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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Karleb(m): 4:58pm On Jul 23, 2015
Made of course. Even if it's inside of you, you have to try and make it work before it can work.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 2sex(m): 6:39pm On Jul 23, 2015
Ahhh .. My God and this never made front page?

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ymodulus: 7:15pm On Jul 24, 2015
2sex:
Ahhh .. My God and this never made front page?
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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jul 24, 2015
eVERYTHING LIES IN DESTINY,THEY RE BORN AND THEY WORKED ON IT.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by bamac(m): 7:59pm On Jul 24, 2015
Some r born, made and lucky at the same time
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by ebamma(m): 8:03pm On Jul 24, 2015
2sex:
Ahhh .. My God and this never made front page?
that's what happens. When mods. Are always combing the celebrity section for news of Tonto Dike and Ini Edo,




Imagine someone spending his time and data and writing a story of atleast 10 pages and it will not even make frontpage,




There are some many good topics like this one rotting away in the back pages of different sections of this forum,

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by InvertedHammer: 8:04pm On Jul 24, 2015
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Everyone is born tabula rasa.

The way you are raised determines if you will be filled with substance or full of crap.

If you are full of crap, a mentor can fill your life with substance.
If you are filled with substance, a bad influence can fill your life with crap.

Ipso facto, entrepreneurs are made.

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by pointstores(m): 8:06pm On Jul 24, 2015
Confirm correct I feel u man
hahn:
No one is born to be anything. Your choices, experience, background and point of view(my personal favorite) aid in making you who you are supposed to be.

As regards successful entrepreneurs, you will have to agree that their stories aren't coherent. Take for instance, Mark Zuckerberg who has become a billionaire at such a young age as opposed to Ray Croc who became rich afer the age of 50. The only traits consistent with success are a never-say-die attitude, the willingness to try out new things, a clear set goal and most importantly, in my own opinion, the ability to focus entirely on finding a solution to a need amongst other things. Majority of the richest men, great inventors never worked towards becoming rich, even though they had a total disdain of poverty after experiencing it first hand, instead they were more concerned about solving problems.

Soichiro Honda made his break by inventing the motorcycle after the war in China(I don't know the particular war offhand) after observing that people needed a cheaper more efficient mode of transportation.

Even Mark Zuckerberg only wanted to create something his classmates could use to keep in touch and look at what that has turned into.

Key to becoming successful: Find a need and seek to solve it or find a niche and try to do things differently. Always learn and improve on yourself and always think outside of the box

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 8:07pm On Jul 24, 2015
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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by AAinEqGuinea: 8:08pm On Jul 24, 2015
hahn:
No one is born to be anything. Your choices, experience, background and point of view(my personal favorite) aid in making you who you are supposed to be.

As regards successful entrepreneurs, you will have to agree that their stories aren't coherent. Take for instance, Mark Zuckerberg who has become a billionaire at such a young age as opposed to Ray Croc who became rich afer the age of 50. The only traits consistent with success are a never-say-die attitude, the willingness to try out new things, a clear set goal and most importantly, in my own opinion, the ability to focus entirely on finding a solution to a need amongst other things. Majority of the richest men, great inventors never worked towards becoming rich, even though they had a total disdain of poverty after experiencing it first hand, instead they were more concerned about solving problems.

Soichiro Honda made his break by inventing the motorcycle after the war in China(I don't know the particular war offhand) after observing that people needed a cheaper more efficient mode of transportation.

Even Mark Zuckerberg only wanted to create something his classmates could use to keep in touch and look at what that has turned into.

Key to becoming successful: Find a need and seek to solve it or find a niche and try to do things differently. Always learn and improve on yourself and always think outside of the box

Zuckerburg was an intellectual thief, he stole (and became rich off) his mates' ideas
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by AdeniyiA(m): 8:11pm On Jul 24, 2015
They were neither born, made nor lucky, this is what happens...
Ecclesiastes 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the RACE is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but TIME and CHANCE happeneth to them all.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ifebazz(m): 8:21pm On Jul 24, 2015
hahn:
No one is born to be anything. Your choices, experience, background and point of view(my personal favorite) aid in making you who you are supposed to be.

As regards successful entrepreneurs, you will have to agree that their stories aren't coherent. Take for instance, Mark Zuckerberg who has become a billionaire at such a young age as opposed to Ray Croc who became rich afer the age of 50. The only traits consistent with success are a never-say-die attitude, the willingness to try out new things, a clear set goal and most importantly, in my own opinion, the ability to focus entirely on finding a solution to a need amongst other things. Majority of the richest men, great inventors never worked towards becoming rich, even though they had a total disdain of poverty after experiencing it first hand, instead they were more concerned about solving problems.

Soichiro Honda made his break by inventing the motorcycle after the war in China(I don't know the particular war offhand) after observing that people needed a cheaper more efficient mode of transportation.

Even Mark Zuckerberg only wanted to create something his classmates could use to keep in touch and look at what that has turned into.

Key to becoming successful: Find a need and seek to solve it or find a niche and try to do things differently. Always learn and improve on yourself and always think outside of the box
I guess Dangote's children were not born to be rich. Nor were Otedola et al. You can't use one yardstick to explain life as a whole.
Some born, others made, while yet others lucky.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jul 24, 2015
barry40:
Some people are naturally born an entrepreneur. That is, there is a gene of entrepreneurs flowing in them. They naturally possess the traits of entrepreneurship. Some of these people can either belong to a family where their fore fathers and immediate parents are entrepreneurs. So, they grow with entrepreneurship mind set. The success rates of this class of people is very high.
Entrepreneurs can also be made. The same way that no one is born a teacher, doctor or an accountant. People study to become who ever they like to become. Everybody is a product of what he/she takes in. So, in the same manner, people can learn entrepreneurship but unfortunately our school system has not allowed this to thrive.
Whether entrepreneurs are lucky, I will quote a saying from a man I respect so much. He said, "luck is when preparation meets an opportunity". Therefore, if anyone can prepare himself for an opportunity so that he can quickly make most of it when the opportunity comes, the person will be successful. But to an ordinary man, the person is just lucky. That is my contribution.
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Hello there, nice points you've made, but I really do disapprove of your claim that entrepreneurs are born. Nobody was born as anything. Such ideology, in my opinion, is an excuse for complacency, and in the long run, does more harm than good.

You cited an example of one who was born into a family of entrepreneurs, but you'll agree with me that being born into a family of entrepreneurs isn't conterminus to being born an entrepreneur. Whatever it is you are now are as a result of environmental influences, parental upbringing, and choices you've made in the yore during growth.

As a child, you're malleable & spend most of your time with your family ideally. Be it as it may, you pick up their traits, demeanor & even foul languages overtime. That's the way it works. Nobody was born rich or poor, smart or dull—we were all born equally. However, some were born into more favourable households & situations than others, hence the dichotomy.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by prinok7(m): 8:22pm On Jul 24, 2015
Nice topic.First, who is an entrepreneur?An entrepreneur is that individual who generates and creates value for others and is now rewarded for the value created in the form of money.What then is value?Value is that which meets someone's needs,satisfies someone's wants and solves someone's problems.Create enough value for enough number of people and you will definitely become rich.Value must sufficiently be of enough quantity and of high quality to make one rich.Value must be either of enough quantity or high quality to make the creator(s) rich.Quantity and quality are the underlying factors of Value that determines whether one will be rich or not.Check all known successful entrepreneurs and you will see one common pattern emerge- They create value of either sufficient quantity,of high quality or both.

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by freshdude99(m): 8:23pm On Jul 24, 2015
Entrepreneurship is said to be the pursuit of opportunity beyond controlled resources. The underlined word here is controlled resources

Fact is so long as we can't take away mentorship in entrepreneurship which could take various forms ranging from observation to actual training

Then, I strongly argue in favor of Entrepreneurs are Made

Myself and 25 others from Futminna are the first holders of B.Tech in Entrepreneurship Technology as far as Nigeria is concerned

Nice one Op for such an insightful topic kiss kiss kiss
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by freshdude99(m): 8:29pm On Jul 24, 2015
AAinEqGuinea:


Zuckerburg was an intellectual thief, he stole (and became rich off) his mates' ideas
Are you ok?
Stay there be deceiving urself
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Idrismusty97(m): 8:29pm On Jul 24, 2015
They are made or just simply lucky but never born! And you should start believing in luck, or how best do you explain a scenario where your father is Dagote?
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by hahn(m): 8:30pm On Jul 24, 2015
AAinEqGuinea:


Zuckerburg was an intellectual thief, he stole (and became rich off) his mates' ideas

Okay. Does that make him born, made or lucky?
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by hahn(m): 8:34pm On Jul 24, 2015
Ifebazz:

I guess Dangote's children were not born to be rich. Nor were Otedola et al. You can't use one yardstick to explain life as a whole.
Some born, others made, while yet others lucky.

The fact that they were born into rich families doesn't guarantee them success in the future. Wealth can be lost and mishandled
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Legit: 8:37pm On Jul 24, 2015
Ymodulus:
Introduction
There is always a divide as to the question _ Are entrepreneurs Born or Made. However many response ae in support of the divide that Entrepreneurs are born, not made – that what leads someone to become a successful entrepreneur has more to do with their personality and innate qualities than anything learned through formal education.

Entrepreneurs Born
The biographies of several successful entrepreneurs _ as Richard Branson, Alan Sugar and Theo Paphitis, all of whom left school at 16 to make their own way in the world of business, add to the impression that entrepreneurs are born not made. The idea that certain entrepreneurial traits – such as being able to spot opportunities, think differently and take risks – may be inherent has even led to a whole new area of genetic research. Other stories to support the notion of entrepreneurs been born includes - Story of the Walmart, Jae Yong etc.


My View:
My view on this has largely been affected due to my Atheistic Believe that nothing is inherent/genetic; That we are products of who we work to be _ Everything we are, We struggle and Work for. However, recently i am beginning to drop this ideology, to the other side of the divide that entrepreneurs are born and not made.

Reason For Question:
In time past, i have always argued that if i am handed just N1 Million, i will invest and become rich to the likes of Dangote, Otedola, A. A Rano, Wale Tinubu, Bello Osaghie, Pascal Dozie, Mike Adenuga but to mention a few. Today, am in that spot (have the necessary resources) which i have always dreamt to be in other to rise to the height of Dangote etc. and have found out its not easy brainstorming or finding that right idea or been a successful entrepreneur.


All these got me thinking, are successful entrepreneurs born or made or lucky?

Note: i don't believe in luck. But couldn't help chipping this in

Cc:
My questions are:Why some babies are born destiny to misery and pooverty from the moment they are born, and others are born into lap of luxury er and success in life. Why some ppl will see opportunity, while cannot see same, why some ppl win lottery why others dont. If God discriminate among his children. Why some ppl are very smart and some ppl are not. If God create brain, why put a better brain in some ppl and less quality in others. Why some ppl are created with beatiful features while others are wowo, Why purnish a brand new baby that was born into poverty, hence less chance of success, not that they cant, the proberbility is less vs one born into riches. If African are the first ppl, why african suffer more in the world than others,

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jul 24, 2015
I'll say it's a combination of the three , being born with the knack to be an entrepreneur isn't the only key to success as experience and a fair amount of luck is needed to be truly successful.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by ennon92(m): 8:39pm On Jul 24, 2015
[quote author=Ymodulus post=34456025]I see most people are in favour of entrepreneurs been made than be born, some say they are the two while others are opposing.

Does this goes to say that, entrepreneurs been born or made or lucky, is a statement which answer cant be ascertained?[/quot]

It's subjective, there's no universal assertion as far as the topic is concerned.
Let me manoeuvre a bit,there re some students that are brilliant (as a result of studying hard/made) while some have natural brilliance in them (born/gifted). In an examination circumstance, the former will need to study hard to score an 'A' in an exam while the latter need not to study hard b4 having an 'A'.. So are entrepreneurs born or made ish..
By n large, The issue of entrepreneurs being made or born cannot be over-emphasised.

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 2sex(m): 8:48pm On Jul 24, 2015
ebamma:
that's what happens. When mods. Are always combing the celebrity section for news of Tonto Dike and Ini Edo,




Imagine someone spending his time and data and writing a story of atleast 10 pages and it will not even make frontpage,




There are some many good topics like this one rotting away in the back pages of different sections of this forum,









as far as Nairaland is concerned, I have learned to mind my business lol. Anyhow Dem like make Dem do.
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by AAinEqGuinea: 8:49pm On Jul 24, 2015
hahn:


Okay. Does that make him born, made or lucky?

Lucky.. and made

Zuckerburg later settled out of court when he was sued for his IP theft, but luckily his loses are dismal compared to how much he continues to make of this stolen work.. His mates trusted him so you can make the case Zuckerburg was enabled, thus you can say he was 'made'
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Laredojohn(m): 8:49pm On Jul 24, 2015
Though being an entrepreneur can be obtained through family history or background...mostly it's just interest abd determination or mentorship or influence of a mentor make one an entrepreneur, for mine...family background, but most importantly determination. Just my own view
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by hahn(m): 8:51pm On Jul 24, 2015
AAinEqGuinea:


Lucky.. and made

Zuckerburg later settled out of court when he was sued for his IP theft, but luckily his loses are dismal compared to how much he continues to make of this stolen work.. His mates trusted him so you can make the case Zuckerburg was enabled, thus you can say he was 'made'



Exactly!

Still supports my POV
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by AAinEqGuinea: 9:08pm On Jul 24, 2015
hahn:


Exactly!

Still supports my POV

LOL... yes, a very twisted POV.. then again research has found that many CEOs and entrpenuars are psychopaths
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 9:44pm On Jul 24, 2015
To be born into a Family o' entrepreneurs Doesn't ensure one's future as an entrepreneur. Learnt a lot on this thread thanks op
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by bummyla(m): 9:58pm On Jul 24, 2015
They Are Both Born And Made! The Ability To Survive Is Stronger In Some People (Born) and even if one has a stronger portion of it, environmental factor, education and experiences distinguishes others.

http://www.bummyla.com
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jul 24, 2015
How sad such a great thread as this got to the FP more than A WHOLE MONTH after it was created! The world needs more enterprenuers. We need more enterprenuers to create jobs for our teeming youths and make life more meaningful for them.

Any thread that tilts towards that should be given the appropriate attention and catapulted to FP as quickly as possible. We can't spend all our time arguing what politicians do or don't do!

Thanks for all your great contributions. The topic of discuss has caught my attention many months before now.

Ymodulus, thanks for your efforts. I'll revise this thread tomorrow by His grace. Good night.

I believe they're both born and made.

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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jul 24, 2015
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