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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by benedictjohn(m): 12:09am On Jul 30, 2015
Now I see why we fail Exams! Always using calculators. The answer here is "5" and Not "7".



Cc. Oga seun.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by SadiqDO(m): 12:13am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:

Even the debate over the application of bodmas was never resolved among all the experts who ushered it into standard form....
That zero makes a confusing difference and can help people discover the arbitrary nature of mathe in its pure form.
You keep talking about "Mathe", pure maths, dialects and what not. If you could only bring some evidence for your claims. But please don't say that BODMAS is being used incorrectly. Here's what Wikipedia says about the order of operations:

The order of operations used throughout mathematics, science, technology and many computer programming languages is expressed here:[2]

- exponents and roots
- multiplication and division
- addition and subtraction

(Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations )

So it's Addition AND Subtraction. NOT addition then Subtraction. Both have Equal order of precedence. Neither precedes the other. Please.

Simply put: if I have 6 oranges in a bag, take away none (zero) and then add 1 orange, how many would there be in the bag eventually?! 5?! Or 7?

Like many have said, this is primary school maths and it's quite sad a simple question like this has become a debate. It's a challenge for us to step up our game and improve ourselves intellectually. There are many resources in the Web for learning - instead of wasting data money and time on gossip, movies and what not. And then we complain we can't get jobs!! We really are the bane of our own problems.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by stiko5(m): 12:17am On Jul 30, 2015
Even a primary 2 student should b abile 2 solve this...
BODMAS
bracket of Division Multiplication Addition then Subtraction
6-1*0+2/2 OK 6(-1*0)+(2/2) =6(0)+(2/2) =(6*0)+(2/2) =0+(2/2) =0+1 =1 Final Answer. fun though.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by stiko5(m): 12:19am On Jul 30, 2015
benedictjohn:
Now I see why we fail Exams! Always using calculators. The answer here is "5" and Not "7".



Cc. Oga seun.


Even a primary 2 student should b abile 2 solve
this...
BODMAS
bracket of Division Multiplication Addition then
Subtraction
6-1*0+2/2 OK 6(-1*0)+(2/2) =6(0)+(2/2) =
(6*0)+(2/2) =0+(2/2) =0+1 =1 Final Answer. fun
though.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by stiko5(m): 12:36am On Jul 30, 2015
HyDef:
Using BODMAS you'll get 7.

6 - 1 x 0 + 2 / 2

Division first.

2 / 2 = 1.

6 - 1 x 0 + 1

Multiplication next.

1 x 0 = 0.

6 - 0 + 1 = 7.

The answer, my friends, is 7. smiley

Modified: Please... I don't know how to some people, -0 + 1 = - 1? It doesn't.

Added a picture. Google added the rules of BODMAS before solving it... Some people are solving the equation in the order it was presented... Truly 99% get it wrong. :/

my brother that - sign is allocated to d one and not dh 6 so in essence it should b 6(-1*0)+(2/2)
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by stiko5(m): 12:43am On Jul 30, 2015
HyDef:
Using BODMAS you'll get 7.

6 - 1 x 0 + 2 / 2

Division first.

2 / 2 = 1.

6 - 1 x 0 + 1

Multiplication next.

1 x 0 = 0.

6 - 0 + 1 = 7.

The answer, my friends, is 7. smiley

Modified: Please... I don't know how to some people, -0 + 1 = - 1? It doesn't.

Added a picture. Google added the rules of BODMAS before solving it... Some people are solving the equation in the order it was presented... Truly 99% get it wrong. :/

Technology has cheated u...
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by stiko5(m): 12:46am On Jul 30, 2015
HyDef:


Umm... If division and multiplication have priority over addition and subtraction, why would you bracket the subtraction? It's meant to be:
6-(1x0)+(2/2).


brother I feel u ent ryt ....the negative sign shld b wft d one...I.e. 6(-1*0)+(2/2)
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Kelewele(m): 1:31am On Jul 30, 2015
To those who had 0 and 1,i'm sorry you are irredeemably dumb.

To those who had 5 atleast you've shown glimpses of hope,its just that your fees were shortchanged therefore the
need to go back to school to make-up for it.

My humble suggestion.

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Weah96: 2:17am On Jul 30, 2015
Kelewele:
To those who had 0 and 1,i'm sorry you are irredeemably dumb.

To those who had 5 atleast you've shown glimpses of hope,its just that your fees were shortchanged therefore the
need to go back to school to make-up for it.

My humble suggestion.

True shyt. However, I disagree about the irredeemably dumb people. Those are the ones who got it wrong, saw the correct answer and steps, and STILL came back here to insist that the answer is 1,5, or 0.

People who went to school only need to see the solution once before they slap themselves.

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Kelewele(m): 2:26am On Jul 30, 2015
Weah96:


True shyt. However, I disagree about the irredeemably dumb people. Those are the ones who got it wrong, saw the correct answer and steps, and STILL came back here to insist that the answer is 1,5, or 0.

People who went to school only need to see the solution once before they slap themselves.
Hahaha! you killed it man
Been laughing through out this thread.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by ben1daEbiri(m): 3:42am On Jul 30, 2015
fruitfulBROTHER:

have u forgotton mr. BODMAS
pls who is your maths teacherwere there brackets in the question?
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:30am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:
6- (1x0)+ (2/2)= 6-0+1 = 6-(0+1)= 6-1=5

6-1=5
5

How does 6-0+1 =7 ? Something is not right
6- (0+1) = 6-1
6-1 =5
there is no such number as -0 the - symbol can not be attached to the zero because that does not exists because zero does not have any value, it can not have any negative nor positive sway to its placement.
The - symbol must be factored in with the total of what 0 is being factored with. 0 being multiplied by one or added to 1=2/2.
So that will leave us subtracting as the last process in the order of operation BODMAS.
Bodmas requires that we add the 0 to the 1 before attending to what we will subtract from 6. Dont be confused by the illusion of such a number as -0. 0 is zero, there is no negative or positive about it, it is as neutral a number as can be, also 6- is not a number ,the - can not be factored as subtraction until all Division is factored, followed by multiplication, followed by addition and finally the subtraction.

Answer is 5
Who told you to add bracket?
You be olodo grin
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:31am On Jul 30, 2015
Toks2008:
If wwe apply bodmas the answer is 5
Wrong application of bodmas. The answer is 7 when bodmas is applied.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:32am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:


According to BODMAS, you cannot attach the - to any number nor can you factor it into any part of the procedure until all other parts of the procedure are factored.. Therefore the last opperation in the procedure must be the act of that subtraction using the (-)symbol attached to whatever final two numbers remain.
Therefore, 6 will be factored in terms of what will be subtracted from it. Subtraction must be the last process in the order of operation or it is not BODMAS.
That is why the answer is 6-(1) and not 6+1.. Bodmas does not allow the (-) to be factored away with any number except as the last process in the entire operation.. Your answer eliminated the (-) before your final addition. Bodmas says to Find a way to do any addition before Subtraction.
6-1 is the answer =5
angry grin.. Olodo
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:33am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:
6- (1x0)+ (2/2)= 6-0+1 = 6-(0+1)= 6-1=5

6-1=5
5

How does 6-0+1 =7 ? Something is not right
6- (0+1) = 6-1
6-1 =5
there is no such number as -0 the - symbol can not be attached to the zero because that does not exists because zero does not have any value, it can not have any negative nor positive sway to its placement.
The - symbol must be factored in with the total of what 0 is being factored with. 0 being multiplied by one or added to 1=2/2.
So that will leave us subtracting as the last process in the order of operation BODMAS.
Bodmas requires that we add the 0 to the 1 before attending to what we will subtract from 6. Dont be confused by the illusion of such a number as -0. 0 is zero, there is no negative or positive about it, it is as neutral a number as can be, also 6- is not a number ,the - can not be factored as subtraction until all Division is factored, followed by multiplication, followed by addition and finally the subtraction.

Answer is 5
Your maths solving skill ain't right... Olodo grin
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:35am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:


That is the same as canceling each other out ,so why make the extra effort to give them a value dsignation when the ultimate status of 0 is absolutely nothing with no deficit or value other wise.
Then that will allude to the need to assign the (-) symbol somewhere where it does matter. Also, the (-) symbol cannot be attached to anything or designated in any part of the order of operation, until all other symbols have been designated and factored in the correct order of BODMAS. The negative symbol has to be the last symbol by which the last two remaining numbers are factored.

So according to " bodmas" 6-0+1 the zero added to one must be factored first before you ever decide what to do with the negative symbol.
0+1=1 then the one is free to factor with the six according to final remaining (-) symbol. The negatative symbol must be the last property to factor the final numbers by. Bodmas requires it according to that order of process. and that process according to bodmas, will lead to 6-1=5 as the final answer.
But i believe in pure math where Bodmas doesnt have to be the ultimate authority. Much to learn by changing the rules, but in pure mathematics, just like any language, dialectics will keep a standard uniform order of process by which it can function as a uniform technique.
So BODMAS is the arbitrar when pure mathematics meets itself in conflict.
grin Olodo
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:41am On Jul 30, 2015
19naia:


Pure math is all of the above, simple and mind boggling, and the very nature of the "Mathe" is that it twist and turns in a malleable way just as any language twist and turns malleable into various dialects.
I speak yoruba and know of various dialects. Also in english various dialects.

Pure math invokes that Dialectics apply where you can phrase your arithmetic expression in arbitrary ways so as to fit various more complex models in Mathematics. Mathe is like a dialect, various ways of phrasing are possible and there is still a lot yet to be discovered and corrected in what is taught as proper Mathematics.

The crux of this equation is the use of zero which was not even allowed in original mathmatics until a few ceturies ago. The debate still unsues among top world mathmaticians about the application of zero in math and the problems it creates when assigning zero a quality and function despite it representing nothing at all.
Trust me, the "Mathe " is like a maze full of twists and turns and no truly straight forward path to any particular destination or answer.
Maybe one day you will explore Math philosphy and theory for its wild nature.
Even the debate over the application of bodmas was never resolved among all the experts who ushered it into standard form. They just settled on the form we inherited today, because it works well enough and would save them endless theory debate through the wild maze that math can carry people through when you really think about math rather than just following rules of operation set forth by people who really think about math and know its true arbitrary nature.

Trust me when i say i agree with your answer as much as i agree with mine. But i chose mine just to stick as close to bodmas as possible.
According to Bodmas 6-0+1= 6-(0+1).. that leaves 6-(+1). and like you said -(+1) = -1 .. Therfore 6-1 which is 5.
Think first bodmas then think about phrasing in the order that bodmas prescribes.

Now here is another trick to reach your answer in the same way i did reach my answer.
6-0+1 can be rearranged to be 6+1-0. then bodmas will also allow (6+1)-0. that equals 7. The answer is seven with just moving numbers around.
If i leave the equation in its original lay out, i get 5 resulting. If i rearrange it without corupting it, i get 7 resulting.
That zero makes a confusing difference and can help people discover the arbitrary nature of mathe in its pure form.
You are not applying bodmas correctly. You don't have to add bracket except there is already a bracket in the equation.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:44am On Jul 30, 2015
benedictjohn:
Now I see why we fail Exams! Always using calculators. The answer here is "5" and Not "7".



Cc. Oga seun.
It's you that would fail because you can't even solve this simple maths.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 6:45am On Jul 30, 2015
Kelewele:
To those who had 0 and 1,i'm sorry you are irredeemably dumb.

To those who had 5 atleast you've shown glimpses of hope,its just that your fees were shortchanged therefore the
need to go back to school to make-up for it.

My humble suggestion.
cheesy grin
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by dbaggy46(m): 6:50am On Jul 30, 2015
6-1=5,5*0=0,therefore 0+2=2÷2=1 so therefore the ans is 1
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by donchizzy07(m): 7:06am On Jul 30, 2015
Lol... what a thread... really, how difficult is this?? a lot of people still find it difficult to apply brackets.. I can only assist those still getting 5... if u want to introduce a bracket before a sign for simplicity u have to put the sign in the bracket and feature a + sign..
e.g 6-0+1
6+(-0+1)=
6+(+1)=
6+1=7. recall +*+=+

p.s if you are still having problems getting to the first stage, ask for help instead of criticising.. thank you

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by enitey(f): 7:06am On Jul 30, 2015
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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by wisperkins: 7:16am On Jul 30, 2015
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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Handsome4real(m): 7:27am On Jul 30, 2015
dbaggy46:
6-1=5,5*0=0,therefore 0+2=2÷2=1 so therefore the ans is 1
Please which secondary school did you attend because your maths skills is very very poor
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by demio007: 7:56am On Jul 30, 2015
BODMAS == Bracket ( ) -first
Of
Division
Multiplication
Addition
Subtraction -Last

6-1x0+2÷2 = 6-1x0+(2÷2) =6-1x0+1 =6-(1x0)+1=6-0+1=6-(0+1)=6-1=5
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Lnrprince(m): 8:54am On Jul 30, 2015
since ..A of B is equal to AB therefore ..... using BODMAS 6(-1*0)+2/2.....? 2/2.. equals 1 the answer is 1
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by odogwutochukwu: 10:08am On Jul 30, 2015
demio007:
BODMAS == Bracket ( ) -first Of Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction -Last
6-1x0+2÷2 = 6-1x0+(2÷2) =6-1x0+1 =6-(1x0)+1=6-0+1=6-(0+1)=6-1=5

u no well. u need some rest.

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by odogwutochukwu: 10:09am On Jul 30, 2015
Lnrprince:
since ..A of B is equal to AB
therefore .....
using BODMAS
6(-1*0)+2/2.....?
2/2.. equals 1
the answer is
1


u need urgent medical attention angry
Lnrprince:
since ..A of B is equal to AB
therefore .....
using BODMAS
6(-1*0)+2/2.....?
2/2.. equals 1
the answer is
1


u need urgent medical attention

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by odogwutochukwu: 10:13am On Jul 30, 2015
stiko5:
Even a primary 2 student should b abile 2 solve this...

BODMAS

bracket of Division Multiplication Addition then Subtraction

6-1*0+2/2
OK
6(-1*0)+(2/2)
=6(0)+(2/2)
=(6*0)+(2/2)
=0+(2/2)
=0+1
=1
Final Answer.
fun though.

ur case is worst.

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Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by hollowpot15684(m): 11:11am On Jul 30, 2015
miketayo:


LMAO u said addition before subtraction ryt? but u have done subtraction 1st.. dats y ur gettn 7.. ask ur younger ones abeg grin grin

At dis point I understand that u don't recognize exceptionals in math.. Here is a proven set of the equation.
Let see which one is correct:

I say the ansa is 7 right, now look at this:

If, 6-1x0+2/2=7
Then, 6-0+1=7
Now let substitute any number wit (z)
6-z+1=7
6-z=7-1
6-z=6
-z=6-6
Z= -0

If u look at d equation a minus should stand in front of zero since our Z represent 0.

If u equate your equation to 5 then ur Z will be 2, which means u re reffering to an equation entirely diffrent from the one we are solving..
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by hollowpot15684(m): 11:14am On Jul 30, 2015
donchizzy07:
Lol... what a thread... really, how difficult is this?? a lot of people still find it difficult to apply brackets.. I can only assist those still getting 5... if u want to introduce a bracket before a sign for simplicity u have to put the sign in the bracket and feature a + sign..
e.g 6-0+1
6+(-0+1)=
6+(+1)=
6+1=7. recall +*+=+

p.s if you are still having problems getting to the first stage, ask for help instead of criticising.. thank you

Believe me using bodmas ordinarily will give u both 5 and 7 as the ansa.
Proving in this case will solve the qst.
Re: Many Persons Will Fail This Maths (photo) by Nobody: 11:40am On Jul 30, 2015
7 using BODMAS
2/2=1
-1*0=0
6+1=7

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