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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:06pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:


With this you just said, i should probably not be replying you. You could not even come up with one cogent reason why someone should not get a credit card when the hardworking and successful citizens all have one. Even businesses even have one as there are credit cards for businesses and credit history for businesses.
Thank you Francis, I got the link.

You have really lectured me in credit card. I have been a debit card person more than 1 year

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:09pm On Jul 28, 2015
@ Francis

you are basically running round the circle and over flogging the poor lil fly
No law in the USA permits an employer to deny u employment based on ur "credit history"

During the boom the credit scheme started out to majorly focus on ailing and healthy businesses with a view to making the economy stronger.

lol when you said landlords, mortgage and auto coys solely reach a negative decision based on credit history!!!!
There is always a first time for everyone but getting a credit card is not a PaNaCea for owning a home or car etc.

If you need a home to build from scratch or an already built one or a car questions asked are far from if you have a credit card or not.

my questio to you is why do you think an intl student need a credit card? a student is here to study even thouhh we know they all would wanna adjust status in furure, if they dont have the raw cash there is no needstaying in buying a house when they just coming in who go approve am or a car? there are millions of students jumping buses and living in apts. and still doing fine.
i amnt Obama and dont wanna be him just like dia are millions of americans on credit card i repeat credit card tgat is ur argument( stay in it) dia are also millions without it

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:10pm On Jul 28, 2015
BloodyMitch:
Hi everyone please thos in the states alrady my school gave me the option of getting my student health insurance which company do you think is the best to obtain that from and also do you think i should get from the school as theirs is 2250 dollars a year.

Please i await responses. Thanks everyone
go to insubuy.com or ISoa.org

You should get something for around $35-40 per month

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:10pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:
@ Francis

you are basically running round the circle and over flogging the poor lil fly
No law in the USA permits an employer to deny u employment based on ur "credit history"

During the boom the credit scheme started out to majorly focus on ailing and healthy businesses with a view to making the economy stronger.

lol when you said landlords, mortgage and auto coys solely reach a negative decision based on credit history!!!!
There is always a first time for everyone but getting a credit card is not a PaNaCea for owning a home or car etc.

If you need a home to build from scratch or an already built one or a car questions asked are far from if you have a credit card or not.

my questio to you is why do you think an intl student need a credit card? a student is here to study even thouhh we know they all would wanna adjust status in furure, if they dont have the raw cash there is no needstaying in buying a house when they just coming in who go approve am or a car? there are millions of students jumping buses and living in apts. and still doing fine.
i amnt Obama and dont wanna be him just like dia are millions of americans on credit card i repeat credit card tgat is ur argument( stay in it) dia are also millions without it
Thanks Kobe79. Wow this was a long lecture.

Wetin man go do now ?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:12pm On Jul 28, 2015
Kobe79 and bigfrancis21 are making super brains, in my sweet sister voice "if u like carry $50k come america this white people would make u do any how" translate to igbo to understand tongue tongue I think getting a SSN is the koko for we the freshers, grin please you both made lots of sense,

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:15pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:


With this you just said, i should probably not be replying you. You could not even come up with one cogent reason why someone should not get a credit card when the hardworking and successful citizens all have one. Even businesses even have one as there are credit cards for businesses and credit history for businesses.


Quick question

have you or anyone ever bin asked if you have a credit card when applying for housing loan auto, employment etc?

Does an Intl student ideally need one
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:15pm On Jul 28, 2015
zeezahbee:
go to insubuy.com or ISoa.org

You should get something for around $35-40 per month
if a school is forcing one company down ur neck nko cry undecided
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:15pm On Jul 28, 2015
zeezahbee:
go to insubuy.com or ISoa.org

You should get something for around $35-40 per month
if a school is forcing one company down ur neck nko cry undecided
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:17pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:
@ Francis

you are basically running round the circle and over flogging the poor lil fly
No law in the USA permits an employer to deny u employment based on ur "credit history"

During the boom the credit scheme started out to majorly focus on ailing and healthy businesses with a view to making the economy stronger.

lol when you said landlords, mortgage and auto coys solely reach a negative decision based on credit history!!!!
There is always a first time for everyone but getting a credit card is not a PaNaCea for owning a home or car etc.

If you need a home to build from scratch or an already built one or a car questions asked are far from if you have a credit card or not.

my questio to you is why do you think an intl student need a credit card? a student is here to study even thouhh we know they all would wanna adjust status in furure, if they dont have the raw cash there is no needstaying in buying a house when they just coming in who go approve am or a car? there are millions of students jumping buses and living in apts. and still doing fine.
i amnt Obama and dont wanna be him just like dia are millions of americans on credit card i repeat credit card tgat is ur argument( stay in it) dia are also millions without it

You are just propagating lies. I just wonder where you are getting all the falsity that you are recycling from.

@bold...please see a confirmation from CNN.


Why do employers care about your credit? -- CNN


When you're looking for a job, you're probably not thinking about your credit score. But you might want to start.
Though many people argue that credit scores have nothing to do with their capabilities on the job, some employers say differently. Sixty percent of employers recently surveyed by the Society of Human Resource Management said they run credit checks on all or some potential new hires. That's up from 43 percent in 2006 and 25 percent in 1998.
Opinions on whether or not this is fair vary. Supporters of credit checks don't think it's any different than checking a candidate's references. But opponents see it as unfair -- especially in this economy -- because medical problems, divorce or a job layoff and subsequent missed bills can wreck an otherwise perfect credit score in an instant.
"There are lots of good reasons not to hire someone. Usually, bad credit alone isn't one of them. And yet, it's become the reason du jour to disqualify an otherwise highly qualified person to do a job they're particularly well suited for," says Milan P. Yager, president and CEO of the National Association of Professional Employer Organizations. "As job fields become closed and increasingly competitive, you can bet that more employers are utilizing credit check options than ever before."
So why do employers look at your credit history?
The reasons vary. Sometimes it may be because of the nature of the position to which you're applying.
Video: Credit report errors, college savings
"Certain categories of employers regularly review credit histories [such as] banks, brokerage houses, government and other financial institutions. Evaluation of credit history is [also] frequently applied to accounting and money management positions where there is potential for fraud and embezzlement," says Wendy Powell, author of "Management Experience Acquired."
"Employers have a responsibility to assure that the proper due diligence is applied. Be prepared for the possibility of a credit review, not only in the application process, but also throughout the employment relationship," she says.
Other employers look at credit histories in order to separate one candidate from another.
"Credit report information is an excellent data point when comparing and contrasting two or more candidates for the same position," says Jay Meschke, president of EFL Associates, an executive search company. "If, for example, an applicant reports a significant level of personal debt obligations or credit delinquencies that might distract that person from his or her job responsibilities, then a hiring entity may take that information into consideration when comparing such an applicant to another comparative candidate without such distractions."
Or maybe a company just wants to get a better idea of the person it's considering hiring.

"Financial information may not be the employer's priority. Ensuring that your employees are responsible and ethical is a must," Yager says. "Relying on character references is becoming less reliable than verifying records and professionally screening workers beforehand. It's true that credit checks can verify demographic and location information. They will include identifiers such as name, spouse, Social Security number, alias, address, phone and previous employment."
Barry Maher, author of "Filling the Glass," adds that a credit report can provide a snapshot of a person's economic life that may confirm or contradict the résumé.
"Perhaps someone claims they made a good six-figure income for the last 10 years, yet they show repeated credit problems during that period. Are they lying about their income? Are they poor money managers? Do they have a major financial issue that's draining their resources? Any of these might (or might not) have a negative effect on their job."
The Fair Credit Reporting Act governs almost all issues related to the use of credit reports. Job applicants have the right to a copy of their credit report, and the law requires the hiring entity to provide a copy to the job applicant. In addition, if an employer decides not to hire a candidate based on the results of a credit report, the candidate must be told the reason why and be provided with the credit report information.
Job seekers must be prepared to deal with a potential employer looking at their credit report.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/07/12/cb.employers.your.credit/

Do I need to say more?

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:20pm On Jul 28, 2015
CNN is saying basically what I have been saying. All you needed to do was do a simple research for yourself to see.

A credit history simply shows that you are responsible person. People with bad financial habits DO NOT get credit cards or they have poor credit histories. One's true character will always tell even if you are wearing a suit.

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:22pm On Jul 28, 2015
zeezahbee:
Thanks Kobe79. Wow this was a long lecture.

Wetin man go do now ?

i know its difficult to secure a big job now cos of status blah blah blah the lil one u have and funds coming fromhome and side biznesses continue to save even if its a lil ur account statement inflow and outflow will help a lot, pending when ur status changes and u start living big.

what happens is that if ur status changes tomorrow( u secure a big permanent job) and u think you need a home.

goto a financial coy with good integrity they will ask ur statement from existing bank and ur pay stubb or extra income they will approve an amount for u nonewill asku if u have credit card none.

your interest rate maybe a lil,more but i bet u it wont be bad
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:23pm On Jul 28, 2015
amanze15:
if a school is forcing one company down ur neck nko cry undecided
Then you must stick to it.

I Have been using my school insurance because they will never allow us to get elsewhere. Alrhough a year is around $1200 which I think it's ok.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:24pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:
CNN is saying basically what I have been saying. All you needed to do was do a simple research for yourself to see.

A credit history simply shows that you are responsible person. People with bad financial habits DO NOT get credit cards not have poor credit histories. One's true character will always tell even if you are wearing a suit.
Can I also pass that link to some friends that are also interest or the link is just for one
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by mbeenox: 1:26pm On Jul 28, 2015
amanze15:
Gold card stretches ur withdrawal limit to 500k per day with fee of 209 per withdrawal tongue na 250 I dey sell o shocked grin
That will probably come with yearly charges.

Sell small for me at 210 nah, as my brother grin
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:26pm On Jul 28, 2015
Hmmm credit card scheme just started to flourish in nigeria, I have a civil servant friend who is using it well, its just simple get a good paying job and get a credit card to help u spend well....pls bigfrancis21 how to get SSN sharp sharp grin
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:26pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:


hey wtf are u talking bout?
what is personal in my comments compared to the below or u no sabi comprehend?


Background checks and security clearances for federal/government jobs

Everyone hired for a federal job undergoes a basic background check of his or her criminal and credit histories to ensure that all federal employees are “reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and loyal to the United States.” The U.S. Office of Personnel Management, a central agency that serves as the corporate human resources organization for the federal government, performs the majority of background checks. In addition, federal positions that include access to sensitive information generally require a security clearance. This clearance must be obtained to determine the applicant’s trustworthiness and reliability before granting him or her access to national security information.

TYPES OF SECURITY CLEARANCES

Positions in the federal government are classified in three ways: Non-Sensitive Positions, Public Trust Positions and National Security Positions. Each of these positions requires some level of background investigation. The elements that make up a background investigation vary depending on the level of clearance that is deemed necessary for a position. Background investigations for lower levels of security clearances generally rely on automated checks of an individual's history. For a secret clearance in a national security position, the investigation requires agents to interview people who have lived or worked with the candidate at some point in the last seven (or more) years.

There are four main types of security clearances for national security positions. These are confidential, secret, top secret (TS), and sensitive compartmented information (SCI).

Confidential

This type of security clearance provides access to information or material that may cause damage to national security if disclosed without authorization. It must be reinvestigated every 15 years.

Secret

This type of security clearance provides access to information or material that may cause serious damage to national security if disclosed without authorization. It must be reinvestigated every 10 years.

Top Secret

This type of security clearance provides access to information or material that may cause exceptionally grave damage to national security if disclosed without authorization. It must be reinvestigated every five years.

Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI)

This type of security clearance provides access to all intelligence information and material that require special controls for restricted handling within compartmented channels.

OBTAINING A SECURITY CLEARANCE

Only federal agencies can grant security clearances. Many federal agencies require security clearances depending on their mission and role in national security. Examples of agencies that may require higher levels of clearance include:

Intelligence community (e.g., CIA, NSA)
Federal law enforcement agencies (e.g., FBI, DEA, NCIS)
Diplomatic agencies (e.g., State Department, USAID)
Civilian military agencies (e.g., DIA, DSS)
There are also many companies that have contracts or grants with the federal government that require them to access sensitive information. These companies or organizations are required to have their employees cleared by the federal government. No company without a contract with the federal government can independently give or seek a security clearance, and no individual who is not hired by the federal government or a contract organization can get a security clearance.

Once the agency has selected a candidate to hire, the applicant will typically receive a job offer contingent upon successfully obtaining a security clearance. The extensive background investigation takes place after the initial offer has been accepted.

The length and depth of the background investigation will depend on the position’s requirements, as well as the type of security clearance needed for a particular job or internship. This process may take several months or up to a year depending on backlog, need for more information, depth of the investigation process and other factors.

In order to help speed the process along, begin to gather relevant information now. Once you are offered the position, you’ll be asked to submit a series of forms and information about yourself. Gather this information now so you can save time on your end. You can view the forms for background checks (SF-85: Questionnaire for Non-Sensitive Positions) and security clearances (SF-86: Questionnaire for Non-Sensitive Positions) on the Office of Personnel Management's website.

Once you have submitted the documentation, the designated agency will proceed with the investigation, depending on backlog and priority.

http://gogovernment.org/how_to_apply/next_steps/security_clearance.php
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:27pm On Jul 28, 2015
mbeenox:

That will probably come with yearly charges.

Sell small for me at 210 nah, as my brother grin
gerrarhere....u wan make I dey enter greyhound from st loius dey come texas abi where u dey go sef
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
amanze15:
Hmmm credit card scheme just started to flourish in nigeria, I have a civil servant friend who is using it well, its just simple get a good paying job and get a credit card to help u spend well....pls bigfrancis21 how to get SSN sharp sharp grin

The credit card system is now in use in Nigeria? Seriously?

Since when?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by HoneyBronzed: 1:28pm On Jul 28, 2015
gik56:
@Honey, so how long did ur passport stay at the embassy? I was approved on tuesday andi went to DHL yesterday but was told not
ready, tracked it, saying passport still at the US consulate.
I did mine on 15th of July. You should send a mail to support-nigeria @ ustraveldocs . com they will tell you exactly where your passport is. Mine stayed 4working days at the embassy before it was sent to DHL.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:29pm On Jul 28, 2015
zeezahbee:
Can I also pass that link to some friends that are also interest or the link is just for one

It is just for one applicant. If your friend(s) needs a link, just send me their email and I'll send them another link.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:29pm On Jul 28, 2015
amanze15:
Hmmm credit card scheme just started to flourish in nigeria, I have a civil servant friend who is using it well, its just simple get a good paying job and get a credit card to help u spend well....pls bigfrancis21 how to get SSN sharp sharp grin

As an international student, you first need to get a job on campus before you can obtain an SSN.

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:30pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:



Quick question

have you or anyone ever bin asked if you have a credit card when applying for housing loan auto, employment etc?

Does an Intl student ideally need one
kobe79, all he's trying to say is not all about international student, we all, know that most people will become PR on the long run.

From all the posts, I think if one is careful, you can successfully use a credit card

I was denied an apartment of my choice 2 days ago because I got no credit history.

No one cares about this I am an international student story. They need this credit history to show to show credibility
I can't count numerous places that ask for credit

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jul 28, 2015
@Bigfrancis, CNN is just a cable news network. Having no credit card history does not make someone irresponsible.

Don't rely so much on CNN.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:32pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:




http://gogovernment.org/how_to_apply/next_steps/security_clearance.php


o boy stop posting unnecessary links to make urself feel good
http://www.businessinsider.com/employers-cannot-check-your-credit-score-2014-5

u started off talking about Credit cards!!!!
why dont you stick to it and stop all this super man long post.

no employer in states applicable will deny you employment if u are zero or bad they however still need your damn consent and u not obligated.


stick to the argument

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:32pm On Jul 28, 2015
DeeTus:
@Bigfrancis, CNN is just a cable news network. Having no credit card history does not make someone irresponsible.

Don't rely so much on CNN.

It does not mean you are not responsible yet at the same time how do you show that you are financially responsible? It is just like someone saying I won't take JAMB admission but I am intelligent and I must get admission into UNILAG. How then do you prove to UNILAG that you are intelligent if you won't take JAMB?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by mbeenox: 1:32pm On Jul 28, 2015
amanze15:
gerrarhere....u wan make I dey enter greyhound from st loius dey come texas abi where u dey go sef

U don comot Naija already?
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by amanze15(m): 1:33pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:


As an international student, you first need to get a job on campus before you can obtain an SSN.
someone told me I shouldn't do "gra gra" to get job on campus, am going to a college town not a big city sha smiley,
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:33pm On Jul 28, 2015
DeeTus:
@Bigfrancis, CNN is just a cable news network. Having no credit card history does not make someone irresponsible.

Don't rely so much on CNN.

i was just about to even say i tot his epistles were real life experiences dint know he went googling.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:35pm On Jul 28, 2015
zeezahbee:
kobe79, all he's trying to say is not all about international student, we all, know that most people will become PR on the long run.

From all the posts, I think if one is careful, you can successfully use a credit card

I was denied an apartment of my choice 2 days ago because I got no credit history.

No one cares about this I am an international student story. They need this credit history to show to show credibility
I can't count numerous places that ask for credit


sweetie a credit card and credit history are not directly related.

background checks done wen u want an apt are not based on credit card.
i know people with zero credit, no credit card but good stubbs who are getting apts of their choice condos sef

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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by zeezahbee(f): 1:37pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:



sweetie a credit card and credit history are not directly related
So where could I have gotten a credit history ?

I show them my bank of America account and they saw the inflow of money which was actually good. I also have a seller account on eBay and amazon which I show them that I make good income every month but they need a credit history.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by bigfrancis21: 1:38pm On Jul 28, 2015
kobe79:



o boy stop posting unnecessary links to make urself feel good
http://www.businessinsider.com/employers-cannot-check-your-credit-score-2014-5

u started off talking about Credit cards!!!!
why dont you stick to it and stop all this super man long post.

no employer in states applicable will deny you employment if u are zero or bad they however still need your damn consent and u not obligated.


stick to the argument

Credit card/credit score/credit history are all interchangeable. A credit card gets you the credit score and history that you need.

Below is the article that you quoted:

Your three-digit credit score is a go-to indication of your trustworthiness that banks, credit card issuers, and car dealerships all use to help predict the likelihood of you repaying a loan. [Your article has confirmed what I said earlier about banks and car dealerships needing a credit history for loans.]

But it's of little use to the company that wants to give you a job.

"That a potential employer can check your credit score is probably the most common myth out there when it comes to credit, and unfortunately, it's one of the most problematic," says John Ulzheimer, credit expert at CreditSesame.com. "In my 23-plus years in the credit industry, there has never been a verified example of this happening." In fact, he says, the three credit agencies have all gone on record saying that they don't supply a credit score to employers.

Ulzheimer believes this myth is so pervasive for two reasons:

1. People are using "credit score" and "credit report" interchangeably. While your credit score is based on the contents of your credit report — which details your credit activity and history — they are not the same thing. As an illustration of their independence, consider the fact that while you can get your credit score for free at sites like Credit Sesame, you can't get your report. And while you can get your free report from each bureau once per year from annualcreditreport.com, you must pay for your score.

2. Employers can pull a credit report. But the credit report available to employers is not the same one that your lenders see. "When an employer checks your credit, it's called an 'employment screening,' and the credit bureaus have a separate product available for this purpose," explains Ulzheimer. "A lot of the data is the same, but not everything. For instance, your date of birth isn't on it. Plus, when an employer screens your report, not only does the inquiry have no effect at all on your credit score, but you, the consumer, are the only person able to see that it ever happened."

It's also worth noting, says Ulzheimer, that a potential employer isn't going to secretly check your credit behind your back. Unlike with the credit check that comes with applying for a mortgage or car loan, you must give explicit written permission for an employer to check your credit. And it's not as though it's your interviewer looking into your credit, he explains. "Normally the employer outsources the process to a third-party company, one that does things like verify your background and education."

The bottom line is that while employers can check your credit, they can't see your credit score, their inquiry doesn't affect it, and the credit report they can pull isn't the same one used to evaluate your trustworthiness as a borrower. While some states restrict the cases in which an employer can check your credit at all, "certain professions, like law enforcement or other government positions, should expect that credit checks are fair game," Ulzheimer says. "You should assume a report is going to be pulled."



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/employers-cannot-check-your-credit-score-2014-5#ixzz3hBm7xvrh

@bold...what point are you even trying to prove? The article you quoted still confirms what I said, that employers often check your credit history.
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 7 by kobe79: 1:41pm On Jul 28, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Credit card/credit score/credit history are all interchangeable. A credit card gets you the credit score and history that you need.

Below is the article that you quoted:



@bold...what point are you even trying to prove? The article you quoted still confirms what I said, that employers often check your credit history.

stop bin a politician in all the bolded where did u see u will be denied a job based on some pulled unconsented credit score

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