, 2015

EggovinMma:
I think nobody should forget history, else it may repeat itself again.
What happened during the civil war was really something that will continue to live in the minds of every igbo, it was a genocide in all its entirety. Igbos were killed even in the army by their fellow hausa soldiers.All they wanted was self determination. So many countries have done it and still doing it.

Looking at Nigeria today, I honestly pray we survive yet another 4 years.Our leaders are greedy and selfish. If the marriage isn't working, there should be a divorce.

Looking back at the horror of those civil war years, it's effect et al, and the igbos still insist on biafra, why not give it to them?

Is that the genesis of the PROBLEM..... or just the AFTER-EFFECTS?
How come none of the Igbos want to talk about what the Aguiyi Ironsi and his Igbo Soldiers, did to the Northern Political and MIlitary Elite, FIRST?
If you can address issues honestly, how will you be able to "solve and reconcile" them?

This topic is not about re-instating Biafra! There are too many topics on that already.
We are trying to "HONESTLY" look at working at what went wrong and "solutions"

..And no one gives anyone secession, it is TAKEN!.
You can take it (if that is what you really want) but you have to be up to it!

Lastpage!

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:12pm On Jul 14, 2015

EggovinMma:
I think nobody should forget history, else it may repeat itself again.
What happened during the civil war was really something that will continue to live in the minds of every igbo, it was a genocide in all its entirety. Igbos were killed even in the army by their fellow hausa soldiers.All they wanted was self determination. So many countries have done it and still doing it.

Looking at Nigeria today, I honestly pray we survive yet another 4 years.Our leaders are greedy and selfish. If the marriage isn't working, there should be a divorce.

Looking back at the horror of those civil war years, it's effect et al, and the igbos still insist on biafra, why not give it to them?

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Duru1(m): 11:13pm On Jul 14, 2015

The only thing Igbo and Yoruba had for any form of settlement is a distinct homeland for each group. Yoruba should occupy a different country as Igbo.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 11:14pm On Jul 14, 2015

You opening article is full of conjectures, lies and half truths, that had all been exposed and thoroughly trashed out here on NL time and time again.

It is safe to say that Yorubas have reached a point of no return in the lies and false propaganda against Ndiigbo, if after thorough debunking, you still stick to your half baked lies and half truths.

I mean, what's the point of this thread? To start going back and front on issues already discussed in the past? That will be a waste of time.

In summary, your thread belongs to nowhere but trash bin. Such a waste of internet space.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:18pm On Jul 14, 2015

logica:
Akintola once referred to the University of Ibadan in which the Igbo VC elected to employ 109 Igbos and just 3 Yorubas right there in the Yoruba heartland. He mentioned this in a video aptly titled "Idi wahala laarin Yoruba ati Igbo". Now you think of it; what manner of a person can be so brazenly nepotistic? You bring a stranger into your house in the name of "Pan Africanism", then rather than feed your children, he starts taking your food to the land he came from. That person takes you for a great f0ol and has no iota of regard for you; neither does he know what decorum is.

That summarizes the problem. It goes beyond the civil war. It was there before the civil war, and it remained after.

Hmmm.... reality can be very daunting at times!

Can any Igbo comment on this fact of history?
Is this right? Should it be so? Is it a "one-off" thingy or a general trait?
Was this kind of behaviour, which l referred to in my original post as "Aggressiveness", what the hausas also detest back then, before Auiyi Ironsi took on himself to purge them of their political and military elites, by killing all of them?
Has that attitude changed, as of today in 2015

These are just questions l want us to address, as part of the "honest truth and reconciliation" we seek.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jul 14, 2015

lastpage:

Is that the genesis of the PROBLEM..... or just the AFTER-EFFECTS?
How come none of the Igbos want to talk about what the Aguiyi Ironsi and his Igbo Soldiers, did to the Northern Political and MIlitary Elite, FIRST?
If you can address issues honestly, how will you be able to "solve and reconcile" them?

This topic is not about re-instating Biafra! There are too many topics on that already.
We are trying to "HONESTLY" look at working at what went wrong and "solutions"

..And no one gives anyone secession, it is TAKEN!.
You can take it (if that is what you really want) but you have to be up to it!

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After the retaliation, why can't the igbos be allowed to rule themselves as they so wished? The igbo man started the coup but it never ended with the igbo man you know.

I am up for peace and reconciliation. But if the people wants peaceful secession as a country , it should be given to them.If after all said and don in the 1960's and the igbos want to leave peacefully as non nigerians, with their neighbours, a referendum should be called.

Reconciliation is beautiful as it removes the bad blood between igbos and yorubas, as truth is, we are so immersed than other tribes.But this reconciliation should also give the igbos the opportunity to have a referendum for self determination.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:26pm On Jul 14, 2015

babyfaceafrica:
it will never graze the front page..cos of a lot of tibal bigots will derail the thread....the mods are not stupid

How come the Original thread, by an Igbo person (Ngenekwenu) graced the Frontpage, immediately it was created?
Did that stop the tribal bigots from posting on that thread? And you use of the phrase "NEVER" seems strange. lipsrsealed

I think there is this particular Igbo Mod in this Politics section that is responsible for stoking most of the Bigotry.
As a Mod, when you see it coming, you stamp it out and immediately issue a warning, whether it is by a Yoruba or Igbo but she will let it fly if it is started by an Igbo but once a Yoruba responds, she will ban that Yoruba poster and erase their post! grin

That is very childish and silly IMO, but the blame lies with Seun who cannot properly vet and at times double-check his Mods!

Anyway, that is just by the way.

Back to the topic and thanks for your response.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:32pm On Jul 14, 2015

Classicool:

Lol Bro I no fit lie I be complete omo Ile karo-ojiree so.. Egbon if you think I'm not a Yoruba check my signature and also... If you still dont believe Irep Ogbomoso Ajilete Ibi ti won ti jeka tiwon to mu ko yegan.. I be Omo Afogbo ja.. And I'm an O'dua guy with my body and soul..

Dont kill me with laughter! grin

I have lived long enough to know when someone is faking it.
Granted, you are ALMOST one of us probably by the fact that you have lived with us long enough or you might even be born in the South West!
I have a few Igbo friends like that who, apart from there Igbo-name, the way they destroy Amala or speak Yoruba will make you argue, if l tell you they are of Igbo stock!
But nothing wrong in that,, what is wrong is to hide behind it and misrepresent a Yoruba ideology!
Thats not cool Bro! We are trying to resolve issues here, not adversaries, so we need to be honest about it

Thanks all the same for your own opinion on the matter.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:36pm On Jul 14, 2015

Nnaabros:
i am igbo and i like and admire the yoruabas expecially for their thirst for knowledge. i hv many yoruba frnds. d civil war generation is almost completely gone. let us d post-war generation not carry on a war that never involved us. my submition

We also admire your zest for trading and commerce.
The challenge is how we can all maximize our good potentials while recognizing our weaknesses so that we can synergize and complement each other, without any form of unhealthy competition.

It will be a repetition and of no value, if we are all alike....
.....yet it will be an "economic waste", if we cant maximize the potentials inherent in our differences.

Cheers Bro.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 11:38pm On Jul 14, 2015

pazienza:
You opening article is full of conjectures, lies and half truths, that had all been exposed and thoroughly trashed out here on NL time and time again.

It is safe to say that Yorubas have reached a point of no return in the lies and false propaganda against Ndiigbo, if after thorough debunking, you still stick to your half baked lies and half truths.

I mean, what's the point of this thread? To start going back and front on issues already discussed in the past? That will be a waste of time.

In summary, your thread belongs to nowhere but trash bin. Such a waste of internet space.

I was just laughing at their brazzen display of lies in an uncouth way.

These are people that

Celebrated Oba Akiolu as a hero.

Celebrated Abraham Ariyo as a hero.

Some of the people running their mouths here could be spotted in the picture below.

I know a Yoruba for two things first as a liar and second as a coward, their ways are no longer strange to me.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by babyfaceafrica: 11:39pm On Jul 14, 2015

lastpage:

How come the Original thread, by an Igbo person (Ngenekwenu) graced the Frontpage, immediately it was created?
Did that stop the tribal bigots from posting on that thread? And you use of the phrase "NEVER" seems strange.

I think there is this particular Igbo Mod in this Politics section that is responsible for stoking most of the Bigotry.
As a Mod, when you see it coming, you stamp it out and immediately issue a warning, whether it is by a Yoruba or Igbo but she will let it fly if it is started by an Igbo but once a Yoruba responds, she will ban that Yoruba poster and erase their post!

That is very childish and silly IMO, but the blame lies with Seun who cannot properly vet and at times double-check his Mods!

Anyway, that is just by the way.

Back to the topic and thanks for your response.

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its well my broda!!

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:40pm On Jul 14, 2015

Stolen:

Yorubas care about tribe, they are the most tribalistic group in Nigeria. Have u seen any King in Nigeria before threaten to murder and dump an entire tribe in Lagos Lagoon? Yoruba Lagos Oba did right in the presence of igbo dignitary and his guest.

After threatening us, they create a thread to settle difference with our corpse or ghost. Yorubas should go and die.

When you see a poorly bred Goat, you can easily discern it! undecided

Please stay-off this thread, it is meant for mature minds, to discuss matters of mutual concern.

That Mod will not see this kind of "tribal insult" o,.... she is 3D (deaf, dumb and dazed) at this moment. B
But wait till a Yoruba replies in kind, then she would spring to action.

But l implore any Yoruba reading this, to just ignore that "stolen Imp"!
"Levels" different naah

Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 11:43pm On Jul 14, 2015

BuddahMonk:

I was just laughing at their brazzen display of lies in an uncouth way.

These are people that

Celebrated Oba Akiolu as a hero.

Celebrated Abraham Ariyo as a hero.

Some of the people running their mouths here could be spotted in the picture below.

I know a Yoruba for two things first as a liar and second as a coward, their ways are no longer strange to me.

I owe it my unborn generation to make sure they don't get to share the same country with the Odua-Arewa, I would have failed them, if Biafra don't become a reality.

I don't hate the Odua-Arewa, but we have no business sharing same country with them, we have virtually nothing in common with them, other than our skin colour. We will make good neighbors with them as members of ECOWAS.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:44pm On Jul 14, 2015

barcanista:
I am happy that Igbos and Yorubas are seeing so much reasons why there should be peace. We need Igbo/Yoruba unity to achieve growth in this country. I think we all should allow the events of 1967-70 behind us and forge a new phase of our relationship.

God Bless the BIG THREE (Igbo-Yoruba-Hausa)! God bless the other ethnic minorities(but equal in Nigeria). Most importantly, God Bless the Great Ijaw Nation.

Aaah! Barcanista! E'tu Brutus! shocked

Issokay o! grin

But seriously, we need ot discuss the "underlying issues", vent if necessary and then let it go as you said.
I am even surprised that those who did not witness the war, seems to be more at loggerheads with themselves, for a generation with access to internet and technology, for that mater! shocked

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 11:46pm On Jul 14, 2015

These are the people that opened a thread mocking Igbos during the post election violence that they deserved the lynching.

The same people will be hailing Fashola for deporting the less privilege from Lagos.

They said Lagos is for Yorubas but oil in Niger Delta is for all Nigeria.

Whenever there is riot in North they open threads counting the number of Igbos that died.

Their US based doctor even called for genocide against Igbos and he was regarded as poster child of the new Yoruba ideology.

*spits on you lots

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:48pm On Jul 14, 2015

chuna1985:

u don't have any idea about most things in ur article.

Very true, that is why l threw it open, while requesting for MATURED PUBLIC OPINION! grin

Is that all you can contribute?

o'dikwa very big, resounding and informative! undecided

Thanks for such a huge contribution.

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