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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 2:54pm On Jul 31, 2015
Anas09:
I seriously think the Op is either a child or he is stupid. Did I hear u say transplant? Where did they get the hands they used in performing the surgery from?
Why are people this shallow? Did u even think before u opened this thread? Did the Doctors create the ones they used to transplant? If they are as good as u think they are, why does it take them so long to train and carry out extensive experiments before doing an actual surgery?
Even clons need an already existing cells from a human being created by God.
@Joe4Christ, I think you shd change ur Moniker, you are a joke.
I had a bone condition years back that needed transplant, that was when I knew that doctors can't create. They only use what is already existing to work with.
Lord cause this Ops to wake up tomorrow with norm hands, let him call a doctor to restore sensation to his hands. This is how I know that God is a good God. He allows you go on and on, to ur peril though, because when the consequenses starts, then it will be too late.

So if doctors that are burrowing what God has created can give an amputee another hand, why can't God the Creator give amputees another arms ? undecided

Perhaps there is no God. wink kiss

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 3:03pm On Jul 31, 2015
Dapo777:


Yes I will, now show me one will you? angry

How can I show you after all I said to you.
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by joe4christ(m): 3:04pm On Jul 31, 2015
Anas09:
I seriously think the Op is either a child or he is stupid. Did I hear u say transplant? Where did they get the hands they used in performing the surgery from?
Why are people this shallow? Did u even think before u opened this thread? Did the Doctors create the ones they used to transplant? If they are as good as u think they are, why does it take them so long to train and carry out extensive experiments before doing an actual surgery?
Even clons need an already existing cells from a human being created by God.
@Joe4Christ, I think you shd change ur Moniker, you are a joke.
I had a bone condition years back that needed transplant, that was when I knew that doctors can't create. They only use what is already existing to work with.
Lord cause this Ops to wake up tomorrow with norm hands, let him call a doctor to restore sensation to his hands. This is how I know that God is a good God. He allows you go on and on, to ur peril though, because when the consequenses starts, then it will be too late.

[b]You make your god look insecured to me, if he really created the universe and all that dwells in it, why then does it seems as if he is competing with his creation, how would a creator seems to be competing with his creation or rather what point is he trying to prove? If he thinks he is sovereign and supreme, who then is contending that with him, he gets angry with his creation according to the scripture (Bible) and takes things too personal and rather kill his creation cos they choose to worship idols they created out of their imaginary as a visual object which out of ignorance believe serves as a medium of reaching the supreme God.
I really don't see any wrong in that, your God is just insecured and childish as depicted by your scriptures.
He kills, yet ask his followers not to do same, he command the children of israelites to kill upon sighting their perceived enemies but reserve concubines from the spoils of the war as a reward for their loyalties, what kind of God does that?
He encourages homicides, slavery and all forms of evil as recorded by the scriptures especially in the old testament. And you tell me your God is good, what is practically good about him
I was once a devoted christians years back, you can see the evidence from my moniker, but not anymore, cos I've gotten to see how mean and much of a tyrant he is, an imperfect me would be a better God.
Nigeria is an example, despite the prayers and fasting embarked by both the church and mosque against boko haram, seeking your God's intervention, what did he do? He sat back and turn deaf ears to the sincere prayers of his people, he seems not interested in the affairs of the black nation - doesn't that depict a racist God who only seems to support his blood sucking israelites rather the black nation?
You worship a foreign God brought to you by the oppressors who oppressed your ancestors through colonialism and yet ascribe all glory to him for every success attained as a result of the sweat of your efforts and then condemn the mythical devil for your failures - What a pitiful way to live brainwashed and indoctrinated.
Wake up africans, my people. I only wish you all could see that religion is a mind controlling tool used by the whites to trap you all from advancing...[/b]

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by plaetton: 3:19pm On Jul 31, 2015
kay1one2:
May the ones you type with shrivel up by tomorrow!

slowpoke Alert! slowpoke Alert!

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by kay1one2(m): 3:20pm On Jul 31, 2015
plaetton:


slowpoke Alert! slowpoke Alert!

Pass jamb you no gree! Street kid!
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by plaetton: 3:25pm On Jul 31, 2015
Eddlad:



I believe God heals but at his own discretion otherwise I imagine God healing every infirmity all the time everyday,that essentially means no one Will ever die.

Atheists like to think they reason,I dont doubt but their line of reasoning is just narrow. (I don't mean to sound offensive)

LOL.
Another " God works in mysterious ways" nonsense.

God is a mystery, who works mysterious ways.
Then I wonder what exactly is the purpose of religion? The worship of mystery?

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by plaetton: 3:27pm On Jul 31, 2015
Eddlad:




God would create an infinite number of you If quantity was all he wanted, forget healing of amputees he would have showed up himself and everyone would see him. Quality my dear quality, can you envision how the heart of someone who has not seen yet believes then finally sees be swayed?
Little wonder how just 12 people were able to propagate the gospel.In short everything is exactly how it's supposed to be some don't see it, some doubt it but a few know it.
Don't get tried of asking after all am not tried of answering.


What is this bloke talking about?

Which 12 people propagated which gospel?

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by plaetton: 3:29pm On Jul 31, 2015
kay1one2:


Pass jamb you no gree! Street kid!

Lol.
Jamb must be very very proud of you and the outstanding quality of your mental output.

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by menesheh(m): 3:40pm On Jul 31, 2015
Anas09:
I seriously think the Op is either a child or he is stupid. Did I hear u say transplant? Where did they get the hands they used in performing the surgery from?
Why are people this shallow? Did u even think before u opened this thread? Did the Doctors create the ones they used to transplant? If they are as good as u think they are, why does it take them so long to train and carry out extensive experiments before doing an actual surgery?
Even clons need an already existing cells from a human being created by God.
@Joe4Christ, I think you shd change ur Moniker, you are a joke.
I had a bone condition years back that needed transplant, that was when I knew that doctors can't create. They only use what is already existing to work with.
Lord cause this Ops to wake up tomorrow with norm hands, let him call a doctor to restore sensation to his hands. This is how I know that God is a good God. He allows you go on and on, to ur peril though, because when the consequenses starts, then it will be too late.


what's your point here. why not show him those amputees god's minions made to regenerate their lost limbs.

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by kay1one2(m): 3:59pm On Jul 31, 2015
plaetton:


Lol.
Jamb must be very very proud of you and the outstanding quality of your mental output.

Do you know the level of my academic qualification? You can't even dream of half!
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jul 31, 2015
Eddlad:


How can I show you after all I said to you.

Good, so hold Ur peace grin
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by plaetton: 4:51pm On Jul 31, 2015
kay1one2:


Do you know the level of my academic qualification? You can't even dream of half!

That is exactly my point, sir.

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 5:32pm On Jul 31, 2015
Dapo777:


Good, so hold Ur peace grin

always have.
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 5:51pm On Jul 31, 2015
plaetton:


LOL.
Another " God works in mysterious ways" nonsense.

God is a mystery, who works mysterious ways.
Then I wonder what exactly is the purpose of religion? The worship of mystery?

You work hard to sound immature among all the atheist(no need to me attack, I could probably clarify myself but if feel you know what I would say then why comment?No offense intended)

I added my reason for the said point as per the topic at hand,why not question on that.
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 5:55pm On Jul 31, 2015
plaetton:


What is this bloke talking about?

Which 12 people propagated which gospel?


If you don't know then it's probably a que that it's not meant for you.
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by dalaman: 6:08pm On Jul 31, 2015
plaetton:


What is this bloke talking about?

Which 12 people propagated which gospel?

I had to shake my head when I read that.
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by joe4christ(m): 8:55pm On Jul 31, 2015
kay1one2:


Do you know the level of my academic qualification? You can't even dream of half!

Then sorry to say, your education is useless, cos you are damn too shallow for an enlightened mind - just stating the obvious!

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 1:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
joe4christ:


Hahaha mehn it's really funny seeing all these die hard 'self acclaimed' born again running from the question on amputee...

That was how I attended a church program 2days ago, invited by my mum who was troubled that I seems to be possessed simply cos I don't go to church anymore or find any religious things of any interest to me, she was almost crying, so to make her feel a bit relieved, I succumbed to attend the program on one condition, I told her that the prophet she was taking me to meet must prove to me that God exist by doing some extraordinary thing that would prove beyond doubt that God of the christian is indeed God and alive, else she must never disturb me about going to church again, and so she agreed, na so I reach o, mehn I sit for fore front o so that the man go see me clearly, the man dey see into other peoples life but not mine. As if that was not enough disappointment, the prophet was just busy requesting for offerings upon offerings, for tithe, increase of cgpa for students, prosperity for those who desire and offering for those who want to sow into the church and even offering for business men and women who want God to embarrass them with customers the next day, mehn na so gullible people just dey drop money o.
As if that wasn't enough, the man said we should pray to God and ask God for anything within 24hrs that if God doesn't do it then he was called by God, na so me I ask God to prove he is God who called the prophet and the creator of heaven and earth by depositing 100k into my account the next day, I vow to give half of the money to his church and come back to testify of his miracle money, and I vow to believe him all my life and never question him again. Mehn, the next day, na so I go bank with my ATM card o, I slot the card to check my account balance hoping to see the 100k, mehn I was so disappointed, never before was I this disappointed...
Religious people are just gullible bunch I tell ya!

What about Ur dad, what's his reaction to Ur atheistic stand?
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Weah96: 2:21pm On Aug 01, 2015
Eddlad:



Today an amputee, tomorrow a blind individual etc where exactly will we draw the line and who draws it?

You turn to the scriptures. That's where the line is. The point we're making is that those same scriptures have given you the power to move Mount Everest from Nepal to Lagos, using the power of your tongue. How come nothing unusual ever happens?

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by johnydon22(m): 2:29pm On Aug 01, 2015
joe4christ:

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Bro i think you have to stop discussing your atheistic stance with your mum or parents, when you eventually get to live on your own you would enjoy the total freedom and independency you seek but for now religious brouhaha will be sung into your head every minute of the day

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by joe4christ(m): 4:20pm On Aug 01, 2015
Dapo777:


What about Ur dad, what's his reaction to Ur atheistic stand?

And what can he do, and it's not as if I go about singing it aloud that I'm now a free thinker (Cos I still don't consider myself an atheist) I'm just free from every form of institutionalized religion or
forms of worship and their indoctrination.
They only noticed that I no longer have interest in church things like I used to, I hardly ever go to church even on sundays, irrespective of what the say, I just don't give them listening ears on religious discuss, they often ask me what has gone wrong with me, and I do reply them by stating the fact, which is, I'm less religious, they know my mind is sealed on that, so there's absolutely nothing they can do rather to continue to pray to their sky daddy to change my stance...
So, when I go to church, I do so just to make them feel comfortable and put smile on their faces cos it's not only my family members that are concern here, my friends and loved ones alike just won't let me be, so I do go atimes to make them happy. But mehn sincerely church is damn boring to me, the rational me analyzes everything that occur during the service, from words, actions and message preached to offering and tithes dropped on the offering box and seed sowing by the gullible helpless followers, my mind just can't stop criticizing everything they do in the church, and that is why I find it hard to attend church activities, I just find it too hard to swallow those crap, I find it hard to play the gullible...
Sincerely, as a free thinker i've never been more happier and free all my life, now it's glaring to me that I've been caged like in a bondage all my life being indoctrinated. But now I'm beginning to see life more clearly with a rational mind devoid of religious "higi haga". Lol!

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 5:32pm On Aug 01, 2015
joe4christ:


And what can he do, and it's not as if I go about singing it aloud that I'm now a free thinker (Cos I still don't consider myself an atheist) I'm just free from every form of institutionalized religion or
forms of worship and their indoctrination.
They only noticed that I no longer have interest in church things like I used to, I hardly ever go to church even on sundays, irrespective of what the say, I just don't give them listening ears on religious discuss, they often ask me what has gone wrong with me, and I do reply them by stating the fact, which is, I'm less religious, they know my mind is sealed on that, so there's absolutely nothing they can do rather to continue to pray to their sky daddy to change my stance...
So, when I go to church, I do so just to make them feel comfortable and put smile on their faces cos it's not only my family members that are concern here, my friends and loved ones alike just won't let me be, so I do go atimes to make them happy. But mehn sincerely church is damn boring to me, the rational me analyzes everything that occur during the service, from words, actions and message preached to offering and tithes dropped on the offering box and seed sowing by the gullible helpless followers, my mind just can't stop criticizing everything they do in the church, and that is why I find it hard to attend church activities, I just find it too hard to swallow those crap, I find it hard to play the gullible...
Sincerely, as a free thinker i've never been more happier and free all my life, now it's glaring to me that I've been caged like in a bondage all my life being indoctrinated. But now I'm beginning to see life more clearly with a rational mind devoid of religious "higi haga". Lol!

Wow we are in the same shoes. I feel exactly the same way, I feel irritated when u watch evangelists on TV, asking people to sow seeds if they want o progress in life , this and that, and how some of my colleagues tell me that a man can't do anything without god, this and that. No one knows yet except about three of my friends, and they don't reveal it to anyone. So I àm just waiting to be independent from my parents before I come out of my shell

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by joe4christ(m): 6:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
Dapo777:


Wow we are in the same shoes. I feel exactly the same way, I feel irritated when u watch evangelists on TV, asking people to sow seeds if they want o progress in life , this and that, and how some of my colleagues tell me that a man can't do anything without god, this and that. No one knows yet except about three of my friends, and they don't reveal it to anyone. So I àm just waiting to be independent from my parents before I come out of my shell

Lol. It's better that way to keep a peaceful atmosphere else it becomes too hot for everybody...
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 8:04pm On Aug 01, 2015
Weah96:


You turn to the scriptures. That's where the line is. The point we're making is that those same scriptures have given you the power to move Mount Everest from Nepal to Lagos, using the power of your tongue. How come nothing unusual ever happens?

In your scripture of reference Jesus was admonishing his followers for their lack of faith and teaching them to observe how limitless their faith can grow.

There's only one way you can truly know God without doubt and that is to know him for yourself.I can paste some links to some thought defying miracles but you and I know that you are past that.

Seek Him genuinely not as a challenge, if he finds you it will be testimony to you and those that knew you and he doesn't...I doubt.

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by aweda141(m): 8:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
joe4christ:


[b]You make your god look insecured to me, if he really created the universe and all that dwells in it, why then does it seems as if he is competing with his creation, how would a creator seems to be competing with his creation or rather what point is he trying to prove? If he thinks he is sovereign and supreme, who then is contending that with him, he gets angry with his creation according to the scripture (Bible) and takes things too personal and rather kill his creation cos they choose to worship idols they created out of their imaginary as a visual object which out of ignorance believe serves as a medium of reaching the supreme God.
I really don't see any wrong in that, your God is just insecured and childish as depicted by your scriptures.
He kills, yet ask his followers not to do same, he command the children of israelites to kill upon sighting their perceived enemies but reserve concubines from the spoils of the war as a reward for their loyalties, what kind of God does that?
He encourages homicides, slavery and all forms of evil as recorded by the scriptures especially in the old testament. And you tell me your God is good, what is practically good about him
I was once a devoted christians years back, you can see the evidence from my moniker, but not anymore, cos I've gotten to see how mean and much of a tyrant he is, an imperfect me would be a better God.
Nigeria is an example, despite the prayers and fasting embarked by both the church and mosque against boko haram, seeking your God's intervention, what did he do? He sat back and turn deaf ears to the sincere prayers of his people, he seems not interested in the affairs of the black nation - doesn't that depict a racist God who only seems to support his blood sucking israelites rather the black nation?
You worship a foreign God brought to you by the oppressors who oppressed your ancestors through colonialism and yet ascribe all glory to him for every success attained as a result of the sweat of your efforts and then condemn the mythical devil for your failures - What a pitiful way to live brainwashed and indoctrinated.
Wake up africans, my people. I only wish you all could see that religion is a mind controlling tool used by the whites to trap you all from advancing...[/b]
you lack point and ur post look stupid no offence
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by dalaman: 8:28pm On Aug 01, 2015
aweda141:
you lack point and ur post look stupid no offence

can you state how he lacks points and why his post is stupid?

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Weah96: 8:38pm On Aug 01, 2015
Eddlad:


In your scripture of reference Jesus was admonishing his followers for their lack of faith and teaching them to observe how limitless their faith can grow.

There's only one way you can truly know God without doubt and that is to know him for yourself.I can paste some links to some thought defying miracles but you and I know that you are past that.

Seek Him genuinely not as a challenge, if he finds you it will be testimony to you and those that knew you and he doesn't...I doubt.



I read the bible and saw how faith in Yahweh was acquired. Dead bodies were waking up left and right. Pure water turned into Orijin. The ocean was once commanded to split open for an entire country to walk across.

Those people would have slapped you for merely using your tongue and fingers to talk about Yahweh. Show me. Do you remember Peter the fisherman from the stories? He didn't just leave his food to walk behind Jesus. Something extraordinary was shown to him and he decided to take his chances. In other words, there's always a demonstration.

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by aweda141(m): 8:46pm On Aug 01, 2015
dalaman:


can you state how he lacks points and why his post is stupid?
because he is criticizing the most high God the omnipotent Jehovah
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 9:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
aweda141:
because he is criticizing the most high God the omnipotent Jehovah
then u and ur god must be slowpokes

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 9:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
aweda141:
because he is criticizing the most high God the omnipotent Jehovah

It's just like you saying , someone lacks point merely because he is criticizing President buhari, does that make sense to u? undecided

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Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 01, 2015
Weah96:


I read the bible and saw how faith in Yahweh was acquired. Dead bodies were waking up left and right. Pure water turned into Orijin. The ocean was once commanded to split open for an entire country to walk across.

Those people would have slapped you for merely using your tongue and fingers to talk about Yahweh. Show me. Do you remember Peter the fisherman from the stories? He didn't just leave his food to walk behind Jesus. Something extraordinary was shown to him and he decided to take his chances. In order words, there's always a demonstration.

So eddlad over to you, if God in the bible could be performing suçh magnificent miracles, why is restoring amputees limbs such a difficult task for God, or why is God turning his back on amputees? Why does he seem to hate amputees? undecided

Perhaps he doesn't exist. kiss
Re: Doctors Can Now Give Amputees Real Hands, When God Cannot. by Eddlad: 9:30pm On Aug 01, 2015
Weah96:


I read the bible and saw how faith in Yahweh was acquired. Dead bodies were waking up left and right. Pure water turned into Orijin. The ocean was once commanded to split open for an entire country to walk across.

Those people would have slapped you for merely using your tongue and fingers to talk about Yahweh. Show me. Do you remember Peter the fisherman from the stories? He didn't just leave his food to walk behind Jesus. Something extraordinary was shown to him and he decided to take his chances. In order words, there's always a demonstration.

There were still doubters and unbelievers prying helplessly, striving with all their might not to see what was happening right before their eyes, they are no different than this generation.

Your questions are predictable but commendable nonetheless, I can only hope you sincerely find God for yourself if your quest is true and sincere.

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