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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:04pm On Aug 01, 2015
Debroslink:


So EPL is more competitive because dead clubs like N.Forest and Aston Villa have won it before?

how come they are no dead teams in spain that have won it before? grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:12pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


how come they are no dead teams in spain that have won it before? grin cheesy

We are talking of best league currently, and you are digging up 1970s and 1980s data to back up your analysis?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:14pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


so how come only 2 clubs have won the champions league in the history of la liga? where's the strength? if you remove barca and real madrid from the equation, la liga has no history in europe! EPL have 5 different champions league winners and it could have been more were they not banned from playing in europe between 1985 and 1990.

La liga - 15 UCL won, 9 Europa League
EPL - 12 UCL won, 7 Europa League!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
Debroslink:


We are talking of best league currently, and you are digging up 1970s and 1980s data to back up your analysis?

even currently....in the last 10 years.....pool, chelsea & man utd have won it. that's still 3 teams versus la liga's 2.

anything you wanna say to that? grin

homesteady:

La liga - 15 UCL won, 9 Europa League
EPL - 12 UCL won, 7 Europa League!

logic is a problem for la liga fans.
the 15 UCL won by la liga is by 2 teams, i repeat 2 teams.
the 12 UCL won by EPL are by 5 teams.

the strength of a league is the number of top performers there not the frequency of one team in it. barca can win UCL 100 times and la liga wouldn't be the strongest league in the world. the league is about 20 teams, not about 2 teams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
homesteady:


La liga - 15 UCL won, 9 Europa League
EPL - 12 UCL won, 7 Europa League!

you still keep hiding from the fact. 15 UCL by how many clubs?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:




and this is the mistake most people make....

you have la liga where the top 2 teams have 95% pass mark, the 3rd best team has 80% and others have 30%. EPL have the top 4 teams at 85%, the other 16 teams at 70% each. which of the 2 leagues have the highest overall strength? even a kid of 5 would tell you EPL is the most competitive league in the world.

French league is the most competitive in Europe. Far more competitive than EPL. But La Liga is the best
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:19pm On Aug 01, 2015
Debroslink:


French league is the most competitive in Europe. Far more competitive than EPL. But La Liga is the best

na yam?
even platini would slap you for that statement. the same french league that lyon won 7 times in a row only last decade?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RAKITIC: 2:22pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


so how come only 2 clubs have won the champions league in the history of la liga? where's the strength? if you remove barca and real madrid from the equation, la liga has no history in europe! EPL have 5 different champions league winners and it could have been more were they not banned from playing in europe between 1985 and 1990.
spanish sides have won 6 europa cup in the last ten years
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:23pm On Aug 01, 2015
As far as am concerned, the FA/EPL should be blamed for the decline of English teams in European competitions.
1. The Capital One Cup should be scrapped and the FA Cup should now be played over two legs over the course of the entire season.

2. Teams should now ve winter breaks. While Bundesliga and La Liga teams are busy enjoying the snow and sipping their winter juice EPL teams are busy playing almost 8 extra games with two FA Cup matches between December 1 and January 31.
And by the time Bayern faces Arsenal in the knockout stages, where the likes of muller ve only played like 25 matches season long and players like Cazorla ve already played like 35 matches, wat do u expect d outcome of dat match to be??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
RAKITIC:
spanish sides have won 6 europa cup in the last ten years

europa cup is not taken seriously in england. it's a distraction from the league position's prize money. the only time chelsea took it serious, they won it in flying colours.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RAKITIC: 2:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


na yam?
even platini would slap you for that statement. the same french league that lyon won 7 times in a row only last decade?
apart frm which english club have won the europa league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RAKITIC: 2:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


na yam?
even platini would slap you for that statement. the same french league that lyon won 7 times in a row only last decade?
apart frm chelsea which english club have won the europa league in last ten years
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 2:26pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:

Boss! We over here been dey reason say you go #MakeADifference by sending us the new adidas jersey from that side. How you see am?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Lineker can't tell the difference between strongest teams and strongest league.
The fact that la liga contains the two best teams currently doesn't automatically mean they have the strongest league.

see his full tweet -
-We might have to stop pretending that the Premier League's the strongest in the world. Most entertaining it may be, but La Liga is stronger.
-And it's not just Real Madrid and Barca. Other Spanish teams have won the Europa League 6 out of the last 10 years.

Now 7 out of the last 11 years, because he tweeted that since October last year!
and 5 out of the last 10 years in UCL!

With your honest mind what can you conclude from this?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RAKITIC: 2:28pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


europa cup is not taken seriously in england. it's a distraction from the league position's prize money. the only time chelsea took it serious, they won it in flying colours.
i guess the champions league is also a distraction that's why no english club make it to the quaterfinal last season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:28pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


even currently....in the last 10 years.....pool, chelsea & man utd have won it. that's still 3 teams versus la liga's 2.

anything you wanna say to that? grin



logic is a problem for la liga fans.
the 15 UCL won by la liga is by 2 teams, i repeat 2 teams.
the 12 UCL won by EPL are by 5 teams.

the strength of a league is the number of top performers there not the frequency of one team in it. barca can win UCL 100 times and la liga wouldn't be the strongest league in the world. the league is about 20 teams, not about 2 teams.

5 UCL trophies and 7 Europa Trophies and 7 UEFA Super Cups won by 5 La Liga Clubs in the last 12 years.

That makes it 19 UEFA Trophies won by 5 La Liga clubs in the last 12 years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:30pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


europa cup is not taken seriously in england. it's a distraction from the league position's prize money. the only time chelsea took it serious, they won it in flying colours.

Flimsy excuse.

UCL is not taken seriously because no English clubs made the Q/F last season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:33pm On Aug 01, 2015
UniqueGem:
Boss! We over here been dey reason say you go #MakeADifference by sending us the new adidas jersey from that side. How you see am?
Pipe dream grin
Coogar has sidestepped your request stylishly and is still arguing.
Maybe you need to shout or type in bold text to catch his attention.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:35pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:


logic is a problem for la liga fans.
the 15 UCL won by la liga is by 2 teams, i repeat 2 teams.
the 12 UCL won by EPL are by 5 teams.

the strength of a league is the number of top performers there not the frequency of one team in it. barca can win UCL 100 times and la liga wouldn't be the strongest league in the world. the league is about 20 teams, not about 2 teams.

And are you the president of FIFA to decide on which criteria is the best for rating?

3 Italian clubs have won it, should we also say it is better than la liga?

2 teams? are they also the clubs dominating Europa League?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 2:43pm On Aug 01, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Haha, i know am a lil bit late but ur term of ELEPHANT AND RABBIT is just down to pure ignorance of u trying to ridicule the EPL in anyway u can.

Oya take a look at LaLiga. We ve Madrid and Barca. We can add Athletico to the mix but we all know dey'll never smell another LaLiga title in d nxt 10 yrs. Valencia and Sevilla are both Europa league products and shoyldn't even be considered.

Bundesliga nko?? There is only one team. Dortmund tried to challenge dem. Hell they even did a double over Bayern. Buy two seasons later, Two of Dortmund's best players now play for Bayern. Dortmund is struggling to avoid relegation from Bundesliga. Now its Wolfsburg trying to mount a challenge. They did a double over Bayern, and even won DFB Pokal. Nxt season they'll probably reach quaters of the UCL and finish 2nd in Bundesliga while giving Bayern wahala all season. Then Bayern ll come and poach De Bruyne and two of their brst players and then Wolfsburg ll become obsolete.

And Serie A?? Lol. The funniest of dem all. 1st it was Milan, Inter & Juve contending for the title every season. Then Juve cheats their way to the title. They get fined and even get relegated for it. Fast forward two seasons later and they re back lifting the Serie A. Now every season na only dem for Serie A. Inter is now obsolete, Milan is dead and gone, Napoli?? Lool.

Or is it Ligue 1 where PSG had 7 penalties in 9 matches between March 1 and April 30 and their closet rivals who was topping the league den was having clean goals ruled out for offsides dat weren't even there.

In EPL, there are 7 top teams all vying for a place in Europe while causing problems for each other in d process. And out of dat 7, dere are 4 contending for d title.

So bruh, u need to think deep, reflect on some of ur points and take a look at other leagues b4 u call the EPL an Elephant and rabbit league.
I'll forgive you this once since you seem to have switched my metaphors for the 2 leagues.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 2:45pm On Aug 01, 2015
StarBoard:

Pipe dream grin
Coogar has sidestepped your request stylishly and is still arguing.
Maybe you need to shout or type in bold text to catch his attention.
LMAO! Easier to wait for my Aba brothers than cooger when he's arguing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 2:46pm On Aug 01, 2015
homesteady:


And are you the president of FIFA to decide on which criteria is the best for rating?

3 Italian clubs have won it, should we also say it is better than la liga?

2 teams? are they also the clubs dominating Europa League?


Inter, AC Milan and ??

I don forget..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:47pm On Aug 01, 2015
Dadehmola:

Inter, milan and ??
I don forget..
the old ladies - Juvie!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 2:59pm On Aug 01, 2015
homesteady:


the old ladies - Juvie!

Oh..that's true - in 1995 or thereabout (how many years ago be that?)

I'm not here to discuss Nottingham forest & clubs that won the UCL during Isaac Newton's time.

As regards the number of times these leagues have won it viz a viz the number of clubs from each league ; in the last 10 years, what do the records say & what inference can you draw from those numbers?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:05pm On Aug 01, 2015
UniqueGem:
LMAO! Easier to wait for my Aba brothers than cooger when he's arguing.
You don dey catch d scope.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:08pm On Aug 01, 2015
leggo:

I'll forgive you this once since you seem to have switched my metaphors for the 2 leagues.
iSee!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:13pm On Aug 01, 2015
homesteady:


see his full tweet -
-We might have to stop pretending that the Premier League's the strongest in the world. Most entertaining it may be, but La Liga is stronger.
-And it's not just Real Madrid and Barca. Other Spanish teams have won the Europa League 6 out of the last 10 years.

Now 7 out of the last 11 years, because he tweeted that since October last year!
and 5 out of the last 10 years in UCL!

With your honest mind what can you conclude from this?
What is the incentive for an english team to perform in the europa league ?
We saw everton try to compete last season and they tumble down league ranking costing them money.
Am sure you know the paltry amount that is shared among the other la liga clubs so you understand why sevilla go HAM in this tournament.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 3:25pm On Aug 01, 2015
SIRcumalot:

What is the incentive for an english team to perform in the europa league ?
We saw everton try to compete last season and they tumble down league ranking costing them money.
Am sure you know the paltry amount that is shared among the other la liga clubs so you understand why sevilla go HAM in this tournament.
Automatic entry into the UCL should be enough incentive. You think Everton , arsenal and Tottenham would not give an arm and two legs to reach the Europa league final?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 3:34pm On Aug 01, 2015
PietroRico:
These Barcelona fans are some of the most irritating people on this board. .. Walahi

hehehe....na today u just dey know??
Three of them are exceptionally annoying cheesycheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:36pm On Aug 01, 2015
ESPN better hope Coogar and Sinizia dont see dis grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 3:38pm On Aug 01, 2015
coogar:
EPL is the best league in the world.
barca are the best team in the world....

the league is not about the top 2 teams.....it's the overall strength of the 20 teams in a league that we are talking about. la liga is not stronger than EPL but barca are stronger than anyfc club in the EPL. if any of you la liga fans cannot understand this fact that you shouldn't be watching football at all.......
It's better for u to get a basket and keep fetching water into it expecting it will get filled up than try to convince the Barca fans on this thread.
The annoying thing is they know what you are saying is the absolute truth but they will NEVER agree, I mean Never!!!
Who doesn't know EPL is more competitive and Barca is better than ALL of EPL teams??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:45pm On Aug 01, 2015
leggo:

Automatic entry into the UCL should be enough incentive. You think Everton , arsenal and Tottenham would not give an arm and two legs to reach the Europa league final?
They just added it this year and you'll still participate in the playoffs.
The Europa league doesn't matter I bet you good money that you can't name the last 5 winners of the tournament
You don't even have the bragging rights to say you're the champions of europe that honours goes to the UCL winner.

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